1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Emma Chamberlain is accused of 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: charging fans ten thousand dollars for an Instagram DM Chloe 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Zepp sparks, Chemtrail Debate, Mia Plastics, Slick Engagement, and Kurt 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Tills hits back. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: a week. I'm Kate Toba and What a Week at Speed. 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: A day after we released our first subscriber episode on 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: the Rise of Sarah's Day, Sarah's husband Kurt has hit 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: out at us in our comments section. He's not happy, 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: is he? 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: No? 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Well, most listeners may have seen that on TikTok. We 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: have a promo running for the first episode and it's 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: basically a one minute clip highlighting what the series will 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: cover for context. I feel like we should play the clip. 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: She is the most divisive Australian influencer. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: Seriah's Day, Sarah's Day, Australian influencer, Sarah's Day. 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: It was hard not to get swept up in it. 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: She had it, all the abs, the boyfriend, living by 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: the beach. It was every twenty something's dream. People couldn't 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: get enough of her, and then the scandal's here. I 22 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: just get a scared if I make anyone sort some 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: of the messages I'm getting you guys is like full on, 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: like hate death threats. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: One dollar will go towards Saint Vincent's bushfire appeal. I 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 3: just got so much hate on that post. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: The rest of this video is just telling you all 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: of the healthy ways that I cured my cervic. She 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: branded herself as this holistic health princess, but the reality 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: was very different. I lost my period. I look back 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Sis, you weren't eating enough. Do you 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: guys think that her influence has become dangerous? I did 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: laugh because someone sent a comment through and they said 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: that this promo reminded them of a high quality version 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: of a Current Affair or Today to Night. Amy and 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: I both used to work at Today Tonight. I would 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: have preferred if they had compared it to sixty minutes. 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: I think there was a sixty minutes reference actually in 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: the comment section. And this clip attracted a lot of 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: a tent At the time of recording, it has around 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand views, and I think this is how 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Kurt has come across it. I know that good old 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: TikTok algorithm is very strong, particularly for an organic reach. 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: It might also have to do with the fact that 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: a lot of sarah Stans were tagging Kurt and Sarah 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: in the comment section. Well, let's get into what Kurt said. 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: So he wrote, hmm, interesting and deceptive way to promote 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: a paid subscription. We'll be in contact with you soon. 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he had to highlight that 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: it's a paid subscription, Like, how dare anyone else charge 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: money for something that they put a lot of time 52 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: and effort into. Let's throw it at women for charging 53 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: money for something like we're three journalists here. We put 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of time and effort into cultivating an audience. 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: We're not forcing anyone to purchase this. I found that 56 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: a really cheeky thing to say. I know, we've been 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: doing this podcast for nearly four years with free content 58 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: for that amount of time, I think that we are 59 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: very much allowed to offer bonus episodes if people are 60 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: interested in for a fee. What I didn't like about 61 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: this comment was it came across as quite threatening language. Yeah, 62 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: it seemed a bit like an idle threat where you 63 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: can read between the lines and it's like, well, our 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: legal team is going to contact you or we did 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: reply to Kurt, so we wrote Hey Kurt, happy for 66 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: you to contact us directly Amy at outspokenmedia dot com 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: dot au. The promo and series have been produced by 68 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: a team of journalists. The reporting is ethical, objective and 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: has been widely researched using both media reports and material 70 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: from YouTube No deception at play. The series documents Sarah's 71 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: rise in popularity, her achievements, and reports on controversies that 72 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: have been well documented in the media, as well as 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: the phenomenon of cancel culture. Now, at the time of recording, 74 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: we haven't received any correspondence from Kurt or Sarah or 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: their legal team. And just to remind everyone, the Outspoken 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: Plus seven day trial is ending shortly, so if you 77 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: do want to listen to the first episode of the 78 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: series that is causing quite a lot of controversy, we 79 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: have a link in our show notes that you can follow. Also, 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: we didn't know this is another feature. Apparently if you subscribe, 81 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to listen to the ads. It's all 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: ad free, as in all of the content going forward. Yeah, 83 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: it's pretty good, so you don't have to listen to 84 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: ADS on Tuesday or Friday's episodes, and you also get 85 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: a bonus weekly episode. Hi ad, I'm Emma Chamberlain and 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: welcome to my house. I've been waiting for this moment 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: my whole life. Please come in. US influencer Emma Chamberlain 88 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: has been accused of charging fans ten thousand dollars for 89 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: an Instagram DM. It didn't take long for a screenshot 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: of the alleged promotion, taken from Emma's merchandise website, to 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: go viral. The public backlash was swift and forced Emma 92 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: to come out and deny any knowledge of the promotion. So, okay, 93 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: how did this all start? 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: So? 95 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: It was started on Saturday when a twenty three year 96 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: old woman called Laila Saliba tweeted a screenshot of a 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: promotion from Chamberlain's merchandise store promoting the opportunity to buy 98 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: a personal thank you note from Emma in Instagram DM 99 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: for ten thousand dollars now. This screenshot also showed the 100 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: stores installment shopping service offering a payment plan of nine 101 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: hundred and two dollars and fifty eight cents a month 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: for a year now. The woman tweeted why is Emma 103 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: Chamberlain charging ten thousand dollars for on Instagram? DM? This 104 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: is wild and as you can imagine, the tweet quickly 105 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: went viral and as you can guess, everyone thought it 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: was fucking ridiculous. So since then, Chamberlain's online store has 107 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: been put under construction. Well, it's not an entirely new 108 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: thing for celebrities and influencers to charge their fans for 109 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: personalized messages. For years, many D list celebrities have been 110 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: selling personalized video messages on cameo, and sometimes even B 111 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: or C grade celebrities have as well. Yeah, the difference 112 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: is though the most expensive video on cameo is two 113 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, So ten thousand dollars that's a bit of 114 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: a stretch. What is the most you would pay for 115 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: a personalized message from a celebrity? DM? No, well, no, 116 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: like a cameo message like it was from Taylor Swift? 117 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: What would you pay? I mean, I prefer to pay 118 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: to go to her concert and see her, or pay 119 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: for a meet and greet. I wouldn't really care if 120 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: it was like a video. Yeah, I think for me, 121 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: i'd probably buy a cameo if it was like something 122 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: funny to pay someone out with that, I was like, 123 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: giving you a PAF, But I don't think i'd spend 124 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: more than forty dollars. I really wanted to get a 125 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: cameo from j from The in between Ers for Soph's partner. 126 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: He makes so much money each year on cameo. Yeah, 127 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: I can see how it would be good for someone 128 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: like that. People still like him, but I feel like 129 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: he isn't a big enough celebrity that people are going 130 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: to be like, Oh, that's a bit lame that you're 131 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: doing that. Thinking about it, I probably would pay around 132 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: maybe two hundred and fifty dollars for personalized message from 133 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. I wouldn't even bother because we've met her. 134 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: That was like a beautiful experience. I don't feel like 135 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: I need any more. The thing with Emma Chamberlain, though, 136 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: is this is not good pr for her. I mean 137 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: it's not good for anyone, but particularly her, because she 138 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: has built a personal brand on being authentic and self deprecating, 139 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: and like many influencers who make it big at the moment, 140 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: she is struggling to try and stay relatable because she's 141 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: famous and rich now, so people thinking that she's trying 142 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: to sell personalized DM for ten k is not good 143 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: for her personal brand at all. It's not a good 144 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: look for any YouTuber, is it. Because when you watch videos, 145 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: you feel like these YouTubers are your friend, and you 146 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: feel like you should be able to reach out and 147 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: DM them and receive one back without having to pay 148 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. It is not a good look, and 149 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: that's why Emma has come out and given an exclusive 150 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: statement to E. She is very eager to set this 151 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: story straight. She said she started getting comments about why 152 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: is she selling a DM for ten k, and she said, 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: I assume this was an online scam as I had 154 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: never offered to sell a DM for any amount of money, 155 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: let alone ten thousand dollars. People were saying this was 156 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: for sale on my merch site. So I checked the 157 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: site to see if it had been hacked and couldn't 158 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: find anything out of the ordinary. So Emma ended up 159 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: reaching out to the company behind her merch website, who 160 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: took the site down to investigate the issue further. The 161 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: company behind Chamberlain's merchandise website, Kozak, shared a statement saying 162 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: that the claim that Emma was offering DMS in exchange 163 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: for ten thousand dollars was false and inaccurate. So the 164 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: company said that back in twenty eighteen, they were testing 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: out a prospective reward program related to Emma's merch without 166 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: her knowledge, and it was during this testing period that 167 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: they apparently created what they called an outrageous never activated 168 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: reward level that was not intended to be active or purchase. 169 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: It's almost like Emma Chamberlain's merchandise team has taken this 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: rewards program straight from Pepsi from the eighties. Have you 171 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: seen that doco that's all about that kid who wants 172 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: the Harriot Jets from Pepsi and doesn't he end up 173 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: winning it because he collected this ridiculous amount of points 174 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: that Pepsi never expected anyone to do it. Yeah, So 175 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: basically they had this ad and in the ad it 176 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: said if you collect seven million Pepsi points, you'll take 177 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: home this Harrier jet. And they assumed that, you know, 178 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: everyone would think it was a joke, but there was 179 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: absolutely no disclaimer. So this kid, he earned seven million 180 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: PEPSI points and demanded to get the jet from Pepsi. 181 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Did he get it? I don't want to spoil the 182 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: documentary Go watch on Netflix. It's really interesting. But is 183 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: this the kind of thing that they had planned? Did 184 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: they want people to collect a number of awards points 185 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: to get this DM and they actually priced the DM 186 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: at ten thousand dollars. I don't know. It's all very confusing. 187 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: One thing I did notice in the articles that were 188 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: covering it is that the merchandise company demanded that their 189 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: statement be published in full. And I feel like there 190 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: must be some issues going down behind the scenes with 191 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: Emma Chamberlain and this company, because they made it very 192 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: clear that Emma had no knowledge of this, and they 193 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: were really pushing that narrative because it would look so 194 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: bad if Emma was like, yeah, I think a DM 195 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: from me should cost ten thousand dollars. So it would 196 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: have been easier for Emma Chamberlain to come out and 197 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: say my website was hacked, but that's obviously not a 198 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: good look for the company who's handling the website. Yeah, 199 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, she should have just said my web company 200 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: fucked up. But I find it odd that the merchandise 201 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: company would be allowed to play around with concepts that 202 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: hadn't been a proved by Emma's team. I actually think 203 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Emma is telling the truth in this case, and it's 204 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: totally embarrassing for her because mud sticks and a lot 205 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: of people will think, oh no, she actually thinks her 206 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: dms are worth ten thousand dollars, particularly if you just 207 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: read the headline and don't actually see the statement. The 208 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: thing is perhaps that the teams had agreed that they 209 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: would start this rewards program, but maybe they just put 210 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: in some like false text holding texts and it's gone 211 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: live accidentally. 212 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: So the police are at our house now getting fingerprints. 213 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: Former Miss Universe Australia Rachel Finch has recalled the horror 214 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: of discovering her house was broken into whilst her two 215 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: young children were fast asleep in their beds. So this 216 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: sounds like such a scary incident. Yeah, this really is 217 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: the stuff of nightmares. And Rachel Finch opened up about 218 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: the home invasion on her Instagram story the next day, 219 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and she explained that they were awoken by a knock 220 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,479 Speaker 1: on the door from police alerting them that the intruders 221 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: had broken into their house. So at this stage they 222 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: weren't even aware that they'd been Here's what she said. 223 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: We got woken up at just before three am when 224 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: the police knocked on the front door and he said 225 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: to us straight away, your house has been broken into. 226 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: And the first thing I did, I turned and ran 227 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: to violent Dom's room to make sure that they were 228 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: there and safe, and they were all good, and my 229 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: heart was just like pounding. You just feel so violated 230 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: when someone is standing in your home with your children 231 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: lying there asleep in their bed thinking that they're safe. 232 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: It is the most petrifying feeling. 233 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: That is just so awful. Rachel also penned a message 234 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: to the intruders and shared it over the top of 235 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: a selfie on Instagram, writing to the people who broke 236 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: into our house last night while our children were sleeping 237 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: in their beds thinking they were safe, please come again. 238 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: You left without knowing our thoughts or our feelings. I 239 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: thought it was an interesting move to challenge the intruders 240 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: to come back. I know that's not actually what she meant, 241 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: but it could be in that way. It's really hard 242 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: to judge someone's comments when they've just gone through a 243 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: very traumatic experience. Perhaps she's trying to portray how difficult 244 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: it is to move on with children, in particular, when 245 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: something so horrific has happened. I feel like those kids 246 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: aren't going to be able to fall asleep tonight. I 247 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: feel like this is something that we're reporting on more 248 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: and more. Last year, of course, Chloe Zepp and Mitchell 249 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: Orville had a very dramatic home invasion. The year before, 250 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson had her home robbed, and then Shiny Grimman 251 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: a number of years ago also had her home broken into, 252 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: and these stories caused a lot of public debate about 253 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: whether influencers were putting themselves at risk by sharing content 254 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: in their homes, and also whether they were making their 255 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: locations easily identifiable. But in this case, it appears that 256 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: Rachel's home wasn't the only target of the robbery. So 257 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Rachel said that the whole street was targeted, and the 258 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: robbers started at the top of the street and made 259 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: their way down, breaking into every single property, including apartments. 260 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy that the family didn't wake up when 261 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: all of that was going on all throughout the street. 262 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: It sounds like home alone, and Rachel did heavily praise 263 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: the police, saying everyone from the forensic team to the 264 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: detectives and those doing the fingerprints had been amazing. I 265 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: do really feel for Rachel because the last six months 266 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: haven't been great for her and her family. Back in November, 267 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Rachel's husband was allegedly assaulted in front of her whilst 268 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: they were in Singapore. So Rachel and her husband, Michael, 269 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: were returning to their room at the hotel after a 270 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: dinner date when they got into a lift with two 271 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: men and a young family. So the two men left 272 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: the lift and as they did so, they tapped Michael's chest. 273 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Michael then jokingly said, mate, you forgot your shoes to 274 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: one of the men, who was barefoot, and the man 275 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: allegedly responded by slapping Michael across the face and neck. 276 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Rachel said Michael had a massive red imprint and everyone 277 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: in the lift was left shocked. Yeah, and at the time, 278 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Rachel said that her whole body went numb, and she 279 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: described it as the scariest, most uncomfortable and unexpected thing. 280 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: It is a pretty shocking thing to happen in Sea 281 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: because it is known as a country that has so 282 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: many rules you can't even chew chewing them there. So 283 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm really shocked that assaults happened in lists. 284 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 285 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: Well, apparently she reported it to the police and also 286 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: the hotel and they didn't act on it at all, 287 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: So it was pretty bad because she said that it 288 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: was scary because they're in another country. They know that 289 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: this person is a guest at the hotel because it 290 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: was in one of those sort of resorts in Singapore, 291 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: and you know, you get to know everyone at the resort. 292 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: So they literally stayed the whole day in their room 293 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: and then they moved to a new hotel. 294 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: So we flew in the Q Suites, which we had 295 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: never flown before. 296 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Controversial Slickstick owner Mia Plasic and her long term partner 297 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Justin Borg have announced they got engaged whilst holidaying in Tuscany. 298 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: Before we get into it, so can you give us 299 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: a refresher on who Miya and Justin are well. Mia 300 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Pleasick is a thirty year old entrepreneur from Melbourne who 301 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: owns Slick Hair company, which is stopped in Coals. She 302 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: is a very divisive figure who has attracted attention for 303 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: supporting and attending anti protests. She also allegedly shared on 304 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: her Instagram account that she planned to find a black 305 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: market doctor to sign a COVID passport for her. Gosh, 306 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: that seems like a long time ago it does. She 307 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: is also known for her former friendship with Sophie Kasha, 308 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: and the pair started a makeup line together called Issuru, 309 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: which she is no longer part of. I don't even 310 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: know if that makeup line is still continuing. And it 311 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: seems like she found her perfect partner in Justin So. 312 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: He recently ran as a candidate for Clive Palmer's United 313 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: Party and last year the pair were slammed for conflating 314 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: abortion rights with the Victorian government's COVID lockdown and vaccine mandates. 315 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: They must be really happy that unvaccinated people can travel again, 316 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: because they've definitely been doing a lot of it. So 317 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: the pair recently embarked on a work trip to Milan 318 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: to attend a cosmetic trade show. And Mia has built 319 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: quite a following on TikTok by providing business advice and 320 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: also showcasing her lavish travels. She currently has seventy three 321 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: thousand followers on TikTok. In a recent travel vlog, which 322 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: she uploaded this week, she showed her followers what it's 323 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: like flying business class on Qatar Airways and can we 324 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: take a minute to take in how she pronounced the 325 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: word Qatar. 326 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: Come on board with me Kartai Airways for our flight 327 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: from Melbourne to Dohat. 328 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: You think if you were traveling first class in business 329 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: class so many times that you'd know how to pronounce 330 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: the airline. I actually had a lot of people pronouncing 331 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Qatar Airways wrong. Well, Miya explained that she and Justin 332 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: were flying in the Q suites, which set you back 333 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: a whopping thirteen thousand, nine hundred and fifty five dollars 334 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: a ticket. I'm assuming this is all a big tax 335 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: deduction for them, though, oh definitely there'd be some loophole 336 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: while they're doing this. So what do you get for 337 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: that price? Well, each Q seat is set up like 338 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: a personalized room, so you have the option to close 339 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: the door completely to have total privacy during the flight. 340 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: You of course get your own seat that turns into 341 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: one of those flat beds, and when you board the 342 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: plane you get given a set of unisex pajamas from 343 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: the White Company to change into for the flight. You 344 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: also get a twenty two inch TV with a universal 345 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: TV remote, and the food is of course very fancy. 346 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I saw Davidae and Eckensue from Love Island traveling first 347 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: class on British Airways to the Maldives, and it was 348 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: hilarious because they were just like, oh see later. It's 349 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: like they're totally fenced off from one another. It's like 350 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: you're in your own little pod and have nothing to 351 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: do with the person sitting next to you. But they 352 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: could have put that up, like if you're traveling as 353 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: a couple, you can share a sort of double pod together. 354 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Because MEA and Justin they shared theirs together. I mean 355 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: that you have your separate TVs as well. It's not 356 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: like you're forced to watch the same thing. You have 357 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: a fight during the fly and I just put your 358 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: shutters down. One of the other benefits is that the 359 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: bathrooms are so much larger, and they've got lots of 360 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: fancy soaps and lotions and our mum would love this. 361 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: It has a pull out drawer and it has all 362 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: of these toothpastes and toothbrushes in there. Another nice touch 363 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: is that when you land you receive a really fancy 364 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: Swiss chocolate. It's pretty clear you've never flown business class before, 365 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: so I don't like flying so no, and I don't 366 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: have the money for that. I don't mean to humble, 367 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: but I have troubled business class before. It was an upgrade, 368 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: so I didn't pay for it, and it was magnificent, 369 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: not as magnificent as this sounds. We didn't have a 370 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: separate bathroom. We did have the live flat beds on quantas. 371 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: But I was with my ex partner at the time 372 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: and we actually got cut off. Well, he got cut 373 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: off because he asked for so much food that they 374 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: weren't giving him any more. He was like, I want 375 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: another cheese platter, I want another bag of kettle chips. 376 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: That was so embarrassing. He actually got up to get 377 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: off the plane and had to be kind of like 378 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: helped out because he was so trub Well, that's when 379 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: you know that you've got your money's worth from it, 380 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: don't you now getting into this engagement. So a week 381 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: into their trip, Mia announced on Instagram that the couple 382 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: got engaged. In Tuscany, she shared a close up photo 383 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: of her hand on top of Justin's with her ring 384 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: in full display, and what a lot of people found 385 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: really odd was that Justin's Rolex watch appeared to be 386 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: a focus of this photo as well, and many have 387 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: questioned the reason for having this watch in the shot 388 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: with some seeing it as a of trying to flex 389 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: their wealth. That definitely was the complete reason it was there. 390 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I did not like 391 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: the ring, and I saw that was the general consensus 392 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: in our Facebook g Well, she did give some further 393 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: details about the rings. She wrote, thank you to our 394 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: beautiful friends and amazing jewelers Roberto and Maria from Artella 395 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: Jewelry for creating my dream ring. So happy I get 396 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: to wear a piece of your art for life. And 397 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: I think listeners will know by now that we're not 398 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: the best at describing rings, but I did try and 399 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: do a little bit of research into this one. It 400 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: appears to be an emerald cut diamond with two smaller 401 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: emerald cut diamonds on either side, and it sits very 402 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: flat on her hand. It's definitely not a ring that 403 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: we're used to seeing influencers choose. Most go for the 404 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: oval cut diamonds. It looked exactly like Kim Kardashian's ring 405 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: that Chris Humphries gave her, but like much smaller. Yeah, 406 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: and they didn't get right. It was still a big ring. 407 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: But as soon as I saw it, I thought, that 408 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: is the exact same style. Now, Mia shared further videos 409 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: of the proposal, which showed that Justin had organized a 410 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: light up marry me signed to be set up, as 411 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: well as a violinist and a bunch of white flowers, 412 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: and Justin was wearing a white jacket with a black turtleneck. 413 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: So I personally did not like the light up sound. 414 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: It kind of looked like something you get from Kamar, 415 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: not Tuscany. A lot of people are questioning because it 416 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: looked very curated, very Instagram. People are saying that Mia 417 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: just came up with it, basically said to Justin, you're 418 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: doing this, maybe even set it up herself. Pro I 419 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: was going to say, it sounds like she's been totally involved, 420 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: the fact that she knows the jeweler, so that she 421 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: designed it herself exactly. It just didn't feel very lovey dubby. 422 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: It just felt like it was all for the gram. 423 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: I think it missed the mark as well, because it 424 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: had that vibe and then the esthetic wasn't quite there. 425 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: It was quite interesting because a lot of people said 426 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: that the location looked very similar to where influencer Riley 427 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: Hempson got engaged, but her photos seemed to be a 428 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: lot more authentic. In the moment, it didn't seem so 429 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: curated and posed. I actually don't think it would be 430 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: that great getting proposed to in Europe because unless like 431 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: your friends and family were over there at the same time, 432 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: maybe it is really weird, flat feeling. Yeah, but the 433 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: thing is you got to remember they've got the coin. 434 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: They'd be absolutely living it up there at the moment. 435 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: It's not like they're trunk it's not like they're backpackage. 436 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: But do they have the coin? I usually feel like 437 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: the people who splash it the most of the people 438 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: who perhaps don't have it and are using loans. And 439 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: I am interested to follow me as very high end 440 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: wedding journey. 441 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: All right, where are all my conspiracy theorists up? 442 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: Chloe's EPP has been accused of being an alleged Keem 443 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: trail conspiracy theorist after she shared how condensation trails left 444 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: by planes had ruined her beach day. Amy what is 445 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: going on? 446 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: Well? 447 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: Chloe jumped on her story to complain of the condensation 448 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: trails left behind by planes over the Gold Coast. So 449 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: she shared photos of blue sky with the condensation trails 450 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: and wrote, Wow, what a perfect day. Next minute, she 451 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: added the level emoji to another photo, and on the 452 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: next photo wrote still going. She finished up with a 453 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: shot of condensation trail over the beach with the caption update. Now, 454 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: while Chloe didn't overtly say it, people are assuming, based 455 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: on her post that she is an alleged Keem trail 456 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist. Now, just to keep the lawyers happy, it's 457 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: important to note that this is just pure speculation. Yes, 458 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: there is no evidence to prove that. Now, some people 459 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: may be wondering what is a kem trail conspiracy theorist? 460 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: So they believe that the puffy white trails behind planes 461 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: are evidence of something sinister going on, and in reality, 462 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: they are just condensation trails that form when water, vapor, 463 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: and fine soot from burning jet fuel freeze into ice crystals. 464 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: It feels like a bit of a science lesson today. Now, 465 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: you will often see vapor trails over large areas of 466 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: the sky when there is high humidity, So that's why 467 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: I sometimes will see these white, puffy lines and sometimes 468 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: you won't. It really just depends on the humidity. However, 469 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: conspiracist bel these trails are actually chemicals that are being 470 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: sprayed for purposes undisclosed to the general public. And while 471 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: this conspiracy isn't new, it has recently gained momentum from 472 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: the anti vax movement. Of course, so recently social media 473 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: posts have started popping up claiming that the government has 474 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: approved the COVID nineteen vaccine to be released into the 475 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: air by aerial distribution. Really yeah, so their claims were 476 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: a result of people misinterpreting information on the Department of 477 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: Health's Office of the Gene Technology Regulator website. There is 478 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: a great article on the ABC's website that goes into 479 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: debunking this claim, which will link in the show notes 480 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: and as usual influence updates. AU was all over this 481 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: story and she was quick to share Chloe's post, which 482 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: attracted a lot of conversation. Now, boyfriend of Instagram or 483 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: should I say former boyfriend of Instagram Mitch Third, jumped 484 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: into the comments to defend his friend. He wrote, I 485 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: back your Chloe's that people who aren't even just a 486 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: little curious are the ones probably line up for their 487 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: tenth booster or identifying as a cat. Now Biologist LC 488 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: was quick to shoot him down, writing, imagine linking this 489 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: to a life saving vaccine science and mocking diverse gender 490 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: identities less than twenty four hours after an anti trans 491 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: Nazi protest, comments like these are harmful and disgusting. Be 492 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: more responsible with your platform. Just discussing comments really? From 493 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: which third very disappointing. He did jump on his stories, 494 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: labeling the backlash as toxic and negative. He claimed he 495 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: posted the comments to take the piss. Let's throw to 496 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: what he said. 497 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: Me, when did social media get so toxic and negative? 498 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: I left this comment. One of my friends was posting 499 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 3: about the cloud shit today, and so I posted his 500 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: comment taking the piss, something about tenth booster and identifying 501 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: as a cat like shout out to my trends up. 502 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: You know, god, it's just not the non binder. Anyway, 503 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 3: I left his comment. I left his com I'll even here, 504 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: but I just can't. With low vibe, low energy, low frequency. 505 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: Look at the comments. It is so like negative. Are 506 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: trying to be literally comment at me, guys, move with love, 507 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: like I now see why people are just shutting them 508 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: out on these comments on these topics. Move we love. 509 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: People understand what I'm just joking. 510 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: It's just hard to even give this common airtime and 511 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: to even unpack it because he's just clearly a fucking idiot. 512 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: So earlier in the day, Mitch asked his followers to 513 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: share some conspiracy theories with him about the condensation trails. 514 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: Let's row to what he said, Like. 515 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: What's this I'm doing? I don't get it. I've heard 516 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: so many things chemicals in the air, cloud seating, like 517 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 3: is it going to be raining tomorrow? Is it going 518 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: to be raining tomorrow Wednesday? Or are these dumping chemicals 519 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: on us? It was all the small too, All right, 520 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: where are all my conspiracy theorists are? I want to 521 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: hear about it. I want to learn more about this 522 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: gone on these everywhere today? I don't know it's a 523 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: weather manipulation? Are they dumping chemicals on it? What else? 524 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: What else could it be? Like, I don't have zero 525 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: knowledge on this. Why is there a dude in a 526 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: plane just dump and shit? 527 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: Curius? 528 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: Curius, curius, send me some shit? 529 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: How many times did he drop the sea bomb during 530 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: this rent? It just made him sound even more uneducated now. 531 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: Mitch followed it up by posting a screenshot of a 532 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: document a follower sent him about the rain making act. 533 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: He wrote, is this a known thing? Apparently they schedule 534 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: this in so it's going to be raining cloudy tomorrow. 535 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: Mitch finished up on his stories by showing that it 536 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: had turned cloudy and the next day it was raining 537 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: as some sort of proof. So I do want to 538 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: explain this rain making act. So in two thousand and eight, 539 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: the Queensland Government did launch a cloud seating project in 540 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: an attempt to increase rainfall throughout Southeast Queensland catchments. The 541 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Queensland Government invested seven point six million dollars into the 542 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: project over four years. So basically how it worked where 543 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: clouds were injected with rain making particles. So the project 544 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: concluded back in twenty twelve, and there is no current 545 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: cloud seating or any other whether manipulation activity being conducted 546 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: by any agency or organization in the skies over Queensland. 547 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: It's just taking me back to twenty twenty vibes now 548 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: to wrap things up. Going back to Chloe Zepp, her 549 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: partner has shared that he and his dad, also known 550 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: as Angry Dad, have been studying their certificate for in 551 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: real estate practice. Is this the new cafe? Is this 552 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: the new business that we're seeing Mitch try out for 553 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Well, if that's what they want 554 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: to do, good on them for trying something new. I 555 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: could actually see Mitch doing pretty well in real estate. Yeah, 556 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense if they're looking to flip 557 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: properties and get into that area. Maybe they've been watching 558 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: lux List, because after Dale and I watched that, we 559 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: were convinced that we would be really good real estate agents. 560 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: I do like that Mitch and his dad are doing 561 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: it together. I feel like they need to document the 562 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: process and vog at all. Maybe that's the next reality 563 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: show I would watch that. Well, that is all we've 564 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: got time for today. Thanks for joining us for another 565 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: episode of Outspoken. He did enjoy the show. Please give 566 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: us a five star rating and don't forget to join 567 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: in on all the fun in our Facebook community Outspoken 568 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: the podcast community. And if he wondered why Sophie's voice 569 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: kept disappearing from some segments, it's because she had to 570 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: take her dog Artie to the beds. Look, let's not 571 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: mess around. 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