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Speaker 1: It's a women Woody podcast minis. But when you're in

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Speaker 1: a rush or just can't be bothered listening to them

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Speaker 1: blather on for half an.

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Speaker 2: Hour, I know Beck Judd, Beck Madden as well too,

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Speaker 2: pretty high profile mums all over the socials at the

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Speaker 2: moment talking about the fact that they're kids. There needs

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Speaker 2: to be a bit of balance when it comes to lockdowns. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we are protecting the public health and safety, we're protecting

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Speaker 2: the health's care system by implementing these lockdowns. But at

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Speaker 2: the same time, the opportunity cost of that is that

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Speaker 2: we've got these kids, who've got these adolescents who are struggling,

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Speaker 2: and it's starting to get to a level which a

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Speaker 2: lot of parents are suggesting is equal to or at

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Speaker 2: least a conversation starter for the fact that there might

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Speaker 2: need to be some sort of balancing out of the rules,

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Speaker 2: because I mean, it's a shocking equation to have to

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Speaker 2: look at, but it really comes down to the mental

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Speaker 2: health of the youthful or the physical health of the

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Speaker 2: elderly and the sick, and there's not.

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Speaker 3: Really a good answer in between two evils there. But

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Speaker 3: one of the stats that Beck Judd did post on

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Speaker 3: her social media was and this is for Victoria. I

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Speaker 3: think she is in Victoria. Three hundred and forty two

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Speaker 3: Victorian children are presenting to hospital each week with mental

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Speaker 3: health emergencies, which which is a pretty confronting statistic.

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Speaker 2: Massive, massive number. Now we're going to talk to doctor

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Speaker 2: Michael Kargreek right up next, who is obviously a professional

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Speaker 2: scholt has written lots of books on adolescent mental health

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Speaker 2: at the moment. But look, one of the things as

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Speaker 2: well that I want to talk to kids about. We've

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Speaker 2: got Tom has caught up. Who's fifteen?

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Speaker 4: Is Tom beyond you? Beyond your mental health?

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Speaker 2: You're obviously at school mate, How do you feel about

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Speaker 2: losing some of these years of your life as a

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Speaker 2: fifteen year old?

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Speaker 4: Is that something that you're aware of?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it is a bit tricky, but I

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Speaker 5: think most of us are getting by all right. You know,

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Speaker 5: Online school isn't as hard as before, I think, says

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Speaker 5: work to do. We're still getting taught.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, schooling is good. But what are you missing from

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Speaker 4: the school?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 4: Tom? Like? What what? What? What are the things that

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Speaker 4: that you feel like you are missing out on?

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Speaker 5: Well, obviously connecting with your mates is a lot trickier.

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Speaker 5: But these days, with social media and technology, we can

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Speaker 5: talk over video games and you know, snapchat and whatnot,

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Speaker 5: So it's kind of been. If there are times it's

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Speaker 5: to be to have a pandemic, I think now it's

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Speaker 5: not too bad at a time.

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Speaker 2: And or is that just a great excuse that you

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Speaker 2: can just play more PlayStation mate? Yeah, of course I'm

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Speaker 2: talking to my friends as you kill people. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: the call, Tommy, really well spoken. They've got Daisy, who's nine?

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Speaker 4: Daisy? What do you miss most about going to school?

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Speaker 5: Huh?

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Speaker 4: What was that? Daisy?

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Speaker 5: Hello?

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Speaker 4: Hi Daisy? Can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What do you miss most about going to school?

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Speaker 5: I'm missing my friends and socializing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you get to nine?

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Speaker 4: Do you have access to a phone? Daisy?

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Speaker 3: Are you calling your friends?

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Speaker 5: I do go outside and go to the parking stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I've still got a bit of park time

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Speaker 2: in there thanks to the call. Days, I just move

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Speaker 2: on so I don't have to repeat ourselves again.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to hear though, nine year old say missing

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Speaker 3: seeing her friends.

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Speaker 2: I miss my friends and I miss socializing and occasionally

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Speaker 2: I get to go to the park. It kind of

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Speaker 2: sounds like she's talking about going to the yard in prison.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it.

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Speaker 3: No, No, seriously, Yeah, it's just not.

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Speaker 4: A fate that you'd like.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't wish that on a prisoner, let alone a

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Speaker 2: child has done nothing wrong.

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Speaker 3: And again I can't imagine and her parents as well,

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Speaker 3: knowing that that's the struggle she's going through. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: then these parents that you can't playgrounds are closed, or

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Speaker 3: and then also trying to stay strong.

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Speaker 4: For the you've seen them go through that.

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Speaker 3: If you show an emotional chink, then they're going to

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Speaker 3: you know, wear that as well or absorb that. That's yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a tough position.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I'm going to go to Emily, who we've got

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Speaker 4: here on thirty one and six. Emily, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? Thank you?

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 4: How old are you am?

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Speaker 1: I'm eighteen?

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Speaker 4: Oh cool? So your final year VCE or HSC. Where

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Speaker 4: are you're doing it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? VC eight?

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Speaker 2: Fin?

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Speaker 4: Are you okay? So how much school have you missed

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Speaker 4: so far? You reckon?

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Speaker 1: I think it was twenty eight weeks.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean when I was at school, that's reason

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Speaker 2: for celebration. But it's probably starting to get to the

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Speaker 2: point where it's a bit of been annoying for you, mate,

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Speaker 2: talk talk to us through what you feel like you're

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Speaker 2: missing most and let's put schooling to one side. It

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Speaker 2: sounds like they've probably got you pretty well sorted out

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Speaker 2: that way, But what else are you missing?

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Speaker 1: Oh, just like the whole atmosphere of your twelve you know,

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Speaker 1: trust through the last year of final for your mates,

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Speaker 1: you'll probably won't see as much in the future, So

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Speaker 1: definitely that's an annoying buzz.

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Speaker 2: I think also, like, am I know and you'd probably

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you did a three four in

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Speaker 2: year eleven or if you did a year twelve subjects

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Speaker 2: helpful things for me in year twelve was you get

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Speaker 2: in your head when you're studying a lot right, like

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Speaker 2: you feel like, you know, it's overwhelming, and then you

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Speaker 2: go and talk to a friend of yours and they're like, oh, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I haven't worried about that, and then they make.

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Speaker 4: You feel a lot better about it. You feel are

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Speaker 4: you're feeling isolated?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean everyone's really going at their own

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Speaker 1: pace like anything. You do is on you, so, like

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think there's a bit of accountability in

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Speaker 4: But it's an early age to be learning that.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you should be getting around each other and

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Speaker 2: having each other to get around and your teacher's obviously

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Speaker 2: like you all scheduled up on zoom appointments and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've all got that. It's just like the general

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's so sorry, it's hard without that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: do you feel unmotivated? I feel like if I didn't

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Speaker 3: homework and stuff like that, then I may have sort

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Speaker 3: of dropped the ball a little bit there. But how

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Speaker 3: are you feeling there with the lack of motivation.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling like I've got more motivation now because they're

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Speaker 1: so close to exams. But like year eleven, I did

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Speaker 1: not hardly do any school. Yeah, and now we came

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Speaker 1: up that motivation yeah, sure, am.

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Speaker 2: I actually feel for your age group more than anyone,

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Speaker 2: like during all this pandemic stuff like these are really

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Speaker 2: meant to be like the best years of your life.

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Speaker 2: And I just really hope that you know that after

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Speaker 2: school as well, you're going to be out there and

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Speaker 2: you're going to be you know, free in the community,

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Speaker 2: double jabbed and away you go. So there is a

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Speaker 2: lot at the end of the tunnel. And I think

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Speaker 2: literally everyone in Australia tips their cap to anybody who's

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Speaker 2: finishing school at the moment. So like, bravo, mate, you're

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Speaker 2: doing You're doing a brilliant job and you should be

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Speaker 2: really proud of yourself as well, because I definitely couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Do what you're doing at the moment. No thank you,

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Speaker 4: no worries, It all my good luck. Go and get them.

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Speaker 3: What are you asking any exam tips or you're gonna

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Speaker 3: ask me for some example?

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Speaker 4: I definitely wasn't. I was about to say what is

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Speaker 4: unavailable for exam tips?

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Speaker 5: If you're anything else?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Good hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 4: You know you want to