Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land.
Speaker 2: Hi guys, and we'll welcome back to another episode of
Speaker 2: Life on Cut.
Speaker 3: I'm Brittany and I'm Laura, and wait, I really want
Speaker 3: to know who actually set their alarms at five am
Speaker 3: this morning?
Speaker 4: Not me.
Speaker 3: We did say, if you listen to ask gunkat, we
Speaker 3: did bread crumb that we have some big news on
Speaker 3: today's episode, and so we told you to set your
Speaker 3: alarms at five am, and there were Look, the debate entered,
Speaker 3: the chat as to whether a five am or a
Speaker 3: six am release was a good idea, and a lot
Speaker 3: of you think five.
Speaker 1: Am is the way to go. So it's the new
Speaker 1: lay of the land.
Speaker 5: Everyone, Yeah, I will say message received, Okay, five am
Speaker 5: is the new time. We did not get a single
Speaker 5: message of someone saying, no, I prefer it released at six.
Speaker 5: We did get many saying please release it at five o'clock.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So we do have some big news today to share.
Speaker 3: And if you want to speculate, like now's your time speculate,
Speaker 3: you've probably got about fifteen minutes before we tell you
Speaker 3: what that news is.
Speaker 4: There already has been a lot of speculation. What have
Speaker 4: some of them been a lot of people think that
Speaker 4: I'm already married.
Speaker 2: Oh, A lot.
Speaker 4: Of people think that I got married secretly, which I understand.
Speaker 3: Why can I say not one person message me a speculation.
Speaker 3: Everyone messaged you, all messaged life on card, but no
Speaker 3: one speculated about me. Yep, They're like, Laura's not mess
Speaker 3: that'd be just got nothing going on.
Speaker 2: There were some two speculations too.
Speaker 3: I got actually I got a merch one. Yeah, merch
Speaker 3: when you merch with all things.
Speaker 1: That we should have done, Yeah, but unfortunately not.
Speaker 4: There were some speculations that I wasn't coming back from Italy.
Speaker 2: I got that. I thought that I was one way ticket.
Speaker 6: Wouldn't do that to you guys.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be like, mate, you will get some morning.
Speaker 3: I don't doubt that it's going to happen though soon.
Speaker 4: I do understand why the speculation came that I was married. Firstly,
Speaker 4: I was trialing, like what size wedding ring I wanted.
Speaker 4: So I was putting different bands on my engagement finger to.
Speaker 2: See like what would fit and what looks good.
Speaker 4: And I was practicing and I forgot to take them
Speaker 4: off for a while, and some of you, like hawk Eyes,
Speaker 4: saw that I had another ring on, so I understand
Speaker 4: why it does.
Speaker 2: Look like I was wearing a wedding ring.
Speaker 4: Also, Ben's photos were inverted, you know how if you
Speaker 4: can take a photo, sometimes it flips it. So Ben
Speaker 4: wears a ring on his right hand, but it made
Speaker 4: it look like he had on his left, so it
Speaker 4: did look like we ran away in a lope.
Speaker 3: Guys, we have a podcast. We would share with you everything.
Speaker 3: We don't keep any of our personal lives to ourselves,
Speaker 3: like don't.
Speaker 6: But also, my wedding is not a secret.
Speaker 3: Britt is not getting married without us telling you every
Speaker 3: single detail. At some point, I don't know, We're not
Speaker 3: going to tell you live because you know, no, there's
Speaker 3: got to be some secrets, just but they're always delayed
Speaker 3: secrets we tell you very soon.
Speaker 4: But they're the speculations. So we are going to tell
Speaker 4: you in what do you reckon twenty minutes?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. We're like, who knows? Just keep listening, guys.
Speaker 2: Do you not get one speculation?
Speaker 1: Nothing about nothing? People are like, no, no, what are
Speaker 1: they going to speculate about?
Speaker 3: People like Laula slept through the night, She slept in
Speaker 3: her own bedding.
Speaker 5: Fairy came back well, the only speculation I received was
Speaker 5: because I went to a wedding on in New Zealand
Speaker 5: over the weekend and I got messages.
Speaker 6: Asking where Delilah was if both of us were away.
Speaker 6: I get that a lot too. The only speculation I received.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's speculation.
Speaker 3: That's just pure concerned people like Dalilah's only two mums
Speaker 3: in the world have left the country.
Speaker 5: I'll put your minds at ease. She was with my
Speaker 5: mum and then came and picked her up. That was
Speaker 5: the only kind of Yeah, I got nothing as well.
Speaker 5: Are we the boring ones of it? Everyone just expects
Speaker 5: everything exciting to come from brit I think that.
Speaker 3: We're the predictable ones. That's the problem, although you shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty impulsive.
Speaker 2: Should we talk about the elephant in the room?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So look, before we do get to the
Speaker 3: big news, we want to talk about the two pays
Speaker 3: taken over. You all know about the clip in Fringe.
Speaker 3: Keisha is a big fan of the clip in Fringe.
Speaker 3: She vibed it on Vibes and unsubscribed. She wears it
Speaker 3: often and it is like it's kind of like flirting
Speaker 3: with the person that you think you want to be,
Speaker 3: but you don't want to commit. So every so often
Speaker 3: Kish comes in and it's a clip in fringe day.
Speaker 6: It's a really good.
Speaker 5: If your hair is dirty, it's really good. If like me,
Speaker 5: I get botox and I haven't had it for like
Speaker 5: six or seven months.
Speaker 2: It covers the forehead.
Speaker 5: I just feel as though I feel a lot more
Speaker 5: creative and I kind of feel a bit.
Speaker 2: More artsy, and I feel artsy.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we walk in today into the studio and there
Speaker 3: is Brittan Hockley, first proper record back from holidays in Italy,
Speaker 3: wearing a lovely red top which does look very Italian.
Speaker 3: You could be in Positano right now with the most
Speaker 3: aggressive two pay clip in fringe you have seen, and
Speaker 3: it looks great.
Speaker 2: Calling it a Topez, it's a wispy fridge.
Speaker 6: I feel like Donald Trump. It's not a tie.
Speaker 1: She's also orange.
Speaker 2: I'm not got no sign in Italy.
Speaker 4: Okay, So when Kishi got her fringe, we all actually
Speaker 4: got a fringe. Laura Shock, I think leftoes on top
Speaker 4: of a car and flew off on the Humborbridge.
Speaker 5: No, no, let me tell you, Keisha Nessi's in the corner, laughing.
Speaker 6: She knows it's true.
Speaker 2: Everything ends up on your car flying off.
Speaker 1: Do you know what actually happened?
Speaker 3: Keisha handed me the clip in fringe, and like, the
Speaker 3: reason why I'll never do a clip in fringe is because,
Speaker 3: like in the morning, I have a shower, I get
Speaker 3: ready for work, and I do one hairstyle which is
Speaker 3: slicked bad.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say you with a slick back, and
Speaker 6: the fringe would not work.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I do.
Speaker 3: So like the effort that I would have to do
Speaker 3: to make sure that I had dried, neat hair in
Speaker 3: order to do the fringe is a level of effort
Speaker 3: I don't have and can't comprehend. But Keisha gave me
Speaker 3: the fringe. I put it in the door of my car.
Speaker 3: That was eight months ago.
Speaker 1: It is still in the door of my car.
Speaker 4: And Keisha gave me my fridge when I had orange hair,
Speaker 4: so I was never able to wear it. So I've
Speaker 4: gone back now and I finally wore. Can I tell
Speaker 4: you how upset I was. I had big plans for
Speaker 4: this fringe. This fringe was going on an Italian tour
Speaker 4: and I got there on day one in Milan, and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: The fringe screams Milan forgot it.
Speaker 4: Forgot to pack my fringe to Italy, and I was
Speaker 4: so it wasn't rational how upset I was.
Speaker 2: I was so upset to Ben Ben like, what's wrong?
Speaker 2: I was like, I forgot my fringe. He was thank fuck.
Speaker 6: He hates it. It is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you've ever been through a breakup cositted cutting
Speaker 3: a fringe, which I think every single person has.
Speaker 1: Done, I have done it.
Speaker 2: I love done it.
Speaker 3: I love the fringe, but you usually only love it
Speaker 3: for like a couple of weeks and then it goes
Speaker 3: through that awkward growing out stage. There is a company
Speaker 3: will tag it because, like I said, Keisha's vibed it before,
Speaker 3: who make these great clip in fringes. I am yet
Speaker 3: to be converted, and I do feel like this is
Speaker 3: going to be the time when I was coming to
Speaker 3: the studio wearing crocs and you guys were all like
Speaker 3: you're a loser, and then within six months you were
Speaker 3: all wearing crocs. So I know that in six months time,
Speaker 3: I'm going to come in with a fringe and I'll
Speaker 3: eat my own shit.
Speaker 4: But that is why it is so good, because you're
Speaker 4: not stuck with it. I could not have a fringe
Speaker 4: by the end of this episode.
Speaker 3: Look, this is our first episode back since being on
Speaker 3: Break and Britain. You have been in Italy updates. You've
Speaker 3: also been trying to learn your wedding dance. There's a
Speaker 3: lot been going on in your life.
Speaker 4: Do you know this is so unusual and it's only
Speaker 4: relatable to people that are in a long distance relationship
Speaker 4: or maybe yeah, their partners might work away or you're
Speaker 4: in like the flying fly at whatever it is. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but every single time I go to see Ben, and
Speaker 4: to be fair, this was the longest time apart, so
Speaker 4: we hadn't seen each other since Christmas, basically like the
Speaker 4: first week of January. And I genuinely like we talk
Speaker 4: every day on FaceTime. But if you think of FaceTime,
Speaker 4: you hold a phone up and you see their face.
Speaker 4: I forget what he looks like every time I see him.
Speaker 1: Like find the neck down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm shocked every time, Like I'm literally taken aback.
Speaker 4: I get out of the car and I'm like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I forget what you look like.
Speaker 2: I forget how tall you are, I forget how you feel.
Speaker 4: I forget like it's like rediscovering each other again every time.
Speaker 4: I'm not mad about it, but it always takes me
Speaker 4: by surprise where I'm like, oh, that's right, Like you're
Speaker 4: a real human that I can touch, because I feel
Speaker 4: like I'm in a relationship with an AI robot half
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: But he's changed, Like it's really weird.
Speaker 4: I think when you're seeing someone every day, you don't
Speaker 4: notice changes. And yeah, So he plays for his new
Speaker 4: team in Italy now and for anyone that doesn't know football,
Speaker 4: the team he's in now or the league he's in,
Speaker 4: is like one of the best leagues in the world.
Speaker 4: It is so professional and so strict.
Speaker 2: I don't know what stricts.
Speaker 4: The word, but it's just different to anything he's ever done.
Speaker 4: So the training is so intense and everything's so serious. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and so he trains so much more than ever and
Speaker 4: he's always been very dedicated. But you should see the
Speaker 4: Kardashian booty on this guy. I have never seen a
Speaker 4: squat booty because he has to work.
Speaker 2: Bro, it's all I could look at. I was like,
Speaker 2: let me feel that, and it was like I could
Speaker 2: put a drink on it. He's got this huge muscly bubble.
Speaker 4: Butt thing, and I'm like, I love what's happening, but
Speaker 4: it's just such a weird concept to I don't know
Speaker 4: how to explain it. I don't know if I'm explaining
Speaker 4: it right, but to look at someone that you are,
Speaker 4: I'm getting married to him, like I love him and
Speaker 4: I'm rediscovering him every time.
Speaker 3: You literally walked in and said Ben has a massive ass. Yeah,
Speaker 3: got a huge but it is in the best possible wedding.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it came from.
Speaker 5: Should we get then to do that photo shoot that
Speaker 5: Kim d with the champagne glass on his butt, you
Speaker 5: know how it's like squirting over her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kim Kardashian is such a Kim though, like going
Speaker 3: from having like, you know, a little buttshelf to having
Speaker 3: no butt like and I feel like it just happens
Speaker 3: so rapidly.
Speaker 4: To be fair, and I don't reckon that that photo
Speaker 4: of her with the champagne on the butt that has
Speaker 4: to have been like enhanced.
Speaker 1: Oh it was, yeah, Yeah, they do is in hands?
Speaker 3: It was they are in Hands's been that was unpacked
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Okay, moving forward, why didn't want to call someone out
Speaker 4: without knowing for sure.
Speaker 2: That's how I am.
Speaker 1: You know, Britney's really abreast of all the pop colch.
Speaker 6: Defamation in Australia.
Speaker 4: Really just wanted to allegedly, allegedly keep cut ash spot
Speaker 4: in that photo was enhanced.
Speaker 2: Do you like the dump truck ass?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had amazing sex, so that wasn't the question.
Speaker 4: I think everyone thinks that when you're in a long
Speaker 4: distance relationship that when you see each other again that
Speaker 4: it's just like intense so much sex every single day
Speaker 4: is absolutely not like the first two days a fire flame,
Speaker 4: but you just go back to normal sex like couple
Speaker 4: of days and because it's normal life, right, like you
Speaker 4: got your tie, you get like jig training. But the
Speaker 4: first sex was reminiscent of the first time we ever met,
Speaker 4: you know how I said, it was like Hollywood movie
Speaker 4: sex on our first night stand. It was like picking
Speaker 4: up I had somewhere to see it becau sudden his
Speaker 4: butt like he was putting on his shelf. But it
Speaker 4: was it was really really nice, and it was special
Speaker 4: because we got to spend it with Sherry and Jay
Speaker 4: and baby Maya came over and so we had like
Speaker 4: a really nice little family reunion.
Speaker 6: It was cool.
Speaker 4: It's so much nicer to visit now than Romania. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like when I was in Romania it was really hard
Speaker 4: because I didn't feel like I could walk around by
Speaker 4: myself when Ben's away or working.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel safe a lot of the time. And
Speaker 2: in Italy it was just different.
Speaker 4: I was very comfortable exploring on my own and just
Speaker 4: going to restaurants and cafes on my own and doing
Speaker 4: things like that. So I hope he stays there more
Speaker 4: long term. I could see myself there more than I
Speaker 4: could see myself in Romania, like I was never going
Speaker 4: to live with Dracula.
Speaker 3: Ever, what happens with his contracts now? So he is
Speaker 3: obviously on a short term contract in Italy. When is
Speaker 3: the contract period and what is the hopes? Is it
Speaker 3: so that next year he gets a long term one
Speaker 3: and is based in Italy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the decision basically will be this June July.
Speaker 4: So that's when every transfer window for every footballer is
Speaker 4: and that is when he will hopefully sign, hopefully a
Speaker 4: long term contract where he is, but if not, wherever
Speaker 4: he goes will be the next big contract.
Speaker 2: So that is the decision where we both want to
Speaker 2: make sure that.
Speaker 4: I could be happy to be there, because obviously I
Speaker 4: hopefully will have a family in the coming years, and
Speaker 4: I want to make sure that it's somewhere that I
Speaker 4: would want to be.
Speaker 3: But also he's not going to sign somewhere like, for example, Romania.
Speaker 3: Well it's a place that you didn't feel as though
Speaker 3: it could be home for you as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a joint decision this time. Yeah, obviously it's
Speaker 2: what's best for his career, Like his career is important,
Speaker 2: but family is important as.
Speaker 4: Well, and you're feeling safe as well, feeling safe wanting
Speaker 4: to visit. You know, it's obviously an expensive relationship. I
Speaker 4: don't want to have to travel the whole time, Like,
Speaker 4: we want to spend more time together and less time traveling.
Speaker 4: So where he moves is like the biggest decision we
Speaker 4: will make. Yeah, so this is a really big year
Speaker 4: for us. Big decisions obviously getting married, choosing what last
Speaker 4: name I'm going to have, and choosing where Ben's going
Speaker 4: to spend the next couple of years.
Speaker 2: What have you guys been up to?
Speaker 5: That's very exciting. I went to New Zealand over our
Speaker 5: little break for one of my actually two of my
Speaker 5: wonderful friend's weddings. We went and spent some time in
Speaker 5: Queenstown and in Warnica. But I want to ask you guys,
Speaker 5: because something happened on our way to the airport, and
Speaker 5: I think it was one of those moments where I
Speaker 5: had that realization. You know how with a lot of things,
Speaker 5: it's like one person in the relationship is A and
Speaker 5: the other person in the relationship is B, and they
Speaker 5: always end.
Speaker 3: Up to I have never had content blow up in
Speaker 3: the same way. So Matt and I made it reel
Speaker 3: quite a while ago, and it was like the two
Speaker 3: types of people when it comes to a dishwasher. So
Speaker 3: the people who like stack a dishwasher perfectly, which is Matt,
Speaker 3: Like Matt does the dishwasher like it's a game of Tetris.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is immaculate Scandinavian architecture.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then there's me and I just kind of throw
Speaker 3: it all in and it gets washed. Every so often
Speaker 3: there's a ball flipped up the wrong way, you just
Speaker 3: tip that one out put it in the next cycle.
Speaker 2: I'm a thrower too.
Speaker 3: And Vanessa Vanessa, who is our video editor who also
Speaker 3: was my housemate for many years, is looking at me like,
Speaker 3: you fuckhead is looking at me like I hate you
Speaker 3: and I hated living with you. The amount of passive
Speaker 3: aggressive text I would receive.
Speaker 2: No, but it's true then the way who packed the
Speaker 2: dishrusher today?
Speaker 8: Laura?
Speaker 2: But there was somebody Laura.
Speaker 3: Do you know there was this one time when Ne's
Speaker 3: just collected all of the empty toilet paper rolls that
Speaker 3: were in the bathroom and put them in my bed.
Speaker 1: I think that's.
Speaker 5: Passive aggressive, that's flat aggressive, and I love it.
Speaker 4: No, when I go to Laura's house still now I
Speaker 4: have to bring my own toilet paper because you.
Speaker 1: Will go into the toilet, never toilet.
Speaker 2: There is never toilet paper anywhere. I'm like, how is
Speaker 2: there a house of five people here? What are you
Speaker 2: wiping your butts with?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Do you know why? Because there is toilet paper, it's
Speaker 1: just in the cupboard.
Speaker 3: But we have two kids and also Matt, so like
Speaker 3: none of them replaced the role when the role gets empty.
Speaker 3: So it's not until you're sitting on the toilet.
Speaker 2: No I do.
Speaker 1: I just don't go as often as they seem to.
Speaker 3: But it's not until I am sitting on the toilet
Speaker 3: and I'm like, there's no toilet paper here, I will
Speaker 3: shuffle across and go and get a roll. But the
Speaker 3: problem is is I never take the cardboard empty roll
Speaker 3: off into the bin. I just kind of put it
Speaker 3: on the floor and then put the other one on.
Speaker 3: So like I am part of the problem.
Speaker 1: I'm well aware.
Speaker 3: But anyway, there's two types of people, people who do
Speaker 3: things correctly and people who don't.
Speaker 1: And I fall into the don't.
Speaker 5: I think I fall into the dot in most things,
Speaker 5: although I do replace a toilet roll. But for us,
Speaker 5: it was Anzac Day, so it was Friday morning, and
Speaker 5: our flight was the really early one, so six fifteen
Speaker 5: was the time it took off. Checking clothes is at
Speaker 5: five point fifteen, right, So we had a conversation the
Speaker 5: night before and it was the whole like, what time
Speaker 5: do we need to set the alarm? Yeah?
Speaker 2: How long do we need to get there?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, International fly And I was like, look, we
Speaker 5: don't leave that far from the airport. You know, it's
Speaker 5: so early in the morning, there's not going to be traffic,
Speaker 5: the airport won't.
Speaker 1: Be busy, it'll be fine.
Speaker 5: I give myself just enough time, like not a minute
Speaker 5: more than what I think, And because I value sleep
Speaker 5: and I want to as much sleep as I possibly
Speaker 5: can get. So Friday morning comes around, the alarm goes
Speaker 5: off at four. We get up, quick shower, get dressed,
Speaker 5: go to order the uber sans ac day.
Speaker 1: There's no ubers.
Speaker 5: There weren't as many who bus as I was expecting
Speaker 5: because people are getting.
Speaker 2: Them to dawn services.
Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, okay, that's slightly concerning. Anyway,
Speaker 5: as the times ticking along and we're still waiting, you know,
Speaker 5: trying to connect you to a driver, trying to connect you,
Speaker 5: my boyfriend was getting more and more and more stressed.
Speaker 5: We eventually get an Uber. We get to the airport.
Speaker 5: He is at the point where he is like heart palpitations.
Speaker 5: I can see the vein in his next up pulsing,
Speaker 5: like he's really starting to freak out that we are
Speaker 5: not going to make check in.
Speaker 6: And I've realized.
Speaker 5: Over the course of time that I am the worst
Speaker 5: person in these situations, because not only do I keep
Speaker 5: on pushing it further and further and further to the
Speaker 5: deadline of this is check in, I keep on having
Speaker 5: things happen where it reinforces that it's actually a fantastic
Speaker 5: thing to do. Because when we got to the airport,
Speaker 5: we had about probably ten minutes until check in was
Speaker 5: properly going to close.
Speaker 6: This fly well, what happens if there's a line?
Speaker 1: You know what happens if there's all these other people?
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: He was freaking out. We get there, we did not
Speaker 5: have to wait for a single person, so we just
Speaker 5: walked straight up to the counter. It was the quickest
Speaker 5: check in I have ever had. It was the quickest
Speaker 5: run through security.
Speaker 2: We got to the gate.
Speaker 1: You know what happened.
Speaker 5: As soon as we got to the gate, they said boarding.
Speaker 6: Is about to start.
Speaker 5: If you were in rows one to fifteen, can you
Speaker 5: please come to the front of the plane. And I
Speaker 5: looked at him and I just went, you.
Speaker 2: Can't risk that, though, that's the problem.
Speaker 6: You can.
Speaker 5: So my question is, before an international flight, are you
Speaker 5: the person who turns up three hours before or are
Speaker 5: you the person who turns up with five minutes to
Speaker 5: go to check in until you will not be allowed
Speaker 5: to board the plane anymore.
Speaker 3: I think the problem is, though it depends on if
Speaker 3: you're traveling with someone else, because it's okay to do
Speaker 3: it to yourself. I am also Yukish I am a
Speaker 3: last minute galley, and I'm sure that comes the pest.
Speaker 3: He's not replacing the toilet paper roll is also not
Speaker 3: getting to the airport on time. But I'm like, so
Speaker 3: long as I'm there just before boarding for a domestic,
Speaker 3: so long as I'm there just before boarding him an international, fine.
Speaker 3: But my mum drilled into me as a kid three
Speaker 3: hours mate. She was like four hours. We would be
Speaker 3: there before checking even open, just to wait at the airport.
Speaker 4: So you've got to think when we grew up, it
Speaker 4: was different because you didn't have as quick a like
Speaker 4: entering too everything. The lineups were longer, the systems weren't
Speaker 4: as quick, so you would get there three hours before
Speaker 4: and you needed those three hours. But I'm like a
Speaker 4: mix now, I'm both. I will turn up with enough time,
Speaker 4: but I'll still be the person that gets called on
Speaker 4: the overhead. So I'll be there for two hours, sitting
Speaker 4: there at a cafe, and then I just lose track
Speaker 4: of the time and then they're like, final call, Britney.
Speaker 4: So I've been there with all the time in the world,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what like the number of times Sherry
Speaker 4: and I have done that where we've been like sleeping
Speaker 4: on a cafe, reading a book, like just chilling out
Speaker 4: with so much time, and then we get a final
Speaker 4: call and we are running.
Speaker 2: Through the airport.
Speaker 5: But do you think that couples, like do you think
Speaker 5: that one of you is one way and the other
Speaker 5: is the other way and it always causes complict.
Speaker 3: I actually think that most of the time, we're attracted
Speaker 3: to people who have those slightly different traits to us,
Speaker 3: Like Matt is the organized one in our relationship and
Speaker 3: I am the chaotic one. But you kind of can't
Speaker 3: have two chaotic people in a relationship together or shit
Speaker 3: just constantly goes wrong. And I think that that is
Speaker 3: kind of a relatively normal relationship dynamic. It's not because
Speaker 3: I actually don't necessarily agree with the whole opposites attract,
Speaker 3: but I think we have complimentary behaviors, Like you might
Speaker 3: have someone who's a little bit more risk taking, a
Speaker 3: little bit more extroverted, and those qualities work together. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Matt is the admin person in our household and I
Speaker 3: am the like, well, tell me about to be.
Speaker 1: And I'll be there, but I'll bring a good time.
Speaker 5: There was one time, actually, and I was just thinking
Speaker 5: when we were kind of we went through a couple
Speaker 5: of minutes where he was a bit pissed off with me,
Speaker 5: where he was like, I know that it's worked out
Speaker 5: this time, but there will be a time that it
Speaker 5: doesn't work out, and that smug little smile on your
Speaker 5: face is gonna vanish.
Speaker 1: Either day will come where you're miss a plane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've missed a plane.
Speaker 3: The problem is is I once dated a guy who
Speaker 3: also was the type of person who was just shrouded
Speaker 3: in chaos, and he would also push things to the
Speaker 3: very nth degree. And we had a transfer to get
Speaker 3: from Lax back to Sydney, and we missed our flight
Speaker 3: because we were both disorganized. And the solution to that
Speaker 3: was that we stayed in La two days and we
Speaker 3: went to Disneyland. So actually worked out fine.
Speaker 6: Fantastic solution.
Speaker 1: It was fine.
Speaker 3: It's all a big plot, all right, everybody. The time
Speaker 3: has come. So now I'm worried that people are going
Speaker 3: to be disappointed when so many people ask for live
Speaker 3: shows emerged.
Speaker 1: It's not actually podcasts related.
Speaker 2: No, all right, we already have Merched.
Speaker 3: It's still on the website, but it's not new Merched,
Speaker 3: you know. And also it's not like new live shows,
Speaker 3: which I know. We look, guys, we were planning them,
Speaker 3: and maybe there's a spanner, so we'll see. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: did have big plans for the live show. All right,
Speaker 3: let's put.
Speaker 2: This to bed. I in fact can confirm I am
Speaker 2: not secretly married, not yet. No.
Speaker 5: I can confirm that Britain and I am not entering
Speaker 5: a romantic relationship.
Speaker 3: I can also confirm else, can we not confirm or
Speaker 3: confirm that it's not happening?
Speaker 2: Live shows?
Speaker 1: Live shows, merch.
Speaker 2: I didn't secretly move Italy, I'm back.
Speaker 1: Was there anything else that came through?
Speaker 5: I haven't stolen Delilah and made her go through a
Speaker 5: forced custody.
Speaker 3: Arrangement and the dummy fairy did come and it hasn't
Speaker 3: worked out as well as I thought it would.
Speaker 1: So like, that's also not the big news.
Speaker 2: All right, let's put everyone out of their misery.
Speaker 3: But the big news is, so you guys know that
Speaker 3: Matt and I have been talking a lot about whether
Speaker 3: or not we were gonna have baby number three, and.
Speaker 1: It turns out that we're having babies other.
Speaker 6: Things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, it did work.
Speaker 3: Check chack, che We have giant bottles full of babies.
Speaker 3: I'm pregnant, guys, I am very insane. And it turns
Speaker 3: out that for a very short period Matt and I
Speaker 3: got on the same page about whether we wanted.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's like you, miss well, we've put
Speaker 4: a sash on you, he says, mama to be for
Speaker 4: the third time.
Speaker 2: For the third time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulationous, thanks guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so horctly, no one guessed that. No one speculated that. Well,
Speaker 4: I think that'll hold your bottle.
Speaker 3: I think people do consider whether or not you're insane
Speaker 3: enough to have a third child. Like, the reaction to
Speaker 3: number three is not the same to number one and
Speaker 3: number two. Number one and number two people are thrilled.
Speaker 3: Number three people are confused, And that seems to be
Speaker 3: the overwhelming reaction from everyone.
Speaker 4: No one's going to shock people the most is probably
Speaker 4: not that you're pregnant, but now tell people how far
Speaker 4: along you are.
Speaker 3: So I'm eighteen weeks pregnant. Everybody, even Matt, we were
Speaker 3: talking about it, and even he was shocked because he
Speaker 3: thought it was thirteen weeks. But yeah, like in nearly
Speaker 3: five months, I'm eighteen weeks. Well, no, because it kind
Speaker 3: of it's always interesting with pregnancy because you think four
Speaker 3: weeks is a month, but actually it's not so like
Speaker 3: I eighteen weeks, I'm you know, two weeks shy of halfway.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've been keeping a little secret for quite
Speaker 3: some time.
Speaker 4: You've actually done really well, but you've I think I
Speaker 4: haven't been able to tell it. I don't look like you've
Speaker 4: had a big pasta until probably like the last two
Speaker 4: to three weeks you've really popped well.
Speaker 1: Also, I mean, look, you don't want to hold your baby.
Speaker 1: Sorry for everyone, that was a lot.
Speaker 3: For anyone who wasn't watching this on YouTube or on socials,
Speaker 3: that was probably audibly very hectic. Keysh you organized plastic
Speaker 3: bottles at are full of tiny plastic babies.
Speaker 2: And it was it's not the best for audio.
Speaker 1: And also party poppers, which were great.
Speaker 3: Mine didn't go off, but we've used these party poppers
Speaker 3: before and statistically only fifty percent of the work.
Speaker 5: I'm a bit disappointed in the party popper, to be honest,
Speaker 5: it was great, but not disappointed in the news. I'm
Speaker 5: so excited about the news. Yeah, and I would love
Speaker 5: for you to share, like, how did you and Matt
Speaker 5: kind of come to the decision to have the third
Speaker 5: how did you tell him?
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I feel like I've talked about it
Speaker 3: a little bit. At the beginning of the year, Matt
Speaker 3: and I were not on the same page. He went
Speaker 3: through a period where he wanted to have a third,
Speaker 3: then he decided he didn't want to have a third anymore.
Speaker 3: And then it was like when he made the decision
Speaker 3: he didn't want to. I changed my mind and I
Speaker 3: wanted to, and so we kind of toxic. It took
Speaker 3: so toxic. It was like when he took it away
Speaker 3: from me, I wanted it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving back into the bachelor day.
Speaker 3: And then we did this dance for a while where
Speaker 3: like I wanted it, he didn't, then he wanted it,
Speaker 3: then I didn't. And I kind of put it down
Speaker 3: to any time I was ovulating, I was like baby,
Speaker 3: and then I would not be ovulating.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 3: Anyway, there was a very small window where we were
Speaker 3: both on the same perfec.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what window was that? It didn't help.
Speaker 3: So Christmas, it was Christmas time. Obviously, it's a Christmas miracle.
Speaker 3: And Matt and I, obviously for a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: we were on the same page, and it was it
Speaker 3: was a really small window. But the thing that's even
Speaker 3: funnier is I've actually known for a really long time.
Speaker 3: I found out very early on with this pregnancy. It
Speaker 3: wasn't because I had any pregnancy symptoms, but it was
Speaker 3: because one of my friends had made a comment that
Speaker 3: made me think, oh, maybe I'll just pregnancy test. So
Speaker 3: you guys all know that Matt went and he was
Speaker 3: in the jungle and he was doing I'm a Celebrity.
Speaker 3: So he had just left, and it was two days
Speaker 3: after his phone had been taken away from him, and
Speaker 3: he was non contactabull. I don't even know if you
Speaker 3: guys know this. Actually, I don't think I've told you
Speaker 3: I know this. I don't think I told you the specifics.
Speaker 3: So he'd had his phone taken off him two days
Speaker 3: I'd been without being able to contact him, and I
Speaker 3: wasn't able to contact him the entire time that he
Speaker 3: was in the jungle. So one of my girlfriends was like,
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be funny if you found out you were
Speaker 3: pregnant when he's in there.
Speaker 1: She didn't really know that we were trying, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, oh, that's actually a possibility, and I went
Speaker 3: and bought a full pack of pregnancy tests. And I
Speaker 3: went home and my sister in law, Kate, and my
Speaker 3: mother in law were downstairs taking care of the kids.
Speaker 3: Ro and I have dinner together, and I just so
Speaker 3: casually and so confidently that I wasn't pregnant, walked up
Speaker 3: to the bathroom pete on a stick, like there was
Speaker 3: no consequences to my actions. And then I I sat
Speaker 3: there and I was like doing something, and then I
Speaker 3: looked at the stick and I was like, is that
Speaker 3: a line?
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's true? Is that a line?
Speaker 3: And I walked downstairs and I just said to Kate
Speaker 3: and to Ellie, I was like, guys, sorry to interrupt, you,
Speaker 3: can I just get your eyes on something.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this is a double line.
Speaker 3: Matt's sister and they were like yeah, and they both
Speaker 3: were a bit beside themselves. And then we just had
Speaker 3: to have dinner that night like everything was normal, just
Speaker 3: the girls, just the gals. And then I wasn't able
Speaker 3: to tell Matt for ages, so the whole time he
Speaker 3: was in the jungle, I wasn't able to tell him.
Speaker 3: And then it was really tricky because I didn't want
Speaker 3: to tell him when it was the finale. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to tell him as soon as the show because
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember, but the show
Speaker 3: wasn't filmed live this year, so we were over there.
Speaker 1: We did the finale over there.
Speaker 3: Maybe it now makes sense as to why I so
Speaker 3: desperately wanted his business class to see. I was first trimester,
Speaker 3: vomiting most days and traveling with the two girls by myself.
Speaker 1: Fuck, so I was really struggling to Africa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I took the kids to Africa first time, master
Speaker 3: who don't recommend it, But I didn't want to tell
Speaker 3: him there. And then when we came back, we had
Speaker 3: to wait for the finale because it hadn't aired on
Speaker 3: TV yet, and I didn't want to tell him until
Speaker 3: after all of the excitement and all of the kind
Speaker 3: of craziness of I'm a celebrity had ended. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to a couple of reasons. I didn't want to
Speaker 3: take away from an experience that he was having and
Speaker 3: kind of like experienced top it with another thing. And
Speaker 3: I also wanted him to have some time to process
Speaker 3: what a huge thing he'd just been through. So I
Speaker 3: didn't really know what was the right time to tell him.
Speaker 6: But we waited so long.
Speaker 1: He was mad, I'll make.
Speaker 4: Him it sound like you're like, I'll give him a
Speaker 4: couple of days after finale.
Speaker 6: Tell everyone how long you went?
Speaker 3: So I knew for I knew for two and a
Speaker 3: half months before I told Mad that I was.
Speaker 6: Can you deal?
Speaker 5: How long did you wait from him coming out? Oh,
Speaker 5: I said, a lot of that was out of your control.
Speaker 3: About a fortnight maybe, yeah, about a fortnight until I
Speaker 3: told him that I was pregnant. But it was It
Speaker 3: was tricky because he was not himself, and he was
Speaker 3: having a bit of a hard time post jungle, and
Speaker 3: he wasn't very happy, Like.
Speaker 5: I actually confirmed that, Like we all saw Matt and
Speaker 5: he just didn't seem himself for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was stressed and he was distracted.
Speaker 3: And I think anyone who's ever done a big experience
Speaker 3: like that, when you've put so much mental energy into
Speaker 3: one thing, you come out of it and you just
Speaker 3: spend all your time still thinking about the experience. And
Speaker 3: so I could tell that, yes, he was physically here,
Speaker 3: but his brain was still in the jungle.
Speaker 1: That's all he was thinking about.
Speaker 3: So I was like, I just kind of want to
Speaker 3: give it some space between when that experience ended and
Speaker 3: like telling him something that I don't know how he's
Speaker 3: going to react to, because I knew he was going
Speaker 3: to be really excited about baby number one and baby
Speaker 3: number two, like Lola Amali. But then I kind of
Speaker 3: was a bit worried that maybe because we had fluctuated
Speaker 3: so much on our plans as to whether we were
Speaker 3: going to or not going to, I was worried that
Speaker 3: he was at a point where it wasn't what he
Speaker 3: wanted and so the reaction wasn't gonna be as excited
Speaker 3: or didn't he.
Speaker 4: I don't know what words in your mouth, but just
Speaker 4: from what you've said, didn't something happen just before you
Speaker 4: told him?
Speaker 2: Where he was like, Hey, thank god we decided not
Speaker 2: to baby.
Speaker 3: So it was only a couple of days after, like
Speaker 3: it had finished in Africa, and that said, so I
Speaker 3: take it you're not pregnant, and that was how he
Speaker 3: framed it. And because I wanted to tell him in
Speaker 3: a way that was like a nice surprise, or like
Speaker 3: tell him in a way that a cute wait felt
Speaker 3: a bit more sentimental, I didn't know how to respond
Speaker 3: to it, and so obviously I lied and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, I mean obviously, and then I
Speaker 3: doubled down really hard, and I was like, because I've
Speaker 3: been thinking maybe it's not a great idea, trying to
Speaker 3: throw him off this sense.
Speaker 1: It just came out.
Speaker 3: And then he was like, yeah, I've also been thinking
Speaker 3: maybe it's not a good idea.
Speaker 1: And I was like, fuck, okay, now what I do.
Speaker 3: So that's why I had to wait a while, because
Speaker 3: I was like, I've got to try and tell him
Speaker 3: it was a good idea and get him back on bullboard.
Speaker 3: So anyway, it was like a couple of weeks past
Speaker 3: by then obviously, like his mum and his sister were
Speaker 3: both like you to tell Matt, and my sister also knew,
Speaker 3: so there were a couple of people in our immediate
Speaker 3: family that knew before him. And I ordered these scratches
Speaker 3: online from Amazon, so I don't know if anyone's ever
Speaker 3: seen them.
Speaker 1: They're a gender reveal scratchy.
Speaker 3: Sorry, this is really uncomfortable for your sash looks my
Speaker 3: paper sack right as a baby bottle. So I bought
Speaker 3: these scratches online and there are a hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 3: scratches and one of the icons. You gotta scratch every
Speaker 3: single icon, and one of the icons says we're having
Speaker 3: a baby. Once you get to the icons having icons, though,
Speaker 3: the problem is is I bought the wrong one.
Speaker 6: He thought he got one hundred grand.
Speaker 2: Well, there are some scratches on.
Speaker 3: Amazon that are really good way you scratch them. It's
Speaker 3: just one big icon that says we're having a baby.
Speaker 3: This one was like thirty icons and you had to
Speaker 3: go looking for the we're having a baby one. And
Speaker 3: Matt has a very short attention span. So he got
Speaker 3: three quarters the way through it and he's like, this
Speaker 3: is the fucking worst Scratchy threw it away and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, baby could be one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: Keep going.
Speaker 3: I was like, persevere, keep scratching, keep scratching. And so
Speaker 3: that went on for a good ten minutes of me
Speaker 3: telling him to keep sc acting. He was just getting
Speaker 3: increasingly frustrated.
Speaker 6: It's quite anti climatic.
Speaker 1: Eventually he saw.
Speaker 3: The way having a baby. I'll post the video for
Speaker 3: you guys, because he just looks confused. But luckily one
Speaker 3: of his best friends, Josh, who was also the groomsman
Speaker 3: at our wedding. He was standing right next to Matt,
Speaker 3: and so Matt looks at it and he's like what,
Speaker 3: And then you can tell that it's dawning on him
Speaker 3: that actually we're having a baby. And he hands it
Speaker 3: to Josh, and Josh's reaction is the reaction that you
Speaker 3: would expect from the dad. So Josh was stoked and
Speaker 3: that was really nice's father now. And so Josh and
Speaker 3: I am having a baby? No, and mat is Matt
Speaker 3: is actually so excited.
Speaker 6: I think for your say no, no, no, Matt is actually
Speaker 6: the father.
Speaker 3: And to be fair, I'm ninety percent sure he's also
Speaker 3: the father.
Speaker 6: We need to do a pretend.
Speaker 3: But the thing is is like, I think I just
Speaker 3: managed this in such a weird way, and I think
Speaker 3: off the back of it being I'm a celebrity and everything,
Speaker 3: it was just such a fucking whirlwind of a time
Speaker 3: that I feel bad for him because I think that
Speaker 3: his reaction wasn't how he actually feels. He just kind
Speaker 3: of got set up for a bit of emotional whiplash.
Speaker 4: It is so funny when you have to and I
Speaker 4: think this has happened to so many people when you've.
Speaker 2: Had to tell a white lie, and then you get
Speaker 2: stuck in it.
Speaker 4: You've had to double down all of a sudden, weeks later,
Speaker 4: you've doubled down on this line that like you're not
Speaker 4: pregnant when you're four months pregnant. It's such a weird
Speaker 4: thing to get stuck in where you're like, oh, I
Speaker 4: guess I got to commit now I.
Speaker 1: Was like two and a half months pregnant. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was he had. Does he feel now he's really stoked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's really excited. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I would love to know if anyone else who's had
Speaker 3: a third child felt like this first child we were
Speaker 3: so excited about, Like Marley, we were so excited.
Speaker 1: There was no concept of what's ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we were definitely apprehensive, and there was like,
Speaker 3: you know, anxieties and fears and all those normal feelings
Speaker 3: that's around pregnancy. But we were like just really excited
Speaker 3: about being parents and like this new experience in chapter
Speaker 3: that we're entering together.
Speaker 1: And then Lola.
Speaker 3: When I was pregnant with Lola, it was the same excitement.
Speaker 3: Because Marley was such an easy baby. We always call
Speaker 3: her our unicorn baby because she always lulled us into
Speaker 3: this false sense of how parenting is just so easy.
Speaker 3: And so I had this same level of excitement around
Speaker 3: the time that I was pregnant with Lola. But then
Speaker 3: Lola was like a really quite challenging baby, Like that
Speaker 3: first six weeks especially, I've spoken about it before, but
Speaker 3: I didn't get any sleep. I slept with her strap
Speaker 3: to me, like, it was a really really challenging time
Speaker 3: for me. And it was a fucking wake up call
Speaker 3: around how hard parenting can be. And so I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm going into this one with more meted excitement,
Speaker 3: like it's yeah, but it's like cussed with realism, you know,
Speaker 3: and like a realistic perspective on parenting. So and then
Speaker 3: I feel a little bit guilty because I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: am I supposed to have this like overwhelming.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the miracle of life?
Speaker 3: When actually I just kind of feel a bit more
Speaker 3: pragmatic about this pregnancy. It's a different feeling going from
Speaker 3: two to three.
Speaker 4: But I think that's normal because your experience is different now,
Speaker 4: Like when you're going to have your first child, you
Speaker 4: don't have any other stresses at home. Now you're going
Speaker 4: into a third child with lived experience of both of like.
Speaker 2: An easy baby and a hard baby.
Speaker 4: You also know what it's like to not sleep, but
Speaker 4: now you're having a third baby with two other children
Speaker 4: that take your time, So I think it's probably normal
Speaker 4: for you to feel a bit of I don't know
Speaker 4: if you're feeling anxiety. I don't know what you're feeling,
Speaker 4: but it's normal for it to be a different experience.
Speaker 3: It's like my rose colored glasses around motherhood have been lifted.
Speaker 3: And I think also because we're going from having a
Speaker 3: four and a five year old, no nappies, really self sufficient,
Speaker 3: like are able to do so much for themselves. We
Speaker 3: have great conversations. You know, Laula's studying school next year,
Speaker 3: so we're so out of the trenches of babydom.
Speaker 1: You're going back, and now we're going all the way back.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because people, like I said, people react
Speaker 3: really differently about the third First and second, everyone's super excited,
Speaker 3: and third, especially a lot of other moms, their reaction
Speaker 3: is like, you're fucking crazy. I can't even comprehend having
Speaker 3: a third baby. And I'm not saying it's not common.
Speaker 3: Loads of people have three kids, but it's definitely not
Speaker 3: as common as what it used to be, and I
Speaker 3: think that the perception is not the same, and so
Speaker 3: people's reactions have been like, oh my god, so exciting,
Speaker 3: but you're insane, and so that also kind of changes
Speaker 3: you're I don't know, it casts like a little bit
Speaker 3: of doubt around like was this a good idea?
Speaker 1: Are we crazy?
Speaker 5: Do you feel bad about that?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 5: Like is there I guess these conversations come up every
Speaker 5: time we talk about any expectation that I tend to
Speaker 5: be put on women, and it's like this is supposed
Speaker 5: to be this really overjoyed, and just the only thing
Speaker 5: you're ever supposed to feel in this moment is elation
Speaker 5: and gratitude, and like this is the best thing that
Speaker 5: ever could have happened. And I think that we've come
Speaker 5: a long way in kind of talking about you know,
Speaker 5: we talk about things like gender disappointment now and like
Speaker 5: how sometimes when people have babies, they don't get that
Speaker 5: natural and I'm putting that in quotation marks connection with
Speaker 5: their baby for a couple of weeks or months and
Speaker 5: like it's just not exactly what they expected it to be.
Speaker 5: Is there a part of you that feels like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm not feeling how I may be supposed to feel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I definitely have had a few conversations with
Speaker 3: girlfriends about it that I feel a bit guilty that
Speaker 3: I don't have the same excitement as what I had
Speaker 3: for baby number one and baby number two. And it's
Speaker 3: not because I'm not excited, Like I really don't want
Speaker 3: that to be misconstrued or for anyone to think that
Speaker 3: I'm not grateful, Like, of course I have all those feelings,
Speaker 3: but I have more apprehension about this one for some reason.
Speaker 3: And I think it's just because I know what I'm
Speaker 3: in for. I know it's going to be hard. I've
Speaker 3: done it already. And it's not that it's not joyous
Speaker 3: and all the other fucking amazing things that motherhood is,
Speaker 3: but having really little babies is really challenging, and you
Speaker 3: give up a lot of yourself for that first year
Speaker 3: or two years, you know, to be there and to
Speaker 3: like just the constantness of carrying them around, of like
Speaker 3: constantly having to do everything for them because they can't
Speaker 3: do anything for themselves. There's so much joy in it,
Speaker 3: but it is a very selfless thing that you have
Speaker 3: to do. And I guess life has gotten easy over
Speaker 3: the past couple of years because we have moved out
Speaker 3: of those trenches, and I see it getting easier, and
Speaker 3: I see the kids autonomously playing together, and you know,
Speaker 3: we can sit down for dinner and talk to each other,
Speaker 3: and I know where saying goodbye to all of those
Speaker 3: things that we've regained as a couple, And so part
Speaker 3: of me is a.
Speaker 1: Little bit like, oh, oh my god.
Speaker 3: And it is interesting to me that people feel so
Speaker 3: okay with telling you that you're insane, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's very rare that no one's ever going to say
Speaker 3: to you when you have your first baby, you're crazy,
Speaker 3: But people are very very happy to say it about
Speaker 3: the third child. And so I think other people's reactions
Speaker 3: to it have kind of made me be like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's an interesting Everything about this has felt different to
Speaker 3: one and two everything.
Speaker 4: I know loads of people, like loads of my friends
Speaker 4: have three kids, so yeah, I wouldn't let it bother you.
Speaker 1: I know loads of people who have had three kids too.
Speaker 3: It's not like I'm not saying it's not common, and
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's like so bizarre or weird,
Speaker 3: but I'm saying there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: That choose to not move beyond to I also wonder.
Speaker 5: If it's because the gap between Marley and Lawla is
Speaker 5: quite small, and then the gap with this third baby
Speaker 5: is larger. And I kind of thought you'd put a
Speaker 5: bowl on that and gone, yeah, that, like, this is
Speaker 5: our family, this is how.
Speaker 1: It's going to be.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I've spoken with you a lot about you thinking
Speaker 5: about having a third for probably two years now, long
Speaker 5: inter conversation, but I really would love to know how
Speaker 5: Lola and Marley may reacted.
Speaker 3: I waited pretty long to tell the girls for a
Speaker 3: couple of reasons. So I didn't want to tell them
Speaker 3: and have them telling everyone like.
Speaker 2: How Marley did with mimislib everyone.
Speaker 3: So like the kids have no filter, and they of
Speaker 3: course not, you know, they are so excited they're going
Speaker 3: to go to school, like Marley's been telling random people
Speaker 3: in the park.
Speaker 1: Actually she might even be listening.
Speaker 3: There was a woman who was a lifer who I
Speaker 3: met done in a La Dullah. We were at the
Speaker 3: park together and Marley just was like, my mom's got
Speaker 3: a baby in her belly.
Speaker 4: So my friend came up to me last week. I've
Speaker 4: told no one like I take this, you know, very seriously.
Speaker 4: My friend come up to me and she goes, so
Speaker 4: I heard, there's a baby, and I was like, sorry,
Speaker 4: what playing dumb? She's like you know, and I was
Speaker 4: like who.
Speaker 2: They were like ah, and I was like, how did
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 4: She goes, well, my friend was at the park with
Speaker 4: her daughter, and she's like, and she's pregnant. Her friend's pregnant,
Speaker 4: and so her friend's daughter was just at the park
Speaker 4: to a random which that to be Maley, and the
Speaker 4: little girl's like, my mommy has a baby in her belly,
Speaker 4: and Molly goes, so does my mom, And so that
Speaker 4: daughter when.
Speaker 2: Told the random woman, the woman told my friend and.
Speaker 3: My friend on me and I was in the park
Speaker 3: at the time, and I remember this unfolding because this
Speaker 3: other pregnant lady turned around and she was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, you're pregnant. And I was like, look, if
Speaker 3: it was ever going to get out to media, I
Speaker 3: know the leak came from Molly Maye.
Speaker 1: She was so excited she told.
Speaker 3: She literally called the Daily Mail and was like, my
Speaker 3: mom's having a baby printed on page one.
Speaker 5: It's also the type of thing you don't want to
Speaker 5: tell her that it's this big secret because you don't
Speaker 5: want to make her feel as though it's not something
Speaker 5: to be super excited about.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: That's a hard situation to navigate totally. And also so
Speaker 3: we told the girls. You know, Molly's a little bit older.
Speaker 3: She's been saying for ages that she wants a baby's sister,
Speaker 3: like she's been warning like another sibling La was not enough.
Speaker 5: She's like, I want a new one Lola return exchange.
Speaker 3: I knew that Lola wouldn't be excited, like I knew
Speaker 3: that she wouldn't Her first reaction wouldn't be excitement because
Speaker 3: Lola is initial comprehension of being like, oh, Mommy's having
Speaker 3: a baby, is I have to share Mommy? And I'm
Speaker 3: like her favorite person in the world. She doesn't want
Speaker 3: to share me with anyone. If I'm like cuddling Marley,
Speaker 3: if I'm cuddling Dad, like whatever, she gets super jealous.
Speaker 3: So I am a bit worried about how she's going
Speaker 3: to be when the baby comes along. But I also
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be good for her because.
Speaker 6: It's a dog.
Speaker 2: They're going to react.
Speaker 6: I don't know how she's.
Speaker 1: Gonna just like a child.
Speaker 3: So this is us telling the girls Hopefully you can
Speaker 3: hear the reaction from both. I guess what mommy is.
Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you to guess.
Speaker 1: We're not getting it once to track.
Speaker 7: Guse what we're going to get.
Speaker 1: We're getting ale, we're.
Speaker 4: Not getting.
Speaker 8: What do you think we're getting?
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think?
Speaker 4: Cloud?
Speaker 2: It's something very special something they you guys will.
Speaker 1: Get to keep a cuddle to.
Speaker 7: No guys, Okay, I'll give you a clue.
Speaker 4: It's in mummy.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, yess what she said.
Speaker 2: I'm getting out of here. I'm getting out of here. Actually,
Speaker 2: I'm getting out of here.
Speaker 7: I'm gone, I'm getting out of here.
Speaker 6: Action, No, are you excited? She actually left?
Speaker 2: She left the building.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm getting out of here actually, and she's
Speaker 3: stormed off.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she's the properest child.
Speaker 3: She's mate. Yeah, personality higher.
Speaker 5: I would really like to get a bracelet, says WWLD.
Speaker 6: And it means what would Lola do?
Speaker 3: So same, that's our next merch. So I went upstairs
Speaker 3: to Lola afterwards. She was really upset. She went and
Speaker 3: had time outlocked us up in the room, and I
Speaker 3: went up and I opened the door and I sat
Speaker 3: down on the bed and I said, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Are you okay?
Speaker 3: And she just started crying and she said, I don't
Speaker 3: want to share, Mummy. She said, you then you're gonna
Speaker 3: love a little baby and you're not gonna love me.
Speaker 3: And that was her instant reaction was around feeling as
Speaker 3: though I have to spread myself between both children, like
Speaker 3: more children.
Speaker 2: Three there'll be three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, three children?
Speaker 2: How the kids?
Speaker 5: Right up?
Speaker 1: That was really sweet, Like that was really hard.
Speaker 2: Has she come around now?
Speaker 3: She's completely come around, so much so that I have
Speaker 3: one more bit of audio that I want to play
Speaker 3: you guys, so much so that like I found a
Speaker 3: video in my phone.
Speaker 1: So this is like a fear of mine.
Speaker 3: My children watch me speak on Instagram and they will
Speaker 3: copy me.
Speaker 1: Obviously they don't know what Instagram is.
Speaker 3: They have no understanding that the social media, but they
Speaker 3: think like mummy's talking to the phone, someone on the phone.
Speaker 3: So every so often, Molly and Lola they will take
Speaker 3: my phone. They will open the camera and they will
Speaker 3: video record themselves just chatting away about their day.
Speaker 1: It's like they're doing their own minivlogs.
Speaker 3: But they don't go anywhere right literally, so Lala was
Speaker 3: running around with my phone. I was like, okay, cute,
Speaker 3: and so I opened my phone to watch this video
Speaker 3: that she'd gone and taken on her own. And this
Speaker 3: is what made me realize that everything is going to
Speaker 3: be okay.
Speaker 1: So apart from the fact that my child wants to
Speaker 1: be on TikTok.
Speaker 8: Hi anyone, I got a baby in my mom's tummy
Speaker 8: and I saw exciting to get it out, so so
Speaker 8: so excited. So how was your job secret?
Speaker 6: I have it, I don't done.
Speaker 3: So so so so so excited.
Speaker 8: So I leave my kid to get a baby out.
Speaker 8: It's coming out to day, not really, but I really
Speaker 8: want the baby comes out, but shut and the baby
Speaker 8: comes out, but it's not coming out.
Speaker 6: She sounds that I really love it. But now I'm gone, gone.
Speaker 2: I'm having trouble following.
Speaker 6: But I got that she's excited, excited.
Speaker 3: There's a baby in my tummy. It's coming out today
Speaker 3: but not really coming out. But it's not yet it's gone.
Speaker 5: But what I'm hearing is that there has been a
Speaker 5: shift and it's been im not being excited to be
Speaker 5: very very excited.
Speaker 3: The kids are so stoved. They're both really excited. Marley
Speaker 3: wants it to be a boy. Lola wants it to
Speaker 3: be a girl.
Speaker 2: Oh so someone's going to be disappointed.
Speaker 3: Someone's going to be disappointed. But I kind of wanted
Speaker 3: to have I mean, we'll talk about gender in a bit,
Speaker 3: but I really wanted to talk about the other thing
Speaker 3: that happens when you have three kids, that you have
Speaker 3: two of the same gender, is that everyone expects you're
Speaker 3: going for a third for a boy. So everyone who
Speaker 3: I've spoken to is like, oh, what do you want
Speaker 3: a boy? And that's been like the assumption, And I
Speaker 3: really want to say, like, you look, Matt and I
Speaker 3: are slightly different on it. I think Matt would like
Speaker 3: a boy, Like we've had conversations, and I think if
Speaker 3: he had a preference, he would say a change of
Speaker 3: scenery would be nice.
Speaker 1: And I think he's.
Speaker 3: Always envisaged himself as having a boy. That's his version
Speaker 3: of fatherhood that he kind of pictured. However, for me,
Speaker 3: I do not care, like I don't want to have
Speaker 3: a third child because I want a specific gender. I
Speaker 3: want a third child because I want to experience all
Speaker 3: the incredible things that I've experienced with my kids, and
Speaker 3: I feel as though we're moving out of those phases
Speaker 3: and I'll never get to have them again. Something just
Speaker 3: didn't feel complete for me. That's kind of my biggest
Speaker 3: fear is, like I think that people think that if
Speaker 3: we were to have a girl as a third baby,
Speaker 3: that there would be disappointments, And I want to say, like,
Speaker 3: for me, I could not care less.
Speaker 2: It probably has pro.
Speaker 4: Cons as well, because you've already got two girls, you
Speaker 4: know how it works. A third girl would fit into,
Speaker 4: you know, the sisterhood, and there's five years different.
Speaker 2: So I guess if you had a boy and it
Speaker 2: was it's a different sex to the.
Speaker 1: Other two so left out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's big.
Speaker 4: Difference and to be different sex as well. But I
Speaker 4: think that they'd be pros.
Speaker 2: And cons to both.
Speaker 4: And I can't imagine either of you actually care, like
Speaker 4: as much as you could say you have a preference.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, everyone just wants a
Speaker 4: healthy baby.
Speaker 1: Are you going to find out gender?
Speaker 3: We are actually so look, I mean you should ask
Speaker 3: that he's a little bit of a scoop.
Speaker 1: Guys, so we are actually going to do it.
Speaker 3: If you're listening to this on Wednesday, so like today
Speaker 3: you were told and as the episode came out, Matt
Speaker 3: and I because obviously Matt's having a conversation about us
Speaker 3: having a baby on two doting dads because that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's his audience, that's where he can have the chat.
Speaker 3: It's kind of in the title, Yeah and I and
Speaker 3: I'm talking about it to you guys, like we share
Speaker 3: everything about our lives, well not everything, but we share
Speaker 3: so much about our lives with you, and it's like
Speaker 3: such a privilege that you care enough to want.
Speaker 1: To know about it.
Speaker 3: So Matt and I we were talking about what we
Speaker 3: would do because up until this point, we've never found
Speaker 3: out gender before. We've always found out at the point
Speaker 3: of delivery whether we're having a boy or a girl.
Speaker 3: But this time Matt was like, I really want to
Speaker 3: know at the time. And when it all came down
Speaker 3: to me telling him that we're having another baby, I
Speaker 3: wanted him to feel really excited about it, and so
Speaker 3: I kind of gave that over to him. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: well this baby we can find out and that made
Speaker 3: him like, you know, he was stoked. So we are
Speaker 3: actually going to do it this afternoon. You guys can
Speaker 3: listen if you want to. We're going to do it
Speaker 3: on the pick up at three o'clock. So we're gonna
Speaker 3: do it on radio.
Speaker 4: Look, I actually just got goosebumps this afternoon and live
Speaker 4: on radio, we're gonna find out me and Mad.
Speaker 3: But also, if you don't listen to radio, I don't worry.
Speaker 3: I'll just tell you next episode. It's fine, or you
Speaker 3: can go in to my socials.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you there.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, I feel very privileged that
Speaker 4: I get to find out at the same time as
Speaker 4: you were Mad, but I was.
Speaker 2: Like, it's not my privilege. All Australia's finding out. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm so, but you're in the room.
Speaker 1: You're in the room.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna find out together because you know, obviously
Speaker 3: we will tell our family and stuff as well.
Speaker 1: But like, it didn't feel right.
Speaker 3: To have the conversations in silo, so we were like,
Speaker 3: let's do it together and you know what, it'll be fun.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna find out this afternoon. I feel so
Speaker 3: fucking weird about it. I would prefer not to find out.
Speaker 3: That would be my absolute preference. I would love to
Speaker 3: just I love the surprise. I think it's such a
Speaker 3: special moment in birth and I feel like like it's
Speaker 3: the reward for the hard work. Is kind of how
Speaker 3: I felt like finding out who this person was that's
Speaker 3: been in me this whole time. Whereas like, I know
Speaker 3: it's important to Matt, so I'm happy to do it
Speaker 3: this time around.
Speaker 4: And you've got two surprises, so it's okay too, I mean,
Speaker 4: but also I've done.
Speaker 1: Every birth, so I feel.
Speaker 2: It's funny that you'll probably continue to do the bird.
Speaker 3: I've done one hundred percent of the birth so far,
Speaker 3: so I feel like that was mine to have.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm happy to make the concession.
Speaker 4: I do feel like because a lot of couples argue
Speaker 4: about if you want to find out, like when one
Speaker 4: person wants you and one person doesn't, I do think
Speaker 4: it always comes down to the fact that the mother
Speaker 4: gets to overrule and gets a final decision because you
Speaker 4: are the one sacrificing everything. You're carrying it, your body's changing,
Speaker 4: your hormones, you've got a breastfeed, you've got it's got
Speaker 4: to come out of your vagina, like for you all
Speaker 4: the hood well what you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: it's all you, It is all you, So at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, there isn't an argument, and.
Speaker 3: Also speaking of that, like third pregnancy, all the things
Speaker 3: that you experience in first and second pregnancy just happened earlier.
Speaker 3: Like your body changes so well for me anyway, I'm
Speaker 3: sure everyone's different, but your body changes so quickly, and
Speaker 3: like all of the things that didn't hit me until
Speaker 3: I was like twenty four weeks or twenty six weeks
Speaker 3: with the other two just happened sooner. And I think
Speaker 3: it's maybe because like gravity, and like I'm older, I'm
Speaker 3: considered geriatric pregnant. Actually I was considered geriatric pregnancy last time,
Speaker 3: but I'm thirty nine, Like I'm going to need to
Speaker 3: change the parameters. I know, I don't walk into my
Speaker 3: appointment the Zimmer frame, but thirty nine. The reaction from
Speaker 3: the obstetricians around age related birth has been different. It's
Speaker 3: been different. They were really chill when I was thirty
Speaker 3: five having a baby. They didn't seem to like take
Speaker 3: it as seriously, and I never I mean, it's up
Speaker 3: to everyone's own personal preference. But I never had the
Speaker 3: NIPT test done with maleolola was just my preference. I
Speaker 3: had the newcal fold test done, which is like when
Speaker 3: they look for genetic abnormalities based on the structure of
Speaker 3: the baby. But I never had a chromosomal test done
Speaker 3: on them either, And this time it was really pushed
Speaker 3: as though it was something that was a priority.
Speaker 1: So I kind of felt like.
Speaker 3: There's been more systems that have been put in place
Speaker 3: and been really kind of like, Okay, you should do
Speaker 3: this to make sure that you're aware of like everything
Speaker 3: that's going on. And also with Marley, Marley was forty
Speaker 3: two weeks, so she went over by two weeks, and
Speaker 3: my obstration was like, you are absolutely not going over.
Speaker 3: You will have a baby at thirty eight or thirty
Speaker 3: nine weeks, so I know that it will be end
Speaker 3: of September unless I come super early. But that's never
Speaker 3: been the case for me. But I think as you
Speaker 3: get older and as you're having pregnancies, as you know,
Speaker 3: thirty nine, forty, whatever it looks like for you as
Speaker 3: an individual, they take it more seriously because they can
Speaker 3: be more complications that are eyes well.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's statistically proven that you do have more
Speaker 4: go wrong with babies as you get older, and that's
Speaker 4: why miscarriages increase. Things just changed, and it's not anything
Speaker 4: personal against somebody, it's just it's biology.
Speaker 2: It's just what happens.
Speaker 5: It's also with sperm as well, like advancing paternal age
Speaker 5: is a risk factor for certain genetic conditions too, and
Speaker 5: no one ever speaks about that. They only ever talk
Speaker 5: about the fact that as the woman gets older there's
Speaker 5: all these complications.
Speaker 3: Totally, you know, it's so I was, I mean, look,
Speaker 3: I don't get all my information from social media, but
Speaker 3: I saw real recently which was all about like the
Speaker 3: epigenetic coding of male sperm and the impact that that
Speaker 3: has on women.
Speaker 1: And it was around this guy being like munchiged in
Speaker 1: to the.
Speaker 3: Best shape of their lives nine months before they get
Speaker 3: a woman pregnant, and that there has been links of
Speaker 3: like sperm has an impact on miscarriage rate, on whether
Speaker 3: a woman ends up having preclamsier.
Speaker 1: There is such a.
Speaker 3: More defined link to the sperm than what anyone ever
Speaker 3: knew before, and everyone always just thought it was like
Speaker 3: completely the woman's body, completely the woman's responsibility, but actually
Speaker 3: they've realized that there's so much DNA that is responsible
Speaker 3: for the impact of the pregnancy and also the quality
Speaker 3: of the birth experience of the mother. So yeah, if
Speaker 3: your partner's fucking drinking and smoking and not taking care
Speaker 3: of himself. But you're trying for a baby to the
Speaker 3: police had in for sure.
Speaker 5: Actually speaking about physical complications, the last episode that we released,
Speaker 5: you spoke about the fact that you had a cyst on.
Speaker 6: The other side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cist first, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: How did that impact what came first to chicken all
Speaker 2: the ink?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: So, yeah, so the cyst was already there, and I,
Speaker 3: like I said, I've had it since September last year. However,
Speaker 3: it's been fluctuating in size, and it had decreased at
Speaker 3: Christmas time, So I had had a scan done at
Speaker 3: Christmas time. And I guess the part of that story
Speaker 3: that I wasn't able to tell you until now. So
Speaker 3: I'd had this scan at Christmas time, it had decreased
Speaker 3: in size, and then after I found out I was pregnant.
Speaker 3: Part of the reason why I wanted to do a
Speaker 3: pregnancy test was because I kind of felt a bit uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: but I didn't realize it was because my cyst was
Speaker 3: back and it was bigger than it had ever been.
Speaker 3: So what it actually happened is when I ovulated. The
Speaker 3: time that I ovulated and got pregnant from it. The
Speaker 3: ovulation bled straight into the cyst, and so it was
Speaker 3: a byproduct of getting pregnant. But the problem was is
Speaker 3: that I now had like an eight point five centimeters
Speaker 3: cyst that was just floating around the same time that
Speaker 3: I had a developing baby, which can be okay for
Speaker 3: some people, or it can cause really bad complications. If
Speaker 3: it doesn't, it doesn't resolve itself. But the issue around surgery,
Speaker 3: So if you have a really really big cyst, often
Speaker 3: surgery is the option. The problem is is that if
Speaker 3: you have gotten pregnant and that is you're ovulating ovary,
Speaker 3: that ovary is responsible for creating the placenta and creating
Speaker 3: all the things that the baby needs to be viable.
Speaker 3: So they can't remove it until the end of second trimester.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, that would have been so stressful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even then it's really complicated, so it added
Speaker 3: a layer of complication. Basically, the obstitution was like, we
Speaker 3: can't do anything. You do, just have to wait and see,
Speaker 3: and if there's torsion, it would have meant complications not
Speaker 3: just for the ovary but also for the baby. So
Speaker 3: I'm so lucky that that has just kind of like
Speaker 3: spontaneously resolved, not completely, but resolved enough that, like, my
Speaker 3: ovary is not at risk now. So it's something I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to deal with after the baby's born, and
Speaker 3: it might be something that they do in tandem, depending
Speaker 3: on what happens, Like I might have the baby and
Speaker 3: then they might go and remove the cyst at the
Speaker 3: same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll find out.
Speaker 2: One stop shop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can snip down there, snipap here. I was like,
Speaker 1: can you give me a la Literally, I was like,
Speaker 1: can you do the whole thing? And he was like,
Speaker 1: nonin until six months after I was and.
Speaker 2: Do the nose job while you're there.
Speaker 3: If it's just to be fair though, guys, this is
Speaker 3: too much information, but I'll tell you anyway. My vagina
Speaker 3: got so fat, so fat when I was pregnant with Lawla,
Speaker 3: Like it was humongous.
Speaker 2: Human You've already told us that, So no one's shocked
Speaker 2: by that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's fat started little started down there. I'm
Speaker 3: only eighteen weeks and it's already started.
Speaker 1: It just gets huge.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I need some lymphatic drainage happening, but
Speaker 3: it just just drained straight into my rowler.
Speaker 2: Can you get like a e lymphatic vaginal message. That
Speaker 2: kidding I think that.
Speaker 3: I don't think I could walk in and specifically ask
Speaker 3: for it. I feel like the therapists might be a
Speaker 3: bit confused.
Speaker 2: The pelvic floor physios and stuff.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think they messaged the labia. We'll find out.
Speaker 2: I'm not for it.
Speaker 3: There's so many weird things that happened to you body
Speaker 3: during pregnancy though, that people don't talk about. Like people
Speaker 3: always say, like, oh, you're glowing, and it's a lie.
Speaker 3: You get malasma, your nipples go dark and nipples get long,
Speaker 3: get a line on your belly.
Speaker 4: You get hairy, like beautiful time ever, you look amazing.
Speaker 4: I'm calling bullshit on that one. We before you even
Speaker 4: told us you were pregnant. I remember complimenting you so much.
Speaker 2: I was like, your skin is amazing.
Speaker 1: What did you do? I just thought you were tired.
Speaker 3: I had just had profilo, That's what we had just
Speaker 3: gotten around botox and profi loo just before I got pregnant.
Speaker 3: Probably shouldn't say that, but I don't recommend it just
Speaker 3: worked out timing wise. Well, Look, one of the only
Speaker 3: other things I really want to talk about is because
Speaker 3: you guys have kind of been along the pregnancy and
Speaker 3: pregnancy loss journey of mine over the last few years,
Speaker 3: and we've had a kind of like a pattern to
Speaker 3: our pregnancies thus far. We had pregnancy loss, then we
Speaker 3: had Maley, I had another pregnancy loss, then we had Lola,
Speaker 3: And so I think it's actually taken me a really
Speaker 3: long time to get my head around that, you know,
Speaker 3: hopefully this one is going to stick. I really honestly
Speaker 3: think for a very long time, I just assumed that
Speaker 3: I would have a miscarriage this time.
Speaker 2: Around, like before you got pregnant again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that that also is a reason
Speaker 3: why I don't think I've felt the same level of excitement.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: It's just I think anytime you have a pregnancy after
Speaker 3: pregnancy loss in general, every time, it kind of just
Speaker 3: erodes your sense of security in a pregnancy.
Speaker 5: Has that gone away now, And if it has, at
Speaker 5: what point did it go away?
Speaker 3: It doesn't ever completely go away for me, I don't
Speaker 3: think so the baby's born, Yeah, it really doesn't. And
Speaker 3: I feel a slight lack of attachment to my pregnancies
Speaker 3: in general, even though I can say that there was
Speaker 3: excitement and everything else.
Speaker 1: I feel a lack of connection.
Speaker 3: I know that some mothers feel this real deep connection
Speaker 3: with that unborn child and it seems like it's a
Speaker 3: beautiful experience. I feel a little bit alien to it.
Speaker 3: And I think that that might be mental self preservation.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's really just your brain goes into like protection. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think I am just now actually quite a
Speaker 3: realistic and pragmatic person at times, and so I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: not going to be driven by the emotion, going to
Speaker 3: be driven by like the reality of the possibilities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've had the lived experience. You can't when
Speaker 2: you've lived something and you know it.
Speaker 4: Can happen to you and you know how it feels,
Speaker 4: you can't just ignore it.
Speaker 2: It's always going to be in the back of your mind.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. But anyway, guys, that was I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's much else to share.
Speaker 5: Sorry, and we be selfish and talk about us and
Speaker 5: tell everyone how you tell.
Speaker 6: Us the podcast? Now? What does it mean for us?
Speaker 6: How did you tell us?
Speaker 1: How did I tell you? Guys?
Speaker 3: Look, there is actually a really big conversation that we
Speaker 3: want to have because obviously Britt it involves you heavily.
Speaker 3: Every other time I have been pregnant, and I mean miscarriages,
Speaker 3: all pregnant and it's been a success, Like the four
Speaker 3: times prior that I've been pregnant, Britt, you have known
Speaker 3: before I've told that like I have told I have
Speaker 3: told you crazy, like I told Britt literally the day
Speaker 3: I found out, especially the baby after Marley, which was
Speaker 3: really close, like I think I was pregnant like ten
Speaker 3: eleven months after Molly was born.
Speaker 1: Like it was the same year crazy crazy clothes.
Speaker 3: Well I no, it was still pregnant, same year with Lola,
Speaker 3: but this was like three months prior to Lolah, So
Speaker 3: I think Marley was in like nine months. I told you,
Speaker 3: and then I hadn't so like I told Matt, And
Speaker 3: it was only a couple of days later after I
Speaker 3: told Matt that I miscarried. But Britain you for like
Speaker 3: weeks prior to me telling Matt, which I'm sure he's thrilled.
Speaker 4: To know that.
Speaker 2: I like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: But this one felt different, And it felt different because
Speaker 3: obviously you are in a very different place with your
Speaker 3: wanting to have kids and fertility and the conversations that
Speaker 3: we've had around IVF and everything else. So I had
Speaker 3: this real fear around telling you and it upsetting you, yeah,
Speaker 3: or it telling you and it feeling as though it
Speaker 3: wasn't going to be received as good news because I
Speaker 3: know that, and you know, we have had so many
Speaker 3: conversations around how you can be happy for a friend
Speaker 3: and be sad for yourself, and I guess I felt
Speaker 3: like this time it needed to be treated with more
Speaker 3: care and more considerate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is also a double edged sword, because it
Speaker 4: makes me appreciative that you would even consider that, but
Speaker 4: it makes me upset that you would think that it
Speaker 4: would not be received well, that I would not be
Speaker 4: happy for you like that to me makes me more
Speaker 4: upset to think that a friend.
Speaker 2: Can't share something her happiness.
Speaker 1: Well, you're still one of the first people I told,
Speaker 1: so it's not no.
Speaker 6: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's a funny feeling because that upsets me more being like, wow,
Speaker 4: I hate that my friends feel like I won't be
Speaker 4: able to separate those two.
Speaker 3: I think the difference in this is and I know
Speaker 3: what you're saying, because often, for example, like if you
Speaker 3: have had pregnancy loss or you don't have a baby,
Speaker 3: you don't get invited to the baby showers, you don't
Speaker 3: get invited to the birthday parties, and people assume that
Speaker 3: it's they don't want to deal with your discomfort. And
Speaker 3: know that in my situation and our situation, it's not
Speaker 3: that I just knew that this time it needed more
Speaker 3: sensitivity and it needed more consideration, whereas last time and
Speaker 3: the time before, I just told you the day of
Speaker 3: it didn't matter. It was reckless and careless because I
Speaker 3: didn't have to care because.
Speaker 1: You didn't care.
Speaker 3: But knowing now, when you have friends who deeply care
Speaker 3: and who are going through their own experiences, it's important
Speaker 3: to approach it in a way I think that is
Speaker 3: considerate and is sensitive. And also I kind of wanted
Speaker 3: to like figure out how I was feeling about everything,
Speaker 3: and an idea of like, well, how does that impact
Speaker 3: so because you know, we're best friends, but we're also
Speaker 3: business partners in this as well, so we want to
Speaker 3: do a whole episode, which we will do in the
Speaker 3: next little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's complicated and it's so multifaceted and multilayered.
Speaker 4: It's definitely not something that you can we can throw
Speaker 4: into an episode now, and it's not something I would
Speaker 4: want to talk about now either, because it does come
Speaker 4: attached with some confusing emotions, and I think this emotion
Speaker 4: right now for you is happiness, and this episode is
Speaker 4: excitement and happiness. And there are conversations that we will
Speaker 4: have in the future about this conversation because I know
Speaker 4: there's so many of you listening now that are on
Speaker 4: my side of the best people on Lawer's side of
Speaker 4: the fence. And when I say fence, I don't mean
Speaker 4: like opinions, I mean where you're right in life, Like
Speaker 4: some of you are going through it not successfully, and
Speaker 4: you have friends that are going through it successfully, And
Speaker 4: there's people on both sides of that fence.
Speaker 2: So I think it's important that we do talk on both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the big conversation that we want
Speaker 3: to have about that, which will be its own episode,
Speaker 3: is around like how do you have those conversations and
Speaker 3: how do you hold space for someone who's living a
Speaker 3: very different experience and.
Speaker 1: What does that look like?
Speaker 3: Because you are always and as women, we are always
Speaker 3: going to have different periods of life where we're not
Speaker 3: able to be on the same page as our friends.
Speaker 3: And it's not just you brit like I have other
Speaker 3: friends who are going through who have been through some
Speaker 3: really really challenging fertility issues, and it feels different being like, hey,
Speaker 3: I know you're struggling with this, I'm having my third.
Speaker 3: That feels careless and like it's not very thoughtful. So, like,
Speaker 3: I guess we really wanted to have that conversation broader
Speaker 3: and be like, Okay, well, how do you navigate this
Speaker 3: when you want to, you know, talk about something that's
Speaker 3: so exciting for you, but also do it with care.
Speaker 2: And also the other side of the coin.
Speaker 1: I remember colle Fisher speaking with you about this.
Speaker 5: Antanya Hennessy more recently on Life on Cut is the
Speaker 5: emotions that the person who is receiving the information experiences
Speaker 5: as well, not in terms of like the complexity of it,
Speaker 5: in terms of the fact that they can feel really
Speaker 5: bad about how they actually feel.
Speaker 2: In response to that and.
Speaker 1: The duality of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, living with the duality, perfect way to summon
Speaker 5: it up. I would love to kind of do a
Speaker 5: bit of a deep dive on that at some point,
Speaker 5: and like you guys said, another episode, and I think
Speaker 5: it will be really really important conversation.
Speaker 2: It's also just the age we're at.
Speaker 4: It's so prevalent now because of the time frame we're at,
Speaker 4: so all of when you said you've got a lot
Speaker 4: of other friends going through it, it's because that's where
Speaker 4: we're at.
Speaker 2: In our life.
Speaker 4: You know, like we're in our mid to late thirties,
Speaker 4: where it's if people haven't had kids yet, now the
Speaker 4: time they want it. But it's also now is the
Speaker 4: time that you realize that maybe you do have issues
Speaker 4: with falling pregnant or you.
Speaker 3: Know, in this in the last eighteen weeks of me
Speaker 3: knowing that I'm or seventeen weeks, I've known that I'm pregnant.
Speaker 3: I've had friends who have had miscarriages. I've had a
Speaker 3: friend who's had a baby who had and has been
Speaker 3: through some of the most challenging fertility issues I have
Speaker 3: ever known someone to experience. And so you know, I
Speaker 3: think that this pregnancy felt different for those reasons, because
Speaker 3: like my experience and my exposure to it is different now,
Speaker 3: whereas like when I was thirty five, I was the
Speaker 3: first person that I knew that it had a miscarriage.
Speaker 3: I didn't know anyone else, So like it's a very
Speaker 3: different experience.
Speaker 5: I reckon that actually should be something that every single
Speaker 5: one of us, as in I'm talking about you listening.
Speaker 5: We should actually be so proud of ourselves because that
Speaker 5: has shifted so much in the last couple of years.
Speaker 5: I think our ability to recognize the emotions involved in
Speaker 5: situations like this. I now see when people have pregnancy
Speaker 5: announcements on social media that it's like, hey, leono, I
Speaker 5: understand that this could be a really complicated thing for
Speaker 5: someone if you want to mute me, Like all of
Speaker 5: those types of things. I think we have actually come
Speaker 5: such a long way in being considerate of how other
Speaker 5: people experienced it differently, and I think that's a really
Speaker 5: beautiful thing. Like that's we constantly talk about the ways
Speaker 5: in which society is fucked, and I think that that
Speaker 5: is one of the best ways that we have actually
Speaker 5: evolved into being considerate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, completely, And you know, it's a really interesting thing
Speaker 3: because like I think about like this whole concept of
Speaker 3: motherhood and like, if you had asked me in my
Speaker 3: twenties if I was gonna have kids, and I've said
Speaker 3: it before, I didn't even know if I wanted to
Speaker 3: have kids. I never had this deep maternal pool. I
Speaker 3: never he felt as she's still figuring it out.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Yeah, I just never had it.
Speaker 3: I never had it, and it wasn't until I became
Speaker 3: a mum that I felt as though a door opened
Speaker 3: for me. And it is an experience that I have
Speaker 3: loved so deeply. And I love being a mum and
Speaker 3: I love my girls, and I know I complain on
Speaker 3: here about it sometimes, but like, it's literally the best
Speaker 3: thing that ever happened to me. And I guess for me,
Speaker 3: you hear so many horror stories about how hard parenting is.
Speaker 3: You hear like, and it had to happen. The pendulum
Speaker 3: had to swing so that women who were challenged by
Speaker 3: motherhood and who find it incredibly hard had a voice
Speaker 3: and felt comfort in that. But I also think sometimes
Speaker 3: that the pendulum swung so far in the opposite direction
Speaker 3: that we don't hear about how great it is and
Speaker 3: how how fun it is, and how actually you can
Speaker 3: discover a whole new identity in motherhood. Your life doesn't
Speaker 3: just stop, work doesn't just dry up, you know, your
Speaker 3: sense of self doesn't just disappear, but like you kind
Speaker 3: of become a new version of yourself. And that's what
Speaker 3: I have felt motherhood has been for me, and I
Speaker 3: fucking love it. So like when I think about it
Speaker 3: in that respect, I get really excited because I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: he's a whole new human that I get to meet,
Speaker 3: and who's gonna be like this cool little person who's
Speaker 3: gonna scream at me and treat me like Well, it doesn't.
Speaker 6: I have one more thing.
Speaker 5: So on the weekend I was talking with my friend
Speaker 5: Sophie shout out, so if I know that you listen,
Speaker 5: you're a big lifer. And I was saying, oh, there's
Speaker 5: going to be a really exciting thing coming on Wednesday,
Speaker 5: and she was like, what is it?
Speaker 2: And I hand on my heart.
Speaker 6: I kept it a secret. I was really proud of
Speaker 6: myself and not sharing it.
Speaker 5: I was like, you gotta wait, you gotta wait, And
Speaker 5: she was like.
Speaker 1: The podcast isn't ending.
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, that's a bad secret. We would
Speaker 1: never hook that announcement.
Speaker 6: Brittany and Laura unemployed.
Speaker 2: Third baby Life on Cut will not cease to exist.
Speaker 4: There'll be some minor adjustments whilst the birth in in
Speaker 4: the early days, but like the podcast.
Speaker 5: We will live stream from the birth.
Speaker 2: So you guys are going to be a part of.
Speaker 1: You guys have more concerned than I ever.
Speaker 5: No, no, I'm not concerned about adult I actually am
Speaker 5: not concerned in the slightest. I wanted to put the
Speaker 5: listeners at ease so that they don't feel as though
Speaker 5: it's going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, guys, I thrive in chaos. Throw more
Speaker 1: on my plate.
Speaker 6: I do feel like it's gould.
Speaker 4: To be slightly more stressful than the other two times
Speaker 4: because there are two other children now like there's three children.
Speaker 2: But we're ready for that.
Speaker 1: I am the most supported that I have been this time.
Speaker 3: So the last two times it was COVID, there was
Speaker 3: no support. I had no childcare, I had nothing, and
Speaker 3: I still managed to do what I did this time.
Speaker 1: I live with Matt's mum.
Speaker 3: You know, we are very very fortunate that we are
Speaker 3: able to afford child support, and you know, both my
Speaker 3: other kids will be in school. I actually feel the
Speaker 3: most confident about going into this birth, and I'm what
Speaker 3: I did in the last time, and so you know,
Speaker 3: obviously like I'll have a couple of weeks off, I'll
Speaker 3: have a baby. I'll come back and tell you about it.
Speaker 3: Like it's not the podcast isn't going anywhere. Nothing else changes.
Speaker 3: This big news doesn't stop anything.
Speaker 5: I think you should be really proud of that though,
Speaker 5: because you put the systems in place. You know, like
Speaker 5: you've got the support systems in you have multiple businesses,
Speaker 5: you've got amazing people in each of those that it
Speaker 5: takes a village, right, and you've got the village.
Speaker 2: But I'm so lucky that this job as a job,
Speaker 2: it can be done from anywhere.
Speaker 4: So if there's a bad day, well, it's like, if
Speaker 4: there's a bad day and you need to be like, hey,
Speaker 4: we need to do it from home today, we can
Speaker 4: do it from home. We've got equipped Like That's that
Speaker 4: we're blessed in the fact that we have a job
Speaker 4: that is mobile. Like that is not like you've got
Speaker 4: to turn up to a nine to five at a storefront.
Speaker 4: Obviously it's better here if you can come into a studio.
Speaker 4: But like, we are very lucky that we can do
Speaker 4: this anywhere at any time.
Speaker 3: Let me know if you want me to podcast from
Speaker 3: the delivery suite, because I'll do that to you guys.
Speaker 3: We are absolutely not if you want me to take life,
Speaker 3: if you want me to take a road caster in
Speaker 3: because I'm going to be in juice. So I'm going
Speaker 3: to have six hours of laying there with an epidural
Speaker 3: in my back. I'll tell you all about again.
Speaker 4: Get an audio content where that's puddler roone to do
Speaker 4: your ef you geral and it can be a whole
Speaker 4: family affair it.
Speaker 2: I'll come in. Do you want to come in podcast?
Speaker 1: You can come in.
Speaker 6: Why it's crowning with.
Speaker 3: This could be a podcasting first. We could literally podcast
Speaker 3: live from my birth.
Speaker 2: If you want to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm not scared. It's the third one. I don't care
Speaker 1: as much.
Speaker 4: I've always wanted to see just how long the long
Speaker 4: lavia is, so I will come in to do it.
Speaker 3: The first two felt really special. The third one I'm like,
Speaker 3: I've done this twice now. This is an old roadie.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna cough that baby out. It's an old podcast live.
Speaker 2: If Matt will let me come in, I will come in. Podcast.
Speaker 3: Do we need to have these kind of mics or
Speaker 3: do we have to just put one of the lapel
Speaker 3: MIC's on?
Speaker 6: No, you don't have to hold you can have a lapel.
Speaker 6: You can't imagine.
Speaker 2: One of us standing there with one of the MIC's
Speaker 2: boom mic.
Speaker 1: They're too echoey. I hate those anyway, guys.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 6: The MIC's too echy echoee. So we're happy for you.
Speaker 2: Congratulation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got another little team member joining next year's
Speaker 3: tour bus for Life on Cut.
Speaker 1: It's going to need some extra baby seats.
Speaker 4: But make sure you, guys tune in to the pickup
Speaker 4: this afternoon because we're doing the live gender reveal.
Speaker 2: We're going to find out what baby you've had. And
Speaker 2: if you're listening to this late already.
Speaker 1: Know Yeah, if you're listening to this late, just go
Speaker 1: to my Instagram, you're probably not. Anyway, guys, thank you
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 3: I am so excited and so like, Yeah, I love
Speaker 3: being able to share this stuff with you. We've shared
Speaker 3: everything along the way, and yeah, this is like the
Speaker 3: next chapter.
Speaker 2: I just to take you seriously with your.
Speaker 6: Sash on.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're like world peace. That's what I
Speaker 2: feel like. It's giving. Do you know what I'm devote about?
Speaker 4: You know what I will say, I'm devote about what
Speaker 4: I was looking so forward to it and I was
Speaker 4: telling so many people. I actually said it to Keisha.
Speaker 4: I said, I can't wait for the wedding. I was like,
Speaker 4: Laura is going to get lit. Before I knew were pregnant,
Speaker 4: I was like, Laura's going to be so lydy at
Speaker 4: my wedding.
Speaker 2: I was like, she loves a Margie. I've got Marg's
Speaker 2: on the menu.
Speaker 1: For it, Mark and Margaritea.
Speaker 2: I put them on the cocktail. Are you specifically because
Speaker 2: I hate them?
Speaker 6: Actually?
Speaker 4: Fuck it, I'm taking them off off I'll show you
Speaker 4: can I just say, readers.
Speaker 1: I know, make make me a booze free one.
Speaker 3: It's such a privileged to be able to share it
Speaker 3: with you guys, so thank you for always coming along
Speaker 3: for like the journey of what we experience in.
Speaker 2: Life, journey of life, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you guys have been there for all of it.
Speaker 1: So it means a lot.
Speaker 4: If you actually, if you have this early at my
Speaker 4: wedding and take away my limelight with a baby.
Speaker 3: I'm going to if I have this baby early, it'll
Speaker 3: be very unwell. So I think that it's not about
Speaker 3: the limelight. It's probably about me being in the ICU ward.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, it was a bad joke. Don't take so seriously,
Speaker 2: all right, So yeah, hey.
Speaker 3: Guys, that is it from us. If you love the episode,
Speaker 3: please don't leave a bad review on.
Speaker 5: That, Like, that's a pretty awful thing to leave bad review.
Speaker 2: Been a bad review on the fact that Laura's having
Speaker 2: a baby. You can stop listening to Life onger.
Speaker 3: That would be weird, but yeah, like look, leave us
Speaker 3: your reviews. You can go and join Life on Cut
Speaker 3: podcasts on Instagram. You can watch it on YouTube. We
Speaker 3: also are on Spotify. You can put comments there, like literally,
Speaker 3: you can get us on all the channels.
Speaker 4: Book discussion group, that's a big one. So if you're
Speaker 4: not following that, go and follow that. But also can
Speaker 4: we just say please go and we can see you
Speaker 4: guys watching YouTube, hit subscribe and follow along with us because.
Speaker 2: Those videos are so good and we're gonna.
Speaker 4: Be putting a lot more up there, like a lot
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Speaker 2: So it's really important for the podcast too.
Speaker 4: If you go to YouTube the app channel just Life
Speaker 4: on Card podcast and actually hit like subscribe, that would
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Speaker 2: And you know the drim tea, mum tea, dad, tear
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