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Speaker 1: Jamesy and Amanda gem Nation.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest is an Emmy Award winning host, a producer,

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Speaker 2: and author. He is one of the most influential people

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Speaker 2: in Hollywood. He is the god of reality TV, the

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Speaker 2: only man who can tell a housewife what to do.

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Speaker 2: And he's the host of Watch What Happens Live, And

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Speaker 2: of course he's the executive producer and host of the

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Speaker 2: Real Housewife season the series. Of course we're talking about

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Speaker 2: Andy Cohen, Andy Hallai.

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Speaker 1: Hi, who is this guy? Who is this guy? Sounds interesting?

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Speaker 3: You started in a news capacity.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was at CBS News for ten years as

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Speaker 4: a producer. I worked on the Morning show and on

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Speaker 4: a show called forty eight Hours over there. And actually

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Speaker 4: the last time I was in Australia was in nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety seven, believe it or not, doing a profile of

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Speaker 4: David Helfgat, the guy who the movie Shine was based on.

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Speaker 1: That was my last time here. So it's great to

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Speaker 1: be back.

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Speaker 3: You're here for Marti Gras. That's a different experience to

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Speaker 3: interviewing David Helthca.

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Speaker 1: It sure is both fun and different ways. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of trampolines involved.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there a frontal nudity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Actually it's right in your wheelhouse. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: right when you look, that's so different.

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Speaker 2: Your skill set is quite extraordinary. And when you watch

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Speaker 2: the show, watch what happens live the big egos that

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Speaker 2: you managed to coerce into sharing so many secrets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you put in their cups of tea?

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Speaker 3: What do you do? How do you encourage them to

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Speaker 3: be so open?

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Speaker 4: They are actually booze glasses, they aren't cups of tea.

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Speaker 1: So that's a u B.

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Speaker 4: I think that there's something really deceiving about the fact

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Speaker 4: that they come in my little studio. We only have

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Speaker 4: twenty five people in the audience. It feels like Goldie

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Speaker 4: Han at one point was on and she turned to

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Speaker 4: me and said, is this show are we live? Are

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Speaker 4: we on TV?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, I was, And I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: this is this is what it is. Because people come in,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't kind of.

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Speaker 1: Feel like a real TV show, but oh it is.

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, I think we don't do a pre

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Speaker 4: interview a lot of you know, all the other late

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Speaker 4: night talk shows.

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Speaker 1: Every segment is.

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Speaker 4: Really set up and you're in there and they tell

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Speaker 4: you in the dressing room.

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Speaker 1: What you're going to talk about.

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Speaker 4: This is a totally unscripted experience just and so anything

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Speaker 4: happens and everything does.

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Speaker 5: And that's probably the best thing for you as well.

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Speaker 5: Whosays that as an interviewer, you want to go into

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Speaker 5: something feeless. I was like that thing Mariah Carey just

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Speaker 5: doubling down and denying all knowledge of Jayla.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was amazing.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy, I mean, and it's like, how does

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Speaker 4: it happen that she will then continue and sit there

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Speaker 4: and discuss it with me for five minutes and really

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Speaker 4: parse it out.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 4: I think people know when they come on the show.

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Speaker 1: They're up for a totally different experience.

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Speaker 4: If a huge star, and there have been many says

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Speaker 4: to us, Okay, we want to do the show, but

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Speaker 4: we don't want to.

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Speaker 1: Talk about X Y and Z, you know, and P

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Speaker 1: P and Q.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, if X Y and Z are big

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Speaker 4: news mating making items, I have to ask them. So

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Speaker 4: I'd rather have them not come on the show then

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Speaker 4: have me look like a fool for not asking a question.

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Speaker 2: The Housewives, the Real Housewives franchise is just extraordinary and

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Speaker 2: I love what you've said about it. Really being a

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Speaker 2: symbolism of feminism on television. We have never seen women

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Speaker 2: portrayed that way in all their up and down glads

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Speaker 2: right right.

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Speaker 4: It's you know, listen, it's all colors of the rainbow

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Speaker 4: for women. And I think people latch onto some of

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Speaker 4: the worst tropes that come out of it. When I

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Speaker 4: go on a talk show, the clip they want to

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Speaker 4: play is of Teresa throwing a you know, flipping a

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Speaker 4: table or someone throwing a wineglass.

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Speaker 1: There are hours and hours.

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Speaker 4: Of footage that go into every season and every episode actually,

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Speaker 4: and you know, the arc of the women is really interesting.

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Speaker 4: There's everything that we show, so it's not just the crazy,

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Speaker 4: crazy moments. There are moments of great vulnerability. There are

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Speaker 4: moments of great depth between friends and spouses and children

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Speaker 4: and sisters, and I think I think all those go

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Speaker 4: into the fabric of making a human being. And we

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Speaker 4: try to show everything basically. And I do think that

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Speaker 4: there's no other show on television that has celebrated specifically

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Speaker 4: women over fifty, who are, you know, having sex on

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Speaker 4: their own terms and living their lives on their own terms.

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Speaker 4: And I think there's something really powerful about it.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not. It sounds like BSD.

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Speaker 4: If you don't watch the show, But I think if

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Speaker 4: you do watch the show, you might have a sense

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Speaker 4: of what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: Do you think that the franchise has killed the sype operas?

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Speaker 1: I do, I kind of do. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the soap operason is always going to be there.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's kind of in the States, it's

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Speaker 4: really kind of slowly limping to the finish line. And

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Speaker 4: this is a medium on television that's been around, you know,

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Speaker 4: for sixty years or something. And I was a huge

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Speaker 4: fan of a show called All My Children in the

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Speaker 4: States growing up, and so to me, The Housewives does

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Speaker 4: satisfy a lot that I got as a fan of.

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Speaker 1: All My Children. It's you know, I've fallen with the

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Speaker 1: characters and you watch them over.

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Speaker 4: A series of years, live their lives, say unbelievable things,

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Speaker 4: wear amazing clothes.

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Speaker 3: And have dramatic things happen to them, and have.

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Speaker 4: Super dramatic things happen to them. How does that happen

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Speaker 4: to our women? We cast highly dramatic individuals to actually,

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Speaker 4: you know, in prison.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I mean, you don't know what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen on the day to day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but as you say, also, the women of this age,

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Speaker 2: we don't often see the reinvention.

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Speaker 3: These are women who are reinventing themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, they are. They are.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting and I've had a lot of women say god,

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Speaker 4: you know, were it not for the show, I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: have had the courage to see that I was in

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Speaker 4: a bad marriage and move on. And I've now fallen

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Speaker 4: in love or start a business, or stand up to

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Speaker 4: my children or you know. I think that there's a

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Speaker 4: power that they get from the show. Listen, power corrupts. Sometimes,

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Speaker 4: sometimes it goes well, sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: But it's always interesting to.

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Speaker 5: Watch, which I kind of I menagined Tyler Armstrong would

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Speaker 5: have ever thought that you would become a meme?

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Speaker 1: Yes, sure, well they've all become memes. Yes. Taylor is

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Speaker 1: one of the most famous, the one with the woman screaming.

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Speaker 5: Woman screaming at cat And I didn't even realize her

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Speaker 5: name until I looked it up and I went, Wow,

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Speaker 5: that's her.

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Speaker 1: And it's just.

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Speaker 4: It's wild the amount of memes that have come out

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Speaker 4: of this show. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's such a thrill to talk to. You

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Speaker 2: would Are there any shows you wouldn't go on? I

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Speaker 2: know you're such a fan of this style of television,

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Speaker 2: right you have an interview show as well as a

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Speaker 2: as a person yourself.

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Speaker 3: Would you ever be vulnerable enough to do it?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I have a new book coming out in May called

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Speaker 4: The Daddy Diaries, and it's a third of a series

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Speaker 4: of diary books.

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Speaker 1: That I've published.

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Speaker 4: And that's as close as I'll ever get to being

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Speaker 4: on a reality show. It's publishing my diary, but with

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Speaker 4: me in control of the edit, because I choose what

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Speaker 4: I'm putting out there and not. I couldn't go on

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Speaker 4: a show where I didn't have control of the edit

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Speaker 4: because I.

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Speaker 1: Know what goes on when yes, you know, so I understood.

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Speaker 3: Would you fully would you be painted as.

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Speaker 4: On on a show? I think that I would. Wow,

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Speaker 4: it really could be anything. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 4: question for my therapist. But I think that I could

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Speaker 4: be a control freek I think that because I am.

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Speaker 4: I think that I could be a little bit of

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Speaker 4: a know it all. Because I am, I think that

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Speaker 4: I could be, you know, a great time a party guy.

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Speaker 4: I think that there are a few tropes.

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Speaker 6: That I could you could follow enfranchise a meme instead

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Speaker 6: of you yelling at a cat, yelling at yourself. Exactly right, Andy,

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Speaker 6: It's great to have you on our show HOW Stream

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Speaker 6: watch what Happens Live only on HOW. You same day

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Speaker 6: as the US Boom Boom excited and I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Everyone can see it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks enjoy the Minds for having me.

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Speaker 1: I will