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Speaker 1: This is such a wonderful joint venture.

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Speaker 2: Rock Quiz Live and The Whitlams together in Kings Park

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Speaker 2: on March twenty third. Tickets are through Ticketmaster and Tim

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Speaker 2: Friedman is with us now. Good morning Tim Friedman from

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Speaker 2: the whitlam.

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Speaker 3: Tim, Good morning Lisa. Hi closy.

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Speaker 1: Tim.

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Speaker 2: Can people expect you to make an appearance during the

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Speaker 2: Rock Quiz part of the evening.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm just negotiating the duet that I will singing

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Speaker 3: with the orchestra as we speak. I'm going for the

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Speaker 3: Grateful Dead, but I've been sent a suggestion for Dolly Parton.

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Speaker 3: All will be revealed on the night.

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Speaker 2: Dolly Parton never fails to please broad spectrum.

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Speaker 3: Right there.

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Speaker 4: I like the sound of that. We like surprises.

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Speaker 3: Tim.

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Speaker 4: We haven't spoken for quite a while, but what was

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Speaker 4: it like the first time on stage for you and

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Speaker 4: the band, when you know, post lockdown and you saw

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Speaker 4: the audience reaction and you guys actually getting to get

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Speaker 4: out there again. It must have been joyous for you.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I was. I'd managed to tour solo just

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Speaker 3: with the digital piano in the back of my car

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Speaker 3: quite a lot in twenty and twenty one, and I

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Speaker 3: felt like I was the only musician out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was so good. It was like there was no competition.

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Speaker 3: It was a dream come true. I'd roll into town,

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Speaker 3: dust off the piano, the piano, Channa in, play to

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Speaker 3: a little theater and I've got to be honest, I

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Speaker 3: had a really good COVID.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well done well because I think over here in

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Speaker 4: Perth nineteen twenty seven were the only band who were

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Speaker 4: playing gigs back then. They got almost everything. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's good for you.

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Speaker 1: We missed out because you couldn't get in here.

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Speaker 2: It was like knocks, but we did come off the

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Speaker 2: COVID thing not, you know, fairly unscathed.

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Speaker 1: Now this eighth studio album coming out.

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Speaker 2: This show falls in between dates for your Kooker Barrough

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Speaker 2: Tour also name of the album, which is out March eight.

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Speaker 2: Will we get to hear some new tracks at the

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Speaker 2: King's Park show?

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Speaker 3: Maybe one, but we'll basically be doing the best of

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Speaker 3: the Wheelams at Kings Park. The new album's more of

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Speaker 3: got a country music bent to it, and so it's

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Speaker 3: a slightly different lineup that's playing the cook A Barrett album.

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Speaker 4: All right, I've been reading Bernie Torpin's book and Belton's lyricist,

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Speaker 4: and he's been talking about how songs or lyrics come

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Speaker 4: to him. How about for yourself? You know if a

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Speaker 4: songwriters often talk about when songs come better, be it

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Speaker 4: lyrics or melody first? Is it miraculous for yourself quite

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Speaker 4: often or is it sometimes a combination of that or

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Speaker 4: hard graft for different tunes.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd say it starts with a phrase, some clever

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Speaker 3: little phrase that pops into your head while you're driving

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Speaker 3: or reading. And after that, though, I think the music

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Speaker 3: and the words come at the same time, because I'll

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Speaker 3: sit down and turn that spark into something which lasts

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Speaker 3: four minutes. Unreal.

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Speaker 2: Not every album in the world contains you know, it has.

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Speaker 2: Every song is brilliant on it Eternal Nightcap However, in

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Speaker 2: my humble opinion is one it's one of the great

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Speaker 2: Australian albums. I never tire of listening to it. Every

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Speaker 2: song is as good as the next one. I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously no for Disiak is incredible. I particularly love Louis Burdett.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was an old flatmatee or something was Louis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I we shared a house and.

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Speaker 1: The house yeah he was.

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Speaker 3: It was a scrappy time sounds like fun. Well yeah,

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Speaker 3: well cool. He was. He used to always winge about

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Speaker 3: not getting enough work, and so I thought i'd memorialize

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Speaker 3: his bad humor nice and he's never forgiven me.

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Speaker 2: We always had a Louis Burdette and our share houses

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Speaker 2: back in the day.

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Speaker 1: There was always one.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing about that album is it coincidentally

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Speaker 2: Tangled Up and Blue is one of my favorite Bob

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Speaker 2: Dylan songs. How did that end up on the album,

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Speaker 2: that one sort of track that's not yours?

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Speaker 3: Well, there were two. There was a young fellow called

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Speaker 3: Tim Hall who shared some of the singing back in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety five when I was making the album, and

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Speaker 3: that was his party piece. He would get up and

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Speaker 3: sing that whenever prompted at pubs around Okay. I loved

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Speaker 3: the way he did it because his phrasing was so

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Speaker 3: original and he sang it beautifully. So I needed to

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Speaker 3: get in on the album to sort of record his contribution.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened. But now I really enjoy singing it

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Speaker 3: because it's such a such a challenge. Yeah, goes so

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Speaker 3: high and as you know, as you know so many words,

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Speaker 3: it's like a novel which has been distilled into a

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Speaker 3: short story, which has been distilled into a soul so

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Speaker 4: Well, that was the album that had Melbourne on two.

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Speaker 4: At least is a man lover of Melbourne, so am I.

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Speaker 4: But at least they're having lived there as well. Somebody

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Speaker 4: great Chun's but distinctly, you know, it's like Greg McCain's

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Speaker 4: with Skyhawks, and you know Paul Kelly writing songs about

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Speaker 4: Adelaide or Melbourne when he moved something about home. Where

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Speaker 4: was home for you?

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Speaker 3: Tim?

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Speaker 4: Where did you grow up?

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Speaker 3: I grew up in Sydney, but I fell in love

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Speaker 3: with a girl from Melbourne and I always meant to

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Speaker 3: go and live there, but I just never got to it, unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll play all those three songs you mentioned

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Speaker 3: getting played at kings Park in March.

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Speaker 1: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: We know that we should do the songs that are

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Speaker 3: close to people's hearts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, beautiful, I love that. Do you remember the first

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Speaker 1: time you heard yourself on the radio?

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Speaker 3: I do. I was driving at Kingswood up Heroad, Newtown

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Speaker 3: and Gough came on the radio in nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 2: So that's got everything. I was behind the wheel of

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Speaker 2: love that.

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Speaker 3: That's a good story, that's what happened.

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Speaker 4: And the number of musicians we've asked that question in

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Speaker 4: the last three four months and they have that vivid

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Speaker 4: memory of it driving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 3: Well moment. I still. It doesn't happen as much now,

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Speaker 3: but I still because it's very interesting to see just

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Speaker 3: how the mixes are changed when they get compressed on

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Speaker 3: the radio, and you sort of think about how you

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Speaker 3: you get the memories of when you recorded and who

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Speaker 3: it was about. It's not always a nice moment on.

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Speaker 2: The subject of things changing. What do you think of

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Speaker 2: AI infiltrating the music industry.

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Speaker 3: I'm ignoring it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, la la la la, la la la la.

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Speaker 1: I hate everything about it.

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Speaker 3: I sort of feel as if I'm immune for the

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Speaker 3: time being because my thing is doing the one thing

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Speaker 3: that I can't, which is getting people in a room

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Speaker 3: and listening to songs, you know, and in a live

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Speaker 3: performance setting. Yeah, so I'm hoping I'm a little bit immune.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't like to be a man who writes jingles

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Speaker 3: at the moment, all those sort of jobs in the

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Speaker 3: music industry are going to be threatened in the very

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Speaker 4: Right, absolutely. Yeah, And along with all the other stuff,

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Speaker 4: we started to hear about advertising and even coverage of news,

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Speaker 4: which is pretty sad.

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Speaker 1: Ask clazy, probably.

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Speaker 4: Are you really here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a scary road to go down to.

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Speaker 4: Tim, you mentioned about the hearing songs on the radio

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Speaker 4: and maybe analyzing how it was recorded and that. Do

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Speaker 4: you beat yourself up a bit about stuff that you've

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Speaker 4: done in the past. Are you're just just proud of

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Speaker 4: what you've done and move on because I guess when

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Speaker 4: I could have done that better.

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Speaker 3: I'm a revisitor and improver.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. The things that you you get last

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Speaker 3: a long time in the radio do so because you

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Speaker 3: got it right. Sometimes it's the album tracks which you

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Speaker 3: get surprised at you when you put an alb one

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Speaker 3: for the first time in fifteen years and you think,

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Speaker 3: what was I thinking?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Tim Rock is live at the Whitlams Kings Park March

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Tickets are through ticket Master. We look forward

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Speaker 2: to seeing you in Kings Park in March. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for chatting with us today.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to it too. King's Park was the first

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Speaker 3: place we played with an orchestra. It was back in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and three. Was I asked us to come over,

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Speaker 3: and that sort of set us on a new direction.

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Speaker 3: So I have very fond memories of Kings Park.

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Speaker 4: All right, sound was wonderful, he voiced him.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Lisa, and Clary said,