1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm always interested in whether the passing of skills matters. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm a punctuation pedant and it drives 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: my friends crazy. If they send me a text, they 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: have to double check that they've got their apostrops apostrophes 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: in the I. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: Am one of those friends. I have to I've employed 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: a proofreader for every text that I send you. 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Could you call them a puff reader because you've got 10 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: it wrong? Yeah? Well, I hate putting pressure on people. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: Very hard, but I have said you were drunken text. 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: And I don't know why this stuff matters to me 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: because I know that language is organic, or would all 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: be talking like Chaucer, you know what's you know? 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: It was an old what's century? Sixteenth century? 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: Just hard, you know, like Shakespeare in English. We don't 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: talk like that anymore because language is organic. 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: I pretty see thus, But I don't like being part 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: of the move. I don't like being the yeah brigade, Yes, 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: that's where we are now, heading into new territory. I 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: don't know if I like it. 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: But old school radio broadcasting, like when I started this, 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: you had to speak properly with an authority voice. 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: I used to be exactly. 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: You used to sound like Clancy from Skippy. Mister Hammond, 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: mister Hammond, you spoke so well, but now you listen 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 3: to podcasters. Yeah, it's like standing next to chainsaw. 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: Well, Also, there's a certain stack of skills that we're losing. 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it matters. I saw this article. 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: It's about gen Z. Gen Z are categorized from being 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: thirteen to twenty eight. Yep, it's quite a big span. 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: But they've done a survey on whether they can do 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: certain things and most of them can't. And I don't 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: know if it matters. Number one, writing incursive. I'm left handed, 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: so I can't write well anyway. When I first came 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: to Sydney, I've been born in Brisye. Came to Sydney 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: and I had to write with a cartridge. 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Pin of cartridge pin. 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: Which is like it. 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: And my mother went to see the school and said, 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: can she please use a biro? 43 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I had ink all over my arms. You know it. 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: It sounds like I'm on the little House in the Prairie. No, 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: because you weren't. 46 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: No, it has the cartridge inside it, but it had 47 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: a left handed curved nib and I just smell it 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: right across the page. 49 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: It was a disaster. My handwriting is a disaster because 50 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: of it. 51 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: I'm old enough to remember the cartridge pen era. Because 52 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: you get your pen license, remember your pen license. 53 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: I never got my penal license. What happens if you 54 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: never got a penal license? If you're writing illegally, they 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: should have RBT people my pen license. But so, only 56 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: twenty percent of gen Z's gen Z can write in 57 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: cursive compared to ninety five percent of baby boomers. Most 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: schools have removed it from the curriculum. And fair enough, 59 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: I mean, but teachers, I don't know why you're not 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: allowed to use your laptop because teachers having to read 61 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: handwriting for HSC. Kids go into training to do the 62 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: HSC with distress balls and things like that. Because your 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: muscles in your hand, you're not. No one's used to 64 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: handwriting anymore, fair enough, No one, or actually three out 65 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: of four gen Zettas struggle to read an analog clock. 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, could you do it? I can read down log clock? 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Can you? 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: Okay? 69 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: What's this? 70 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: I've heard your time? 71 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: I can do digital and out. 72 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: Log can you yes? And even correctly? 73 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: You know, why don't you how about this one. Only 74 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: ten percent of gen zettas can navigate using a physical map. 75 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, remember that, you know the UbD. You pretty 76 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: much have to turn it as you're driving. When we 77 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: did be on two thousand, we drive in places obviously 78 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: we'd never been to before, all over the world, and 79 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how CRUs did it. I have no 80 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: sense of direction. There was no sat nav. 81 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: You were guaranteed to get a string of green lights 82 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: if you had a UbD open on your lap. 83 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because you think, I'll look at this 84 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: the menu, I get a red light. 85 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: Are you allowed to do that? Though? Can you get 86 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: a UbD on your lap now and drive around with 87 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: the cops bust you for that? 88 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: Can you reach over to get your sunglasses out of 89 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: a brief case. 90 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: I was a motorcycle courier for a nanosecond in the eighties, 91 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: and on my petrol tang of my motorbike there was 92 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: a plastic screen, like plastic, clear plastic thing and you 93 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: put your ub that and you're when you were a motorcycle. 94 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: I remember you're using one and you. 95 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: Whack it in there and you'd be right along on 96 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: your bike like a whole ub D. It's if a 97 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: motorbike is not dangerous enough. And you had a CB 98 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: radio strapped to your waist and it was like. 99 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: And you go, what the hell do you get sat 100 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: nav on a bike? Yeah? 101 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: I've got one on one of my bikes. 102 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: Now, And how does it work? How does it talk? 103 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: You look at it? Yeah? 104 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: I don't really use it? 105 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: Does it come up in your vision? 106 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: You know that big Harley the Ultra it's on that 107 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: it's a big TV screen. 108 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: Is see that's dangerous? Not really? Not really? How about this? 109 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: Only ten percent of young people no more than five 110 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: phone numbers by heart. 111 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know my phone number. I know yours? What 112 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: is it? 113 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: Three four one four three four? 114 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: Actually you all. 115 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: Now this is where you and I both bore down 116 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: mental arithmetic. The way we do our maths is a 117 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: bit like that. Ten percent of gen Z can do 118 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: complex math. 119 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Without a calculator. 120 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: Complex You and I trying to look out the price 121 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: of oysters before and we thought a dozen was twenty 122 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: four or to move. 123 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: On from that, driving manual cars and five percent. See 124 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: this is where you and I differ. 125 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 2: I think it doesn't matter because you can get around, 126 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: you can drive a car. 127 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 1: You don't have to have that badge of earth. 128 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: I can't drive, but who cares? 129 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: I can drive. 130 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: I can get where I need to go without having 131 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: a man knowing how to drive a manual. 132 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Why are you pulling a face? See? 133 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: I think that's a snobbiness, that's that's not necessary because 134 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: if you can do the job without doing that, it's 135 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: like me saying, hey, why don't you go and light 136 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: a whale oil lamp. We've moved on, Brendan, you don't 137 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: need to can you sew any three? 138 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: You can't hunt anymore. It's so woke. 139 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: Only three percent can sell on a button or patch 140 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: a hole because closes much cheaper now they are? 141 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Am I boring you? Brendan? How many I've got one? 142 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: You like this one? 143 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: I've got timbre listen to I hate to go over 144 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: time with you, Brendan, you're trying to read down log 145 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: plot Listen. 146 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: Two percent of gen Z is now how to tune 147 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: a radio? 148 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: Ah, the old days are tune in the radio? 149 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: Who needs it? Getting them tuning out there? I just 150 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: put tuna on it, all right? How about this one? 151 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: This will surprise you. 152 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: Fewer than zero point five percent of gen Z can 153 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: read more code. 154 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: Okay, dot dot dot dash dash dash. 155 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: Sorry if I've spoken of my allocated time, Brenda, let's 156 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: get back to the Jonesy Show. 157 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: Tell me more about Bill's on film