1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows, 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello, 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: and welcome to the pod. You are in for a 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: treat today. Andrea Benderwald aka Dre is such a warm, 9 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: kind and open human. She's an actor, a podcaster, a 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: mama bear, and leads women's circles. So in this chat 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about acting and her incredible acting career. 12 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: She has been lucky enough to be in sitcoms, which 13 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: is of my ultimate dreams, and we talk about circling, 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: what it is, what led her to leading these circles 15 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: and what it means for her today and how it's 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: also now led to her incredible pod circle. This which 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: I will have links for all the things in the 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: show notes down below, not down it not down below, 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: but in the show notes, So please check Drey out. 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: She's absolutely been wonderful. She's a great human being and 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: She's just so warm. So I hope that this episode 22 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: for you feels like a warm cup of cocoa, because Drey, 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: you are flipping unreal. 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: Thank you friend, Let's go. 25 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Do you know what? I feel like we could have 26 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: recorded twenty minutes ago because you and I adjust natural 27 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: chatterboxers at natural talkers. I'm gonna call you Drey do 28 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: that feels You're such an open, friendly soul. But Andrea 29 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Benderwald is your beautiful It's such. 30 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: A beautiful name. 31 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to talk to you about circling. 32 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about your beautiful podcast, 33 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: which I've deep dive every Tuesday when a new drops 34 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: and I love the format, by the way, When at 35 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: the very end M comes in as well, and you 36 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: guys do a little like, oh well, what did you 37 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: think about this? What would you love about this? And 38 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: I literally, and I said this to you before we 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: heat record. I feel like I'm eavesdropping in on two 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: buttos just having a coffee talking about stuff they love. 41 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I told you why that was the greatest 42 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: compliment ever is because I want everybody to feel like 43 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: they are welcomed in, and these conversations literally are for them. Yeah, 44 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: the only reason I'm doing this podcast is because I 45 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: want to share these incredible women. Primarily I will be 46 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: having men on the pod, but I'm like, it brings 47 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: me so much joy to share these incredible women. Lee 48 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: Hilton Smith is someone we share in common. She was 49 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: my first guest, one of my best friends. We need 50 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: more of them. We need her voice everywhere. We need 51 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: her magic, her fairy dust, her gifts her talent. Because 52 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: they've fed my life so much. And anybody who who 53 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: meets them, they're like, or here's them. You know you 54 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: have a podcast. I have podcasts. You get great feedback 55 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: where where these conversations really have a ripple effect. So 56 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you said that because I want 57 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: people to feel included. 58 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Wow, mate, keep doing it forever and ever. It's called 59 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Circle This and it drops every Tuesday. And I'm going 60 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: to put links to listen in the show notes, so 61 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: you the listener, after you listen to this episode, please 62 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: go back and Deep Dive Drays pod. So many goodies 63 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: on there. Ah, bring a notebook, especially for Brooks. 64 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 65 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Oh oh my goodness. I was reck can I send 66 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: that to four friends? And I was like, take notes yeah, 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: this one, you know quickly before. I mean, my brain 68 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: is a pinball machine. But has there been anything because 69 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: I know the pod is not newer, but like I 70 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: know that it's like you started recording it at the 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: end of last year, right, even though we were in the 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: works for a while. 73 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: We started recording in October of twenty twenty four. No, sorry, yeah, 74 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: September we did September. 75 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it. 76 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Very fast thanks to Tercy, our producer, who was like, yeah, no, 77 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: let's launch it October twentieth. And we were like, oh, 78 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: we just recorded, we just recorded, but she did it. 79 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: She turned it around, she did an amazing edit and 80 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: we launched in October. 81 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: And has there been any moment where because Podland is amazing, 82 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: but it's a bit of a beast as well, like 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: a lot to it and the work that goes into 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: each pod. Has there been a little like moment where 85 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, my goodness, Like you know when you're 86 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: interviewing someone and you'll like just. 87 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: With them every episode really every episode. I'm not exaggerating, 88 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: And it's how I feel about leading circles. So you're 89 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: an open book. I'm an open book when you go 90 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: into a scenario like we're doing right now, or I'm 91 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: doing on my podcast or in a circle with the 92 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: intention of I'm entering this with curiosity and with the 93 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: goal to learn something and to receive something. Not that 94 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: I intended, it's not my agenda, but I'm here to 95 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: serve whatever that is, the collective, this person the moment 96 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: I get out of the way. But I also have 97 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: a lot that I'm aiming for, you know. 98 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm conduit. 99 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. And the way I designed this first 100 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: season of the podcast was to invite my closest circle 101 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: of women that either from the past have been part 102 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: of this circle journey or the present who I have 103 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: a deep connection with. And that's that's just been the 104 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: first the first season, and and the best part is 105 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm learning something in real time in every episode with 106 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: these incredible women. So it's that's the exciting. 107 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: Isn't it the best? That I get emotional in so 108 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: many episodes because I'm just like podcasting is bigger than us, 109 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Like where just where does he? I think we're here 110 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: for a really cool ride, and like how lucky that 111 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: we get to sit with another human being and essentially 112 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: like basking their. 113 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Essence for a window of time, and we really are 114 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: conduits in the sense that we don't know what this conversation, 115 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: who it's going to serve, and when. What's going to 116 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: come through this conversation has nothing to do with us. 117 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to be inspired to share some story or 118 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: some anecdote because you're here on a you know, Tuesday, 119 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: sitting on my couch on a new moon. I think 120 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: today's the new moon by the way. 121 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Pisces, and you'll Piscey, what's up, Bubba Pisces. 122 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: It's Pisce season. I'm so excited. So somebody's a guest recently. 123 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Her episode hasn't come out yet, and she said, you know, 124 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about our episode and if you want 125 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: to re record it, and I was like, oh, I 126 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: don't know, let me see, but we could either do 127 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: another one or but let me see. And I said 128 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: to her, Yeah, whatever happened during that that episode was 129 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: meant to happen. Those stories were meant to be shared. 130 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: And we have no idea but that the story you 131 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: shared about your experience, you failed famously or whatever it was, 132 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: that story is going to have a ripple effect and 133 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: change somebody's life and who are reader second guest that 134 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: that's the story that wanted to be told. So I'm 135 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: blown and wet, not blown away. I am moved inspired. 136 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: I get chills every episode. I'm tired of my own 137 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: voice saying that, oh my god, I got full body chills. 138 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: But it's true that something happens in every episode. So 139 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: and a lot of these people I know really. 140 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, you'll be blown away though. Like sometimes 141 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: I remember I interviewed and an amazing author in Australia. 142 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: We'd never met before, but I'd read his work and 143 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: it was just so I heard that episode Trent Dalton, 144 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: his name is Yeah, and he'd sent me a book 145 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: and we hadn't met, and I think i'd done a 146 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: story or something on Insta and he said, Lola, never 147 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: let your light dull, like, always keep shining. And it 148 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: was just a day where I got a rejection audition 149 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: here in LA and I just remember starting to cry 150 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: because I felt seen when I just felt like I 151 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: was a people and someone to do here, you know 152 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I told him that story and 153 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: we were both to sit across from each other cry 154 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: like but we never met before, like and so beautiful, 155 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see where your pod goes. I 156 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: look forward to every Tuesday, and please keep doing it 157 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: forever and ever and ever. Okay, okay, okay done. Can 158 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: I talk to you about being an actor because I 159 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: have to say you were a dream to deep dive. 160 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: I have gone back and watched you. Suddenly Susan my friend, 161 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: and oh, like like for me, that sitcom world just 162 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: from the outside, and I got a taping sometimes as well, 163 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: just seems like such a fun It's a very specific 164 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: like genre as well. But to be part of a 165 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: sitcom family like that. When I said family, you know, 166 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: I like it. 167 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well a show that goes longer than one season, yeah, 168 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: you get to really get to know. 169 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: How was that? 170 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: It was amazing And it was the nineties in network television, 171 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: and it was this really special time. Suddenly Susan shot 172 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: on the Warner Brothers stage and there were so many 173 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: incredible shows over there at the time, from Friends to 174 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: Er to Drew Carrey to and endless other ones and 175 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: we all, and I say we all, it was like 176 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: just a romantic time to be acting and to be 177 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: in la and to be on sitcoms, and so it 178 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: was really special. It was really special and it was 179 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: a beautiful cast. I was only on it for two years. 180 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: The show was on for four years, so I was 181 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: on the middle two years, and yeah, we had a 182 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: lot of fun. We had a lot of fun. And 183 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: you're right, it's a different it's a different genre and 184 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: just funnily enough. I talk to actors all the time 185 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: about you know, I fancied myself Lola, a very dramatic 186 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: actress when I graduated from theater school, and I thought 187 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: I was going to come out here and play these dramatic, 188 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: almost like character roles. You know, you come out of 189 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: school and you think, like I can play anything, and 190 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: then you get into the business of show and you 191 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: get hired in what in what you a little bit of, 192 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: like who you are, gets hired totally right like you. 193 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: It's like your essence gets hired more than your acting resume. 194 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: Let's say, so finding that lane or that lane found 195 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: me where all of a sudden I was getting jobs 196 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: doing pilots and then sitcom So I did a lot 197 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: of pilots before I did Suddenly Susan like things that 198 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: aren't on the resume. I did like endless pilots for NBC. 199 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: I would do like two or three a year pilots 200 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 2: back to back, playing like the girl in the sitcom 201 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: with the stand up comic who couldn't act, but they 202 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: would hire these people around them and then those wouldn't go. 203 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: Those wouldn't go. So by the time I got Suddenly Susan, 204 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: I'd also guested on a bunch of NBC shows. 205 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 206 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: I think by the time I got Suddenly Susan. 207 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your I didn't IMDBA Price Talk. Oh yeah, 208 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: your resume is amazing of like that kind of like 209 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: genre of sitcoms. Is there any moment from that, like 210 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: and like you said that kind of like nineties era 211 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: of that like stands out because I imagine, like, especially if 212 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: you've been on a show for two years as well, 213 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Like there are those moments where you're on set and 214 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: my teacher in Australia always says to me, doesn't matter 215 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: if you're doing a play, TV film every now and 216 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: then and you being so connected to yourself and so 217 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: self aware, he said, an angel walks across the stage 218 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: and he said, it's kind of it's kind of like 219 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: something's bigger than you and you're just again a conduit 220 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: in active form. Does any of from any of your 221 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: acting because you're in you were in Stickett as well, 222 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: that awesome Cheerleader. I love that movie. 223 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: Yes, with Jeff Bridges, I meant to do a scene 224 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: with him that was that would have Jamie. I was 225 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: gonna say, yeah, so what's the question like an angel 226 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: or an angel walks across the stage like someone, like 227 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: an interaction with somebody that was like. 228 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Or like a moment acting wise where you're like, oh, yeah, 229 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: that was the day where I was like, yeah, that's 230 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: the ship, that's the stuff I love. 231 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I would say, well, I have so 232 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: many memories. Oh it was. It really was a dream 233 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: come true and romantic. Like I remember walking the walking 234 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: onto a studio lot the first time and having a 235 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: having a job. Honest I think I remember the first 236 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: time walking on and having an audition and thought I 237 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: had arrived. I was like I've arrived, like they had 238 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: my name at the gate we drove in, and then 239 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: having the first job and having a dressing room and 240 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: then you know, I had I had many like I 241 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: did an episode of Seinfeldt working with like the Greats. 242 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: It was like maybe their tenth season, and I remember 243 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: so I was. You know, I was very often a 244 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: guest and a guest spot. A guest star just works 245 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: that week. You know, you work five days and then 246 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: you're gone. And I remember, I'm a real keen observer, 247 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, It's it's part of one of my skill 248 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: sets that I observe everything. So if you ever want 249 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: details about anything, just ask me and I can tell 250 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: you everything. But I observed this incredible cast and they 251 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: they were so professional, and they treated everybody so well, 252 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: and they were the they were the first ones on stage, 253 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: the last ones off stage, meaning we weren't waiting for anybody. 254 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, with a. 255 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: Big ego, I guess you know. They were so professional 256 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: and kind and generous and and I'll never I'll never 257 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: forget that job. That was when the craft service was 258 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: the most incredible craft It was like endless. It was 259 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: like everybody for who doesn't know what craft services. It's 260 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: the behind the scenes on stage for the cast and crew. Food, 261 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: gorgeous food station. And it was like it was like 262 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: the mac Daddy of service. 263 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Isn't it insane? We barely have it in Australia, Just 264 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: so you know, And I used to do a show 265 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: here called Home and Family on Universal Lot and I 266 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: the first time I went to the crafty there, I 267 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: was I think that's the buzzy word for I was like, 268 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, is this for us? And I was like, 269 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: and I think I took snacks for later because I 270 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: was so blown away. 271 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: Snacks for letter of course. 272 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, this is wild. 273 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: Actors who were usually always malnourished. Well, like you'll see 274 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: them putting granola bars and their bad and string cheese 275 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: and things like that. By the way, I'm referring to 276 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: that craft service at Seinfeld. This was back in the 277 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: nineties when I was still like, I mean, I've worked 278 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: on many shows that have incredible craft service. I just 279 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: remember that one at the time. Yeah, because it was 280 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: Seinfeld and it was there, you know, they were at 281 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: the Yeah. I love that. 282 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: That's a memory that popped up for you. I do 283 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: I have to ask, because both Lee and you have 284 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: shared this incredible story about working with Jeff Bridges. 285 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, can you share that? Well? I read his 286 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: book much later because of Lee's class, which is the 287 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: Dude and the zen Master. Yeah, and I understood the 288 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: story of what happened to me with with mister Bridges 289 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: after reading his book. So I had one. I think 290 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: I was only there a day and I had one 291 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: scene and it was with him. I don't I literally 292 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: I don't remember if I had another scene in the 293 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: movie or forgot cut out, but I do remember this 294 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 2: one scene with him, and I was in the makeup 295 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: trailer beforehand. And just a backup a second, I think 296 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: I worked a lot in the time that I worked 297 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: a lot, and it was because I had really good 298 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: I had a really good work ethic. 299 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you're like a type person. 300 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would like you never had to worry 301 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: about me if I was on your set. I knew 302 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: my lines. I wasn't my maintenance. I really was. I 303 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: just kind of like served the project Da da da so, 304 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: and part of that was, you know, not taking up 305 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: too much air. And I at that time that I 306 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: was working on Sticket, I had seen people get fired 307 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: for being either assholes or too high maintenance or you know, 308 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: just like not reading the room. Yeah right, So I 309 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: was probably too much of a good girl in the 310 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: sense that I never rocked the boat. Yeah. So, just 311 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: to paint the picture. So I'm in the makeup trailer, 312 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: mister Bridges walks in and I'm like, I don't talk 313 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: to him. I'm not going to you know, I'm I'm 314 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: a guest, I'm there in my hair and makeup, I'm in, 315 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 2: I'm out. And he starts talking to me and starts 316 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: asking me who I am and where I live and 317 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: and I'm so enamored and shocked, and also I'm a 318 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: good conversationalist, so I know answer and we have a 319 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: good chat. And he's like that with everybody. So he's 320 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: like that with the hair and makeup women and men, 321 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: and he's like that with the first and second nd, 322 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: and he's like that with the extras. And he continues 323 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: to be that way with me on set. I think 324 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: we sat together and had lunch together with a couple 325 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: of the other players. And what I didn't understand, and 326 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: by the end of the day I clearly thought we 327 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: were best friends and wanted to be best friends with 328 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: him because he's such a legend. But what I experienced 329 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: and what I then learned in his book is that 330 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: he was doing that with such intention and that was 331 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: and I'm paraphrasing badly, but you should read the book. 332 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: This is just my memory and takeaway is that he's 333 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: in the business of connection and humanity and storytelling. So 334 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: why wouldn't he connect and treat his co workers with 335 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: humanity and want to get to know them so that 336 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: when we're on camera together playing connected people, that we 337 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: wouldn't have an organic, genuine connection on camera like he 338 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: had developed off camera, like he was developing with everyone 339 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: on set. Is that the story to tell? That's my memory. 340 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: And it wasn't until I read that book that I went, 341 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: that's what he was doing. That was amazing, and you know, 342 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: add to Kart, let me, let me put some of 343 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: that in my daily life, in my daily life, in 344 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: my and not just like, oh, I'm going to connect 345 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: with you now because we're having a conversation on a podcast, 346 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: or I'm going to connect with you now because I'm 347 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: holding space in a circle. But and how can I 348 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: connect with people that I want to be connected with 349 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: all people? 350 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: And it sounds like he did it in such a genuine, 351 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: seamless way, like it's just core of ease. And I 352 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: think if we can live from a space of just 353 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: genuine truth and connection, it's really gonna let you down. 354 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: Like it's a pretty cool yeah. 355 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: Biromao, it's a pretty cool, Like set of values and. 356 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: It's like the anti ego approach. Yeh, so he was, 357 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: you know, I think I understand the ego or what 358 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: I've studied about it, which is the ego wants to 359 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: put us above or below whoever we're around. I'm better 360 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: than you or I'm less than you. And often in 361 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: this society that we are currently in, everybody knows their 362 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: place based on like a social structure or they still 363 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: play into it. And especially in Hollywood. Come on, there's 364 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: number one on the call sheet, there's the star, there's 365 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: the person that's making all this money. They're the one 366 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: that's financing the project. You know, there is a hierarchy 367 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: of who is let's say above, who is below. Literally 368 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: there's a line, there's a saying below the line. Are 369 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: you working below the line? 370 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: Or really? 371 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, below the line means people that are working 372 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: in the crew. Above the line means you know, they're 373 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: working in more of the higher up production. Wow. Yeah. 374 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: So he was deleting all the lines and deleting all 375 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: the hierarchy of social structure, and he was this is 376 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: my takeaway, my definition, he was bringing us all in together. 377 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: Let's use the circle metaphor is we're all equal in 378 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: the circle, so we're all in this together, and we're 379 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: all connected, so why not let's get connected now rather 380 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: than wait for someone to yell action and then we're 381 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: supposed to act connected and everybody has their different watch 382 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: McCall it methods, acting methods. That was mister Bridges's method, 383 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: and I'll never forget it. 384 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: No, I love thank you for sharing that. It's I 385 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: think as well, like as an actor that loves to 386 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: work really hard and for so long, it was really 387 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: important to me to show people how hard i'd worked, 388 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: and you and I have talked about this over Brecky before, 389 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: and to flip that all on its head and just 390 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: be like, you know you're going to do the work. 391 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: You know you're going to do the preparation, trust that, 392 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: and then just focus on being connected and being in 393 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: present with another human being. I know you love the 394 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: word dama. I also love the word dama, which to 395 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: me means to live one's purpose or be connected to 396 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: that purpose. Big load A question for you, what is 397 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: your dama in this lifetime? 398 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good question. I love the word alignment lately, 399 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: and so to me, dharma is it's living your purpose. 400 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 2: And how do you know you're living your purpose is 401 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: because everything aligns. So I also know that I love 402 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: leading circles. That is part of my darma because I 403 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: would do it for free for the rest of my life. 404 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: That's part of it. And I feel hundred percent aligned 405 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: when I'm leading a circle. And because circling has been 406 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: my main spiritual practice and I have healed lifetimes sitting 407 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: in circles, it is of absolute urgency that I share 408 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: this with other women especially, but also men, so that 409 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: they can have a similar experience that I have had, 410 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: which is a healing experience and feeling love and connection 411 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: and wholeness in the way that I have through these 412 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: many years of circling. 413 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. This, this is something I've heard 414 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: you speak about before. But self care, I think, especially 415 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: in the act, in the act world, all the creativity world, 416 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: we get so caught up in being in class, which 417 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: is amazing, but working on the script, and then there's 418 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: working on the scenes, working being in scenes study, there's 419 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: doing the auditionet being there for the callback, you know, 420 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: like constantly honing your craft, working with a dialect code, 421 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: or there's that piece of the puzzle. But then and 422 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: it's that hard work ethic that we spoke to earlier, 423 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: but then without the self care aspect. And it's kind 424 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: of easy to skip that because it feels gentler and 425 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: softer and more potentially yin than yang and go getter. 426 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, how do we find that and cultivate that 427 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: balance of self care to be a better artist, to 428 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: be a better mum, to be a better creative? 429 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I have learned and am still learning that 430 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: when I practice self care, I can do everything else 431 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: so much better. So if I'm running on an empty tank, 432 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: I can run on adrenaline for a while, but I 433 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: will burn out. Yeah, I will crash. I will be 434 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: taken down. And sometimes that's how I have to learn 435 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: the lesson the flip side, the more mature side. I'm 436 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: going to be fifty five March fourth and never been 437 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: more excited. Is I've learned through doing it the other way, 438 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 2: depleting myself that I don't have to. I don't have to, 439 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: I can. It's actually badass and sexy and everything else 440 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: to practice self care first first and then hit the 441 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: pavement or grind or whatever. And I don't even like 442 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: to look at it that way. Here comes my tap 443 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: dancing dog walking into the room. Is I don't even 444 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: like to look at it as like go out and grind, 445 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: but I love this word a line. Is Is it 446 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: an a alignment with with me? 447 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: Yeah? 448 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: So if you want to go and do all those 449 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: things to get the job, is it aligned? And for 450 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: a lot of us it is. It's like Nope, I 451 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 2: have my eye on the prize. I know what I 452 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: want and I'm going to go get it. We were 453 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 2: talking about producing podcasts earlier, and I knew what I 454 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: wanted to do with this podcast and I just stayed 455 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: in alignment with that vision and when something didn't work, 456 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: I let it not work. I didn't force it. And 457 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: how do I practice self care? I do a lot 458 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: of checking in with myself, like like how am I doing? 459 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: Am I running this through my heart or through my ego? 460 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: Am I meditating? Am I balanced? Am I do I 461 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: know what I need right now? Or am I trying 462 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: to force it from the outside to get what I 463 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: think I need to make me feel better on the inside. 464 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: Totally, that takes a very good sense of self as well, 465 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: and also like comfortable being very honest with yourself, right, 466 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, And sometimes that's sun comfy too. 467 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: And sometimes actors are not very honest with themselves. 468 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah they're They. 469 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: Think like, yeah, but if I just I'll speak for myself. 470 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: This is what I used to do. I used to 471 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: think instead. I wish I knew this word alignment. Back 472 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: in my twenties and thirties. I used to think, like, no, 473 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: it's up to me to make it happen right totally. 474 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: And then if it wasn't happening, I thought it was 475 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: all my fault. So that's the ego. You take too 476 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: much credit and too much blame, and really it has 477 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: to do with a million, trillion billion other things that 478 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 2: have to be in alignment. I just teacher. Her name's Nanielle. 479 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: I quote her all the time. And when I was 480 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: still acting at like a you know, at a more 481 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: consistent that was my main career, she would say, your 482 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: job is to show up and serve the process. Oh wow, 483 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 2: not get the job, but serve the process. And that 484 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: helped a lot. It wasn't just about getting the job, 485 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: which is part of it, because you're wanting to get 486 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: the job to pay the rent. But when I practiced that, 487 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: it freed me up. I was serving a bigger process. 488 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: I was serving the project because I go into audition 489 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: for the part, and maybe I'm right for it, maybe 490 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm wrong for it. Not up to me. But it's 491 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: information for the people sitting behind the desk. Yeah, yeah, 492 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: it's information for me. Maybe I'm supposed to meet somebody 493 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: in the waiting room hmm. I got very popular in 494 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: waiting rooms because I would chat up everybody in the 495 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: waiting rooms of auditions. 496 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: That's so much fun. I'm a chatterbox as well. You 497 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: can see some people can't stand it though. Some people 498 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: have to be in like yeah, it's like pre fight 499 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: or something, you know, like they go into battle. That's right, 500 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: but it's like they're probably gonna you're probably gonna walk 501 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: in there, They're gonna hand you a whole new script anyway. 502 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Half the time. 503 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: Well, and I might have been tapping into when I 504 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: really learned that was like the Jeff Bridges way of life, 505 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 2: which is, don't disconnect in the waiting room and then 506 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: think you're going to go in there and be brilliant 507 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: in the room room. Of course, everybody has their own process, 508 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: but I got into like, oh my gosh, there's Lola, 509 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: let's chat how are you seed in so long, get 510 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: the juices flowing, get connected and then go into the 511 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: audition room and stay connected. 512 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a beautiful It's a very simple but a 513 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: huge change to mate. What is something you now my 514 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: pissy's queen, it's bad to have a birthday. What's something 515 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: you're really excited about. 516 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: I'm excited about the podcast. I'm excited about this word 517 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: alignment that has been my north star since October and 518 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: it's changing my life to not look at anything as 519 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: right or wrong, good or bad, but it's either out 520 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: of alignment or seeking alignment. So not forcing anything, not 521 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 2: judging anything. And when I'm saying anything, I mean in 522 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: my own personal life as I'm going on about my day. 523 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: Like case in point, the first episode of the podcast 524 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: I recorded with Emily and I wish you were here 525 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: because I could make fun of her is. We tried 526 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: to record an episode, she and I and it was terrible. 527 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: It was awful. It was just like bad. I believe 528 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: that there was no no, it was terrible. She was nervous. 529 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: We hadn't really figured out what we were going to do, 530 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: and it was like an app and I could see 531 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: it in her eyes that she was panicked and I 532 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: wasn't panicked. I was like, all right, well that didn't work, 533 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: so we just got to find out what works like 534 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: onto the next, Onto the next. I could have panicked. 535 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: I had a lot of I had a lot set 536 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: up on that first episode, a lot of like you know, yeah, 537 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: the pressure was on, and I just went like, no, 538 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 2: we'll find it. It's it's this is trying to find 539 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: its aligned version and not being aligned is part of 540 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: finding alignment. 541 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: Totally. 542 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: That's it. 543 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I also think as well, when 544 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: something doesn't go and I wanted to air quotes, it 545 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: doesn't go right, if you can stay open and calm it, 546 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: usually something even bitter or will come from it. 547 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: It's as valuable as when things are going right. Right. 548 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: It's just information, Yeah, it's just information. And not to 549 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 2: judge the information. Not to not to get so hung 550 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: up on I'll use these words, but I don't even 551 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: like them anymore. Not to get hung up on positive 552 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 2: or negative, good or bad, up or down. What I'm 553 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: making a hand gesture, I like talking to someone that 554 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 2: needs to podcast, is I'm making a gesture of like 555 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: of my hand waving in flow, like flowing down the river. 556 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm looking forward to, me staying in flow, 557 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: staying aligned, being of service, staying in my dharma, leading circles, 558 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: doing the podcast, leading retreats, having amazing conversations with other 559 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: people about this type of consciousness. 560 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: Can I add two more things for you in there? 561 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: Sure? 562 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: Just having research and deep dived you and I've feel 563 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: like I'm getting a real sense of who you are. 564 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: A book and a set of oracle cards. 565 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 2: Oh yes, so the book is in the work right 566 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: speaking to an author who's who's published a couple of books, 567 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: the book is in the work, So thank you for 568 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: saying that. And yes I did. I did a set 569 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: of cards once and they were prompt cards for circles. 570 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: So now that that thanks for saying that, because that'll 571 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: be like another another machination of that will happen. 572 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: And also to go with the book as well, well, 573 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: we can talk business stuff. 574 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 2: My business coach. 575 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: I love it. One of my favorite things in I think. 576 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 2: That's your dharma, by the way, isn't it? People you 577 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: can't not coach goodness. I lot of people. 578 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: I love discovering someone's passion and then being like, how 579 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: do we how do we turn this into It's I 580 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: think that's why this pot exists, because I get to 581 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: sit with someone's passion for an hour and just be like, 582 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, more and more do we turn this into? 583 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: You know? And so I feel very lucky to have 584 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: sat down with you today. The last thing that I 585 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: just want to ask you is so many creatives and 586 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot of females, but a lot of women, but 587 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 1: a lot of actors listen to this and creatives, and 588 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: I think that self doubt is something that a lot 589 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: of younger actors can grapple with or face. And I 590 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: always ask this because it's something that creeps in for 591 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: me every now and then. It's not every day thing, 592 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: but it'll it'll, it'll, it'll creep in and tap my 593 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: shoulder every now and then. What is your advice for combat? 594 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: And I ask a lot of I asked Lee this 595 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: as well. What is your advice for combat combating self 596 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: doubt as a creative? 597 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: Okay, great question and this just happened. Okay, So. 598 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: Here's the. 599 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: Here's the headline. When fear shows up, ask it what 600 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 2: it's trying to show you. Yeah, don't try to don't 601 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: say like, oh, I want to get rid of all 602 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 2: my fear. When fear shows up, invited to the table 603 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: and say, what are you trying to show me? So 604 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: I'll tell you My example was I was leading a 605 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: retreat in Mexico. Day two, fear showed up and was like, 606 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: you're a fucking fraud. Who do you think you are? 607 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: Blah blah, love, yeah, just like whatever, all the shadow stuff. 608 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: And I said, and I've worked with this long enough 609 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 2: that I said, all right, well, and I knew why 610 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: it was showing up because we were conjuring up so 611 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 2: much love that the opposite showed up. It's the opposite 612 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 2: of love, fear. So we were in the midst of 613 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: this incredibly loving retreat that I was co facilitating all 614 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: this love, so of course all the fear showed up 615 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 2: and it was the same old usual stuff. And I said, okay, 616 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: what do you what do you? 617 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: What do you? 618 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: What are you trying to show me? 619 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: Like? 620 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: What are you here for? And the answer was, well, 621 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: I show up because I'm trying to keep you safe. 622 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: And I said, okay, you're trying to keep me safe. Thanks, 623 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: And then I focused on being safe. So then I 624 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: brought in faith and I just did a quick little 625 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: check in and I said, I'm safe in my body. 626 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: I'm safe in this moment. Everything's okay. I am safe. 627 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 2: But the fear, the fear because maybe I was expanding. 628 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 2: I was like in a in another you know, in 629 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: another stage of whatever. So the fear was it was 630 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: just there to kind of like like keep me back 631 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 2: from expanding. But I didn't try to resist it. And 632 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: so now I say, faith, love fear. So when fear 633 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: shows up, it's asking me to have more faith. Oh, 634 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: but I need to know why it's showing up. So 635 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: when self doubt shows up, why why now? What are 636 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: you here to show me? Or Oh it's the little 637 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 2: girl who didn't feel safe when she was being seen. 638 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: That's my story, the little girl when she was like 639 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 2: shining bright, it was dangerous. Oh I get it. So 640 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: now I'm shining really really bright. Fear is showing up 641 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: to keep me safe. I turn to it and I say, 642 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: thank you for showing up. I get you're trying to 643 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 2: keep me safe. Let me bring in a little faith 644 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 2: right now and check in with myself and say I'm okay, 645 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 2: I am safe. All is well. Thank you fear. 646 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,959 Speaker 1: Ah love it. What do I to end the pod 647 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you Fia. 648 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you fear for showing up, because because you're 649 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: trying to tell me something. And the last note for 650 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: actors is we're in the business of being vulnerable. We're 651 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 2: in the business of being seen. We're in the business 652 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 2: of being rejected. We're in the business of nobody's saying 653 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: it's a guarantee that this is going to work out 654 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 2: in your favor. So fear shows up, I think, or 655 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 2: self doubt shows up to ask you the question who 656 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 2: are you? And what do you want? And what are you? 657 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 2: What do you want to create? What is your to 658 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 2: use your word, like, what is your dharma? And sometimes 659 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: for me, the self doubt showed up because I wasn't 660 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 2: living my dharma. Acting it was something I could do, 661 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 2: but it wasn't my dharma. And so I think that 662 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 2: self doubt showed up for me as an actor was 663 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: a good thing. I think it was a really good thing. 664 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 2: It showed up enough that and I finally said, like, yeah, 665 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 2: I don't have enough faith right now to keep going. 666 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 2: Now I have more faith. I have faith in everything. 667 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: I can't I can't you know, I have faith for everybody. 668 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: So cool, so cool. I'm so glad we talked about fear. 669 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 2: It just happened at the retreat. 670 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 1: Ah, I'm so happy we did, because fear is something 671 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: that can feel icky and uncomfortable for people, and I 672 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: really appreciate you. 673 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: We're not and we're not taught to look at it 674 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: in a loving way. We're taught to be afraid of fear. Like, 675 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm nervous now. I embrace it everything 676 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: I do. I'm nervous by the way, every circle I lead, 677 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm nervous. But I know to embrace it and to 678 00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 2: keep going. 679 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: And often it's nerves can be caring and excited and 680 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: like all these awesome things as well, you know. 681 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 2: And it can be energy, yeah, and we mistake it, 682 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 2: or it can be intuition and we mislabel it as 683 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: fear or anxiety. 684 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: Totallyre You're flipping wonderful. Thank you for. 685 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 2: Jumping on this, Thanks for having Ah. 686 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: Ten ten points. Griffindor loved it. Thank you friend. You're 687 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: cross paths again. 688 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for my gifts, my celestial compass from Natasha Weber 689 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 2: and freaking out. 690 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna love you got it. You're gonna want to 691 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: chat to her. I just know what I'm connecting you 692 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: to Okay, we'd love it. That's a wrap on another 693 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, thank you to our guests, 694 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. I'm at Yamo 695 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: Lollaberry This potty my work for podcast is available on 696 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: all streaming platforms. 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