1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: One thing I noticed over the Christmas period was everyone's 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: talking about the best Christmas movies. Yes, and I wanted 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: to get your top three car movies. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so undoubtedly my number one is Back to. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: The Future and a car movie, because I was thinking 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: that too. But yeah, I guess it is. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: I'm going to class it as a car movie because 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: that basically spawned my passion for the dolore and I'm 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: desperately seeking one somewhere. So that's that's very much one 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: of one of my favorites. 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: I have a mate of mine who actually owns a 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Dolaurian in Geelong. Ah, that's cool. If you see one 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: driving around. Yeah, nice shout out to Matt Wilkinson. 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm jealous. That's that's cool. I still love those things. 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: They're notoriously unreliable. There's there's a couple of really great 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: documentaries on I think Netflix about Delarey and The Car 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: Company and The Man, and you've got to watch those 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: if you haven't seen that before. 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: So that's number one. Yeah, that's number one. 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Look, I think Ronan, I think that the car I've. 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Seen is that that d Niro film. 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to watch The Car chase scene like 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: it is, it is spectacular and look, I think I'm 24 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: probably going to offend a lot of people here, but 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: I cannot stand faster than the Furious at all. 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: I think it's just the biggest load of bullshit ever. 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: And I know that some people froth over it, but 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: I just it does nothing for me, and I think 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: it's so stupid, and that's why I like realistic films. 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: So Mad Max mad Max were part filmed in Geelong, 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: so that's probably why I don't like it too much. 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: It was in like Lara, they've got some of the 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: original Mad Max was sort of film there. The third 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: one is is actually something interesting. So the third one, 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: when I was a teenager, I think it was BMW 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: that released these. But who's Madonna's husband and Guy Richie? 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: They've got oh yeah, Guy Ritchie and Sean Penn. She 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: she went out with. 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: Guy Richie is the familiar one, but he basically directed 40 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: these films for BMW. They were short movies. They were 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: like four or five minutes long each and they all 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: featured a different BMW vehicle and they all had these 43 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: expensive car chase scenes and that was just so cool, 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: absolutely awesome, and I still got the DVD somewhere at home, 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: so I think it was called The Chase or something 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: like that, but that was paid for by BMW, and 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: I think it was just fantastic, absolutely fantastic. 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: So theyre are my three. Now, surprise, Thelma and Luiz 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: didn't make your top threat. Remember when remember when John 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: Claude van Dam did the splits between those two giant trucks. Yes, yes, 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, that could have been. That should have 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: been a movie. That should have been the way he 53 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: started and ended. You're gonna hate my top three. I'm 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: gonna say number three, Fast and Furious one only because 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: I know, because disappointed. I just think when you're a 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: little kid and you're going into the cinema. When I 57 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: wasn't a little kid, I just got my license and 58 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: that that had come out, and I just thought, fifty 59 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: huh your license at fifty? All right? Blood, you know 60 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: the red crack in the old jokes. I think you're actually, 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: to be honest, probably probably, I don't look at that. 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh well, all right, John English, come down. That is 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: a very old reference. 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, So Fast in the theory is one. What do 65 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: you like about that? 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: I think it's vin Diesel's commitment to family. 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: Good of the memes, I'll give that to you because 68 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: that was the only one I enjoyed. From there, they 69 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: just got progressively shitter. 70 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: But you got to know too that that was that 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: was such a brilliant era in cars because there was 72 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: the rise of the WRX, Yes there was. The street 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: scene was huge with Japanese cars drifting. Yeah, and also 74 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: nice little appreciation for the classics. Yes, it was Suki's 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: Honda AS two thousand in that Oh the pink one 76 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: she bought that, didn't she? 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was that. I remember seeing it at 78 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: the Peterson Museum. 79 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: Did you notice how much of a ship box that 80 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: car was? 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: It was really bad, really poorly done it. Yeah, magic 82 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: you look. 83 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you look inside it and it was just, oh, 84 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: you felt like you were catching the bloody std just 85 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: sitting in the thing, which I did all right, fast 86 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: and furious. Is number three. You're gonna hate it, But 87 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: for some reason mad Max kept coming back. And I 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: was gonna say number two. But also was the new 89 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: one the Fury Road or something? I quite like that one. Okay, 90 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 1: I mean here's the thing. Can you count Batman and 91 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: all those sort of films as car movies. I guess 92 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said back to the Future. I don't know. 93 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: I just think when I think car movie, I think 94 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: movies with. 95 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: Cars in more car check cool car scenes. 96 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, just cool car things, you know what I mean. 97 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: It's Lose Brothers. Okay. Number one, this is controversial, the 98 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: Furious number fifteen again Vin Diesel's commitment to Fanboy. Number 99 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: one is Rush. Oh yeah, with Chris Hemsworth. It was 100 00:04:53,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: the Nikki Lordo. Yes, his name James Hunt. James Hunt. Yeah, 101 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: that's your biopic. Yeah, that was actually pretty good. Otherwise 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: I was going to say somewhere in the top ten 103 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: would have to be what is it Ford Versus Ferrari? Oh? Yeah, okay, cool? 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I thought Rush was actually pretty good. That 105 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: wasn't too bad. The Ford Versus Ferrari film was pretty 106 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: good as well. 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 108 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: Look, I'd be interested in hearing from you. If you're 109 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: listening to this contact at the drive show dot com 110 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: today you let us know what your top three car 111 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: movies are and whether they actually have to have like 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: actual car things in them, or whether they could be. 113 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: Backs of the future. Guarantee someone's going to write in 114 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: I thought the Best of Bathurst on my DVD was 115 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: the best car movie of all times. All right, what 116 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: are we going to talk about today? We're going to 117 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: talk news. We're going to talk stuff about Lotus in 118 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: a second, some sad news. I think about Lotus, but 119 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: I guess that's the world. We are some stuff about 120 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: the Ford, Mustang land Cruiser, land Cruiser, Yes, problems with 121 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: the land Cruiser. We're going to review the Porsche te 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: Can Turbo. I nearly called it the GTS. But yeah, 123 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: let's talk Where do we go? First? Lotus? Lotus. 124 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: So the Elise, the ex Siege and the Avora have 125 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: been taken out the back and shot and killed. 126 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: They are dead. They are gone making way for is 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: it the Emira? Yep so production has ended. Yeah, so 128 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: this is an interesting one because they also came out 129 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: with this mad ass electric looking car which I can't pronounce, Yeah, 130 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the Avega Avia whatever it's called the e Vagina, And 131 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's the priceest supercar you've ever seen. It's incredible. 132 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: But I love that they've taken parts of that and 133 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: they've put it in this mirror. July twenty twenty two. 134 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure if I'm right here, but I'm 135 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: going to say mid engine it was a Toyota three 136 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: point five, yes, or the engine out of the eight 137 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: forty five AMG. 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the small one, the two leader, Yeah, the hand grenade. 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: At any point it could blow up because it's got 140 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: so much boost. I've got a bit of trivia here 141 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: for you. So basically, those three cars that I mentioned 142 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: earlier that they've now killed, they were in production at 143 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: the company's plant over the period of twenty six years. 144 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: How many do you reckon they built? I don't think many. 145 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: So over twenty six years, how many do you reckon? 146 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: They sort of rolled out? Twenty six years is a 147 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: long time, almost. 148 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Thirty years downwards of hang on, we're talking twenty years. 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: So I would take whatever you think they produced per year, 150 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: multiply it by thirty. 151 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Jesus kind of just say, look, I 152 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: just reckoned all up under fifty thousand. 153 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: Oh that was close, Okay, So fifty one thousand, seven 154 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight, I reckon, that's a lot. Really, Actually, 155 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: maybe it's not over thirty years. Let me just do 156 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: the sums there. Fifty one massage now divided by twenty 157 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: six you've got a calculated there two thousand a year, 158 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: which is a fair bit. 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: That's what that's worldwide. Yeah, I don't know. 160 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: I was expecting it to be far less than that. So, 161 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: you know, that's interesting. 162 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 1: And all in between as well. 163 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: Lotus was bought by a Chinese manufacturer, so they're currently 164 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: you know, the under the sort of guys of Chinese 165 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: production and they're going to be they reckon. They have 166 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: a production capacity of one hundred and fifty thousand vehicles 167 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: at the new Chinese plant, which covers an area of 168 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: over one million meters squared, which is a lot. So 169 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: they've invested one point seven billion dollars into the plant, 170 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: which is. 171 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: Where is that situated, by the way, is that in China? 172 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a Chinese production plant. 173 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: Well you'd be surprised they could find an even cheaper 174 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: place than China. 175 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see, you know, how it goes 176 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: with this new car. I find it interesting that they're 177 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: going down the path of taking a Mercedes Ben's engine 178 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: and a Toyota engine, and. 179 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: They've rund the Toyota engine for a while. 180 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: That right, Yeah, but you look at it, it's like the 181 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: toyte engine you would think is very reliable, and then 182 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: they just go and get a Mercedes engine. 183 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, it's an interesting with the loadus, isn't 184 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: it had a very up and down history. I love them, 185 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: I just I think they're great. I know they've they've 186 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: got their problems and issues here and there, and you know, 187 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: there's certain models where I think the key would be 188 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: to join some sort of forum to find out know 189 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: what you're buying. But I think they look cool. I 190 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: think the newer Mirror I get why they've kind of 191 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: stopped these as sad as it is, I get why 192 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: they've stopped them and just moved it and concentrated to 193 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: the Mirror. Yeah. 194 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: Look, I'm excited to see how it goes because you know, 195 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: as much as they have a check at history in 196 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: terms of reliability that there've always been fun cast to drive. There, 197 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: immensely capable, and I think that the Mirror is paving 198 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: the path to a more sort of streamlined sports car 199 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: that isn't just a hardcore track car. So yeah, it'll 200 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: be interesting to see how it goes. And I think 201 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: the ev future is interesting as well, because everyone's moving, 202 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 2: you know, to that space and it's going to mean 203 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: big things for Lotus, and it means that you can 204 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: have a fast accelerating car fairly easily because you're just 205 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: strapping motors to batteries and they have the nouse to 206 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: make a handling car, so they could actually be a 207 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: force to be reckoned with once it all sort of 208 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: rolls around. 209 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: And I think this a mirror is probably going to 210 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: be their last petrol car. 211 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean it's it seems to be heading 212 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: that way. So you can see why they've gone and 213 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: just taken the engines from established brands. You just get 214 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: that out of the way and then away you go. 215 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: They've got a platform that is going to be dedicated 216 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: to the electric components as well. So yeah, it is 217 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: exciting stuff and I'll be ken to see how it 218 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: sort of pans out for them. 219 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: The almighty Toyota Land Cruise of three hundred, which we 220 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: reviewed in a previous app Ye, basically, if you want 221 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: to grab onto the steering wheel of the new Land 222 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Cruise of three hundred that you paid one hundred and 223 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars, well, here's a bit of an 224 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: impression that's actually just me knocking on Paul's head. 225 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 226 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: So, look, we've exclusively reveal that Toyota is currently investigating 227 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: a knocking issue in the new three hundred series. And 228 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: look what happened initially was when we drove our first car, 229 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: which was a VX. We had to borrow it from 230 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: a dealer because Toyta couldn't get us a car to test, 231 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: and the car had five kilometers on the clock. And 232 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: I first observed the knocking sound when we were doing 233 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: some off roading and assumed it was an issue with 234 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: the car's pre delivery. And I thought, look, I'm not 235 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 2: going to mention anything. It's a brand new car. It 236 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: hasn't been pre delivered correctly. They'll sort that out at 237 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: some point. We then drove a subsequent three cars after that, 238 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: so we had a Jar Sport, a Sahara ZX. 239 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: And they that's pretty much the top of the range 240 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: ones too. 241 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, plus another and they have all had the exact 242 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: same knocking sound and it happens at low speed on corrugations. 243 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Toyota claims that it has something to do with the 244 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: steering system and that they're currently investigating the reason I'm 245 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: concerned about this is it wasn't isolated just to the 246 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: media vehicles which were all used for the media launch 247 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: and then given out to media after that for some 248 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: sort of fairly hard driving. If it was the case, 249 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: i'd think, well, they're probably the first cars in the country. 250 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: Maybe there was something wrong with them. But the fact 251 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: that this has now been observed on a customer's car, 252 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: which a dealer demo which will eventually become a customer's car, 253 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 2: plus these three media vehicles, leads me to believe that 254 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: it is an issue with the vehicle in general, and 255 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: if it is, it sounds because it is hardware. 256 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Related, that it could mean to recall at some point 257 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: down the track. If it is found to be a problem. 258 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: You can't even call that a shipping issue really if. 259 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: It's happening on all three Yeah, exactly. So, Yeah, it 260 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: is disappointing because they spent a lot of time engineering 261 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: this car. The driving that we were doing was very basic, 262 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: and it would stun me if they didn't observe this 263 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: during the engineering process. So I am surprised that it 264 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: hasn't been picked up and the cars are now getting 265 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: delivered with these issues. 266 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: So there was something going down with the Ford Mustang 267 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: Mark one where You're basically promised all this stuff and 268 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: it didn't come with said stuff. So then Ford came 269 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: out and said, well you can have you know, here's 270 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: a showbag of goodies. Shut your mouth if you know 271 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: what's good for your tuts, slaps them on the cheek. 272 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: So that's just what I did. Paul sometimes tell no one, yes, 273 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 1: you hear me, and he zips his pants up and 274 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: leaves the room with a very sad face. 275 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: Well, let me explain what was going on for those 276 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: of you that are still listening. 277 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Basically, Ford, when they offered the. 278 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Mark one for sale here, there was a long waiting 279 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: list and customers were basically waiting around to get their cars, 280 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: and they were given brochures when they first ordered their 281 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: cars indicating what you would get with them. 282 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: Now, these cars, for those that. 283 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: Don't know, a special edition sort of track oriented cars 284 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: that use some of the elements from the GT three 285 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: point fifty Shelby vehicle. In the States, they cost over 286 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: eighty thousand dollars before on road cost, which is twenty 287 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: grand more than a GT manual. And Ford basically put 288 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: together a brochure that said it had all of these 289 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: features right, and someone at Forward whether it's just a 290 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: marketing internal someone has made the mistake here by mentioning 291 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: things that it would have that didn't have. And these 292 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 2: are things that are available on the US vehicle but 293 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: not available for some reason on the right hand drive 294 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: Australian one. And these included things like a torson limited 295 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: slip differential, rear parking sensors, led fog lamps, Mustang mark 296 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: one floor mats, and ambient lighting in the door pockets. 297 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: So those things weren't included, so Forward identified the issue. 298 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: After some customers complained, they offered them either a full 299 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: refund so that's your deposit. 300 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: Everything, which is fair enough. That's nice. Yep, you can walk. 301 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: Away if you don't want the car, or a cash 302 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: payment of five four hundred dollars plus and the addition 303 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: of some free services and a track day as well. 304 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: So that's good. That's a good compensation, like six. 305 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 2: Or seven grand worth of stuff there for your enduring 306 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: what you enjoyed. 307 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: I'd love to guy, I'd like I just love to 308 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: hear one of the people just going, I don't care 309 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: what you're giving me. I paid for mood lighting. I 310 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: want my mood lighting and just throws five thousand dollars 311 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: cash on their face. 312 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: You thought that'd be the end of it, right, and 313 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: Ford would just in front to be happy. The A 314 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: Triple See then investigated because someone must have complained to 315 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: them all or they would have seen what was going on. 316 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: And the A Triple See came out and said, okay, 317 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: well we've had enough of this Ford, we're going to 318 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: find you. And they find them fifty two thousand dollars. 319 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: It's like fifty two thousand dollars you guys, actually serious? 320 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: Fifty two grand? Yeah, oh oh, seems a little steep, 321 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: but see that and then just throws it at their feet. No, 322 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: you pick it up. It's a slap on the wrist 323 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: anyone would take. You know what it is. 324 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: And that's a thing. Okay, fair enough, you know Ford 325 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: did the wrong thing. But they went above and beyond 326 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: here and if you were going to find them, find 327 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: them properly. 328 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: It's a weird statement to kind of make you know 329 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, It's like a it's what does that 330 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: show the industry exactly? 331 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: Well, this is my concern, right that we every week 332 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: we get emails from people talking about their cars and 333 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: all these issues they're having in manufacturers that refuse to 334 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: fix them properly. Let's maybe crack down on these people 335 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: and get involved in chasing car companies that don't give 336 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: people their consumer rights as opposed to just these random 337 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: things they're doing at the moment. 338 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: So, yeah, very strange to me, Posha taken. Shall we 339 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: talk about this, Yeah, let's do it. 340 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty two Porsche tay Can bold unapologetic, seriously quick. 341 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: Prices start from one hundred and fifty three thousand, six 342 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: hundred dollars for the entry level all the way to 343 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: three hundred and forty eight hundred dollars for the tops 344 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: Big tay Can Turbo is. 345 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: Tay Can take the pusha too Can. Yeah, it's a 346 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: burning it's an exotic bird. Tell us how you would 347 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: pronounce it? And Porsche as well? 348 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: Is it Porchet, Porsche, Porsche Porch? 349 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: When I bought it, Porsche was telling you specifically by 350 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: the dealer, Yes, you had to call it Poorscha. 351 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: Poorsche, Okay, and Tykahn, how do you pronounce that's a 352 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: contact at the drive show dot com. 353 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: Do you tell us how we pronounce these things? Something 354 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: with an Australian accents? Fine? Maybe the Menaro, so you 355 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: can get to the taie cam. Would you could I 356 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: just quickly share a Menaro story? Oh please? Yeah. 357 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 2: I used to do these radio segments on this car 358 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: stuff and. 359 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: With the old Persion station. I remember listening to your program. 360 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 1: It was the worst show on radio. It's borderline finch if. 361 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: One time I had to talk on a camera station 362 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: about speed cameras. It wasn't that Chorea highlight on the 363 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: Manaro Highway And I read it as Menaro because that's 364 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: exactly how it's spelled, exactly, And I called it Menaro 365 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: like seven times. And after I hang up the phone, 366 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: I don't listen to the station. After that, they had 367 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: all these people call up saying, who is that guy? 368 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: Because he can't pronounce the name of the road properly. 369 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you can't pronounce the name of the 370 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: car properly. 371 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: So let's so it's pronounced Miniro, Miniro, yeah, nero. And 372 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's not how it spelled. So in 373 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: these parts we call it Miniro. Is this bloody university 374 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: trendy renaming our Yeah. As someone who's worked in tiny 375 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: towns in radio, I can tell you now if you 376 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: mispronounce a suburb on the radio. They will, Oh my god, 377 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: they will know. They will let you know about it. 378 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: You're ready these names where you're just like, what is this? Oh, listen, 379 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: there's been a roadblockage and Kicker can around. Make sure 380 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: you turn left to tear a bag apart as a 381 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: deed tour anyway, taycan taken taken. So this is the 382 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: second one I've driven now. The first one was a 383 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: cross trismo. 384 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: This one that we just checked out out the front 385 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: here is a just the standard Taykwan in turbo trim, 386 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: and I guess if you're if you're unable to picture 387 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: of this in your head. It basically shares a platform 388 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: with Panamira, so it looks very similar to a Panamera 389 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: in that sense of the body shape. 390 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: And it's priced between I'm. 391 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: Going to get this right, a kN and a Panamera 392 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: in terms of pricing, is my understanding. So it kind 393 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: of slots in between those two in terms of how 394 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: much it costs. 395 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: It's starting at around two sixty eight. Well, it depends 396 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: which one you go for. So the Tykon for s, 397 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: which was the entry level. Then they're now going down 398 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: the path of offering real will drive and so on 399 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: and so forth. But the Taykon for S started. 400 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: From one hundred and ninety one thousand dollars, so that 401 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: was when they first launched here in Australia. 402 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: The Turbo then. 403 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: Put that up to two hundred and sixty nine thousand dollars, 404 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: so it's climbed episode slightly since then. And there is 405 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: a Turbo S which sits above that at three hundred 406 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: and thirty nine thousand, and that's. 407 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: The top speck, isn't it. Yes, And so the GTS 408 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: is kind of that sort of sweet spot, right. 409 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: The GTS will sit between the four S and the turbos, 410 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: so there's a little bit of breathing room there. 411 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: Now when it comes to charging these bad boys up. 412 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: It has the ability to charge with at eight hundred volts. 413 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: You can do three phase charging up to twenty two kilowats, 414 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: which is pretty insane for just a standard road cart. 415 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: Before I came to see you today, I was charging 416 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: at a fast charger at a peak of two hundred 417 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: and fifty six kilowatts or something like that. 418 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: So that's we're on the borderline of sounding interesting and informative, 419 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: So which I don't do talk to me like I'm 420 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: five years old. For two seconds. 421 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: So between ten percent and eighty percent, it took twenty minutes, okay, 422 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: and that adds around three hundred kilometers of range. Right, 423 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 2: It's it's very fast in terms of how it charges, 424 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: and it has all the infrastructure on board to allow 425 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: it to do that. So, and then in terms of performance, 426 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: it will do zero to one hundred in entry level 427 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: forest trim at four seconds, and as you move your 428 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: way up it tops out at two point eight seconds 429 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: in the turbost. 430 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, though your particular line I think is 431 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: around about three point one yep. 432 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: But keep in mind with Porsche, the numbers they quote 433 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 2: are always just not right. You always get much better 434 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: than that. So the standard turbo will probably do a 435 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: two point nine, and then the turbo s will probably 436 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: do about two point three or two point two, which. 437 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: Is just megafast. That's madness. It is just crazy. If 438 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: you look at a Tesla models right, and you've got 439 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: the Porsche take ant turbo. The Tesla's notoriously great at 440 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: driving in a straight line. This seems like that too, 441 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: But what do you think handles corners better? Okay? 442 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: So This is a heavy vehicle. So when I say heavy, 443 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: I mean over two tons, and it's. 444 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: More than like I say, a Ford F one fifty. 445 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: That's a big car. 446 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well on fifty is aluminium, so it is fairly light. 447 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: But this is heavier than a Ranger for example. So 448 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: the tykwon Turbo twenty three hundred kilos. So it is 449 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: a whopper of a thing, and that's because you have 450 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 2: a huge battery pack beneath the skin. But being a Porsche, 451 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: it handles incredibly and it uses a forty eight vault 452 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 2: electronic stabilizer at the front of the rear, so when 453 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: you're going around a corner, it's able to basically keep 454 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: the body dead flat as it powers out of the corner. 455 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: You've got adaptive damping and it feels like a Porsche, 456 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 2: and I think that's the important thing. It actually feels 457 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: every bit of Porsche that a Panamira or a kN 458 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: with this kind of juice wood. 459 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the start of Porsche pretty much going 460 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: to all electric, which I think they'll do. Yep. Maybe 461 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: for history's sake, they'll keep the nine to eleven petrol 462 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: as long as they can. Yep. Do you think that 463 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: they're losing something going to electric. 464 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: No, Look, if it's done properly, they won't and I 465 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: think this is done properly. The only thing I didn't 466 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: really love about it it's got a two speed gearbox, 467 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: and normally with an EV the whole reason they're so 468 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: fast and potent is because they don't have any gears. 469 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: It's a single speed transmission. The problem is, though that 470 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: transmission can spin up to something like seventeen thousand rpm. 471 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: The higher the rpm, the less. 472 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: Talk that you have. 473 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: So if you're on the autobar and doing two hundred 474 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: and twenty k's an hour, which is very realistic for 475 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: most cars, let alone a sports car like this, when 476 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: you nail it, you want it to hoof a long. 477 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: You want to feel it. 478 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're in a Tesla doing two hundred k's 479 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: an hour and nail it, you genuinely would feel in 480 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: terms of the talk and the acceleration, it would feel 481 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: less than what you would feel in a Golf GTI 482 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: taking off, So it is dramatically different as the speed 483 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: picks up. Well, that wasn't good enough for Porsche. They 484 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: wanted to be able to do two twenty to nail 485 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: it and to get pinned back in the seat. The 486 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: only way to do that is to have gearing, and 487 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: they have a two speed transmission, and up until around 488 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: sixty k's an hour, you're in first gear, so for 489 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: rapid acceleration, at some point it will seamlessly transition to 490 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: the second gear and then continue accelerating. The problem is 491 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: when you're doing low speeds and it's already in the 492 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: second gear, or you're doing lower speeds and it's in 493 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: the first gear and needs to transition to the second 494 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: gear because it thinks you're going to go beyond that 495 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: sixty k and hour mark. You can actually feel it 496 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: kicking back a gear and I don't really want to 497 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 2: feel that in an EV. 498 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: But outside of that, it is a whopper of a car. 499 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: Five hundred kilos of power, eight hundred and fifty meters 500 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: of talk like it's some serious stuff. And Mi car 501 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: even has the option of the externals speaker. Oh everyone, 502 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh so everyone could hear? And you can you still 503 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: set that external speaker to different tones? 504 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't really have a great deal of customizability 505 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: with In a Tesla, you do, Oh God, here we go. 506 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: In a Tesla, you can actually talk to people and 507 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: they just, yeah, they just did a firm more update 508 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: for Christmas where it will play like Christmas tunes and 509 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: flash the lights for you. 510 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's the equivalent of wearing rollerblades in a 511 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: fanny pack. I just I want to say, I want 512 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: to say a word, which I'm not going to. What 513 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: do you think of the design? I like it? Do 514 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: you know what's funny is everyone was when the Panemira 515 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: came out. I think generally the consensus with the Panemira 516 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: was you ever loved it or you hated it. And 517 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: I think a lot more people hated the design than 518 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: loved it. I feel I think it was about the 519 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: original one or the current one. I'm going to say 520 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: the original. Yes, we're right. And I heard all these 521 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: wacky stories, like one of the heads are Porsche was like, 522 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: I want to be able to fit and zeeback sit, 523 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: so the roof needs to go over my head, like 524 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: hence that kind of weird sloping roof, And so it's 525 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: weird that they've come out with like a design that 526 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: is similar in a lot of ways. I like it though, 527 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: I really do. Look, I love Porsche. I love what 528 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: they're all about. I love how everything generally inside I'm 529 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: not talking about the electric but generally as a brand. 530 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: I think everything with that car is so wonderfully in 531 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: sync and there's almost like this I don't know, harmony 532 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: or cohesion everything. It's such a road feeling car, if 533 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: that makes sense. God, I've bloody done four episodes of 534 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: you sound like such a wanker down but affected you. Yeah, 535 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: if you're saying that this car feels like a Porsche, 536 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: I think that hats off where it's due. Because if 537 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: you can take something like that and move it to electric, 538 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty incredible. Whereas you look at say Tesla, 539 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: they never kind of had that at the start. You know, 540 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: they were sort of you. 541 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: Set your own soul right, and their soul is technology 542 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: more than what Porsche has and Porsche has to you know, 543 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: if you're transitioning from a vehicle from a Porsche into this, 544 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: you want it to feel familiar. And that's why it 545 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: still has the stupid turbo badge even though it doesn't 546 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: have a turbo. To a customer, when you're going to 547 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: go ask them for two hundred and I've just had 548 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 2: to look at the updated pricing here. When you're going 549 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: to ask them for two hundred and seventy six thousand 550 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: dollars for your new electric car. They're going to go 551 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: excuse me, and the you go, no, no, it's the turbo. 552 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: And then they go, oh, okay, that's fine because the 553 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: turbo is the expensive one in the rest of the range. 554 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: So I get the mentality right, and it's it's an 555 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: easy way for them to do it. And to be honest, 556 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: the turbos, yeah, it comes with additional stuff like your 557 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: carbon ceramic brakes and everything. But the margin on these 558 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: now is crazy because you can take a turbo with 559 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: effectively the same motors and batteries, plug a computer into. 560 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: It and go, you know the type defects. 561 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then all of a sudden you've got an 562 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: extra fifty kilowatts or something and you haven't had to 563 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 2: do a thing, but now you can charge them an 564 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: extra almost eighty thousand dollars for it. 565 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting that you say that because I was comparing 566 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: this to say the GTS, because I thought we were 567 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: looking at a GDS today, right, But if you look 568 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: at the pricing, say the turbo's two sixty eight or 569 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: two sixty nine, the GTS is two thirty seven. Right, 570 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: one thing you're getting on both cars is dual motor 571 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: or will drive four forty kilowatts on the GTS, five 572 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: hundred on the turbop so only sixty killer watts more 573 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: zero to one hundred on the GTS in three point seven, 574 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: zero to one hundred on the turbo in three point one. Yep, 575 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: I just I kind of feel like the GTS would 576 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: be the sweet spot. 577 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: It is, and that's the thing I forgot to mention 578 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: earlier that now with the real will drive version of 579 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: the tay Carn that's entered the range, that starts off 580 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: at one hundred and fifty six grand, so that's actually 581 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: realistic money for people stepping up to a GTS then 582 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: actually brings you a whole lot more above and beyond that. 583 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: So they're really filled out the range beautifully with vehicles 584 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: to choose from. 585 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I like what they've done. 586 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: They need to work on things like storage. 587 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: With an EV platform, you have so much extra room 588 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 2: around motors, and this platform has denied them the ability 589 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 2: to actually have TESLAS type storage. 590 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: So there we go. Good. 591 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: So I think that they need to work on that, 592 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: and once they do that you've actually got a car 593 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: that is really fun to drive. 594 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: It's incredibly comfortable. 595 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: Like I've been carting around my daughter, my wife, all 596 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: of our shit for Christmas and it is just a 597 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: highway cruise that it is beautiful. So yeah, I think 598 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: it's a great car. And if you are a Porsche 599 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: owner and you want to get one of these, you 600 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: will feel the Porsche sold in it. It feels like 601 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: a Porsche. 602 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what you call it. The infotainment system 603 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: on the passenger side, I guess I don't think how 604 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: much is that as an option. 605 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: It's something like fifteen hundred bucks or something like that. 606 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: They add a second screen. 607 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: It's literally right next to the middle one, and it 608 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: gives you nothing that the middle one like it. It's 609 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: just mirror a mirror image of the middle screen. It 610 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: just seems so pointless. It's like it's basically therefore, generally, 611 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: if your passenger wants to choose the music and. 612 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: They can't be bothered extending their arm by four centimeters. 613 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: To choose the GPS location, like it's that's silly. 614 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: Look, it was a novelty thing, I feel, and I 615 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: just don't think it'll be there in the future because 616 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: Varrari's tried to do it, Everyone's tried to do it, 617 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: and it's just it's pointless. 618 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: It looks cool, don't get me wrong, but unless it's 619 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: going to serve a purpose, a better purpose than what 620 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: it currently is. 621 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: Now, I showed you the as well. What did you 622 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: think about adjusting those the events? The events you can 623 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: adjust them? When did you show me that your memory 624 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: is like a goldfish roughly forty five? 625 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Right now? What do you expect? 626 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: So with the events, you can't manually move them. You 627 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: have to actually go into the settings and. 628 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, yes, sorry, the air conditioning events, yes, okay, 629 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: so I think we're talking about the things on the 630 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: front of the car. 631 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: Ah. 632 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's dumb, that's silly. You literally go into the 633 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: computer system to change the direction of where the air 634 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: is coming from the air con, whereas you can do 635 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: that in two seconds flat just manually using a normal 636 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: like it's that's pointless. Yes, I will throw it. Just 637 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: when you're going one hundred k's an hour down a 638 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: highway and you're trying to like figure out the air con. 639 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: There's nothing good about that. 640 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gotta say, my Tesla does that so my 641 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: model three. See Rosy, you have to do this. 642 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: I feel like on a I feel like on a 643 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: Saturday night you say all right, honey, I'm going out, 644 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: and you just sit in your car, sit in your Tesla, 645 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, because you can watch YouTube on your test, like, 646 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: can't you. I feel like you just be like, all right, 647 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm just going to type in my favorite porno here 648 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 1: and then it's up comes cor expert. Hi Paul here. 649 00:30:53,400 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now getting set? Am I doing? Here? Oh? 650 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: The Tesla s the model as This is the bit 651 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: where I point out the interior. Right now, I'm going 652 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: to point out my interior. Then you just get this. 653 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: It is so disturbing. Well, it does have white seats, 654 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: so it's well, it's very easy. Just wet one in 655 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: the glove box. Yeah. 656 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: Well, the reason I say I pulled it out by 657 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: car there is because I don't actually remember the last 658 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: time I moved the vents, because once you set them once, 659 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: you don't really touch them. And I think now that 660 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: I've spent the second sort of week in this in 661 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: this car, I haven't actually moved the vents after setting 662 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: them the first time, So I think it is stupid 663 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: but equally, I think that you don't worry about it 664 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: if you own the car. But second to all of that, 665 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: I think that imagine the weight that's added by those 666 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: and the complexities in making that work. Surely it's just 667 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: easier to have manually events than having to faf around 668 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: with that stuff. 669 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they wanted to do something innovative, I feel 670 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: like there's a better way they could have done it, 671 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: and that was not it. Yes, I agree, But great car, 672 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: yes it is. I think it's an important car, and 673 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: I think it's Porsche putting the EV market in an 674 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: amazing space or pointing it in a great pathway. I 675 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: feel like there's more to come, obviously with this car, 676 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: because we're still early days. But the main question is 677 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: which I kind of know the answer to already, But 678 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: would you buy one of these over your Tesla, your 679 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: beloved Tesla? 680 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: No, not because I didn't like the car, but because 681 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: I've realized that with a young daughter and all of 682 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: the shit that comes with that, it just would not 683 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: suit us. I can, you know, the pram fits in 684 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: the back and all that sort of stuff, but going 685 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: away for Christmas, it was impossible to load things in. 686 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: There is a cross charisma version. I test that out recently. 687 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: It's like a wagon right, But ultimately I would just 688 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: wait for the mccahn. I would like I would buy 689 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: a Porsche version of an EV that has storage because 690 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: I really like what they've done with it. 691 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: So do you like the McCanns. I don't hate them 692 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: at the moment. 693 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: I don't love them because even like the turbo version 694 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: isn't just really all that fast for me. But if 695 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: they do a fast version like this, I would buy 696 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: an EV Porsche. 697 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: So they'd be doing the mccahn the Cayman as well. Yeah, 698 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: I think so Cameman and boxed. It will be ev afied. 699 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: That's an interesting one, isn't it Because when you look 700 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: at when you look at that they're engines. The kind 701 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: of selling point with those is the engines are in 702 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: the middle yep, beautifully weighted. There must be some amazing 703 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: engineering going on if they can do that in this. 704 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: It's actually easier with this because your battery pack sits 705 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: on the floor, so you have a low center of gravity. 706 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: Your motors can then be in line with the axle, 707 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: so then you can play with how much weight you 708 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: want over the front or rear to get you that 709 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: weight distribution that you want. So, if anything, it's easier 710 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: with an EV to get the fifty to fifty or 711 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: or whatever weight distribution you want to suit them vehicle. 712 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: In addition to that, you. 713 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: Can also like you can control how much talk is 714 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: going to each wheel instantly. 715 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Yeah, it's finessing. Yeah, why 716 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: we wrap things up. Top. Three cars that you're looking 717 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: forward to for twenty twenty two. 718 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: Looking forward to the new Forward Ranger, so more specifically 719 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 2: the Ranger Raptor. I think that's going to be an 720 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: absolute beast of a thing. I cannot wait to drive 721 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: the Audi e Tron GT so, yeah, the Audi version 722 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: of the Taekwon Turbo. I think that looks absolutely stunning. 723 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: And I think that looks it looks proper coal, doesn't it. 724 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: So I think that'll be really cool. And then third 725 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: one good question, what else am I looking forward to? 726 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: I think the the other one that I can't really 727 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: wait to drive, as well as the Key EV six 728 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: Ah yeah, the GT versions. So, I mean we've driven 729 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: fast cars now from Portcha and Tesla, but I'm going 730 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: to see how the Koreans do it and what their 731 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: take on a fast ev is and I hope it's good. 732 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: I hope it's not. Ship I can tell you one 733 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: of those things is on my list. Oh so one 734 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: of them, which I haven't driven yet, is the Young 735 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: Day I twenty en and possibly I'm going to can 736 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: I put the I thirty Sedan in in that rank 737 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: as well? Let's go on, what else did I have 738 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: I was looking forward to. I was going to say 739 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: the Lotus and Mirror, but I'm going to swap that 740 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: for Yeah, I'm going to swap that for the EV 741 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: six yep, again, the GT not the GT line, the GTEP. 742 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: I love the advertising for that. It's cool, just it 743 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: is cool. That's that's very well done there. That will 744 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: be interesting, it'll be it'd be really cool to see 745 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: how they do that. I wanted to put the Ford 746 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: Bronco in there, but that's never coming to Australia thanks 747 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: to I guess the Ford Ranger or pretty much the 748 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: what's that? What's that other one? The Everest Oh, yep. 749 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: The Everest of the Fall Drive version of the or 750 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 2: the SUV version of the Ranger. 751 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: They reckon they would never sell the Ford Bronco here, 752 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: and like they they knocked off markets like the UK, 753 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: New Zealand, I can't remember, Africa, South Africa, Japan, they're 754 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: all right hand drive markets. I thought that's so quite 755 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: well here I would. 756 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: Sell very well here. But ultimately, if you look at 757 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: the numbers they're doing in the States Australia, even if 758 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: it sells incredibly well here, even if they sold as 759 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: many as they do the High Lucks or Ranger, it 760 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: still wouldn't be much compared to what they'll get in 761 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: those left hand drive markets. 762 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: If they added more to the price tag, they should 763 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: be able to do that. 764 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially, but still it means tooling up a factory 765 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: to do right hand drive, and it's just a huge 766 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 2: amount of cost for not a massive amount of volume. 767 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I did see the Lamborghini Hurricane, yes, and I 768 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: thought about that. Is it sto or starsto? Yep, I'm 769 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: going to put that on there. I don't know how 770 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: to pronounce it, but shit, it looks good. It does 771 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: look great. If you go onto Lamborghini's Instagram page, you've 772 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: got to see how they advertise their cars. It's so strange. 773 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: So have you seen this. 774 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: There's like a woman and sitting there like riding in 775 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: her journal in a field. There's a car. Let's say 776 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: it's a hurricane right near her and it's going She's 777 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: looking up and she's like, no, no, not today, not today, 778 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm not today. Please, I'm riding on my journal. Don't 779 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: do this to me. Now. 780 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: Last week we ran a competition to guess the engine 781 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 2: sound that to be. 782 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: In a bit of trouble here, but go ahead, yes, 783 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: would you like me to reveal it? 784 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: Yes, because we had what I believe is a successful entry, 785 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 2: and I will also reveal what I'm going to send 786 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 2: this person. So can you please reveal the engine sound 787 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: it was? 788 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: Here's the controverty Okay, basically it was a VK commodore. 789 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: Oh it sounded like a very broken Yes. It was 790 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: their first startup in like ten years. Oh so it 791 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: had come out of a garage covered in dust. Yes, 792 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: I never would have picked that. So what am I 793 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: sending them on my desk? I have We're going to 794 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: send you a picture of Paul. Yes, I've got a set. 795 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 2: Of driving gloves signed by Ken Block. So Chris, congratulations 796 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: on guessing that and probably cheating, but you will be 797 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 2: getting a set of driving gloves signed by ken Block himself. 798 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 1: Which Paul uses in his tesla. In his tesla, yeah, 799 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: he's driving gloves. Give me extra group. I'd like to 800 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: send the show out just with actually, you know what 801 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: you could this could be your music where you're hosting 802 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: a radio show. Welcome to midnight, Paul. Yeah, you do 803 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: your best, sort of best you do? You give me 804 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: your best radio DJ. I'll do my outro for radio DJing. Okay, 805 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: here we go. 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