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Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with.

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Scot Morrison. Hello. Hello, how'd you go tackling Carl?

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Speaker 3: Sorry I missed that.

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Speaker 2: How did you go tackling Carl?

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Speaker 3: You know because he was cooked today?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Don't tackle Ali, I don't don't have a bad egg.

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Speaker 2: She had a knee injury on a hoverboard. Don't do it.

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Speaker 4: Look, this is a very important day and a very

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Speaker 4: big day for you. Just a couple of things is

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Speaker 4: that I know you've been buoyed by the unemployment rate

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Speaker 4: which is seventy percent low, but we've had the biggest

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Speaker 4: fall in real wages this century. And I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: the aged care in particular the aged care sector which

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Speaker 4: seems to be struggling. We know there's a lot of employment,

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Speaker 4: but people aren't staying in the jobs because the conditions

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Speaker 4: are bad postpen during the pandemic, and the wages are terrible.

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Speaker 4: So we're getting we can't buoy these sectors up. What

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Speaker 4: can we do? Aged care is such a big issue

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Speaker 4: for people.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is, and as you know, I initiated the

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Speaker 3: Royal Commission into age care and our response to it,

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Speaker 3: which has nineteen point one billion dollars of investment to

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Speaker 3: deal with a whole raft of issues from people's nutrition

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Speaker 3: and the care they receive, getting longer hours of nursing

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Speaker 3: care as was recommended by the Royal Commission, but also

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Speaker 3: dealing with these really challenging workforce issues and there's over

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Speaker 3: three hundred million specifically which is addressing that. Now the

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Speaker 3: Fair Work Commission is going to make an independent decision

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Speaker 3: on the wages in the age care sector, and of

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Speaker 3: course that will be implemented, but it is a big challenge.

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Speaker 3: But the point i'd make is you're right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is a very big choice Australians are about to make.

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Speaker 3: And I can tell you this. If you can't manage money,

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Speaker 3: you can't fix age care if you don't have a

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Speaker 3: strong economy. And that unemployment figure is important three point

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Speaker 3: nine percent ninety two four hundred additional full time jobs

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Speaker 3: just last month. And the issues you make about real

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Speaker 3: wages are true. But the challenge with real wages is

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Speaker 3: the rate of inflation. The wage rise that we saw

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Speaker 3: of the past year up slightly to two point four percent,

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Speaker 3: but what we're seeing is the challenge of inflation, and

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Speaker 3: that's been caused by the war in Europe, the shutdowns

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Speaker 3: in China, the disruption of the supply Chaine. I think

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Speaker 3: Australians understand that because they're seeing it all around the world.

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Speaker 3: I mean, inflation in Australia is five point one percent.

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Speaker 3: In the UK it's nine percent, in the US it's

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Speaker 3: eight and a half percent. In New Zealand it's almost

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Speaker 3: seven and interest rates have gone up there one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty five basis points. That's five times what they've

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Speaker 3: gone up in Australia. So we've had strong economic policies

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Speaker 3: that as shield as Australians got them into work. Our

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Speaker 3: plans working between know Australians are working and that sets

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Speaker 3: us up for an opportunity in the future. The alternative is,

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Speaker 3: as they confirmed yesterday, eight and a half billion dollars

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Speaker 3: of higher deficits, fifty sixty billion dollars in more debt.

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Speaker 3: And what that does is only put few on the

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Speaker 3: fire of inflation and interest rate pressures, which means Australian

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Speaker 3: families end up paying more and they'll come after them

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Speaker 3: with higher taxes too, because that's what they always do

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Speaker 3: when they can't manage money.

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Speaker 1: With stuff like the subs, for example. I find it

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Speaker 1: extraordinary that we spend five point four billion dollars. Surely

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Speaker 1: we've got something out of that. With the French, do

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Speaker 1: we get something out of it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. We had people working on that program for several

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Speaker 3: years and they've developed incredible skills, which is going to

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Speaker 3: be really important as we move forward with our nuclear

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Speaker 3: powered submarine program. I mean that when you have some

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Speaker 3: costs in the program, I mean there are people doing

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Speaker 3: important jobs and they develop great skills and capabilities, and

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Speaker 3: that's important. But I mean what we're spending every year

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Speaker 3: on age care, I mean it's significant and it will

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Speaker 3: continue to grow as it is. On the National Disability

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Speaker 3: Insurance Medicare. We spend thirty one point four billion dollars

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Speaker 3: a year on Medicare. And the only way you can

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Speaker 3: support all of these is if someone knows how to

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Speaker 4: But that's what's been frustrating. Thirty billion wasted on job Keeper.

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Speaker 4: It went to people that didn't use it appropriately. We've

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Speaker 4: had lots of money, as we see on wasted with

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Speaker 4: the submarines. And where is sporting sports roots as they're

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Speaker 4: known without an EYECAC, without a federal EYECAC to keep

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Speaker 4: an eye on where all this money is going. You

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Speaker 4: can see why people are frustrated that, yes, policies cost money,

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Speaker 4: but there's a lot of wasted money.

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Speaker 3: Well, can I just pull you up on all of those, Amanda.

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Speaker 3: First of all, job Keeper was paid to individuals. It

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Speaker 3: was paid through the business, and every single cent went

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Speaker 3: to people who needed that money, every single cent. It

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Speaker 3: was basically using employers' payrolls to pay Social Security, so

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Speaker 3: the companies didn't keep it. It was paid for their

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Speaker 3: employees who needed it in the middle of a pandemic.

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Speaker 3: And it saved eight hundred thousand jobs.

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Speaker 4: Yes it did, but there was a lot of wastage

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Speaker 4: as work.

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Speaker 3: I don't accept that. I don't accept that at all,

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Speaker 3: because every single dollar of job Keeper went to the individuals.

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Speaker 3: It went through the company to the individuals, and that

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Speaker 3: helped them get through the pandemic. And I don't make

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Speaker 3: any apologies for going to an election and telling community

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Speaker 3: organized where they need support for local community facilities, that

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Speaker 3: we're transparent. We go to an election, we say we're

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Speaker 3: going to invest here, we're going to invest there, and

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Speaker 3: when they support us, and of course we're going to

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Speaker 3: honor our commitments. Of course we're going to do that.

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Speaker 3: This idea that somehow the politicians who are elected can

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Speaker 3: only do things that public servants in Canberra tell them

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Speaker 3: to do, and that when they make decisions based on

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Speaker 3: commitments they've made to our own people we got at

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Speaker 3: every election. Well, I think that's just a bit odd.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you don't see your need for out of elections.

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Speaker 4: But the public, the public saying they'd like to see

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Speaker 4: a federal ika.

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Speaker 3: Well, we have three hundred and forty seven pages of

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Speaker 3: legislation to establish a Commonwealth Integrity Commission, and we've got

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Speaker 3: fifty million dollars to support it, and we've already introduced

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Speaker 3: the first half of it through the Law Enforcement Integrity Commission.

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Speaker 3: It's already in place for so many elements of what

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Speaker 3: federal governments do in the law enforcement area, and that

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Speaker 3: covers everything from ASSEK and APRA to the way immigration works.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure people understand that we've already done half

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Speaker 3: of that commission and the other half we don't have

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Speaker 3: support from on a bipartisan basis, and we've got legislation

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Speaker 3: that's there and we'll prought out. Labor Party has two

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Speaker 3: pages of it's just you know, an advertising pamphlet, and

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Speaker 3: we've got three hundred and forty seven pages of legislation,

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Speaker 3: real powers with real powers, real powers to compel evidence

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Speaker 3: and conduct searches and do all of those sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: And it looks at serious It looks at real criminal behavior,

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Speaker 3: not whose people's boyfriends are.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys, do you guys see you see yourself

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Speaker 1: as the underdog in this or do you think you

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Speaker 1: can win it?

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Speaker 3: No? We always have been. But you know a little

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Speaker 3: bit like the Sharks the other day winning against the

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Speaker 3: Warriors with eleven players. Mate, there's a lot of grit

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Speaker 3: in this shark and.

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Speaker 2: What happened to the week after, But let's not talk

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Speaker 2: about the week after.

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Speaker 3: I'll just stay with the Warriors match.

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Speaker 1: Well, if this will lift your spirits, gloom me. The

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Speaker 1: octopause Sydney Aquarium has predicted a liberal win. He's put

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Speaker 1: his tentacles on the blue brick and not the red brick,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that means any.

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Speaker 3: Listen to the science there, mate, Well, good luck on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: All the best in the election.

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Speaker 1: And if when I'll lose, you've got the Sharks on

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Speaker 1: Sunday versus the Titans up.

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Speaker 3: Against the Titans up there on the Gold Coast. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: two more points for us. But now big decision for

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Speaker 3: Austrainans tomorrow. Thanks for the opportunity of chat today. I've

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Speaker 3: got a lot we can achieve in the years ahead.

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Speaker 3: There's and particularly on their home buyers. Can I just

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Speaker 3: mention that one last time, if you vote for Liberals

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Speaker 3: and Nationals, you will be able to get access to

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Speaker 3: your superannuation to help you buy a home. And when

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Speaker 3: you sell your house down the track, you put the

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Speaker 3: money back in your superannuation to preserve your retirement savings.

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Speaker 3: Label will never let you do it. The only way

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Speaker 3: you'll get accedent to your super is by voting Liberal

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Speaker 3: and National.

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Speaker 4: Now I don't know, I don't know who. How you

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Speaker 4: police people putting that money back in thirty years from now,

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Speaker 4: I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Well, it would happen probably win about eight to ten years,

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Speaker 3: because that's when people usually.

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Speaker 4: And will you police putting that money back in?

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Speaker 3: It's done by the Australian Taxation Office. That's how these

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Speaker 3: things already work.

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Speaker 4: And even if the government changed so and also we

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Speaker 4: have to assume that prices continue to go up.

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Speaker 3: Well that's pretty much betting the experience I think, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean you and I probably bought ours is thirty

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Speaker 3: years co amander, and I know the one we bought

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Speaker 3: was worth a lot more today than it was when

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Speaker 3: we first bought it.

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Speaker 2: That's true, all right.

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Speaker 4: We Australians rent nice to see some rental support as well,

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Speaker 4: but anyway, Prime Minister's being very nice to talk to

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Speaker 4: you today.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Amanda, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yes,