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Speaker 1: Joining me on the line right now is the Member

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Speaker 1: for Lynciari, the Labor Member for Lyniari, Marion Scrimjaw.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Marion, Good morning, Katie.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 2: Oh, not too bad?

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Speaker 1: Marian? The scenes out of all right is that you

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Speaker 1: don't have to go back in.

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Speaker 2: No, you're all good yet, Marian.

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Speaker 1: Have you spoken to the Prime Minister this morning about

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Speaker 1: the scenes out of Alice.

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Speaker 3: Look, there's a lot of discussion happening down here at

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Speaker 3: the moment, Katie, but also with the Northern Territory government.

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Speaker 3: So I've had a number of you know, I've had

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Speaker 3: a quite a long discussion with the Chief Minister and

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Speaker 3: I'm going to meet with the Attorney General because I'm

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Speaker 3: going to see if he can also have a discussion

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Speaker 3: what do we need to do and what work does

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Speaker 3: the federal government need to do. So sending in anyone

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Speaker 3: from the federal government will require, you know, police plus

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Speaker 3: an organ territory government to agree to that. So the

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Speaker 3: Attorney General is going to we'll have a discussion and

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Speaker 1: Marian, do you think there needs to be Look, Katie,

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Speaker 1: do you think there needs to be extra police coming in,

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Speaker 1: either federal police or the army, or police from another jurisdiction.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Chief Minister said.

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Speaker 3: We've got to do something, Katie. Well, you know the footage,

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Speaker 3: and all of us have seen the footage. But I've

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Speaker 3: Because the violence isn't just you know, breaking windows and

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Speaker 3: And I think anyone saying that it's paidback and that

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Speaker 3: that's okay, No, it's not. It is. It is violent,

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Speaker 3: and it's and people. It's criminal behavior and something needs

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Speaker 1: So federal police, Marion, I mean, the ads what needs

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Speaker 3: I can't I can't commit to that, Katie. But look,

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Speaker 3: I will have a discussion with Mark Drefus, who's the

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Speaker 3: I think it does need extra resources. I think that

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Speaker 3: of some of the intelligence that needs to happen, particularly

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Speaker 3: So when we're talking about these young people and what's

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Speaker 3: It's not alcohol. I think there are there is something

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Speaker 3: Everyone should be working towards making Alice Springs safe, and

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Speaker 3: we need to get some accountability across the board. But

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Speaker 3: I think in the first instance, Katie, we've got to

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Speaker 3: make LUs safe. People are feeling unsafe, and when you

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Speaker 3: You know, we don't feel safe in this town. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about people like me who have only

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Speaker 3: This is long term residents, people who have invested in

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Speaker 3: Enough's enough, and you know, I will give Eva whatever

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Speaker 1: Mean, she'd said to us on the show though just

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Speaker 2: So are you going to circumvent her if required?

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm going to have a I'm going to have

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Speaker 3: And I think you know, it's not the problems not

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Speaker 3: it's another intervention. I listened to Matt Patterson this morning,

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Speaker 3: as he said, anti labor and the opposition. Everyone needs

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Speaker 3: to stop getting, you know, trying to make politics out

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Speaker 3: You know, we saw the cross isolence in Kasrum. We

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Speaker 1: You know, well Marion, it is absolute bullshit what we

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Speaker 2: I'll be very blunt about it.

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Speaker 1: Our poor Northern Territory police are run off their feet.

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Speaker 1: We have had crime increase over the last you know,

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Speaker 2: We don't have enough, Like, we don't have enough.

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Speaker 2: We can get a bit of a reprieve and move

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I don't think anyone better than EILID. When

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Speaker 3: Springs is the tip of the iceberg, Katie, and things

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Speaker 3: need to you know, we need to take some steps.

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Speaker 3: I'm working through that with both Linda and the Prime

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Speaker 3: But as I said, I think we've got to get

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Speaker 3: You know. I watched that footage of that that that

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Speaker 1: And it is so not it's so not Okay, Marion,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your honesty.

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Speaker 3: Let you I'll keep you informed, please do yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's please let us know how things progress this up.

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Speaker 1: Oh and we might even be able to chat to

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Speaker 1: again tomorrow. Marion Scrimjaw, thank you, thanks for your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you bye now