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Speaker 1: So where you've been, Well, you know that I was.

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Speaker 2: I was on jury duty. And the first day fairly uneventful. Nothing,

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Speaker 2: nothing happened because you know, I don't know how many

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Speaker 2: people show up on the Monday morning, but the dura

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Speaker 2: numbers that they call out, you know, went up into

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Speaker 2: the six hundreds, and there were definitely definitely a couple

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Speaker 2: hundred people there. I'd say, I don't know that it

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Speaker 2: was six hundred, but there was.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot, a lot of letters go out

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Speaker 1: in the mail.

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Speaker 2: And absolutely, and that that happens every Monday. You show

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Speaker 2: up and there is a queue down the street and

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Speaker 2: around the corner to get in. I'm glad it wasn't

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Speaker 2: raining that morning. So in we go, and then what

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Speaker 2: they do is they call they call groups of about

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Speaker 2: twenty i'd say at a time, and they go off

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Speaker 2: with their jury usher type person. And then so what

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Speaker 2: happened was it wasn't until the second day that I

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Speaker 2: got called in one of those groups of twenty, and

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Speaker 2: off we went to a courtroom and you sit in

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Speaker 2: the back of the courtroom, and from that twenty it's

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Speaker 2: all very random. The one of the court ushers then

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Speaker 2: literally pulls numbers out of a box and they're the

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Speaker 2: that's the jury. So you go up and when you're

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Speaker 2: getting sworn in, that's when the defense can say challenge

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Speaker 2: if they're not keen.

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Speaker 1: Because the legal team can say, I don't they.

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Speaker 2: Get two those they get they get two opportunities to

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Speaker 2: say nah, do there's something about them that doesn't sit right.

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Speaker 2: So I was on the cusp of missing out again

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Speaker 2: from the twenty. But there was one guy who the

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Speaker 2: most disturbing.

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Speaker 3: Body you've ever seen, and he's gone up there and

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Speaker 3: I thought, I know, I just know that because he

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Speaker 3: looks like he does not want to be He would

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Speaker 3: rather be in the in the defendant's box, I think,

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Speaker 3: than on the jury.

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Speaker 2: So I knew that the lawyer was going to say challenge,

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Speaker 2: and he did and then out came my number. So

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Speaker 2: on this jury.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't have anything up your sleeve to.

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Speaker 2: They were quite happy. So there I am sworn in

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Speaker 2: and it's a rape trial. So I'm thinking heavy, very heavy, heavy.

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Speaker 2: Now you know I tend to joke most of the

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Speaker 2: time about most things. Well, this whole experience affected me

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Speaker 2: in ways I did not expect. This gets very real

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Speaker 2: when you're dealing with something like this. And also it

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Speaker 2: gets very real when you have to make a decision

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Speaker 2: that sends a person to prison and you have to

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Speaker 2: you know, there's all sorts of circumstances that can feel

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Speaker 2: extenuating that play on your mind, but you have to

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Speaker 2: make a decision based on what the charge is.

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Speaker 1: Because everyone thinks they make a pretty good armchair judge.

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Speaker 4: You're an armchair yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, until you're in

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Speaker 4: the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I'd be a person who'd be like

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Speaker 2: you hang him, drag him away right now. Well it

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Speaker 2: doesn't end up being like that. It's all very confronted. Yeah, yeah, probably.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, what was the moment. I won't go into

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Speaker 2: details about the case or anything. No one really wants

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Speaker 2: to know about that. But what was interesting was the

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Speaker 2: DNA And let's just say his DNA was everywhere. But

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Speaker 2: the DNA guy that comes in really really well spoken

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Speaker 2: guy from Pathways, you know, and we must have spent

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Speaker 2: three quarters of a day going through DNA. Now I

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Speaker 2: understand that you have to go through every single thing.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not a scientist, but I reckon after the

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Speaker 2: second page, I got it, Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 3: So age one versus h two hypothesis one versus hypothesis

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Speaker 3: too one hundred billion times likely to be hypothesis one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I get it, I can follow it. I can

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Speaker 2: read the notes.

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Speaker 1: Now, why can't they wrap the whole thing up and

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Speaker 1: fish exactly?

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like and it wasn't like c Side.

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Speaker 4: Or nothing, nothing like La Lore or twelve angry men

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Speaker 4: all the twelve or rapid these rules what the Australian

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Speaker 4: the old Australian legal drama.

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Speaker 2: In the in the jury room and the people on

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Speaker 2: the jury were great. It's amazing how quickly your bond

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Speaker 2: and it did. It did feel like we were in

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Speaker 2: a scene in the twelve. Other than the fact, as

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Speaker 2: I said, it does get very real very quickly. And

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Speaker 2: it was a very interesting experience. And I'm but I'm

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Speaker 2: happy to not have to do it again for a while.

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Speaker 2: And for most of us this was our first time

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Speaker 2: on a jury. One woman had this. This was like

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Speaker 2: her third time. And the because you have a jury

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Speaker 2: usher who looks after you. And she was telling us

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Speaker 2: that she had one person a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 2: who said to her, I was only here three months ago,

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Speaker 2: and she said to her, tell the judge. He'll he'll,

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Speaker 2: you know, he'll let you go. That's that's too soon,

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Speaker 2: but it's so because it is such a random sort

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Speaker 2: of selection, anything is possible.

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Speaker 1: So that was that was my That's a life changing experience, really,

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Speaker 1: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot, and you know, I was. I

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Speaker 2: was absolutely exhausted at the end of it. It's taken

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Speaker 2: a couple of days to decompress mentally. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 2: So it's good to be back in there.

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Speaker 1: Lisa had a week of holiday and a week of

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Speaker 1: not such Yeah,