1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: The Property Council of Australia's in t Division this week 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: released what they've described as a landmark report, Growing Northern 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Australia Solutions for Regional Development and Sustainability, calling for targeted investment, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: culturally informed policy and stronger local partnerships to unlock the 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: North's full potential. The report outlines clear recommendations to support 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: first nations their development, boost regional connectivity, attract private sector 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: investment and create jobs across sectors like housing, tourism, renewable 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: energy and more. Now joining me on the line is 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Executive director Ruth Palmer. Good morning to you, Ruth. 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Now Ruth tell me a little bit more about what 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: the purpose of was the report for the report. 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Katie. I'm in Kens at the moment for 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: the Developing the North conference and this week we have 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: released our Growing Northern Australia the Northern Territory Report. Basically 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: what that is, it's a report that basically outlines how 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: we can grow the Northern Territory in a way that 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: we're doing community led initiatives but also be able to 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: grow the workforce. Looking at taste studies around the Northern 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: territory and building up our regions but also our communities 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: as well, So how we can engage with First Nations 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: communities projects that are happening in those communities, but getting 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: people back into the workforce really and looking at ways 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: that you know, we're growing pretty much Northern Australia, how 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: we should be because we know there's bubbles as all 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: across Australia. We know that there's a squeeze around housing, 27 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: So how do we get people to come to the 28 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: Northern Territory and how can we do it in a 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: way that we're including everyone and that everyone's involved and 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: that we're you know, looking at that sort of that 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: growth potential. We you know, everyone talks about Northern Australia, 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: so how so how can we do that. 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: And how can we make sure that there's opportunities for 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: people when you go more regional or remote as well. 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Everybody you know needs those opportunities to be able to work. Ruth, 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: I know it does call for targeted investment. What kind 37 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: of investment does the Property Council think needs to happen. 38 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a couple of things, Katie. So workforce 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: developments a really big one in this piece. So we 40 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: know people want to be on country. We know people 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: want to work in their locations, So how do we 42 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: then build our remote workforce, whether it's regional training centers, 43 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: regional training hubs when we're looking at construction workers, people 44 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: that want to sort of even in mining or our tradees, 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: but also childcare as well. We know that flights are 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: unaffordable for a lot of people. We know it's expensive. 47 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: If your in Tennant Creek, it's not very easy to 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: get to Darwin, you can't go in for training. So 49 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: what are we doing to make that more accessible, more 50 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: affordable for people to want to be able to learn 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: how to learn how to do a skill but still 52 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: remain on country. And that's things like with childcare as well. 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: So if there's you know, parents that are at home, 54 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: they can't necessarily just sort of leave kids and then 55 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: get into di and for training. So what are we 56 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: doing to sort of support support those people who want 57 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: to remain in their country but also to be able 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: to then get that necessary training that they need to 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: be able to do the job that they want. 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: So the report does offer some practical solutions. What are 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: some of the practical solutions when you look at the 62 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: ways in which we could develop you know, Northern Australia, 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: but indeed the Northern Territory. 64 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: Yes, we've put in a few case studies there, Katie, 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: So across different sectors we've added case studies in what 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: I found that basically worked around in ordern Territory. So 67 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: there's the learner the training farm, so again building an 68 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: agriculture farm on country. There is the learning on country program, 69 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: there's a bush Light program and will agenda housing as well, 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: so building culturally appropriate housing for people that they want 71 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: to want to live in Northern Australia and especially the 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Northern Territory. So climatic issues is obviously a concern for most, 73 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: So how are we starting to build costally appropriate housing 74 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: for people to want to stay in the Northern Territory 75 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: but also to remain in areas that they want to 76 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: be living in. So you know, how do you keep 77 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: people in their communities on country, but also how do 78 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: you keep them growing and learning in their areas. So 79 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: things that we're looking at is especially around the regional migration. 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: So you know, what are we doing federally, especially to 81 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: make sure that the Northern Territory becomes a place that 82 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: people can come to and you know, looking at those incentives, 83 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: so regional migration zones. You know, we know that Gold 84 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: Coast and Perth and along are listed as regional migration. 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: If you're trying to attract you know, whether you're talking 86 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: like yesterday we were talking about the primary health network 87 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: in this space as in you know, primary health GPS, 88 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Like you talk about attracting and 89 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: having you know, these bonuses, all these different tax mechanisms 90 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: for people living regionally. And if you've got you know, 91 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: people moving to Catherine getting the same as what you 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: get if you move to the Gold Coast, do you 93 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: just think how ridiculous? 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and the same It's the same with 95 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: the tax offsets as well. So each year we all know, 96 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: living in the Northern Territory we get about three hundred 97 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: and thirty six or if you're in sort of Alice 98 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: Springs or Catherine, you get a thousand dollars back on 99 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: your tax each year. That hasn't been changed since the nineties, 100 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: So this is something we're also looking at. Like when 101 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: you're looking at those regional tax migration offsets, you know 102 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: sort of can that be overhauled. Can we look at 103 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: ways to encourage people to want to come to the 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: Northern Territory to set up here, to build, to build, 105 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: how to build properties, but you know, looking at those 106 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: looking at those incentive models and how we can change 107 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: that so it actually becomes more attractive. Because people in Sydney, 108 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: if they're in Victoria, it is becoming unaffordable in those places. 109 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: So we know the Northern Territory is still quite affordable 110 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: when it comes to housing. So what are we doing 111 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: to then get those people here? What are we doing 112 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: to grow that workforce, and what are we doing to 113 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: look at the potential of the Northern Territory, especially around 114 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: tourism as well well. 115 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Property Council of Australia's Northern Territory Executive Director Ruth Palmer, 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: good to speak with you this morning. Thanks so much 117 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: for your time. Thanks Like Katie having, thank you you too.