Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily.
Speaker 2: Podcast, brought to you by Cata.
Speaker 3: Back in July.
Speaker 2: A little bit earlier this month, we got an email.
Speaker 2: The title was pawn Podcasts Politics. A woman called Jesco's
Speaker 2: Hiprumo love of her. I just had my first experimental
Speaker 2: experience with ASMR porn and then in brackets, imagine if
Speaker 2: that was it? Send email I love that, I love it.
Speaker 4: In college.
Speaker 2: In turn, as a listener of the potty, I think
Speaker 2: it would be interesting to hear an interview with ASMR Daddy,
Speaker 2: who happens to be Australian with some strong opinions on feminism,
Speaker 2: sub safety, et cetera. This is the ASMR video I
Speaker 2: literally just listened to and I'm going to play it
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: It's fine, a little bit, that's not too salacious.
Speaker 1: Vulnerable and my mercy.
Speaker 4: That's ASMR Daddy.
Speaker 2: He basically does these thirty minute meditations almost where he's
Speaker 2: guiding you through what to do.
Speaker 4: He's the domin He's telling.
Speaker 2: You you're a dirty little bip and he wants to
Speaker 2: beep and you're beep and do it until you beep.
Speaker 2: So she goes on to say, this is his Instagram
Speaker 2: and send me his Instagram. She said, this is not
Speaker 2: a sponsored ad. I don't know this person, just Midnight Discovery. Yes,
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 3: And so this has piqued your interest? Why?
Speaker 2: Because audio porn is super interesting. I know there's a
Speaker 2: lot of women, like a lot of sites that cater
Speaker 2: to women. And weirdly enough, I was on TikTok yesterday
Speaker 2: and this woman was like, it came off my for
Speaker 2: you page obviously because I knew I was going to
Speaker 2: come in today and do this. And I was basically
Speaker 2: this woman saying that she'd started this site which was
Speaker 2: all audio porn for women because women are better at
Speaker 2: using their imaginations with sex, whereas men like to have
Speaker 2: the visual apparently. And so what I've gone and done
Speaker 2: is collected as of my daddy's name. Now we don't
Speaker 2: know his actual name, but he goes by Rick in
Speaker 2: the community, so Rick that I do too. On his
Speaker 2: Instagram you can like kind of see his face. He's
Speaker 2: got long hair and tattoos. And what is your interest
Speaker 2: with ASMR daddy?
Speaker 3: Is this?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: Are you interested in ASMR porn? Are you intrigued? Are
Speaker 5: you curious? What do you want to find out from him?
Speaker 5: Because I feel like you've got your phone up.
Speaker 4: A little call to pressing dial.
Speaker 2: I guess I want to know how he got into
Speaker 2: it and I want to talk to him about parasocial relationships.
Speaker 4: So, if you don't know what a parasocial relationship is, it's.
Speaker 2: When you like follow someone on Instagram, for example, you
Speaker 2: follow them so much how you think that you know them.
Speaker 4: You've experienced parasocial.
Speaker 3: Relationships little FLEXI I have, I shall have.
Speaker 4: And you've had to put boundaries up at times I have,
Speaker 4: and it's fine.
Speaker 5: It goes both ways. I think there's like a huge
Speaker 5: benefit of having a parasocial relationship because it creates this
Speaker 5: close a connection with you and people who consume you.
Speaker 5: And what often happens is this I would call a
Speaker 5: bit of a paradox. When people seek to understand you
Speaker 5: as a person, they can kind of bypass your boundaries
Speaker 5: to do so.
Speaker 3: Like they want more context so you appear more real.
Speaker 5: They want to know what you eat and when you sleep,
Speaker 5: and who you date, and what your mental illnesses are
Speaker 5: so they can view you as a full picture, not
Speaker 5: recognizing that by requesting that information they're kind of dehumanizing you.
Speaker 5: BM hype to hear you chat to him. I don't
Speaker 5: know what I would want to ask him just yet,
Speaker 5: but I'm keen to see what he's about, why he
Speaker 5: does it, and any kind of difficulties with like the
Speaker 5: career that he's created for himself. I know, I scrolled
Speaker 5: through his Instagram briefly and I saw him have to
Speaker 5: do a PSA to people to you know, not send
Speaker 5: him unsolicited nudes and to not like solicit him for.
Speaker 3: Sex or anything like.
Speaker 5: He's just here to provide a service for consumption like
Speaker 5: the videos, not him. So I thought that was fascinating.
Speaker 5: But there's a little shit chat.
Speaker 4: Hell, Hi, Rick, are you going.
Speaker 1: With yourself? Good? Good?
Speaker 3: I'm through me and flex?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 4: Can you hear her?
Speaker 1: Flex?
Speaker 3: Its so much fun?
Speaker 4: We're good, We're good, We're we're excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit nervous. We don't talk to people
Speaker 2: on the phone often or really sad.
Speaker 3: Don't you got phone anxiety?
Speaker 1: Who uses their phone for phone conversations anymore? Really?
Speaker 3: Literally? Not me, not us?
Speaker 2: So Rick, we know that Rick is your ASMR daddy name?
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 1: Correct? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Well could you start by telling me how you got
Speaker 2: into being as Mr Daddy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, look it really began the early days of lockdown.
Speaker 1: So it was probably like like a couple of months
Speaker 1: into that first lockdown a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 1: I was having a Zoom call with a friend and
Speaker 1: she and I were just discussing like how bad modern
Speaker 1: porn was, right, because this was kind of like the
Speaker 1: this is the beginning of everyone's like lockdown sexual frustration.
Speaker 1: I think she was constantly just talking about like how
Speaker 1: terrible you know, the mainstream pormos it was very you know,
Speaker 1: from the sis head male gaze, and her big big
Speaker 1: issue with it was always like, oh my god, by
Speaker 1: the men so quiet. And obviously, you know we we've
Speaker 1: been partners in the past, and she knew that I
Speaker 1: had a talent for talking dirty, and yeah, she just
Speaker 1: asked if I could send her like a couple of
Speaker 1: audios just to get her through like a lockdown sexual frustration.
Speaker 3: A resourceful queen, go out into your community and seek help.
Speaker 1: And so like I did, Like I just I recorded
Speaker 1: a couple of things and sent it through to her,
Speaker 1: and then like the next time we caught up on Zoom,
Speaker 1: she was like, look, please don't get mad. I should
Speaker 1: have asked for permission and I'm like, what did you do?
Speaker 1: And she's like, look, I sent them to the group
Speaker 1: chat and now like now myself and a couple of
Speaker 1: like girls have like requests.
Speaker 3: Not a distribution, and so that's.
Speaker 1: What really began. And look, she was really like she
Speaker 1: was kind of the inspiration. She's like, look, this is
Speaker 1: a public service. Can you just please put this out there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll find an audience. And yeah, like fast forward,
Speaker 1: Like I still remember when it first like it ticked
Speaker 1: over like ten thousand views over a pornhub and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this really doesn't have an audience. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how it's not.
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, let's us got a hand up. She's got
Speaker 4: a question.
Speaker 5: Got a question for you, Rick is answer my daddy.
Speaker 5: Your full time job at the moment? Is that your
Speaker 5: sole income stream or are you moonlighting?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, no, like it's it's definitely just something that
Speaker 1: I'm still doing on the side. Look, it got to
Speaker 1: a point, probably like twelve months in where it could
Speaker 1: have been something. But if I could have taken a
Speaker 1: turn and done it full time. But yeah, look there's
Speaker 1: a part of me that doesn't want to make it
Speaker 1: my full time job. Because I don't really I don't
Speaker 1: want to take like the joy out of it, like
Speaker 1: the you know, I don't want to make it a job.
Speaker 1: Like I think part of the reason that it's always
Speaker 1: kind of resonated is with people is that I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it for the paycheck, like and and the organic
Speaker 1: nature of it, Like I only make stuff when i'm
Speaker 1: you know, in the mood, or I feel like it,
Speaker 1: or I'm inspired. I don't want to try to adhere
Speaker 1: to like a rigid schedule, be like all right, well,
Speaker 1: I've got to get out my third audio for the fortnight,
Speaker 1: you know, because because then it's just gonna It's like
Speaker 1: if it starts becoming a job. I think, if like
Speaker 1: something you're passionate about starts becoming a job, you just
Speaker 1: you lose a little bit of that love for it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it's just something that I'm doing on
Speaker 1: the side.
Speaker 2: I like that a little side pace. How did you
Speaker 2: learn how to talk? Dirddy?
Speaker 3: This is a great question for me.
Speaker 1: I can get really deep on this because, look, I
Speaker 1: think a big part of it comes from the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, like my like growing up in suburban kind
Speaker 1: of you know, Australia. I was very much surrounded by
Speaker 1: and raised by that toxic you know, Australian masculinity, and
Speaker 1: a huge part of that is just not being able
Speaker 1: to communicate about how you feel, not being able to
Speaker 1: like communicate, you know, clearly with people about your emotions.
Speaker 1: And so to me, it really began in kind of
Speaker 1: breaking that down and learning how to actually talk about
Speaker 1: my feelings and talk about you know, my fears, like
Speaker 1: all like those deeply those deep things that I kind
Speaker 1: of you know, got into through therapy. That that's where
Speaker 1: it really where it began, when I started learning how
Speaker 1: to communicate and how like when you do that clearly
Speaker 1: and concisely with people, it just takes a lot of
Speaker 1: issues off the table. And so I started, you know,
Speaker 1: when I started bringing that into sex, like it made
Speaker 1: sex better, right, like being able to clearly kind of
Speaker 1: communicate with people your desires and find out what their
Speaker 1: desires are, and being being able to have those honest conversations.
Speaker 1: So I think that's where it began. And the dirty
Speaker 1: talk was just really an extension of that, like verbalizing
Speaker 1: fantasies and and and speaking them aloud and kind of
Speaker 1: pushing past that that shame that so many people have
Speaker 1: around sex still. So I have to give credit to
Speaker 1: just some of amazing women in my life as well,
Speaker 1: Like I had so there were some older women in
Speaker 1: my twenties who kind of really started introducing me to
Speaker 1: kink because they kind of saw my interest in it
Speaker 1: and helped me kind of, you know, get over that
Speaker 1: kind of initial hump of the unintended discussing and talking.
Speaker 5: I get it, joke free zo, Well, while we have
Speaker 5: you can we get just a dirty talking cheek go
Speaker 5: to for people who don't want to uncover and unpack
Speaker 5: their fears and wants and needs before they use the skill.
Speaker 3: So you what a fail safe.
Speaker 5: Maybe phrase or you know, formation of words that kind
Speaker 5: of does the trick more often than not.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you know? Or I think it's just a
Speaker 1: great start phase is do you like that?
Speaker 3: I was going to say that, you know, you're not.
Speaker 1: Even diving into the r raided stuff yet, but just
Speaker 1: clearly asking like is this something you're enjoying? I think
Speaker 1: is a great way to kind of kick off that
Speaker 1: as a dialogue, right, like, don't assume, don't sit there
Speaker 1: not knowing, like bring that out. I think once you
Speaker 1: start kind of you know, having that internal conversation, the
Speaker 1: stuff like the conversation you're having in your own head
Speaker 1: and having it with your partner. I think that starts
Speaker 1: cracking the door open to you know, getting you know,
Speaker 1: far more debaucherous.
Speaker 3: As ill talking about the dinner I'm about to have.
Speaker 5: I'm like hungry, and then so like say, we've done that,
Speaker 5: do you like that? But we're we're gearing up for
Speaker 5: a ninety minute session there so by fifteen minutes I
Speaker 5: have exhausted that.
Speaker 3: Do you like that? What's next?
Speaker 1: I think that's when you need to kind of like
Speaker 1: start bringing just a couple couple of like dirtier terms, right,
Speaker 1: need to be like swinging from the shandily is with
Speaker 1: Akim mask on straight away, right, Like.
Speaker 2: It's so when you're actually recording it, so full disclosure.
Speaker 4: I have to be honest.
Speaker 2: I listened to it because I thought I can't come
Speaker 2: in here without listening to it.
Speaker 1: You have a journalistic integrity.
Speaker 3: I do such, and.
Speaker 4: I've got a lot of spare time.
Speaker 2: And you know, we were actually put onto you by
Speaker 2: a woman called Jess who sent me an email about you,
Speaker 2: and she said it was one of her first experiences
Speaker 2: with audio porn and that she had a great time.
Speaker 2: And when I was listening to it, I was just
Speaker 2: thinking to myself at times, like what are you doing
Speaker 2: yourself when you're making this? Are you sitting in a
Speaker 2: room Like obviously the microphone and stuff, the quality's got
Speaker 2: to be good, so how do you set that up?
Speaker 4: And what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like ninety percent of the time, I am actually like
Speaker 1: indulging in the actual fantasy myself as well, And I
Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason that it appeals to people.
Speaker 1: It's because, like I mean, look, so much of porn
Speaker 1: is performative, right, and I think a lot of us
Speaker 1: can see through that now, Like so I never want
Speaker 1: what I'm actually creating to be performative. So that's why,
Speaker 1: like I don't think I could do it as a job,
Speaker 1: right because like I can't. I can't just like get
Speaker 1: up and be like, oh, I've got to do an
Speaker 1: audio today and just like belt it out, Like I
Speaker 1: have to be in the mood, I have to be inspired,
Speaker 1: so and I always want to be honest to that, Like, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I try to not be performative at all. There's some
Speaker 1: out there that I definitely there be more organized and
Speaker 1: have to be a bit more structured about like I
Speaker 1: did a Choose your Own Adventure one which was like
Speaker 1: like like four or five hours of recording. Like I
Speaker 1: have a like a lapel mic, so I'll just like
Speaker 1: you know, attached to lapel mic to my phone and
Speaker 1: I can kind of go anywhere.
Speaker 4: So fun cool. Okay, Well, thanks for chatting to us
Speaker 4: as my daddy. This was so good.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've learned a lot. And maybe we
Speaker 2: will try some dirty talk Flex.
Speaker 1: That sounds fantastic. Look and in honor of both of you,
Speaker 1: I will I'm going to be releasing a crock themed
Speaker 1: audio in the next in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: Stay stay tuned, stay tuned for that.
Speaker 3: Of course, that's funny behavior.
Speaker 1: How can I talk to Flex and and and not
Speaker 1: indulge your crop Spanish?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, amazing. And you got to say go
Speaker 4: through me, go through me.
Speaker 3: Don't worry.
Speaker 4: You don't have to do that, dude, We can go lab.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Rick.
Speaker 4: We will see you. I guess we'll hear you soon.
Speaker 1: Well, indeed, thank you, Flakes. Thanks you for you've been
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