Speaker 1: Ah, that's better.
Speaker 2: I don't know what was in that ice coffee, but
Speaker 2: I'm off my face.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't really feel the effects of caffeine like
Speaker 1: you do. I drink it for comfort. I could have
Speaker 1: a coffee and go to sleep.
Speaker 2: Who are you?
Speaker 1: I am an enigma? My friend always been like that.
Speaker 2: What's a red bull do to you?
Speaker 1: Nothing? I do have high blood pressure.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to two doting dads.
Speaker 1: I am Maddie Jay and I'm Ash.
Speaker 2: This is a podcast all about parenting.
Speaker 1: It's the good, the bad, and the relatable.
Speaker 2: And as always, for legal reasons, we have to say this.
Speaker 2: If you've come for any kind of advice, stop right now,
Speaker 2: because none will be given whatsoever.
Speaker 1: None, zilch at all. We think.
Speaker 2: I think if people do listen to us, I wonder
Speaker 2: if there is anyone else there who's going, oh, I
Speaker 2: really need a hand with my sleep routine.
Speaker 1: I'd be like the worst parent ever.
Speaker 3: They're like, guys, I keep doing what you're telling me.
Speaker 3: That's not working.
Speaker 2: Can I just say, though, I know you talk about
Speaker 2: your kids sometimes, like you know you're a bit frustrated
Speaker 2: at times with your kids. It can sometimes you can
Speaker 2: take that tone. Can I just say it was so
Speaker 2: lovely to see you yesterday with Macy, Like you're just
Speaker 2: a big soft.
Speaker 1: Big softy with Macy pretty hard on Oscar.
Speaker 2: You were just it was lovely to see.
Speaker 1: She's great and she just's cheeky little ship.
Speaker 2: But I'm to be good she is.
Speaker 3: I am a good dad. I have to justify it.
Speaker 3: But she's cheeky.
Speaker 1: She's at the age where she's so she's like just
Speaker 1: about to turn two. Like she's a sweetheart. She's got
Speaker 1: me wrapped around her finger. But she's a cheeky little
Speaker 1: ship because she'll do something, look back and smile like
Speaker 1: she knows she's done the wrong thing. And I'll be like,
Speaker 1: don't do that, and she knows that I can't get angry.
Speaker 1: She knows.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the second child or is that because.
Speaker 1: It's the girl thing?
Speaker 2: I think I remember with Marley. I used to be
Speaker 2: able to say, they put that down, ready one as.
Speaker 1: You go, okay, what age?
Speaker 2: See my memory plays tricks on me. I think, like
Speaker 2: Marley's four and a half, Lola's two and a half.
Speaker 2: I swear when Marley was Lola's age, I could say
Speaker 2: stop and she would stop what she's doing so don't
Speaker 2: pick that up and she'd listen, whereas Lola looks at
Speaker 2: me and she doesn't say it, but I know she's
Speaker 2: thinking it, going fuck you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, I don't know who the fuck are
Speaker 1: you think you're talking to. I'm in charge here. I
Speaker 1: think like it might be second kid, because I know
Speaker 1: Oscar at that age was way more vocal. Macy's like
Speaker 1: a mute you know, she'll talk to me or when
Speaker 1: it's just me and her, like she's really like shatty,
Speaker 1: why But she's so quiet, and Oscar kind of like Marley.
Speaker 1: The vocab is really good, so good so that I
Speaker 1: remember a while ago Oscar was using April's phone and
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, the pink code? Is this all right?
Speaker 1: It's just four numbers? And then for months afterwards, he
Speaker 1: was just walking around everywhere saying the pin code, and
Speaker 1: I was like to April, Oscar knows the pink code
Speaker 1: to your phone, which happens to be the pink code
Speaker 1: for a lot of other things.
Speaker 2: Keep that ship under that.
Speaker 1: And he's just walking around and it's kind of like
Speaker 1: rhymes and he's like, but there's no way makes you
Speaker 1: be able to do.
Speaker 2: That I'm trying to think about the pink code.
Speaker 1: Is I told you before? I remember and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I to tell you that there's a
Speaker 1: story about that. Yeah, So he even now he'll just
Speaker 1: be like and like rattle off the pin code, just
Speaker 1: in public, so someone gets told of April's phone, just
Speaker 1: ask for the picure.
Speaker 2: Hey, before we get into this episode, I saw something
Speaker 2: Ash on social media that made me think of you.
Speaker 1: No, wasn't me. It makes me think of Ash. It's
Speaker 1: just a picture of Ash.
Speaker 2: TikTok knows. It knows that we we know each other.
Speaker 2: It knows, and it knows that I will watch your
Speaker 2: videos from start to finish, Like the algorithm is designed perfectly.
Speaker 1: You've got to watch it start to finish and then
Speaker 1: the start again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's like it's like, oh I like this, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't want to see the start again, Ash. Whenever
Speaker 2: your video pops up, I will always honor a full view, always,
Speaker 2: regardless of what the content.
Speaker 1: I skip straight over your.
Speaker 2: Because you only watch videos that are like seven seconds long.
Speaker 1: That's as long as I've got up, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whereas I I like to get comfy when i'm
Speaker 2: in of alltex. Yeah, video pops up and I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder how I would go with Ash.
Speaker 2: It was based on how well do you know your boyfriend?
Speaker 2: And like, obviously obviously we're not dating.
Speaker 1: No, but I see you more than Laura does.
Speaker 2: We haven't fucked. No, it may happen. Christmas party is.
Speaker 3: Going to be a very quiet Christmas right, just the
Speaker 3: two of me.
Speaker 1: They always say if people get rowdy, we don't have
Speaker 1: a HR department either, so I'm HR. Anything goes, it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna beet creepy. So so you don't want a pose.
Speaker 1: You have the nozzle, boats and hose.
Speaker 2: There's different settings. There's a few. There's like like the misty.
Speaker 1: Hang a minute, we're talking nineties hose. Are we're talking
Speaker 1: like modern day hose. Nineties hose. It was just twisted
Speaker 1: and then it turns off or you got your twisted
Speaker 1: the other way, and it's like, yeah, yeah, this.
Speaker 2: Is this is modern day home Click seven settings. This
Speaker 2: is like a grade brand new, top tier dad stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm going to show you what the settings are and
Speaker 2: we'll put this video on social media so people can
Speaker 2: try and guess. I think I know what I think
Speaker 2: I know I know. I think I know what setting
Speaker 2: you'll be.
Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't watched through.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's laughing at what you are
Speaker 2: watching the.
Speaker 3: I just knew what I was straight away.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay in the wall let me do.
Speaker 2: You want to go get watched the second time? Don't
Speaker 2: rush into it? Yeah, do you reckon? I'll get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon, You'll get it easy.
Speaker 2: No, Like I wonder you're the Soca are you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like as soon as I saw that,
Speaker 3: I was like, yep, that's me.
Speaker 1: So are you going to do you You've already watched
Speaker 1: the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got my favorite.
Speaker 1: You're the fucking jet.
Speaker 2: When I watch, I think of how you would ejaculate.
Speaker 1: Totally. That's me.
Speaker 2: Socha thoughts and prayers with April.
Speaker 1: I remember one time you told me that before. I
Speaker 1: guess just one time that you did tell me that.
Speaker 1: One time you're pissing and your jap so I was
Speaker 1: stuck together and the other one yet it pissed out.
Speaker 1: So are you that one?
Speaker 2: Which one's that one?
Speaker 3: That one?
Speaker 2: Who the hell is center? What the people wondering center is?
Speaker 2: Number six? No? I'm not a center who no one
Speaker 2: uses center?
Speaker 1: Are you the jet? You would be?
Speaker 2: No, I'm the shower show me, I'm the shower number two,
Speaker 2: number two.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know you as well though, I didn't
Speaker 1: know the story about you Jap. So I getting stuck
Speaker 1: together and you have your weed out the side of it.
Speaker 2: The jets too hard? The jets too hard. It's like
Speaker 2: with the jet, Yeah, the jet, no one wants that
Speaker 2: you never you're not really using jet? Who's using jets
Speaker 2: too aggressive?
Speaker 1: Look? I start with a soaka, and then because I'm
Speaker 1: a squirter, it turns into the old jets. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's a good game.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm glad you got mine, but I didn't
Speaker 1: get yours.
Speaker 2: It doesn't surprise me. Only one of us is truly
Speaker 2: invested in this relationship. I have a question for you
Speaker 2: as well. Have you ever been in a situation where
Speaker 2: you've had to not reprimand but like step in and
Speaker 2: take control of the situation with another toddler that's not yours?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like another.
Speaker 2: Not so much being naughty, but you know what it's like?
Speaker 2: Sharing is is really hard with toddlers?
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, Like it's an awkward situation. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: got stories of reprimanding kids in public, but that's different.
Speaker 1: Give me an example. So lately, no one wants to
Speaker 1: know about me reprimanding children.
Speaker 2: Lately, I've been going to the library, the Willara Library.
Speaker 1: That's great, take a bunch of noisy kids to a
Speaker 1: really quiet place.
Speaker 2: There's a great section there on the back corner where
Speaker 2: it's for kids. There's a slide. It's a huge slide
Speaker 2: in the library, only open.
Speaker 1: To the kids going on the slide.
Speaker 2: And this old ways Like, I honestly feel sorry for
Speaker 2: anyone who's gone in there to work and then the
Speaker 2: kids are just running up.
Speaker 1: But that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It's designed to be like a play area. There's a
Speaker 2: quiet area of the library, but where the kids are there's.
Speaker 1: Like the opposite of that being bags.
Speaker 2: There's an interactive screen where kids can play and draw
Speaker 2: and color and it's great. Kids love it. Marley and
Speaker 2: Lola all for it.
Speaker 1: So there's the quiet section and the kids section, Dad
Speaker 1: section where it's a pub. It's all these different sections
Speaker 1: in the library.
Speaker 2: I wish there's no drinks in the library. Come on, actually,
Speaker 2: you know, I know it's a shame, but we were
Speaker 2: there the kitchen.
Speaker 1: What will make libraries better? Go on Beers Library, just
Speaker 1: saying I just thought i'd had that in there because
Speaker 1: there should be.
Speaker 2: Will Aarra library. If you're listening, just an idea, be
Speaker 2: it just esci.
Speaker 1: It's a donation and all the money goes to books.
Speaker 2: Imagine taking kids to the library and you're there in
Speaker 2: the corner mashed.
Speaker 1: Do you guys want to be Do you guys want
Speaker 1: to how many books you got there?
Speaker 3: Hold your dad up?
Speaker 2: We were waiting patiently to have a crack at the
Speaker 2: interactive screen. There were two toddlers.
Speaker 1: Is that like a touch screen?
Speaker 2: Touch screen? Yeah, like a big plasma and you can
Speaker 2: then we don't have them over there in the swamp.
Speaker 2: What's your library?
Speaker 1: Just like a bunch of books, black and white, TV,
Speaker 1: black and white books, no colored covers over there?
Speaker 3: Have you seen the library.
Speaker 1: On Shawshank Redemption, That's what our library look like.
Speaker 2: Well, don't mean to rub it in, you will, but anyway,
Speaker 2: the hoverboards were broken at the very good So the
Speaker 2: kids are waiting patiently for the interactive screen. I was
Speaker 2: kind of you know, I was watching them. I tried
Speaker 2: to let the kids figure it out and after a while,
Speaker 2: like after five minutes, kids were still there. Parents also
Speaker 2: know where to be seen. So I go over and
Speaker 2: I speak to the two kids, the toddlers, who they're
Speaker 2: not my kids. I say, hey, look, you've had a
Speaker 2: really long ago.
Speaker 1: With you, like fun time uncle Maddie.
Speaker 3: Listeners came in.
Speaker 2: I grabbed it by the shirt. You've had enough, I said,
Speaker 2: I said, look, do you think you could have just
Speaker 2: one more minute and then Marley and Lola can have
Speaker 2: a quick turn. She looked at me and was like nah, nah,
Speaker 2: just She's like I'm coloring in And I was like,
Speaker 2: I know you are. You've had a really long turn.
Speaker 2: And also keeping in mind she was there for a
Speaker 2: while before Marley and Laula were waiting in line, she
Speaker 2: was just like flat out, like Noah. She was telling
Speaker 2: me to fuck.
Speaker 1: Off pretty much in the total way yeah.
Speaker 2: As a four year old. Effectively, she was giving me
Speaker 2: the finger and telling me to beat it o.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Literally, I was like, I get it, I get it, Okay,
Speaker 2: So then I was like trying and I also didn't
Speaker 2: raise my voice, but I was trying to say it
Speaker 2: a bit louder to hope that the mum or dad
Speaker 2: would listen and be like, oh, it's okay. But I
Speaker 2: was saying, listen, come on, you've had a big turn.
Speaker 1: Share it with the other kids, you little shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and nothing, nothing, And Marley and Laula were
Speaker 2: looking at me like dad fucking sorted out?
Speaker 1: Dad a little bitch? So what do you do?
Speaker 3: What do I do?
Speaker 2: Here? What do I do? And I was like, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't touch this kid before you tell me what
Speaker 1: you did? Would you like to know what I would do?
Speaker 1: Absolutely after you tell me what were you?
Speaker 2: Is this Ash? She's got the eski with the beers
Speaker 2: in the library.
Speaker 1: This is just what Ash would do. Not necessarily, it's
Speaker 1: the right thing. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: No, tell me, please, I'd love to bear thoughts where.
Speaker 1: My mind goes. This is where my mind goes. You've
Speaker 1: got two kids, parents are nowhere to be seen. It's
Speaker 1: the perfect opportunity for a little bit, he said, She said,
Speaker 1: with the two kids, because you could easily go listen here,
Speaker 1: you little shit. Yes, get off, it's someone else's fucking turn. Okay,
Speaker 1: let them take off, go on to their moms crying,
Speaker 1: and then the mom comes back.
Speaker 2: Can we just go You don't have to say if.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean, just be like, look,
Speaker 1: you've had enough, it's someone else's turn. Beat it very aggressive, okay,
Speaker 1: but it's a perfect opportunity for them to go get
Speaker 1: their parents. And if their parents come and go no,
Speaker 1: I just asked them really nicely if it was okay,
Speaker 1: if my daughter's had a turn, and they were so
Speaker 1: good about it they gave it up.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, gaslight, That's what I would have done,
Speaker 1: because like, honestly, it's not going to be a life
Speaker 1: teaching or life learning moment. It's very much like you've
Speaker 1: had your turn. I've been nice about it. You're going
Speaker 1: to tell me no, I'm gonna say, hey, share it
Speaker 1: or get lost.
Speaker 2: Don't have that in me.
Speaker 1: And if they go, oh, uncle Mandy told me to
Speaker 1: get lost, no, I said one more minute. And you
Speaker 1: did the right thing and you shared it with the
Speaker 1: other kids and be like such a good little boy
Speaker 1: or good little girl.
Speaker 3: Just manipulation.
Speaker 2: I can see why you would take that route. I
Speaker 2: just I don't know. I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 2: they would have to be naughty for me to justify
Speaker 2: like obviously not being.
Speaker 1: A maybe I was a bit aggressive. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: easily sternly be like share it or go away.
Speaker 2: I was at the crossroads where I was like, where
Speaker 2: do I take this? Yeah, you've not been faced with
Speaker 2: this situation before. I don't know what to do. Marley
Speaker 2: and Lola were like, my dad's now being piss week
Speaker 2: and I was like, I I.
Speaker 1: Just I was snatched it. You turned it off.
Speaker 2: I said, I think you've had enough time on the screen.
Speaker 2: Come on and thankfully, well I didn't know at first.
Speaker 2: The mum came running in and I was like, what's
Speaker 2: the house and Mum'm going to take this because sometimes
Speaker 2: the parents don't like it when their kid.
Speaker 1: Is my kid would never do that.
Speaker 3: Well he fucking did, mate.
Speaker 2: Well that's why I was like, am I going to
Speaker 2: have an argument with the mum? Here? Is this all
Speaker 2: going to kick off?
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: All over. You know, it's kicked off before with me
Speaker 2: in the park with others and the last thing I
Speaker 2: want to do, actually last thing.
Speaker 1: I get all the shit like I'm the aggressive one
Speaker 1: when you're the one kicking off with people in the park.
Speaker 2: I'm nothing but an angel, except I don't want to
Speaker 2: end up having a brawl in the library. That's not
Speaker 2: why I came.
Speaker 1: It would any news is good news, Matthew.
Speaker 2: And luckily the mom was like, I am so sorry.
Speaker 1: He gets it from his dad, but it's so hard. Look,
Speaker 1: I talked to Big Talk, honestly, I do.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see you in public.
Speaker 1: You've heard of stories that I've told you before where
Speaker 1: I have reprimanded kids before. I'm not proud of it, but.
Speaker 2: I feel like you've done that when a kid has
Speaker 2: actually been really naughty, like misbehaving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like not.
Speaker 2: Sharing is on the scale of like being really naughty.
Speaker 1: So maybe I was a bit harsh. Okay, those aren't
Speaker 1: going to come at me about what I said earlier
Speaker 1: about that's terrible.
Speaker 3: That's fine as well.
Speaker 1: But I was probably harsh that first glance. So yeah, look,
Speaker 1: I think you did the right thing. You just you
Speaker 1: didn't escalate.
Speaker 3: Like your approach, my approach a.
Speaker 1: Little bit more aggressive, where I would have been, Like,
Speaker 1: what I really would have said is we want to
Speaker 1: play with kids who share.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of where I was getting at. But
Speaker 1: I like my aggressive approach is if that were being
Speaker 1: more if she was like, no, it's mine, like being
Speaker 1: a little shit. But she's like, no, I'm having a turn. Well,
Speaker 1: we all want to play with kids who share.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you record?
Speaker 1: I but your mummy and daddy want you to share too,
Speaker 1: manipulate them that. Yay, Okay, you're gonna remember matt in
Speaker 1: nearly forty. Therefore I'm thirty six. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: but therefore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're weak and pathetic. I'm the dominic spirit, the
Speaker 2: dominant one here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll show us.
Speaker 3: That's what Lola and Marley were like.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm banned from the library.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marley and Loa that a little bit. I was
Speaker 1: just telling you earlier on in this episode about Oscar
Speaker 1: and the pin coat. Anyway, so I overheard the other
Speaker 1: day in April trying to explain to Oscar emergency calls
Speaker 1: triple zero, that sort of situation. Yeah, right, So on
Speaker 1: the iPhone, obviously, if you hold two buttons down, it
Speaker 1: gives it the option to call the emergency immediately. So
Speaker 1: she was kind of like, if there's trouble, you know,
Speaker 1: if there's trouble, or if mummy and daddy in trouble,
Speaker 1: or there's a fire or like there's a urgency, then
Speaker 1: this is what you would do, and you know, he
Speaker 1: was getting it just great if there's a fire or
Speaker 1: an emergency, a medical emergency, someone's really injured. And was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so do you understand. He's like, yeah, so if Macey
Speaker 1: takes one of my toys and I was like, oh no, no, god,
Speaker 1: oh no, and April was like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: That's it's a good sign that he's understanding.
Speaker 3: Kind of yeah. Yeah, And he was like, who would
Speaker 3: you call?
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, doctors. He was like, what is
Speaker 1: like doctors not to answer that phone?
Speaker 3: It's like why.
Speaker 1: He just couldn't explain why doctors won't enswer the phone.
Speaker 1: But then he was like, so if I need a
Speaker 1: band aid, I was like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: going to end. So thankfully he can't push the two
Speaker 1: buttons together at the same time because he's only four
Speaker 1: and his brain doesn't work that way. He's like, but
Speaker 1: if he could, he would have called emergency like ten times,
Speaker 1: which heasy to ask you the question have you ever explained?
Speaker 1: And like what maybe, what's the appropriate age? I think
Speaker 1: April jumped the aren't a bit.
Speaker 2: I think it's a little it's a little bit early.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit early, although like I don't know
Speaker 2: how we spoke about it, but the idea of.
Speaker 1: Death, oh my god.
Speaker 2: So we haven't really had that conversation. I think we
Speaker 2: try and tell her, try and tell the kids, like
Speaker 2: where they live, the address, the street address. They kind
Speaker 2: of get.
Speaker 1: I don't want an oscar situation where he memorizes that
Speaker 1: he's just walking around the streets.
Speaker 2: We have sometimes I've like done a little test when
Speaker 2: I've been driving home from daycare to be like I
Speaker 2: wonder if Marley knows the way home and I've told
Speaker 2: her like you can like let me know I've left
Speaker 2: or right, and she we fucking ended up in Penrith.
Speaker 2: So Marley's she's not very cluede on just yet. So
Speaker 2: I think it's too soon. It's too soon to try
Speaker 2: and tell her about like emergencies and like triple zero.
Speaker 1: I thought that.
Speaker 2: I mean, even like the other day, dude, Marley got
Speaker 2: some dirt in her eye at daycare. Right, she's very articulate.
Speaker 2: We can have a conversation, but they had to call
Speaker 2: me to say, your kids got dirt in their eyes.
Speaker 3: Like, give me that phone, I'll explain to him.
Speaker 2: So the staff member was like, hey, Marley wants to
Speaker 2: have a few words, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, like, like final words.
Speaker 3: He was such a good dad.
Speaker 2: But I was like hey Marley and she was like hey.
Speaker 2: And I was like, did you get something in your eye?
Speaker 2: And She's like yeah. I was like, come on, Like
Speaker 2: kids on the phone, they just lose the ability to
Speaker 2: have any kind of conversation.
Speaker 1: It's because it's like it's doing two things at once.
Speaker 1: It's holding the phone up and talking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, heaven forbid if there is an emergency at
Speaker 2: home and we're relying on Marley to call and trip
Speaker 2: Z THERER.
Speaker 3: What'ts your emergency?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 1: Is there an emergency?
Speaker 2: I ate an apple?
Speaker 1: Yeah, got in my eye?
Speaker 2: Where all screwed? Where screwed?
Speaker 1: It is too early? I thought that too, And I
Speaker 1: had a chuckle because I was in the other room
Speaker 1: and she was explaining it to him, and I'm like
Speaker 1: as soon as she started explaining it, I was like,
Speaker 1: here we go.
Speaker 2: This would be good.
Speaker 1: This good.
Speaker 2: I guess it. It's the foundation of Macy.
Speaker 1: Steals, one of my toys. Do I call the police?
Speaker 2: Police knocking on your door? I know? So I did
Speaker 2: the conversation that I had with Marley which I now,
Speaker 2: in hindsight no, was a really stupid one to have
Speaker 2: was And this is off the back of rip. My
Speaker 2: brother's dog passed away, very sad and we had some
Speaker 2: photos and some videos of Rex, who was now no
Speaker 2: longer with us, my brother's dog, and we were a
Speaker 2: bit upset, and Marley was trying to understand, like why
Speaker 2: you're upset, my well, because the dog has passed away.
Speaker 2: And I said to Marley, like, everyone gets old and
Speaker 2: people will die. They're no longer with us.
Speaker 1: I know, I know why, you know, Like, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you're not wrong.
Speaker 2: With a look on her face, I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: even daddy's going to die.
Speaker 1: Oh no. I used to always think when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, what are they going to do with all
Speaker 1: my stuff? And I remember I had a PlayStation one
Speaker 1: at the time, and I was like, who's going to
Speaker 1: get Who's.
Speaker 3: Going to get my PlayStation?
Speaker 1: What are they going to do with it? I don't know,
Speaker 1: is there she'll forget in like she won't. Yeah. Osca
Speaker 1: hasn't said anything about the emergency course since.
Speaker 3: I've definitely seen him try the.
Speaker 1: Two button thing on the iPhone, because you do that
Speaker 1: for long enough ago when what is it when you call?
Speaker 1: It doesn't have the quarter.
Speaker 2: It's not the triple zero. It's the one one too
Speaker 2: emergency call, isn't it? Where does that go?
Speaker 1: Is one one too?
Speaker 2: That's like, that's the emergency call that's thirty.
Speaker 3: Three years old and I'm just learning what one one too?
Speaker 2: Do you not know? April is telling emergency?
Speaker 3: Police, emergency, laundry emergency.
Speaker 2: April is telling you guys about the emergency, and you
Speaker 2: and Oscar sitting there be like, oh wow, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was secretly out of the room going oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm learning that we desided repair or repair.
Speaker 2: We don't know what we do. We don't know what
Speaker 2: we're doing.
Speaker 1: Because Matthew, it is time for Budgie Smuggler's Most Ordinary
Speaker 1: Parent it is.
Speaker 2: I've got a great submission here, Ash, which I don't
Speaker 2: think it's going to be the winner. So to Caitlin
Speaker 2: who submitted this one, I'm sorry it was good not
Speaker 2: good enough.
Speaker 1: Pipped at the Pope. We'll see. I don't know, could
Speaker 1: you be persuaded?
Speaker 2: You haven't told me what yours is, but you've got
Speaker 2: a very big glint in your eye. I feel like
Speaker 2: you've got a good one. So no pressure. I haven't
Speaker 2: heard it. So my one is from Caitlyn. Shout out
Speaker 2: to Kaitlyn. My husband has taught up two and a
Speaker 2: half year old to get him a beer from the
Speaker 2: garage fridge.
Speaker 1: That's quality.
Speaker 2: Should I say she isn't quite up to pouring mama
Speaker 2: a glass of wine? Maybe next year.
Speaker 3: That of look honestly not bad.
Speaker 2: Howard's macy two. Imagine if she in six months time,
Speaker 2: do you think she would be enough to get you
Speaker 2: a beer from the fritze?
Speaker 1: She did do this, Okay. When we were in Bali,
Speaker 1: I had a beer side of pool was a can.
Speaker 1: She picked it up, walked it was a little shallow pool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for those of you not watching, it's like deep deep. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's tiny. Yeah, grabs it, walks it over to me,
Speaker 1: gives it to me. I had a sip and I
Speaker 1: was like being a cheeky bugger, gave it back, She
Speaker 1: walked it back. Ordinary parents.
Speaker 2: Very good.
Speaker 1: That is good. So I do like, I don't mind that.
Speaker 2: I think that's impressive.
Speaker 1: It's impressive.
Speaker 2: Impressive also like my kids impressive parenting. If you ask me,
Speaker 2: my kids they like no chance, even if it's taking
Speaker 2: a bowl of cereal that has like a droplet of
Speaker 2: milk and the wheatbits sink like that. Shit's going everywhere.
Speaker 1: I've caught Masie. She'll actually put like a leftover host
Speaker 1: in the bin like there, right, it's one of those.
Speaker 2: She can't talk, but she's very domesticated.
Speaker 1: But so it was yesterday she had a bowl and
Speaker 1: an old bowl of cereal, but the cereal like dried up,
Speaker 1: you know, does that? She walked over to the bin
Speaker 1: and like tipped it out into the bin. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's good. And then she just took a look at
Speaker 1: me and just put the bowl over the bin and
Speaker 1: went and dropped the ball straight in the bottom of
Speaker 1: the bin.
Speaker 2: Get rid of it.
Speaker 3: It's one of the good balls.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think I have this week's winner, but look,
Speaker 1: hit me, you be the judge. So this ordinary parent
Speaker 1: message comes from someone by the name of Flick. Don't
Speaker 1: know what their real name is, might be their nickname
Speaker 1: like for Felicity, or maybe her name's Flick. My three
Speaker 1: year old has a library at Kinder. Every Thursday, he
Speaker 1: always packs his book inside the library bag himself to return.
Speaker 1: I don't even check because he always does it later
Speaker 1: that day. I received a call from child care. I
Speaker 1: was thinking, which one has fallen over or has a temperature? Nope,
Speaker 1: it was the kinder teacher saying that he had packed
Speaker 1: a porn magazine in his library bag and presented it
Speaker 1: to the cla and even said this one's mummy who
Speaker 1: still has porn bags and flicks Like, for the record,
Speaker 1: it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Me, damn.
Speaker 2: Going, how is that playboy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how the kid explained why the pages
Speaker 1: are stuck together so that I believe is our winner
Speaker 1: this week. That's great.
Speaker 2: That's what you get for using magazine.
Speaker 1: Still, that's what you get for trusting your kid with anything,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even have to check. He's such a
Speaker 1: good boy.
Speaker 3: He's at school, deal and porn out to the other three.
Speaker 2: He wants a photo.
Speaker 1: He wants a picture of my mummy's tits.
Speaker 3: Anyway, If you want a chance to win.
Speaker 1: Two hundred dollars worth of Budgy Smuggler gear right leading
Speaker 1: into summer, perfect time, please send us your ordinary parents
Speaker 1: stories or ordinary family member ordinary anything really ordinary pet
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Speaker 1: d D at autlook dot com, which is t widd
Speaker 1: at Outlook dot com dot a.
Speaker 2: You what a big thanks to Budgy.
Speaker 1: Fore, thanks for Budge for sponsoring this segment. And we'll
Speaker 1: be doing three more this month, so there's three more
Speaker 1: chances just this month to win.
Speaker 2: Can I ask ash?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: You have all going to ask anyway, because I'm not
Speaker 2: little bitch. Regardless of what Marley and Lalla think of me.
Speaker 1: I know they text me all the times. Dad's look, bitch.
Speaker 2: Can I just ask no? It's a fucking podcast, man, No.
Speaker 1: My questions, Suddy?
Speaker 2: Can I say something? Absolutely not?
Speaker 1: No, my questions?
Speaker 2: Can you stop fucking coughing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing it outside. I'm trying to try my.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't you be this aggressive with the four year
Speaker 1: old in the library.
Speaker 2: Because I was scared? Okay, yeah, she was looking at me.
Speaker 1: It's like in step Brothers and they can't walk past
Speaker 1: that particular park and there's kids and then.
Speaker 3: What are you looking at?
Speaker 1: Essay that little girl? Great, you're gonna ask me a question.
Speaker 2: What it's gonna be an interesting episode?
Speaker 1: You were gonna ask me a question? Yeah, okay, you
Speaker 1: shut it down, all right? So Matthew listener questions.
Speaker 2: Or so people can ask questions now. And I'm not allowed.
Speaker 2: Is that how it works? Okay, okay, I hate when
Speaker 2: I fight with you. This one is from Sarah and
Speaker 2: she says, how can you tell if your kid is
Speaker 2: ready for school?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Why she's asking us that question?
Speaker 1: Not sure, I'll tell you why because she's probably thinking
Speaker 1: about sending a kid to school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't come to ask. Well, you're telling kids
Speaker 2: to funk off.
Speaker 1: That's me. Look, both of us have kids the same age.
Speaker 2: Is Oscar going to school or kindy next year?
Speaker 1: No? No, he'll go to preschool again next year because.
Speaker 2: He's like, your preschool is like a daycare though?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Because June middle of the year, same as Marley,
Speaker 1: the only week apart. It's a tricky one because like,
Speaker 1: do you want them to be a little fish in
Speaker 1: a big pond or a big fish in a little pond.
Speaker 1: You don't want to send them and them not be
Speaker 1: ready and get caught behind, and that could be detrimental
Speaker 1: to their developed That's what I've.
Speaker 2: Ship anyway, dr ash, so you don't send them.
Speaker 1: To that's my one drinking voice seems like a glass
Speaker 1: of wine in my hand. What do you think we
Speaker 1: should send these kids?
Speaker 3: Off the wall? Well, I say, that's a young, strapping,
Speaker 3: young boy. Let's put him in the draft.
Speaker 2: So long story shot, Oscar's not going next year.
Speaker 1: Well, Oscar's not going next year because he's a little
Speaker 1: bit slow. He's he's only a little boy man.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't be ready.
Speaker 1: He can't concentrate yet on his own.
Speaker 2: I think I'm the same.
Speaker 1: Well, they're a week apart.
Speaker 2: With Marley. I think she in some aspects she's advanced,
Speaker 2: like to or she's an amazing drawer sit it down
Speaker 2: with some coloring impacts.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's how he's going to win people
Speaker 1: over at school? They're going to be like because.
Speaker 3: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's all about independence, right, She's going to be like, now, Marley,
Speaker 1: why have you done?
Speaker 3: This is a job picture?
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is she's not a great sharer, and
Speaker 2: she she has big emotions still, so like if she
Speaker 2: wants to do something and she can't do it, she
Speaker 2: absolutely flips out like she has a full meant to
Speaker 2: be so, and I thought I'd rather hold back a
Speaker 2: year until she can kind of emotionally wise, she's a bit.
Speaker 1: More experience as well.
Speaker 2: But I've got a little checklist here, rash, so we
Speaker 2: could just to make sure we are doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought we were going to rally. Am I
Speaker 1: going to answer them?
Speaker 2: Will you ask them about both of our children? Maybe
Speaker 2: at the end of the little checklist, we'll go ship.
Speaker 1: We're going to send all the nearest public school, because
Speaker 1: that's all I going forward.
Speaker 2: So apparently this is from a website, not from.
Speaker 1: US, just some website.
Speaker 2: It's some website.
Speaker 1: It's what are the cred entries on this website?
Speaker 2: It's a daycare website.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, must be accurate, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It must be accurate. Number One, they can communicate, well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Oscar's pretty good.
Speaker 1: He to fine communicate.
Speaker 2: It says here, what do they need to be able
Speaker 2: to say or recite? So it's more so about like
Speaker 2: following instructions.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oscar's a dim weit so no, look, yeah he
Speaker 1: can follow instructions, but he needs to be really really.
Speaker 1: He is at the point where he's like, if I
Speaker 1: go do this, and it's like very obvious why he
Speaker 1: should do that? He go, why, So.
Speaker 2: That's good man, he's questioning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. Keep questioning me.
Speaker 2: Okay. Number two, sit still, No, Marley can sit still
Speaker 2: with the iPad.
Speaker 1: Just send to them to school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, YouTube kids number three, you uses the bathroom independently. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Oscar's ship story from two episodes ago. So yes and
Speaker 2: no we fine pooh, not so much.
Speaker 1: Depends if the school wants shit all over it.
Speaker 2: Wiping is the kids.
Speaker 1: Since that story, Oscar is really getting He's getting better,
Speaker 1: But like, I wouldn't trust him in the public toilet.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's up to Marley.
Speaker 1: I thought i'd say that about myself. I wouldn't trust
Speaker 1: that going on.
Speaker 2: Public number four connects well with others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oscar's pretty good, but he's so timid sometimes he
Speaker 1: he would be the sort of kids that be like but.
Speaker 2: I think all kids surely will be nervous right going in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like he would probably all right after
Speaker 1: like a week or so.
Speaker 2: But where I saw Marley in an environment where I
Speaker 2: thought she's not quite ready. One of the kids at
Speaker 2: her daycare had a birthday party. He did tell me
Speaker 2: about that, and it was so obviously segregated. The kids
Speaker 2: are running around playing games, those who were going on
Speaker 2: to KINDI or school the next year, and those who
Speaker 2: still had one more year. And it was like light
Speaker 2: and day and Marley for a little bit was trying
Speaker 2: to keep up with the older kids, and she was
Speaker 2: always just like one step behind with playing games, and
Speaker 2: even size wise, she was just a lot smaller.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think yeah, Oscar would be the same. I
Speaker 1: think it's his age. Be fine. But if you start
Speaker 1: to put a couple other kid because there's like you
Speaker 1: one year tube and they are such they are bigger kids.
Speaker 1: Man like dude, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because a little boy I think he is, he's tying.
Speaker 2: Marley could take him. He's very tanned right now, very tan.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Number five, last one. They're good with their motor skills.
Speaker 1: He can't drive well, he probably could drive better than me.
Speaker 1: He's not going to drive himself to school.
Speaker 2: Okay. Can he throw a ball?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can he jump yeah?
Speaker 2: Can he climb?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Mate, he's ready, Send him in.
Speaker 1: Send him off to walk.
Speaker 3: I say these kids are very good off of war.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure people are listening right now, going you
Speaker 2: guys are doing the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe we are, fuck you, they're my kids. Man, I'll
Speaker 1: probably get the people being like you are severely liminiting
Speaker 1: your child's potential.
Speaker 2: But man, I would rather I would rather send Marley
Speaker 2: when she's ready and confident rather than having to be
Speaker 2: like the one trying to keep up with the other kids.
Speaker 2: And also daycare finishes the five and school finishes it three.
Speaker 3: I don't want to marry that earlier.
Speaker 2: I'm not ready for that.
Speaker 1: It's like it's the old thing where it's like every
Speaker 1: kid's going to be different. Okay, so people are going
Speaker 1: to come at us. It's like your kid might be there.
Speaker 1: Your kid might be same, exactly the same age and
Speaker 1: be there with all of those skills and be there
Speaker 1: with all of that maturity. Mine is not.
Speaker 2: And I love it when you get serious.
Speaker 1: I know I can switch it up.
Speaker 2: Gosh, it's sexy.
Speaker 1: I can switch it up big time. Just you wait,
Speaker 1: some really serious stuff coming in my monologue. I get
Speaker 1: my glass of wine and we talk about my monologue.
Speaker 1: Your question, Oh there's another one, Matthew. I don't know
Speaker 1: who this is from, but very good question for dads.
Speaker 1: Fellow dads, how do you on your fellow dad tribes
Speaker 1: as a new dad? Now, Matthew, before we get onto
Speaker 1: your answer, which I'm sure will be an amazing answer,
Speaker 1: we all know when you become a first dad, right
Speaker 1: and your new dad, and you're like I don't know
Speaker 1: what the fuck I'm doing. But I would also like
Speaker 1: to find out from other dads in the same situation
Speaker 1: what the fuck they're doing, Like, how do you do that?
Speaker 1: I'm still trying, you know what I mean? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't think I Oh no, I've not really had
Speaker 2: like a trumb of dads. My friends that had kids
Speaker 2: moved into state back to Queensland.
Speaker 1: Away from here, and.
Speaker 2: So those of friends who were still in Sydney didn't
Speaker 2: have kids and.
Speaker 1: Mysteriously changed their phone numbers.
Speaker 2: That's really strange. I feel like when you don't have kids,
Speaker 2: you don't want to hang out with people with their
Speaker 2: kids like that.
Speaker 1: Me and my friend with no kids just sent me
Speaker 1: the other day and it was like me showing you
Speaker 1: to see the pictures of my kids and the glasses.
Speaker 2: Totally. I remember like even inviting friends, those friends who
Speaker 2: didn't have kids to birthday parties.
Speaker 1: Or come over and see my kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good, Like I'd rather, I'd rather go into
Speaker 2: the beach.
Speaker 3: Have you got a dog, I'll come over and see that.
Speaker 2: Like you don't wanna, you don't want to be a
Speaker 2: part of it. So now some of those friends have
Speaker 2: got kids, they've just recently given birth.
Speaker 1: They come and crawling back to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're like no, because we've done.
Speaker 2: Please please, I need my friend take anything. Because we
Speaker 2: didn't have we're not like you ash Well, we didn't.
Speaker 1: Have that bikable I'm on today.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we didn't.
Speaker 1: Have the quick wit gets me sometimes.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, you I thought you were you were lacking
Speaker 2: midway through. You've come home strong. You've always been a
Speaker 2: strong finisher.
Speaker 1: Tell that to April and they're coming back.
Speaker 2: We didn't have that mother group even even I remember
Speaker 2: there's a church down the road here and one of
Speaker 2: my old neighbors was like, hey, on Wednesday. They used
Speaker 2: to have the kids on a Wednesday. She's like, we
Speaker 2: go to the church and there's like just all these
Speaker 2: other parents.
Speaker 1: There, all these other god botherers.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not religious at all. And I initially was like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to church. Dude, Like five bucks,
Speaker 2: you do a quick prayer at the start.
Speaker 1: There's always a cost with these people.
Speaker 2: Then they feed you then yeah, so I was like
Speaker 2: great crackers and wine. Yeah, I mean that I'll do
Speaker 2: a prayer and pay five bucks if it means I
Speaker 2: get food and then my kids.
Speaker 1: Can play what's on the menu.
Speaker 2: It was like your sandwiches and like my friends going, yeah,
Speaker 2: it options no lobster what I'm used to, but it
Speaker 2: was it was like the easiest way to chew up
Speaker 2: two hours. There was not a single dad there, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, kee some milks. It's
Speaker 2: very disrespectful to call mother's mills and a compliment.
Speaker 1: How do you think it's compliments? Yeah. Look, I've been
Speaker 1: really lucky because April had a really good mother's group,
Speaker 1: which was spoken about on this I had because it's
Speaker 1: not a mother's group anymore. It's a dad's group. It's
Speaker 1: dude's crew now. So I've got a tribe. So you'd
Speaker 1: be careful, young man.
Speaker 2: I don't care old relationship. Tomorrow, I'll be fine.
Speaker 1: You cry yourself to sleep every night.
Speaker 2: Is there a hattie? Then spend time with the different groups.
Speaker 1: So I've got so mother's group is really good because
Speaker 1: there's going to be dads involved, not all the time.
Speaker 1: There can be two mums. It's a good way to
Speaker 1: meet other dads. But look, it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: lucky dip in a way where you could be like
Speaker 1: you could all gel or people could be on different
Speaker 1: paths just fine as well. I can get really serious
Speaker 1: and I'm not serious.
Speaker 2: You can change gears so very quickly.
Speaker 1: It's concerning can you do it in your wine voice?
Speaker 1: So what I would say, you couldn't find a fenny
Speaker 1: mixed bag of people that.
Speaker 3: Why is he going to tell you.
Speaker 1: That's right? Anyway? So you could get like a group
Speaker 1: you gel with, or you get a group we don't
Speaker 1: jail with. But like for me, we got a group
Speaker 1: we gel with. But then also all of my friends
Speaker 1: that I would hang out with regularly, bar one or
Speaker 1: two of them, which are the ones that are just like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to come over and see your kids,
Speaker 1: they all had kids at the same time. So I
Speaker 1: got really lucky that I had a really big tribe
Speaker 1: on two sides. So like when we just went away,
Speaker 1: then we had the dude's crew and the mother's group.
Speaker 1: But then also one of my mates who is part
Speaker 1: of the other side came along got on with them too.
Speaker 2: You blended them together.
Speaker 1: I've blended, and I've successfully blended. I'm on one today anyway,
Speaker 1: So I blended the two ones.
Speaker 2: I did. Actually, can I just say not to make
Speaker 2: it sound like I'm a complete fucking loser.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: I did find We found a friend in the park.
Speaker 1: Yeah, found a friend, Thank you.
Speaker 2: I know you have been approached in the parks before
Speaker 2: by other part I beat it. Count not into that.
Speaker 2: If any tips for people wanted to be friends with that,
Speaker 2: do not approach him in a park. He is not willing.
Speaker 1: I am not approachable. No, if you want to say
Speaker 1: good day, that's fine. But if you bloody coaxed me
Speaker 1: into a playdate, brah No.
Speaker 2: We had it was like I think the third third
Speaker 2: time on the weekend, because we have like a regular
Speaker 2: parks that we attend and you see the same face.
Speaker 1: You do the drive by. There's enough people there, battles
Speaker 1: keep going.
Speaker 2: But we saw the same family and then we had
Speaker 2: a quick chat. We had some similar friends, you know,
Speaker 2: separated by.
Speaker 3: Sure, some keys in the bowl.
Speaker 2: Next day we're all hanging out, so we have we
Speaker 2: don't see them enough because we're being very busy.
Speaker 1: They've moved away too, they did, they did move house.
Speaker 1: They did move.
Speaker 2: I was surprised you've lasted this long with me to
Speaker 2: be yea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very patient.
Speaker 2: Are not going anywhere?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm tied to the desk. So you've got a
Speaker 1: new friends.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're saying it's going to replace me.
Speaker 2: No for two weeks. I'm just saying, like you're like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, me and my fifty mates went to bar
Speaker 2: because I've got so many and I'm.
Speaker 1: A likable guy like I do. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: apologize for being a likable guy, and I would never
Speaker 1: expect you to apologize for being an unlikable guy.
Speaker 3: Anyway, she got new friends, what are the names? And
Speaker 3: we will allowed to shout the mount on?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: And they've got two kids. I got two kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, similarly sure not looking.
Speaker 3: In the mirror.
Speaker 1: He's good looking.
Speaker 2: They are good looking.
Speaker 3: They are very good looking at I mean.
Speaker 2: They're fit, they're strong.
Speaker 1: Sorry, cam me out. I am unfit and weak.
Speaker 2: No, so I I think Long story short, what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to say is, if all else fails, go.
Speaker 1: To the park lots.
Speaker 2: Repetition, try and spot the same people.
Speaker 1: Try and like you when you were like a young
Speaker 1: kid and you did things around other kids that they
Speaker 1: might like, so they'd be like, I like that too,
Speaker 1: So you do it. Just get close and you do
Speaker 1: an activity that that other person might like, Like, I'll be like.
Speaker 3: Throw us another beer, Babe?
Speaker 1: Did you hear me? Why are you saying that I
Speaker 1: like beer too?
Speaker 2: The guy's like, you're drinking beers at the part.
Speaker 1: Fuck? Yeah, bro, I need to be stopped. Anyway. That's
Speaker 1: a enough today.
Speaker 2: Would you like to do the wrap up?
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Speaker 1: I think people just needed to see my versatility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stretch that muscle.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be gonna I'm gonna be tired later.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Good thing you're getting public transport back home, because
Speaker 2: you would not be able to make it there if
Speaker 2: you're driving by yourself. I think that's it. I think
Speaker 2: that's everything.
Speaker 1: I think that is. Thank you as always.
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