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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Lowell's here. This guest today. We've actually expediated this episode.

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Speaker 1: So this is with the incredible Aaron Smyth, who is

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Speaker 1: a dancer, actor and director and all round creative. And

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Speaker 1: he was here in Melbourne doing Billy Elliott. He was Billy,

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Speaker 1: he was older Billy and Billy Elliott and Judah coronavirus.

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Speaker 1: They the show was canned and he shared that part

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Speaker 1: of his experience with us on the podcast. So we've

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Speaker 1: sped it all up and it's so nice to hear

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Speaker 1: such a positive outlook during this time from a creative

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of us can probably relate.

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Speaker 2: Aaron's story is incredible as well.

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Speaker 1: Since the age of like seventeen, he's been studying at

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Speaker 1: the Hope I get this ride. It's like the American

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Speaker 1: Ballet Theater in New York. This guy's performed for Michelle Obama.

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Speaker 1: He's been in a movie with Kieren Knightley and Morgan

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Speaker 1: Freeman dancing. His story is incredible. I really hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoy this chat with the wonderful Aaron Smyth. So you

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Speaker 1: are a dancer, you are an actor, you are a director,

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Speaker 1: you are an artist. You are an incredible content creator

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Speaker 3: I've kind of stumbled into that too. It's just again

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Speaker 3: an expression of my passions.

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Speaker 1: And get rid of everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of all around creative creator. That's kind of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say something, You were the most fun

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Speaker 1: person to research because there's so many videos everybody listening.

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Speaker 1: Do yourself a favor and just pop into YouTube. Aaron

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Speaker 1: Smythe America's got talent.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: That video I have watched like five times. It's one

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Speaker 1: when you start dancing on the chair on the chair.

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Speaker 1: The song was sick, and the way that you moved

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Speaker 1: like it was almost like gentle at the start, and

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Speaker 3: I mean they did a lot of really cool camera angles.

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Speaker 1: So I am totally digressing. So I know, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I just had to say and I sent it to

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Speaker 1: my boyfriend Matt and he was like he called me

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Speaker 1: up and he's like, oh my god, he's amazing. Oh

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think I think like you.

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Speaker 2: Also, we're slightly related, are we not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I call you my yeah second cousin. If that's

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Speaker 1: So I just like, just a full disclaimer. The reason

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Speaker 1: And I had a ticket tonight to come and see

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Speaker 1: you in Billy Elliot's right tonight at what theater?

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Speaker 1: You were in every sporting thing that you could be in, right,

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Speaker 3: your question.

439
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Speaker 1: It was just we would have performed all that weekend.

440
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Speaker 3: We performed all that weekend, and then we still didn't

441
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Speaker 3: know until we had our show on Sunday evening, still

442
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 3: and not knowing, and our days off were going to

443
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 3: be Monday Tuesday, and then we didn't know if we

444
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: were going to come back for Wednesday. So even that

445
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: Sunday night, the producers was like, we're still working with

446
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: the government to see if we can still run these

447
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: shows under five hundred people. So we still didn't know

448
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 3: it was our last show, but we still tried to

449
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 3: treat it was our last show. Yeah, but we still

450
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: didn't know which was really and we were put on

451
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 3: this emotional rollercoaster too. It was so drained and but

452
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: we're like, okay, let's all just go into this together.

453
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: And then we found out that night thirty pm. We

454
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Speaker 3: were in the stalls in the theater and it was

455
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Speaker 3: just like, that was your last show. Please go to

456
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: your dressing room clean out, and yeah, so it was,

457
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 3: and then tears were just running from everyone because we

458
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: just kind of had to say goodbye like that, and

459
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: I think that was the biggest, the hardest about the shot,

460
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I've seen these people, they kind of

461
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: like our family, and tomorrow or the next day we're like, oh,

462
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: I'll never see you again for a while. Yeah, I know.

463
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: And you're all performers and creative, so you guys feel.

464
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 3: Emotional, and there's kids in these shows and like just

465
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: to tell them like that too. So it's just like

466
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: it's it was and I.

467
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Speaker 1: Know, I know because we'd caught up the week before,

468
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: but you had all these like things planned for after. Yeah,

469
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: work wise as well.

470
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was a few things in the pipeline,

471
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: especially overseas and yeah, hurean Australia. It's just like and nothing.

472
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So as a performer and as a creative, you've

473
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: been really inspiring me over the last few days because

474
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Speaker 1: I've been having massive anxiety and we have yeah yeah,

475
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: but real patting attacks around because you and I have

476
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: similar similar dreams in many ways we do and me too,

477
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: and you've just been like, no, we're going to trust

478
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: this and go with the flow. And yeah, So what's

479
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: your outlook on it now, and we're going to just

480
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: for people listening, we're expediating this podcast. So usually usually

481
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: so Aaron would have been in season four, but we're

482
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Speaker 1: going to speed up. So I'm pretty sure he's going

483
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: to be your last episode of season three and you're

484
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: listening to it now. But we're doing this specifically because

485
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: we wanted to touch on what he's been through in the

486
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: last three or four days basically, So, yeah, what's your

487
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: outlook as a creative person, as a performer, Like, how.

488
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: Do you well? I really like to think of a

489
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: lot of things in positive and I think this is

490
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 3: such a huge positive. It's a time to like breathe

491
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: and heal and dig up those wounds and just rest.

492
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: And I think even just the news of like China

493
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: has seen blue sky in the first time in like

494
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 3: so many years, you.

495
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: Know, the fight do I saw on the way here.

496
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: My boyfriend's Italian and he put a picture of the

497
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: Venice canal, you know, and the clean wow, you know

498
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: it all.

499
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: See even just like that touch of beauty or just

500
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: news just goes the earth is healing, and I think

501
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: we can do the same. And it's such I think

502
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: it's in a really powerful time for It's kind of

503
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: the universe saying to us, forget out. Just say, you're

504
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 3: in a job that you didn't want to do, but

505
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: now this is the time to really trust your passions.

506
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 3: And I was speaking to a friend in London and

507
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: she's like, I'm going to write that children's book that

508
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: I haven't had the time to write, you know, so

509
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: I think this is that we'll be buying it, and

510
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 3: so I think this is a really it's a time

511
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: for that, and it's a time to.

512
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Speaker 1: I said to Matt, my boyfriend. I was like, this

513
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: is going to change because I'm going to stop. Well

514
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm a yes girl. Oh of course I'll do that

515
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: for you too, yeah, like and just people pleaser and

516
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, like I do not want to do that anymore.

517
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: I like this is teaching me that if you really

518
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: believe in something, life.

519
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: Issued so short, and especially like we caught up like

520
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: two weeks ago, when our plans were.

521
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: We were doing Tarocar, we were doing.

522
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: Amazing stuff, and obviously what we wanted to do in

523
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: life was just stopped. Like you know, it's just like

524
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: it really is out of our control. And I think

525
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: we can all learn that we what we want to

526
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: do is probably not in our high in our highest interests,

527
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: and we have to trust kind of the universe and

528
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: the world more than ever to be like, Okay, I

529
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: really trust you. Tell me where I need to go now.

530
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Speaker 1: And another thing I learned from a maine of mine

531
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Speaker 1: this morning, Rach she goes where there's a will, there's

532
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: a way, Like if you really want something, you're going

533
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: to find a way. And that's kind of put my

534
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: mind mind it ease as well.

535
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

536
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to ask you a question. Thank you

537
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: for talking so openly about it. No, No, it's a

538
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: brand new.

539
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: Kind and I think we are all in this together,

540
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: like we are literally everyone's in the same boat. It's

541
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: what can you do?

542
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a feeling we'll be hanging on the

543
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: other side of the world sooner than we think.

544
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: I hope.

545
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: So, Okay, I have to ask you this because the

546
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: kids can't when I research you, But I deliberately I

547
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: haven't gone too deep into it because I want to

548
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: hear it from you. I do this thing. I'm virgo

549
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: some be OCD so I over research people and I'm

550
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: really but every time I see something, I just make

551
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: a note of it, and then I try not to

552
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: dive to deck because I want it to be like,

553
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: I love the way you explained the nutcrack, and I

554
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: was like, I had no idea, it was just a

555
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: note that I had. So Michelle Obama, Oh yeah, take

556
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: it away.

557
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that's that's hilarious, isn't it. So we when

558
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 3: I first moved to New York, it was like we

559
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: were it's called the Jacqueline Kennedy and Us the School

560
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: at American Ballet Theater, and it was quite kind of

561
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: a new ballet school, but it was attached to American

562
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: Ballet here, which is the amazing American Ballet company, and

563
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: we it was did Obama just yeah, he just got

564
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: president and golden gold mirror, and Michelle loved the ballet

565
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: and she just happened to be I think, an honorary

566
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: chairman of the American So the American Ballet Theater has

567
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: this massive galler at the Metropolitan Opera House in New

568
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: York every year.

569
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: It's as in where the Met Gallery is.

570
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: Uh no, they do it at the museum, but it's

571
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: kind of similarly kind of like they call it the

572
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: met Gala too, which is hilarious. So we can pretend.

573
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Speaker 1: One of my career goals is to go to the

574
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: met Galo wouldn't be amazing. You and I would take

575
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: it right to the edge.

576
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: I know, we would be dancing up the record worthy.

577
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, so we the school happened to do a

578
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: number in front of Michelle and we got to meet Michelle.

579
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: I remember that night vividly. It was just like she

580
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: and she was dressed in this beautiful I've seen the photo,

581
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 3: actually beautiful black two two gown. It was as you do,

582
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: and yeah, it was. It was I was so young

583
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: to it was like nineteen, I think, and we're like,

584
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: I remember the directors like, and you're going to be

585
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: performing from Michelle Obama. It's like, yeah, it was. It

586
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: was amazing.

587
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: So you met her that night, and did she then

588
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: take like shining to you or something like and then

589
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: kind of like not necessarily.

590
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: It's like, I guess, like the media blows a lot

591
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: of stuff up. Okay, I guess No, I guess she

592
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: really enjoyed she loved ballet and she loved the arts. Yeah,

593
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: so she she was really connected to the school and

594
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: the America And yeah, that's so good. I know, it was,

595
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: I know it was. You're really really nice, just divine.

596
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: It's really tall as well. You're super tall, am I not?

597
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, but I like to say I'm six foot

598
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: but I'm five.

599
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: No you're not.

600
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

601
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when I keep watching your because you've got

602
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: very long.

603
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: Limbs, then I've got I guess I've got long legs.

604
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when I watch the videos, honestly, please do

605
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: yourself a favor and YouTube Aaron smile. Heaps of heaps

606
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: of dance videos will come up. But there's this this,

607
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: this one. I keep going back to that at the

608
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: start the when you're on America's Got Talent.

609
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: Talent, Yeah, I did Australia's Got Talent.

610
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: I know that you came third read. But if there's

611
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: this bit where you've got one leg in the air

612
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: obviously one on the ground, but it's like the length

613
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: of your legs is it must cut like your legs

614
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: are disproportionately.

615
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: Long, right, I think so. And it's so funny when

616
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, you look really tall and state

617
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: and then I come off and I meet you after

618
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: after and they're like, oh you look really you're normal,

619
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: look a lot bigger on stage, I think that's a

620
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: lot of people.

621
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: So there was something as well that I loved when

622
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I was researching you. So please talk me through it

623
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: if I'm getting because I could be getting wrong, but

624
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: there was. So it's it's on YouTube Evening with the

625
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Stars Gala. Yes to it the Nina.

626
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: Simons feeling good. That has Yeah, Actually that routine has

627
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: taken me everywhere.

628
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: Really It's a beautiful routine.

629
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: But beautiful song. That's what I think what's really powerful

630
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: with dance When you get the song right, everything everything

631
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: is taken care of because and I think a lot

632
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: of people actually don't choose a really good song of

633
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: the right music and I'm like, how did you? Yeah,

634
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't match. So I'm like, I'm actually really good

635
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: at that. I'm just choosing, like choosing that the song

636
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: and then matching the chreography to it is it's kind

637
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: of stellar.

638
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what was so what was that? What is?

639
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: What is the Stars Gala?

640
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: So, like I was saying, with all these guestings and stuff,

641
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: so I've done it about oh gosh, international ballet competition.

642
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: So in the balot well, there's all these competitions around

643
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: the world. I read a piece on it in Dance

644
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: Magazine too, which was really fun.

645
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was a dance magazine.

646
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: I know, it's a whole world, whole new world. It's

647
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: just like any like the nutrition and wellness, you know.

648
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: I was so excited not to go off on that.

649
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: Remember we're at dance magazine, please remember where we are.

650
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: But I was so excited to see you tonight because

651
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: my friend danced in Lion King. At Lion King, I remember,

652
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and I remember like she was the ant hill at

653
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: one stage and you've got to be on the point

654
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: you know what do they call point shoes?

655
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, point chees, Yeah.

656
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: And she had to go across the stage like that

657
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Speaker 1: as an as an ant found and I had tears,

658
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Speaker 1: like it's so proud, totally, and she was like the

659
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Speaker 1: only I mean I have been in same race saying this,

660
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Speaker 1: but she was like the only white girl in the

661
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: car whole cast. Yeah, yeah, you're right, because that was

662
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: like part of the part.

663
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: Of the Lion King.

664
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Speaker 1: I think also to be able to sing that way.

665
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Speaker 3: And it's like we just can't do that. Can when

666
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: it props off to them, they do it?

667
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Did you see it?

668
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: I saw it when I was Yeah, a little boy

669
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: in London. Actually it was amazing, but.

670
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like I knew, and Billy my dad

671
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: kept saying when we got to this, it's like, do

672
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: you think we'll get to see it on a stage, Dora.

673
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Of course, I'll give you a backstage to it. Dad.

674
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I digressed.

675
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: So you wrote for Dance magazine competitions Nina Simone that

676
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: feeling good routine? Yeah, so I kind of yes, So

677
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: I ended up doing so. Actually, me and my dance

678
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: teacher back in the day, we kind of created this

679
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: routine called feeling good to the song, and I'm like,

680
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: I want to dance. I just knew, like and speaking

681
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: of these powerful singers and the way Nina Simone that song,

682
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: it's just about feeling good.

683
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: That song's got so much.

684
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: Hard, doesn't it.

685
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: And I post a link to these videos in the

686
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: show notes to people can watch them.

687
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: Men perfect. So I really so that routine literally took

688
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: I did that out every competition, and I always one

689
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: with it. I always ended up getting some sort of

690
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: So in a ballet competition, you'd get you do your

691
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: classical variations and then you do this open routine. So

692
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm feeling good. Yeah, so it's like I

693
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: do feeling Good on America's Got Talent, and then I

694
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: did it. I think I did Australias Get Talent something similar.

695
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 3: It's was more fun what Australia skot telent in Americas

696
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: is America's bigger than I'm massive. It's just huge. There's

697
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: no budget. It's just like, oh, do you want to

698
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: come from the ceiling like with some singer. It's like

699
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 3: it's kind of incredible, anything is possible. Yeah, it was

700
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: kind of out of this world. Yeah, and like the proportion,

701
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: like I think on a good Night in Australia's Got

702
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: Talent eight hundred thousand viewers was like, oh my gosh,

703
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: we struck the gold, and then in America it's like

704
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: fifteen million per episode.

705
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: It's like you can't compare, you can't connect. I love

706
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: how they cut to your you're doing your sequence. We

707
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: all like that. That the piece I keep talking about

708
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: feeling good and cuts to Melby and she goes, oh god.

709
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: They doc she was like not prepped for you at all.

710
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: I love god.

711
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, it is coming back to that routine.

712
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: That's a moment where I'm like, oh, I just I'm

713
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: born to dance, and that music helps me dance. And

714
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: I can see why a lot of people relate to it.

715
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: It's because they just feel good and they want to

716
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: feel good, and that's what a performer's job is to

717
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: transport whoever's coming to see the show. It's escape, it's

718
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: ESCAPEI isn't to feel good and just life's okay.

719
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: Totally, totally, And I think as an artist, you're able

720
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: to do that through connecting with your audience.

721
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: Which I love.

722
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: One thing you just mentioned how you like performing, going

723
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: to like competition on your website. You've won a palletha

724
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: of awards, my.

725
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: Friend, a few achievements. What's the king, I'd say, And

726
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: I love this of this moment too. It was Beijing

727
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight Olympics.

728
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: Haven't you been?

729
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: Oh?

730
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: I know you say Olympics.

731
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: Olympics, Well it was. I was in Beijing at the time.

732
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: Was it the two thousand and eight Where was the

733
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight Olympics?

734
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: Beijing?

735
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: Beijing?

736
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I don't know. Actually, I literally

737
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: promise you, I do not. I do not know you

738
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: that I thought it was Beijing because I had Jones

739
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: on here and you're.

740
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: Right it was Beijing, but I have been to Beijing,

741
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: but it was yeah, two thousand and eight Beijing Olympics.

742
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: I was in Toronto, Canada performing in the Jena International

743
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: Ballet Competition, which is kind of like the Ballet Olympics

744
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: as well, happening at the same time. And I was like, oh,

745
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: my goodness, like this. It was a really cool moment.

746
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: And I won gold at that competition and I was

747
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: about to travel to New York after that, so it

748
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: was such a powerful moment. And I remember going into

749
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: that competition because I'd done many previously to that competition,

750
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: going I'm just going to dance. I'm not going to

751
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 3: worry about winning or doing and the letting go of

752
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: that I think helped me just dance to the best

753
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: of my ability and I can. Yeah, I'd love. It

754
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: is all about attachment, yeah, all of that, and I

755
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: practiced that also. I was young too, so it wasn't

756
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: really very on my spiritual journey or open to and

757
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: every you know, just like I didn't know how life worked.

758
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: Was still still still working that today.

759
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: But oh you're pretty fine, you know what you're talking about.

760
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 3: But it's that moment that was probably the best achievement.

761
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: And I got the audience choice of ward as well,

762
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: so there's an award as well, so popular. So it

763
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: was just like the audience felt felt what I was

764
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: giving as well. So that was a very powerful yeah moment.

765
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 3: That was my I think my product achievement. Yeah. Yeah,

766
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: well I think i'd say so even though I've done that.

767
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: We've spoken about a lot of bitout on a Disney movie.

768
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I've crammed it into to I

769
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 3: do look back at my life now and I'm twenty

770
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: twenty eight now, so and I left it. So it's

771
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 3: been ten years town eleven years since I and I've

772
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 3: left Australia sort of and then I've come back and forth.

773
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: We've caught up in this time, not including last week.

774
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: Once want yeah was.

775
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: And I wasn't at the wedding when we were a family.

776
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: It was once and actually food a date and then

777
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: we met again, like but briefly, and I didn't even

778
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: know at the MCG. I think it was just in

779
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: passing that was our first encounter and I was like,

780
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: we were still so young. Crazy, I know, isn't it crazy?

781
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, I look back and I go, wow, I've done,

782
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: I've been done a lot.

783
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Definitely take stock in that too, because I know you're.

784
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: In a U type personal and we're always like wanting

785
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: to achieve more more and more and more more.

786
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: But before this podcast, I were both like, all right,

787
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: so this is our plan now, yep, this is the

788
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: post Corona. Well, and I don't and I've been taking

789
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: it so seriously and I do want the listeners to

790
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: know that it is so just serious thing. But like,

791
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: as creatives, a little bit of humor is a really

792
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: almost like a way of it's not healing, but it's

793
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: a way of compartmentalizing something that is really heavy. Because

794
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: like I had a lot of days where I was

795
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: having panic attacks and literally wakened with middle night like

796
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: crying in sweats, and to now kind of be like,

797
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: this is my post Corona kind of plans, and as

798
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: that funny as that sounds, it kind of makes me

799
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: go far out. We are gonna, we are gonna, like

800
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: human nature is pretty cool, like and human behavior like

801
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: in the way that already the way that I can

802
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: see like people are grouping together and kind of getting

803
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: behind one another.

804
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 3: Is it's really just seeing all the positivity. I think

805
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: on social media and around the world. It's powerful.

806
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: So we've spoken about all the achievements and all the

807
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: phenomenal stuff you've done, and we've gone through all my notes.

808
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: I do want to know as well, because on your website,

809
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: you know you speak to actor director as well. Is

810
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: that a passion that you want to.

811
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: It's absolutely a passion. And I think the more I

812
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: get older and the more I can't, Like I said,

813
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: dance has only I have certainly, you know, getting older,

814
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: you can't really move that well, you know, it just

815
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: restricts it. So I got to think about also what

816
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: do I want to do with my life? And acting

817
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: has been another passion of mine and we share that too.

818
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: It's really so very handsome. So you're gonna now come

819
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: on now.

820
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I too love to act, and it's become stronger

821
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: and stronger, which is great because you know, as humans,

822
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: you know, we we have passions and we evolve and

823
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: we grow. And I also love directing to I make

824
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: these films.

825
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: I saw a film that you made for like a

826
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: ballet Academy or company you made that you directed.

827
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Speaker 3: And direct shot. I do everything myself, edit, I put

828
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: the music again, that music you.

829
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Do all that. That music incredible, thank you.

830
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I love research, I love music as well.

831
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: It's just so powerful. So I I've kind of it's

832
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: just like I said, it's another natural extension of my

833
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 3: expertise and passion, you know.

834
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, and just one more thing on the music.

835
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: I think as creatives, it's almost like another language for us.

836
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't imagine my life without me. And it's

837
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: no surprise to me that I'm dating a music producer

838
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: because we kind of there's like this now a language

839
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: that we share that I've never had with anyone before.

840
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: How powerful is that our music is? Like we like,

841
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: have you seen the movie The Joker with Phoenix?

842
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: I actually haven't, but I need to.

843
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: It's very dark, but the music score was written before

844
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: the script really and there is a dance sequence, yeah,

845
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: just a really dark dance sequence. But to this phenomenal

846
00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: score that I listened to a podcast with the the

847
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: the person that wrote the score, and she's this little

848
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: like Icelandic chip and she's like, yes, yes, I walked

849
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: into the podcast with like a little yoga mat and

850
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: the music's really dark, like wow, like murdering stuff, you know.

851
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I'm really interested to hear your perspective

852
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: as a creative on not not just a performance, but

853
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: like step out and look at it from production values.

854
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I also love, like you said, the musical scores.

855
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: It move me. I like, look on Spotify, do you

856
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: have a fam Oh my god, hands down. If I'm

857
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: I'm I'm there's so funny. I look at you know

858
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: in The Holiday, the movie Cameron Diaz, her job is

859
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: to be a trailer cutter. Yeah, I'm like, that's me. Yeah,

860
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: It's like I would love she's the cutting room in

861
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: the house. I just want to be a cutting trailer

862
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: that movie.

863
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: Every Christmas. I can't not watch that movie.

864
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 3: We have to watch It'siday, It's a holiday. It's such

865
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: a guy. I could just keep watching it. But it

866
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: is sound. I just like listen to soundtracks all the time,

867
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 3: and their music really moves me. And it is it's

868
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: so powerful. And I can't wait to see The Joker

869
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 3: and see that that's back.

870
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: To me and guys, I'll put a link to some

871
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: of the music I'm talking about here for The Joker

872
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: because I think it's.

873
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: So cool and even in Harry Potter, Like.

874
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: Harry Potter score but that's the OG. Here's the O G.

875
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: What's his name, John, who's the person to the score.

876
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: He did Star Wars, Star Wars. It's like the O

877
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: G movie score.

878
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: Even actually that there's this obliviate it's in I don't know,

879
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: I think it's the fifth Hary, but like there's this

880
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: moment this that score. It's just like it's just heart wrenching,

881
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: and you just it's like it's ridic.

882
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: But even I know when I need to work or

883
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: write or study, Yeah, I put I just want to

884
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: buy Zimma put it on. Yeah, because it puts the

885
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: brain into because we sit I think, is it that

886
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: we sit in alpha and we want to get to delta?

887
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: Like brain It changes your brain waves so that you're

888
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: more productive. Wow, it's like the Lion's main mushroom of music.

889
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: Great, it's like, holy sink, isn't it something somebody?

890
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Okay, So I've completely digressed. I need intention

891
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: on talking about movie.

892
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: I love it.

893
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: But this is a podcast about failure. And we spoke

894
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: about this just before and you said I've got so

895
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: much sor and this bit's now up to you because

896
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm just so people, I don't know anything about what

897
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: Aaron's going to say next. So yeah, where have there

898
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: be moments in your life where you're like, oh man,

899
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: because on the outside we look at your life and

900
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: you were just like killing it. You're always in a

901
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: different country. I'll get updates from my uncle and Auntie

902
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: that are like, oh, Taren's gonna he's going to go

903
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: to Korea or he's gonna go to Singapore, and I'm

904
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: just like, holy mackerel.

905
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I think, like you said, I have

906
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: to like take stock and this is time to go,

907
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: oh my god, look what I have done and be

908
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: grateful and wow, it has and it's been all completely

909
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: out of my control too. I've kind of well, the

910
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 3: failure is my first one basically was in New York

911
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: when I had to when I was dancing with the

912
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: American balleteacher too and the GFC here or that that

913
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: big financial I kind of was let go. So that

914
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: was a big moment and fired essentially like we were like, okay, you,

915
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: we can't have you anymore. And that was a big

916
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: heartbreak because I'm like, my that was a dream just shattered.

917
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: What did you do?

918
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: I then then the universe, I just had to let

919
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: go again, and the universe provided me. I'm actually lived

920
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: in South Africa for a bit.

921
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: I know this about it.

922
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: I've been to South Africa fifteen times, and I know

923
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: I've been at gunpoint and I've been moved three times. Yeah,

924
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 3: so that was a huge that a big Africa. Yeah,

925
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: all in South Africa, and yeah, it was a not

926
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: And it's the most beautiful place on earth too town

927
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: and it's just like it's a very yeah Safari and

928
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: it's such a magical linking. But I've I've had very

929
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: scary moments in my life that what happened at one

930
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: point we I was in the car and I was

931
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: at a red light, and they just came out of

932
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: the bushes, like you know, like they sell things on

933
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 3: the road and you should never drive with your window down.

934
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: But the driver happened to have his window down and

935
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: he came through and he's it's like he's well, he said,

936
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: was like you know what. Then I started handing through

937
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: a laptop and iPad, my wallet, everything, just like you

938
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: just have to in those moments, don't you so, And

939
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: then they just take it and leave take it. And

940
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 3: it was the longest red light you could ever possibly

941
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: imagine like come on like it was. It was. Yeah,

942
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: it was tough, contraumatized, Yeah, very scary, scary.

943
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: So and that's one of three times you've been robbed.

944
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: One of yeah, and another one was actually while we

945
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: were performing, people went raided our dressing rooms. I know,

946
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: it was insane. And then another time was just again

947
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: just like at a studio and your things were gone

948
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 3: like it was it was work.

949
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: My face is like mortified.

950
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: I know, I know it really well, those experiences really

951
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: opened me up to I'm being so worldly as I am.

952
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 3: I was just like, okay, you know, it's just material stuff,

953
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: and I've I've become a minimalist. Since then, I am

954
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: like it's just like, you know, Homer is where the

955
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: heart is. But having said that, so yeah, I went

956
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: to South Africa. Bit I had grateful that I had

957
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: some work there I could perform there, and then I

958
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: ended up going to the Royal Ballet and then another failure. Again.

959
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: It's like this universe kept pushing me not to be

960
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: in a company, like I had to be my own

961
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: boss and like be on my own doing my own thing.

962
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: But again the Royal Ballet director retired and a new

963
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: one came in and then basically he said, you know

964
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: what you I didn't see you here kind of made

965
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: that decision for me. And that was a really another

966
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: in my eyes of failure, like failed again. So then

967
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: I moved back over to Chicago and joined the joff

968
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 3: Rebello and then so this is there's a theme happening here.

969
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: I was like, this theme you're sharing is common and

970
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: like and you don't people don't know it be common

971
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: for actors.

972
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine completely.

973
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: Any kind of creative or performer or even people listening

974
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: to have a job that they get over and they like,

975
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't understand, they just understand. They end up being

976
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: like you probably would never have got to Chicago.

977
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: I had never gotten back to Western I probably doing

978
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: musicals and what I'm doing now. So in hindsight, the

979
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: blessing and I think turning these failures or experiences that

980
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: we can learn from them and grow. So we weren't

981
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: probably having this chat right now.

982
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: Well we probably wouldn't have been having this chat if

983
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: the current global situation had happened, because I know, you know,

984
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: there were flights booked and work was on and you know,

985
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: so I think you are a really great teacher in

986
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: kind of like trusting the process I have.

987
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: I've begun to really have to like there's no other Yeah,

988
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: when these things happen in your life, you're just like

989
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: I just kind of have to know.

990
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's and it's so wonderful to see, like

991
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: if you can look back at your life and look

992
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: at like there's a wonderful Steve jobs quite and it's

993
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: like sometimes it feels like you're hitting your head against

994
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: brick wall, but it's not till you look back and

995
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: can connect the dots.

996
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: I just got goose bums. I love that one, you know.

997
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: What I mean. And also we'll be looking back in

998
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: six months time, having a mattress, some match of tea,

999
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: Green Tea or a Green Moviean which is an amazing

1000
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: health place in Los Angeles, and and looking back to

1001
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: this moment where there was so much uncertainty. And I

1002
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: think it's really nice to hear, especially like a creative

1003
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: who technically you're probably your own boss completely, to just

1004
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: know that you've kind of got your own back. And

1005
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: that's have you ever had an audition or something that

1006
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: hasn't felt like it's gone right for it? Like we

1007
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: like it but your brunette, we need to bumblog.

1008
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 3: Oh completely. I went Actually, there was this movie I kind.

1009
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Of went in for hang on your audition from me.

1010
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done a lot of that, so I know

1011
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 3: it's actually I look back to to connect the dots.

1012
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: Throughout my life and through my ballet career. I'd often give,

1013
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: I'd often do just like it just randomly happened that

1014
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: can you do a self tape for this up and

1015
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: coming dance TV show or this dance movie. Like it

1016
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: just kept coming back like and then that sort of

1017
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: stemmed my love for acting as well. And I'm like, oh,

1018
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: I always ended up getting to the top three or

1019
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: two but not booking it. Yeah, like what's happened? Like,

1020
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure actors can relate it, just like what the

1021
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: hell when something's got to give? So and you're right,

1022
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: and it really and the more you go through this

1023
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 3: journey and process of auditioning and stuff, it really does

1024
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: come down to you're not brunette or you're not blonde.

1025
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah you and yeah they I.

1026
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: Got booked at acting gig recently and I got a

1027
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: call two notes before this was the feedback, Sorry, we're

1028
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: going to drop you. You're not ethnic enough. Seriously, Like

1029
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so I've responded with you're right, I'm

1030
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: very Caucasian.

1031
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: You're right, I'm very ogglgated.

1032
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought I'm just and it didn't bother

1033
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: me at all because I was like, this is totally

1034
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: out of my control.

1035
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: But I think like that, so I cut you off

1036
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: as well.

1037
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: You said you were you were you did a self

1038
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: tape from a movie or you were doing something for

1039
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: a movie. And I was asking if like you have

1040
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: not like they've kind of been like, well.

1041
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it really is to that so you really

1042
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: cannot you really can't take it personally. You actually can't,

1043
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: like if you don't get the job even in like

1044
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: musicals and stuff. And I thought it was like perfect,

1045
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: but you didn't have one tool enough that element and

1046
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: it's so minute, it's so minute. So just keep moving,

1047
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: keep going, keep going, keep going. Just you have to

1048
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: keep going, and you're going to reach there because you're

1049
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: getting to that that top three, top two. You know,

1050
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 3: you're just getting there still.

1051
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's just do you know have you heard

1052
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: you just reminded me so much. Have you heard of

1053
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: the actor Cody Fern? Yes, assassination. Yes, yes, it's a

1054
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: pussy only a couple of years older than you. He said,

1055
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: I've just done an acting course with him. Ye amazing,

1056
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: and that I got so starstruck when you were talking

1057
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: about Michelle. I was like, it's my Cody Fern moment.

1058
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I love it.

1059
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: But when I got a fight out with him, I

1060
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: was like, it looks like a teenage girl that was

1061
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: just like so excited to beat the formal or something

1062
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: so cute. But he said, I was going for audition

1063
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: after audition in la he said he burnt through over

1064
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: two hundred k of just like cash of living and

1065
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: he and it was the audition for assassination. He walked

1066
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: into what he said, and he said, if I don't

1067
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: get this, I'm going home. And it's that Letting.

1068
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: It's the Letting and it's in Lalla Land to that

1069
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 3: movie and the Stone. She let's go. She goes back

1070
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: to hometown and she gets the call. It's so funny.

1071
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: It's like, I know it's such a great movie, but

1072
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: I think it really is. And I've had certain I

1073
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: had it. My god, it's just like cool coming back

1074
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: to me. I had that moment of I was in

1075
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: Shanghai again doing some ballet thing, and I did a

1076
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: self tape for some movie and then the Cats movie, yeah,

1077
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: which was got ridden.

1078
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: Like it was I'm still not saying it.

1079
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, the reviews they just trashed it. But anyway,

1080
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: that was a moment of I was I was going

1081
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: to come home to Australia because I had nowhere else

1082
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 3: to go. I was like, I had that moment of

1083
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: I give up. I said, I give up, and that

1084
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: I was supposed to leave for Australia the next morning

1085
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 3: that no, I've got an email. You've got to you

1086
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 3: got an audition with Tom Hooper. Tom Hooper is the

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Speaker 3: director of Cats and the King's Speech. Oh wow, big

1088
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: Hollywood director, and I my life just went We're going

1089
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: this way. So I caught a flight to London the

1090
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 3: next day. And those most like I.

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Speaker 1: Can relate those why you're a minimalist, Oh.

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00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. I have to just I just have

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00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: one suitcase. It's just it's just crazy because I do

1094
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: and I think I love that change, change, and like

1095
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: I thrive off change. It's really it's the only thing

1096
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: that's constant. Yeah, you're right, And I think I had

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00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 3: to let go of my life just kept and I've

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00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: grown and that's how I've learned.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you where? And I know you said

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: before home is where the heart is, But where do

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00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: you feel like home is?

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Speaker 2: I know you're a Gold Coast boy. There's no way

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00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: you're going.

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Speaker 3: To that's yeah, that's not that's home for Like, yeah,

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00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 3: whereof that's where you can nourish. I know. So I'm

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00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 3: about to go back to the Gold Coast to just

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Speaker 3: like wait this out, you know, just like see what

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00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: see what happens. But I'd say, yeah, I kind of

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00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 3: lived in every major city around the world, and I'd say,

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Speaker 3: La for me is really where I could see myself

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00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 3: if I had to.

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Speaker 1: I've actually seen I've read your LA journal, and I've

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00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: also watched a few LA lots and Joshua treading for

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Speaker 1: But you also sounds to me like you've got a

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Speaker 1: soft spot for Malibu.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love it, to be honest. My dream would

1117
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 3: be to me and Kenneth Candy.

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00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: The mutual friend we both, we both we crossed paths

1119
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: in so many different ways, you and I.

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Speaker 3: It was so funny she interviewed with Saturday Disney and

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00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: then she's just doing me for Saturday Disney, which she

1122
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: was the host of that, and we're like, oh, like

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00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: we've just it's so and.

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Speaker 1: Her and I met because I used to teach her

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Speaker 1: yoga in Sydney at Flow and she's always come to

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Speaker 1: my house after because I lived around the corner. And

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00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: we chat for like an.

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Speaker 3: Hour and amazing. It's just like I love how everything

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00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: every she is sunshine when you meet those people, she

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00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: is sunshine.

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00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: Very and she's just oh, you're actually different. Really, yeah,

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00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: you're both sunshine. But she's just got cl right. She's

1133
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: going to be an epic mama care healing like everyone

1134
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: I have a bit more um bulldog. Well come on,

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00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: Collin spa.

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00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 3: But you both you do have that healing.

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00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're all the happy right. Corns is like

1138
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: this little ray.

1139
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: Of sun anyway.

1140
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Speaker 1: I hope you listen to this, can I hope She's

1141
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: got the most beautiful energy though.

1142
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: It's just so.

1143
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: She met me and Matt at the Goldcos Airport and

1144
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: my boyfriend Matt, and Matt goes, who is that? And

1145
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: Matt was having Matt gets anxiety when he flies, and

1146
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: he was having a bit of a moment and I

1147
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: was having a moment because I felt Sieger hate flying

1148
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: with a block nose or block ears. I can't do it.

1149
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: It makes me really angry. So I was getting angry

1150
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: Matt's and then Canda's just walks over to it. Sunshine, Yeah,

1151
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: the sunshine. We can't both down, and he goes, who's that?

1152
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: Why aren't you friends with her? And I was like,

1153
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: I am, We're just live in different states.

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00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, that's hilarious, but yeah, so we both share

1155
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: that love for mal a bit. We just like go there.

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00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, if anyone's visited Maltain, but you kind of

1157
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 3: get the same. It's just like this, like and I

1158
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: love Maley Cyrus's song. Yeah exactly. And then they all

1159
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: live there, don't they too? But I just want to

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Speaker 3: live on that build my dream little home on the

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Speaker 3: rooftop on the hilltop, looking over the ocean and being

1162
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: surrounded by mountains and calling that home. I mean, that's

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00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: a dreammine. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of dreams, just because I know I've already gone

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00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: over time. Where is Aaron smythe two years from now?

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Speaker 1: I know?

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Speaker 2: Just the was like I've just talked about letting go

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00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: the last.

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Speaker 3: Hour I'm supposed to not know and.

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Speaker 1: Say nothing else, Matt, say nothing else, Mad like often

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Speaker 1: say something else else, Mad. I would be building a

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Speaker 1: treehouse retreat and Byron, but i'd be part living in

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Speaker 1: different parts of the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's it pretty much. You pretty much said,

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Speaker 3: I just I just want to be happy. I think

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Speaker 3: I just I am very happy now I'm beginning to

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00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm just happy. Happiness really just does matter, and that's

1178
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: just taking care of myself mind, body, spirit and doing

1179
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Speaker 3: just the things I love, whether that be obviously traveling,

1180
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: movement and all my passions. Yeah, that's it, really, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Can I have one last thing from you? So, like

1182
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: for people listening, because obviously you're a very high achiever

1183
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: and you've succeeded and you've ticked off so many kind

1184
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: of like dreams about the bucket list, Yeah, and for

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00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: people listening that like, I really want to have the

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00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: courage the Paron's got, and I want to have the

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00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: ability to be fearless and to kind of just go

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00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: with the flow. Like, what is your advice to people

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00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: that have got a dream but maybe holding themselves back

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Speaker 1: because of a bit of self doubt?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh. Still I still truggle that too, but action.

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00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 3: Just do it. And I think one of my really

1193
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: amazing filmmaker that I really enjoy watching and he does

1194
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: it a few podcasts, Matt Como. It makes some incredible films.

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: Every day do something like just the every day counts

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00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: because over five years, every day it builds up. You've

1197
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: got this empire. So it's just the every consistency every

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Speaker 3: day and I love that. And it's so simple, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It's just I think like that, that's it. And it

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Speaker 3: takes a good thing takes a while. Like you know,

1201
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 3: I'm very impatient. I want it tomorrow today, So patience too,

1202
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: and have patience and if you.

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Speaker 1: Try doing that together, it's really hard but good.

1204
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 3: But it's the best thing. And it's like what I

1205
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 3: it's my dama. I try. I'm every day I take

1206
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: action no matter what however you feeling, just do that

1207
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: and you'll see magic happens.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, from the on my heart.

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: We were lucky to get you before you jet off.

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Speaker 3: We were all here now so meant to be to be.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: You're a very wonderful human being, and I'm so excited

1214
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: to see your star continue to rise.

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01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm excited for you too, very exciting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this, this next five years for both

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Speaker 4: of us will probably be maybe the most exciting.

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Speaker 3: I think so. I've just got goosebumps again.

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01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: We're about to read each other's cards.

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Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, I also do. I dabble in

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01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: that too. It's really fun.

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Speaker 1: Were read to a little angel healing card reading Parlo

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Speaker 1: Santain situation where thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: So much, thanks for having me.

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01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: And I'll put all of Aaron's links in both the

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Speaker 1: Insta posting of this but also in the story notes

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01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: so you can follow his journey and please support him

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: because he's a legend.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks guys, big love.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry. This potty my word

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01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment, and of

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01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: course spread the love.