Speaker 1: Welcome back to TV reload. This is my last quick
Speaker 1: chat with the stars of I'm a Celebrity, Get Me
Speaker 1: Out of Here for twenty twenty one, featuring the winner herself,
Speaker 1: Queen Abby Chatfield. We first met this young woman less
Speaker 1: than two years ago when she turned up on The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: lying for the heart of scientist Matthew Agnew but famously
Speaker 1: coming second. And while she now is probably the most
Speaker 1: famous Batchy girl in history, her journey on television wasn't
Speaker 1: always rosy, polarizing the audience during her time on the
Speaker 1: popular dating show for Channel ten. Things over the years
Speaker 1: started to turn around for this young woman as she
Speaker 1: took on the haters and proved to her followers that
Speaker 1: speaking your truth is more than just an oprah winfree special.
Speaker 1: The path to glory has been faster than a concord,
Speaker 1: as frenemies to enemies, loathes to lovers Dialed nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: five ten ten for her to win the celebrated show,
Speaker 1: I'd like to welcome to the program, Queen Abby Chatfield.
Speaker 2: The biggest thing is that I have to understand that
Speaker 2: everything will part.
Speaker 3: So when I do, some reality moments cut through more
Speaker 3: than others. The thing is people ask me who I'm
Speaker 3: bigguse trolls are and always women. I still can remember
Speaker 3: too you walking down red cover. If I told myself
Speaker 3: a week ago, you've won the jungle and there's mine
Speaker 3: the winner.
Speaker 1: I'm a celebrity.
Speaker 2: To get me out of here is I didn't think
Speaker 2: that it's silly that I talk about sex so much, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I mean, I still can't believe that
Speaker 2: I won.
Speaker 3: It's like I don't have that much sex. I just
Speaker 3: want to have sexual freedom.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Abby, you are the queen of the jungle. How
Speaker 1: do you feel?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I feel amazing. I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: not even sure if it happened. You know, like when
Speaker 3: my name was read out, I thought, surely they meant
Speaker 3: Grant Danya, I didn't mean the bachelor of Villa Babbage,
Speaker 3: I feel but no, I'm over the moon. I just
Speaker 3: spoke to the CEO of Dementia Australia, so I'm so
Speaker 3: excited to get them one hundred Grant.
Speaker 4: Oh that is so powerful.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I was talking to Grant just a couple
Speaker 1: of hours ago and he was saying how much he
Speaker 1: saw the little girl in you once you won. You
Speaker 1: know he could see the honesty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Oh, Grandania is just such an amazing man.
Speaker 3: But I was genuinely shocked, and I was genuinely so
Speaker 3: happy and grateful because a year and a half away,
Speaker 3: I was a bachelor villain getting death threats and I
Speaker 3: was suicidal for more patrolling than I was. Getting them
Speaker 3: to win a show that is for charity and through
Speaker 3: popular vote is just something I could never have imagined
Speaker 3: eighteen months ago.
Speaker 1: What would you say was the biggest concern that you
Speaker 1: had saying yes to something like this, to saying yes
Speaker 1: to going back to reality television?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, you understand how fickle it can be
Speaker 3: relody tv. And my biggest concern was that I've spent
Speaker 3: a year and a half working on.
Speaker 2: My brand, and so I was you understanding who I was.
Speaker 3: And what I stood for When I was really scared.
Speaker 3: You know, there's always a chance for a bad edit.
Speaker 3: There was more time to edit this time, and I
Speaker 3: just thought it could be really bad or it could
Speaker 3: be really good, and say, god, it was the ladder.
Speaker 3: But I was kind of on the fence. And then
Speaker 3: my Grandma passed away and I thought, Mat, I've got
Speaker 3: to do it, so I'm glad I end up doing
Speaker 3: it because I've got the crown and one hundred grand
Speaker 3: with the mentor Australia.
Speaker 1: You know, you have such an incredible fan base who
Speaker 1: have really supported you through thick and thin. What do
Speaker 1: you think helped win over Australia in the end.
Speaker 3: I mean, did you see my friend got a tattoo
Speaker 3: with SMS Abby too one nine nine five ten on
Speaker 3: a risk?
Speaker 1: I did see that that could have helped someone had
Speaker 1: you your name tatted on them so that they could
Speaker 1: get people to vote for you. Is that right? No?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of my fans they're so lovely
Speaker 3: and they're kind of my age. They kind of can
Speaker 3: relate to me in that way. They're like I'm like
Speaker 3: their friend. I meet them out often wind up having
Speaker 3: a drink with them. That they're so lovely and cool.
Speaker 3: And I think they also are quite defensive me after
Speaker 3: the Bachelor. I think people a bit shocked about how
Speaker 3: I was treated during the Bachelor, whether they were part
Speaker 3: of that or have they witnessed that, And they get
Speaker 3: quite defensive and they get very passionate about me because
Speaker 3: I'm so polarizing, which is great because I love seeing
Speaker 3: women send up for what they believe in, and I'm
Speaker 3: very lucky that they support me the way they do.
Speaker 1: What do you think has been probably the biggest learning
Speaker 1: since being on the Bachelor. I mean, you know, you've
Speaker 1: come such a long way since they're and you've obviously
Speaker 1: had to learn coping mechanisms. Yeah, what would you say
Speaker 1: is something that has been the biggest learning curve?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: I mean the thing is I still struggle with all
Speaker 3: the trolling, and I still struggle with things. I mean
Speaker 3: I tried to take my mental health earth therapy once
Speaker 3: a week, like it's very it's still very hard.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you want to stay like a
Speaker 2: year and a half in This isn't.
Speaker 3: Very long really, And I'm I was twenty three when
Speaker 3: I when I got all that trolling. So I think
Speaker 3: the biggest thing is that I have to understand that
Speaker 3: everything will pass, like things that seem so hard to
Speaker 3: get through and so people were so mad about when
Speaker 3: I was in a Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Now I literally laughed my friends and be like, why
Speaker 2: would someone told me about that? Like stealing Elie's date card,
Speaker 2: And it's like, why do you get like what do
Speaker 2: you do?
Speaker 3: So, I think just knowing that everything will pass and
Speaker 3: it will get better. I mean, like I said, I
Speaker 3: was genuinely suicidal when The Bachelor was airing, and now
Speaker 3: I'm so over the moon happy, so everything can change.
Speaker 1: My sister and all of my female friends are so
Speaker 1: positive about you, and so it's so interesting to listen
Speaker 1: to them talk about the positive influence that you have
Speaker 1: over women. Do you think, you know, being twenty three,
Speaker 1: twenty four and moving into being twenty five, is that
Speaker 1: a young age to be a spokesperson or really an
Speaker 1: example for women?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: My god, absolutely. I mean there are things I don't
Speaker 3: feel like I'm an adult yet. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm like a mid twenty what's going on? But yeah,
Speaker 3: I do feel like I'm a bit too young to
Speaker 3: be doing this. But I will happily keep trying to
Speaker 3: do what I'm doing. And it means so much you
Speaker 3: will that are older than me, especially as you mean
Speaker 3: to say, I love what you do and I look
Speaker 3: up to you even though I'm, you know, in my
Speaker 3: mid thirties.
Speaker 4: It's just what I don't care. I don't want young
Speaker 4: girls or young women to.
Speaker 3: Hear that thing said and think it's normal and don't
Speaker 3: feel like they can stigu out for themselves.
Speaker 1: Should women be more supportive of each other? I mean
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I've noticed today. We're
Speaker 1: doing a lot of research on you seeing, you know,
Speaker 1: an amount of positis of support, but then also people
Speaker 1: being quick to try and tear other people down. What's
Speaker 1: something that you'd like to address or something that people
Speaker 1: could change in their behavior, you know for women talking
Speaker 1: about women?
Speaker 3: There are so the thing is people ask me who
Speaker 3: I'm biggaus trolls are, and it's always women.
Speaker 2: Men very very rarely troll me.
Speaker 3: I think because I kind of hit a nerve with
Speaker 3: women and I kind of am like, I don't really
Speaker 3: care what people think. So I do think that they
Speaker 3: I maybe have always wanted to do or they've thought
Speaker 3: and they think it's inappropriate, so they want to punish
Speaker 3: me for that.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing I just wish that women.
Speaker 3: Would learn to that the more we support each other,
Speaker 3: the more we support ourselves. And if you embrace this
Speaker 3: culture of newness and your embraces culture of progression and
Speaker 3: different thought, then will all benefit from it Rather than
Speaker 3: tearing to the down and keeping each other in check.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think also, you know, some of the
Speaker 1: conversations you've been having online was funny. It was only
Speaker 1: just as you were going into the jungle that I
Speaker 1: was out for lunch with my mum for her birthday,
Speaker 1: and my sister brought it up that you were going
Speaker 1: into the jungle, and then we had this long conversation
Speaker 1: about sex positivity for women. And when it started off,
Speaker 1: we were like, what an interesting conversation to be talking
Speaker 1: about it your mum's sixty seventh birthday, But here we were,
Speaker 1: with multi generations of women and men talking about it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's an amazing thing to talk
Speaker 1: about sex positivity for women at this particular point in
Speaker 1: our lives?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I love.
Speaker 3: That's so amazing, inter generational chat about sex potivila.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think it's it's it's I
Speaker 3: think in my world anyway, it's becoming very It's like
Speaker 3: exponential the rate at which sex and masturbation and all
Speaker 3: these things are good to talk about.
Speaker 2: I mean, a huge form of control.
Speaker 3: For women is sex sexuality and slut shaming, and I
Speaker 3: guess some men as well. In purity culture, so I mean,
Speaker 3: it's great that we can change that and hopefully get
Speaker 3: rid of some of those ties to purity culture and
Speaker 3: the patriarchy. I feel like it's all it's arang twined,
Speaker 3: and it seems like it's I think we think that
Speaker 3: it's leave that I talk about sex so much, like
Speaker 3: you know, the trolls who're like he is it says
Speaker 3: with sex, it's like I don't have that much sex.
Speaker 3: I just want to have sexual freedom. Like it's like
Speaker 3: I just want to have the option talg about sex.
Speaker 3: So I just talked about all the time. So I
Speaker 3: pushed the mits.
Speaker 1: One of the roomors I read online today, which I
Speaker 1: don't know necessarily how much of anything you read online
Speaker 1: these days is true, but it said something about the
Speaker 1: last guy that you'd been seeing didn't want to publicly
Speaker 1: come out and talk about your relationship because he didn't
Speaker 1: want to jeopardize his reputation, you know, dating a batchy girl.
Speaker 4: Is there any truth to that story?
Speaker 3: I mean last person that I was in a relationship
Speaker 3: with MYX boyfriend who'd been on and off for four years,
Speaker 3: and that was I was in April last year. So no,
Speaker 3: I haven't dated anyone.
Speaker 4: So well, the person I read it about was Danny Clayton.
Speaker 3: Oh Danny, Oh my god, Danny Clayton, Oh my god. No,
Speaker 3: Danny is literally he was there last night. He's my
Speaker 3: number one supporter. Danny is so so proud of me.
Speaker 3: He is I can't describe the matters of what I
Speaker 3: get Danny Clayton. So no, he's he's very very proud
Speaker 3: of me and to and t hang around me. I mean,
Speaker 3: people were saying in the audience lastlight he was the
Speaker 3: loudest on cheering, which is the cutest thing in the world.
Speaker 3: So no, he doesn't care to know about your girl.
Speaker 1: Did you look over and see him having a conversation
Speaker 1: with Ash Williams at one point and think, what is
Speaker 1: this strange world I've found myself in?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I literally when the passion was getting it, I looked
Speaker 3: over to him and he was just shaking his head
Speaker 3: and I was like, Oh, this is so so.
Speaker 2: Bad, but it's all good. We haven't spoken about it.
Speaker 1: What happens to Ash after the show? I mean, did
Speaker 1: he want more? Did like, did you get out of
Speaker 1: the jungle? And did he try and then again try
Speaker 1: to slide into the DMS.
Speaker 2: Well, to be frank, to be frank.
Speaker 3: After we finished filming, we were passing offset, we passed,
Speaker 3: we're pashing after in the control room. We'll be able
Speaker 3: to pass the next day. During socials like there was
Speaker 3: there was a bit of fun passion. Then we got
Speaker 3: to Sydney and then it just kind of you know,
Speaker 3: got a coffee and we're like, yeah, nah, this is
Speaker 3: like a jungle tension thing.
Speaker 1: You know, so many people in the media today, you know,
Speaker 1: Colin Jack, you know, everybody asking you about whether or
Speaker 1: not you'd be the Bachelorette, and you know there's a
Speaker 1: whole lot of people out there that would love to
Speaker 1: see that. But you've added to the conversation, which you know,
Speaker 1: Angie Cant has spoken about about the need for diversity
Speaker 1: on shows that we're seeing, and we need to see
Speaker 1: ourselves on television. I think we need more representation and
Speaker 1: diversity on television. Is there someone like maybe Paulini? What
Speaker 1: did you talk to Paulinie about doing? Can we hit
Speaker 1: her up for this?
Speaker 3: I've been campaigning, I've got a social media campaign, I've
Speaker 3: got a start up on my campaign to win celeb
Speaker 3: that's tick. Next next stop is Paulinie bachelorette. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: I'm going to try and make it happen. She is
Speaker 3: the absolute But she's such a lovely human. She's talented,
Speaker 3: she's gorgeous, she's everything, she's open to looking for love.
Speaker 2: I just feel like she's it. She's the next one.
Speaker 1: You were such a fantastic and dynamic contestant, probably one
Speaker 1: of the most in some ways polarizing, but some ways
Speaker 1: the most likable contestant. We've seen something really quite new
Speaker 1: for television. The thing I think is probably going to
Speaker 1: sound like the weirdest question I have for you, But
Speaker 1: what advice do you have for yourself moving forward?
Speaker 4: Like what are you going to do? What are you
Speaker 4: going to do?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: Are you going to be kind to yourself?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think A big thing that I struggle with, and
Speaker 3: this is even happening right now, is not being able
Speaker 3: to enjoy wins or joy enjoy moments like you know,
Speaker 3: if I told myself a week ago, you've won the jungle,
Speaker 3: Ather's o mine. But I'm just saying, like, God, I'm tired,
Speaker 3: and I think, Okay, what's next, what's next? What's next?
Speaker 3: I see you learn to enjoy things, have a breather
Speaker 3: and then move on to the next thing, rather than
Speaker 3: just being like k tick and kind of I think
Speaker 3: it's a bit of imposter syndrome, you know, when you.
Speaker 2: Achieve things and you go, what does matter now?
Speaker 3: Like I don't talk about it, It's fine, but I'm
Speaker 3: actually really proud of myself to this, So yeah, be
Speaker 3: a bit kind to myself and acknowledge my little and
Speaker 3: big wins.
Speaker 2: And this is a big one.
Speaker 4: This is a big one.
Speaker 1: I've actually been I saw you on social media, you
Speaker 1: flip the bird to the trolls out there that didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, support it, and I think you've brought flipping
Speaker 1: the bird back. I think I think it was huge
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties. I feel like it's coming back.
Speaker 1: Is there anyone out there that you like to flip
Speaker 1: the bird to at this point, or just just to
Speaker 1: say to those trolls calm.
Speaker 3: Down, Oh my god, all I mean everyone that's commenting
Speaker 3: saying she didn't served to win, and I'm like, but
Speaker 3: mathematically I did, because it's a voting system.
Speaker 2: I'm like, but but I simply but I did.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not sure what you want me to say, Like,
Speaker 3: what do you want me to prove to you you
Speaker 3: should have voted more.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I want, like yeah no, big
Speaker 2: big for the bird to them.
Speaker 1: Absolutely well. Thank you so much for being so generous
Speaker 1: with your time. I really hope that you enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1: I think Australia is just getting started with their love
Speaker 1: affair of you, and I look forward to seeing more
Speaker 1: of you on Australian screens.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much being so lovely loved to speak
Speaker 2: to you