1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: This episode of Outspoken is brought to you by a 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Better Choice the Initiative, encouraging Ossie's to shop at their 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: local fruit and bedshop. This is Outspoken, the podcast is 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking. Our names 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: are Amy Kate and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things can 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: and issues facing women. That is so fetched. Thank you, 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Outspoken. Now we are 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: in foot to Royalty at the moment, Sophie, I believe 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: that you have turned into a foot model. So if 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: anyone is looking for her photograph of her feet, they 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: know where to go. Where is it, Sophie, Well, I 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't call myself a foot model, but I definitely wouldn't 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: either say no, I mean unpaid an unpaid foot model. 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Thank god my tone I was were painted. I had 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: the shock of my life. So we were filming some 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: videos at one of our clients, Malvin Medical Center, and 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: we were interviewing a p dietrist at the time, and 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Amy always throws me under the bus. I have to 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: be in every video that you film. I'm always a 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: customized either buying a car or getting medical services. So 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: at this point she's, oh, yeah, Sophie can be your client. 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there. It was quite a hot day. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: My feet was sweating. Oh, you just take your shoes off. 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: We're going to do some foot treatments for you. I 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: was so paranoid. And when your feet stung, and when 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: you say foot treatments, it was testing the vibrations on 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: your feet. It was actually really interesting she did this. 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: It's really lucky that I wasn't asked. Well, actually, it 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: kind of could have killed two birds with one stone 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: because I'm renowned for having a mankey toe, so at 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: least I could have got some you know, help out 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: of it. Well, it sounds like Sophie actually needs orthotics 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: after this sort of really consultation, So she got something 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: out of it. Well, apparently one of my feet roll in. 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: But you know what's funny, So Sophie mentioned, it's for 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: one of our clients, Malvin Medical Center, And it's actually 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: our uncles who own the medical center, and so we 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: did this big promotion for them last year and we 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: roped in all the family members to appear in this video. 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: So Sophie's sitting behind the reception death and our mom's 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: are patient and our uncles are the doctors. And I 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: also roped Dale into being a patient. And it was 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: so funny because it sounds like he's got a fan 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: out of the video. Yeah. Well, we were talking to 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: one of the nurse managers. We were interviewing her and 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: she's like, who was that guy that was used in 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: the promotional video? He was hot. We never see patients 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: like that in here. My boyfriend, I told him one 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: person like, my head's just going to get bigger and bigger. 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: Do you know what was really sweet though, one of 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: our listeners actually saw the advertisement and they recognize Sophie 54 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: in the vision. So good spotting by that listener. Well, 55 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: I've definitely got a bit of a show real now 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: for neighbors. If I want to, you know anything ups acting. 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: I always talk about your hands, how they're so soft 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: and milky white. 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: No, you never said milky white, said milky white. 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: On Wednesday, Sarah's Day confirmed the Internet's worst kept secret. 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: She's pregnant with a baby boy. Unlike the elaborate gender 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: reveal with her firstborn son Fox. This announcement was low key, 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: sparking more confusion. Kay, can you fill us in on 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: the background of Sarah and Kurt's pregnancy so far? Yeah? 65 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: Well so. Sarah and Kurt announced on September twenty second 66 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: that they were pregnant with their second child via a 67 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: two minute YouTube video. 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: Now. 69 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: The news was met with some confusion because many fans 70 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: had speculated Sarah had miscarried after she went on a 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: social media break and revealed she and her family were 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: experiencing a difficult time. Now on the YouTube video announcement, 73 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: many fans again speculated that they thought that she had miscarried, 74 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: and she wrote, thank you for your kind words and encouragement. 75 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: Thankfully we have not experienced any miscarriages along our journey. 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: We are still dealing with some sensitive things, but as 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: I keep saying, we will open up when we are ready. Now, Sooviy, 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: can you talk us through the announcement because it wasn't 79 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: really what we were expecting. No, it definitely wasn't as 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: elaborate her first announcement with Fox. So on Wednesday, Sarah 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: teased her followers with an insta story of Fox that 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: a gender reveal was on its way, but that it 83 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't be in a YouTube video format. So later that day, 84 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Sarah shared a reel on Instagram of herself in bikinis 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: with her bump on display, with texts that read, my 86 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: whole family told me I'd be a mum of three boys. 87 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: I think they were right. She captured the video I 88 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: understood the assignments two thirds of the way there hashtag 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: yeah the boys now. That reel has had over one 90 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: point one million views, and she shared it to her 91 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: Insta story and also followed it up with another mirror 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: selfie in her polates room. In big writing, it said 93 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: baby boy with the caption no extravagant gender reveal this time. 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Circumstances in life is different right now during this pregnancy, 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: so we wanted to keep it low key and humble. 96 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: We will explain more in the next YouTube video. Now, 97 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: before we get into what we think about the reveal, 98 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: I think it's important to discuss the gender reveal soft 99 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: launch that we spoke about a couple of weeks ago. Amy, 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: can you feel us in on what happened for those 101 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: who missed it, Yes, well, this soft launch definitely raised 102 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: some eyebrows. So the day after Sarah revealed she was pregnant, 103 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: she shared eight photos to her Instagram grid, all with 104 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: a blue aesthetic. She even accompanied the blue post with 105 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: people emojis of a mum, dad, two boys, and a dog, 106 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: so it was pretty obvious what she was implying. She 107 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: also captured one of the posts when I was just 108 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: a little girl, I told all my friends and family 109 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: mark my words, I was made to be a boy mum. 110 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: So interestingly, on last week's Real, where Sarah revealed she 111 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: was definitely having a boy, one follower broke, I thought 112 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: it was clear when you did the baby caption with 113 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: the blue picks, which Sarah replied me too, ha ha, 114 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: but apparently not clear enough. So to me, it seemed 115 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: like Sarah thought it was just enough to post the 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: blue aesthetic to actually reveal this baby's gender, which seemed 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: really odd because in the past it's been a big 118 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: deal for her to reveal her baby's gender. It's definitely 119 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: confused me and I suppose a lot of other people, 120 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: because I would have thought rather than drip feeding people 121 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: bits of information, it would have been more engaging and 122 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: probably a better social media strategy to do just one 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: exciting post rather than this series of blue posts and 124 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: then this one reel. Yeah, but the fact that she 125 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: said it is a different time. At the moment, you know, 126 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: Sydney's in lockdown. She can hardly be holding elaborate gender 127 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: reveal parties. I think it was quite a good move 128 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: for her to do it in a less elaborate and 129 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: more subtle way. And obviously it was an opportunity for 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: them to privately celebrate instead of making a big show 131 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: of it. They have been criticized in the past for 132 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: monetizing every moment, so in this scenario, I feel like 133 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: people are criticizing her phenomenetizing. It isn't always the second 134 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: kid that misses out on all of the celebrations as well, 135 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: because it's always like people go nuts with their first baby, 136 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: and then there's always the joke that the second one 137 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: no one bothers to fill out the baby. I feelink 138 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: life just gets in the way sometimes, maybe with the 139 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: second child, And in this situation, they're in lockdown and 140 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: they've also got a toddler running around. It's probably difficult 141 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: to organize something. Are we not ignoring the elephant in 142 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: the room? Those Sarah reference to not wanting to make 143 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: the announcement elaborate due to circumstances being different now in 144 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: this pregnancy, and this has created a lot of speculation 145 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: about the health of the unborn baby. Now, I just 146 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: want to make it clear that I think it is 147 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: so gross to be speculating about the health of an 148 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: unborn child, and it's really sad that it's come to 149 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: this point where people are talking about the health of 150 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: Sarah's baby. But I do think it was an avoidable situation. Well, 151 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: it's hard for people not to speculate, and I think 152 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the discussion around the health of Sarah's 153 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: unborn child actually came from a caring place because a 154 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: lot of people are heavily invested in Sarah's life, and unfortunately, 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: people are going to jump to conclusions when there has 156 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: been sort of information which has been drip fed to 157 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: the community. I totally agree with you, Amy, because it's 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: got to the point where it feels like bits of 159 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: information are being dropped as clues. And we did see 160 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: this when Fox. When Sarah was pregnant with Fox, she 161 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: used dropping clues about the baby's name as a way 162 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: for people to continue to engage with her content, and 163 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: I did take some time back to have a look 164 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: at how Sarah and Kurt documented and monetized Sarah's first 165 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: pregnancy with Fox, and as you said, the gender revealed 166 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: this time was so low key compared to what they 167 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: did with Fox. Kurt and Sarah held an event at 168 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: the Blackwood Pantry and Cronulla with their friends and family, 169 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: and everyone came dressed up in blue and pink, and 170 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Sarah documented her getting a makeup professionally done and her 171 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: head was dyed pink, so it seemed like a really 172 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: special event for the whole family. Now, this video amassed 173 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: one point seven million views. I'm so confused, Kate, because 174 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: on the one hand, you're criticizing her and saying that 175 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: during her first pregnancy she monetized the whole thing and 176 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: how vulgar that is. But then on the other hand, 177 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: you're criticizing her in this circumstance for not having the 178 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: elaborate revealed that could be monetized. Yeah, but if she 179 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: hadn't gone and monetized everything to do with Fox's pregnancy, 180 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: then we wouldn't be in this predicament where people are 181 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: questioning what's going on with the health of her second 182 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: child if she's not doing the same things. And I 183 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: do think while she's not being extravagant as per se 184 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: with the announcement, she is definitely dropping a lot of information. 185 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to know the gender of 186 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: the baby at this point. We really didn't even need 187 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: to know she was pregnant. I'm sure she could have 188 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: hidden it pretty well. She has been showing off how 189 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: she can hide her bump by putting it, clenching her 190 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: abs together, or whatever she's been doing. So this is 191 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: her job. Her job is about entertaining people with her life. 192 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to know what's going on. That's why we're 193 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: talking about it, because it's intriguing. People want to know 194 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: what's going on. People would be felt left out if 195 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: they didn't know the baby's journey exactly. And that's why 196 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: people are now speculating about the health of her child, 197 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: because they feel entitled to know all this information and 198 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: they have the ability to compare. I mean, if we 199 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: look back at her last pregnancy, she uploaded thirty pregnancy 200 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: related videos and altogether those videos have accumulated nearly forty 201 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: four million views, So you can see why people are like, 202 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: hang on you told us everything about that pregnancy, but 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: now you I'm not telling us much about this pregnancy 204 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: or the detail to the level that we are used to. Yeah, 205 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: but kay, I'm saying, if you're an influencer, it's your 206 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: job almost to do it. So what do you want 207 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: her to do in this situation? Look, I think it's 208 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: different when children are involved sometimes, like some people draw 209 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the line at it. I know what you're saying, Sophie, 210 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: because I feel like there are so many people who 211 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: are interested in Sarah's day's life and they want to 212 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: know this type of information. But I think some people 213 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable when they see so much information online about 214 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: a child who's not even born. That's the whole point. 215 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: Sarah has created this need that people now have and 216 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: this expectation people now have, and it has really shown 217 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: the dark side of putting your whole life on YouTube 218 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: and Instagram for people to consume as entertainment. And now 219 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: if something bad has happened, which we really hope it hasn't, 220 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: then this is showing why it's not a good idea 221 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: to put that information out there in the first place. 222 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: This episode of Outspoken is brought to you by a 223 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: better Choice Local fruit and bed shops across Australia have 224 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: banded together under a Better Choice brand to launch the 225 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Local Youth Sports Initiative. 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Former Australian Diamonds captain 235 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: nat Vomberto, Olympic silver medalist Maria Fay and Mastershire finalist 236 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,239 Speaker 1: Laura Chard adjoining forces to hunt for the most deserving athletes. 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: To enter, head into your local fruit and veg shop 238 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: around Australia and nominate your player or club via the 239 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: QR code displayed on posters and flyers. You can also 240 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: enter online. We will include more information about how to 241 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: enter in the show notes, we think supporting the little 242 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: guys is always a better choice and local fruit and 243 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: veg shops no cakes. Communities are rooted in sport and 244 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: wants to keep them strong for years to come. Is 245 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: a case of the little guy supporting the little guys, 246 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: but in big ways. Welcome back to my channel. I 247 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: have a special guest today. Mitch Third and Talia Scaines 248 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: are in the spotlight again after Mitch revealed the answer 249 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: to the question we've all been waiting for what's going 250 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: to happen to the former couple's joint businesses? Now they've 251 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: called it quits Amy, What did he say? Well? In 252 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: a Q and A on his Insta story, Mitch was 253 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: asked specifically about what was going to happen to Third 254 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: Fixed Collection and the villa he and Talia shared, which 255 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: is called Villa Tami. Mitch disclosed at the fate of 256 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: the villa all depended on international travel. He told his 257 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: followers that he and Talia had held onto the villa 258 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: hoping for COVID to go away, but he's now concerned 259 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: international travel won't return until next year, and even if 260 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: it does, he doesn't know whether the world will open 261 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: up to Bali. He went on to say, to be honest, 262 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: Tarles is sort of the boss with the villa, and 263 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: she talks of the cleaners, the gardener, the owners, the villa. Honestly, 264 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: no fucking clue. Does that surprise you guys? Well, I 265 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: find it really awkward that the villa is called Villa Tami, 266 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: And for those who haven't worked it out, it is 267 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: Mitch and Talia's name joined together. It's quite sad because 268 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: I feel like we were all taken along on the 269 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: journey of them building this villa, picking out the furniture, 270 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: having fun in it. It does show the dangers of 271 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: investing in property with your partner. Well. Mitch also went 272 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: on to reveal that Talia will no longer be a 273 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: part of the Third Fix collection. Let's have a listen 274 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: to what he said before. 275 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: We were doing no marketing, like there was no Facebook 276 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: or Instagram ads, no TikTok ads, no email marketing, no 277 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: influencer marketing, like, there was no marketing whatsoever. It was 278 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: just based off the brand that we had sort of created, 279 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: you know, from Tylie's games and Mitch. 280 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: Third, So, firstly, what do you guys think about the 281 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: fact that they were doing no real marketing for the 282 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: Third Fix Collection. To be honest, I wasn't really surprised. 283 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: It seemed, as Mitch said, that they really used themselves 284 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: as the promotional tool. I mean, they're not silly. Talia 285 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: has an engaged audience on her Instagram and YouTube platform, 286 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: and he has quite a large following himself, so it 287 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: made sense that they were the face of the brand. 288 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, I feel like there was 289 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: a lot more strategy put into the drink bottle company. 290 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: But for me, the Third Fixed Collection always seemed just 291 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: sort of a bit of a buy product, like let's 292 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: just buy some loungewear where everyone while everyone's in lockdown 293 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: and see how it goes. I totally agree, and I 294 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: think that people bought into the couple aspect of it. 295 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: So if you were following Talia, it's something you probably 296 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: buy for your boyfriend to wear as well. But now 297 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: she's no longer a part of it, I don't see 298 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: that business surviving for much longer. Yeah. Same, And I 299 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: think that couldn't Mitch still be a part of fronting 300 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: the campaign. I don't understand why he can't be a 301 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: part of it well. To be honest, is anyone going 302 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: to buy it if he's in front of a campaign. 303 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm not in no disrespect to him. I'm just saying 304 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: that the market buying in is probably female, so they're 305 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: going to want a female to front it. It would 306 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how many sales they get in 307 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: terms of gender, to see if it really is predominantly 308 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: females buying the lounge wear. I suppose. The other awkward 309 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: thing about Third Fix is that his name is Mitch Third. 310 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: It's very much based on his surname, so I couldn't 311 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: really see Tarlia wanting to take over that business herself. 312 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure we will see Tarlia bringing out her own 313 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: fashion range very soon. Well. She has hinted that she 314 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: will be bringing out a new line of bikinis, and 315 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: I think that probably is a very good business move 316 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: for her. I think it's all very sad because they 317 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: were a very successful power couple who people really enjoyed watching, 318 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: and it is a shame that they have parted ways, 319 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: but hopefully it's for the best. Hi guys, I'm Angie 320 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: and welcome to My Hope. Former bachelorette and goggle Box 321 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: star Angie Kent has revealed she would have loved the 322 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: option of having both male and female suitors during her 323 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: season of the Bachelorette, but didn't realize it was an option. Amy, 324 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: can you tell us what she said? Yeah? Well, Angie 325 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: revealed this week that she's pan sexual, which means she's 326 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: attracted to a person regardless of their gender. Speaking to 327 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: TV Week, she said she felt a little stitched up 328 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: by producers who gave her I quote a dozen deeply 329 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: average men to choose from during her season of the Bachelorette. 330 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: She said she never knew it was an option to 331 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: have men and women on her series. Now, I've got 332 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: to agree with Angie, she was given a fairly average 333 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: bunch of men. Yeah. I mean it is hard because 334 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: you think about the men in your life or the 335 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: men that you meet, and not many of them would 336 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: really want to be on the Bachelorette because if you've 337 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: go on the Bachelor or Bachelorette, you really have to 338 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: take a lot of time off work, and most people 339 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: don't really want to be on reality TV. So Angie 340 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: also told The Daily Telegraph, I've always been pan sexual, 341 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: but I guess I have never really spoken about it. 342 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: It is a society thing. I never really got to 343 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: explore it, and now I'm like, go, girl, get amongst it. 344 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: She went on to say that she probably needed the 345 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: heartbreak she experienced with Carlin, who she met on The Bachelorette, 346 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: to realize she wanted to explore it more. She said, 347 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: if I did it again, I would want that option. 348 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: Everything happens for a reason, though. Isn't it great that 349 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Brook season of The Bachelorette is opening up more of 350 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: these discussions about pan sexuality, because I feel like it 351 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: isn't really something we have spoken about, well, that has 352 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: been spoken about in mainstream media before. That's right. And 353 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: the new series of The Bachelorette that you're referring to 354 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: with Brook, it's set to air on October twentieth, and 355 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: Brook is the first bisexual Bachelorette and also the first 356 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: Indigenous woman who has become the Bachelorette. And this week 357 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Ten put out a new promo for this series, and 358 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: legitimately it looks amazing because I have really not been 359 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: impressed with the latest series of The Bachelor and Bachelorette, 360 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of people haven't either. Because Jimmy's series 361 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: rated terribly. I mean I didn't even tune in for 362 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: one episode. That's how little interest I had in the show. 363 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: I watched one episode to see what it was like, 364 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: and that really was. It just seemed really tired. So 365 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: this new promo that tend to put out looks incredible. 366 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: It actually gave me a little shiver down my spine, 367 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: which I don't know if that's really really sad. Maybe 368 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm just hormonal. But they mentioned so many things like 369 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: breaking down barriers and the fact that this is a 370 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: historical series of The Bachelorette, which I thought was really lovely. 371 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: And there's a snippet which shows one of the guys 372 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: and the girls in the house clearly hooking up and 373 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: Brooke finding out. So it seems like there's going to 374 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: be a lot of scandal but also a lot of 375 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: love because the promo revealed that Brook does fall in 376 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: love at the end of the series, but it doesn't 377 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: hint whether that person is male or feet. I feel 378 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: like the Bachelor producers would be shaking in their boots. 379 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: They know that they've got to get this right. It 380 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: was such an appalling series with Jimmy, and I feel 381 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: like everything is writing on this series. They need to 382 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: make it different and more epic than what we've ever 383 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: seen before, and hopefully it can reignite Australia's love affair 384 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: with this show because it is a great show. They've 385 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: just got a cast it properly and wouldn't it be 386 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: incredible if it did rate really well because this is 387 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: a series everybody's been asking for for years and it 388 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: would just show that this is why we need to 389 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: highlight diverse stories on primetime television shows. Bie, I'm going 390 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: to give that woman a Peter in my mind. 391 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: God, please calm no, no, Peter. I will not be becomed. 392 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 3: We have had and I never thought I'd uttered these words. 393 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: The Holiday from Hell. Influencer Lindsey Lee Lergen has launched 394 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: a company which has been described as a glassdoor for influencers. 395 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: The appropriately named business fuck You Pay Me, or FIPM 396 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: for short, helps influencers discover how much they really should 397 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: be charging. Amy, can you tell us about this site? Yeah? So, basically, 398 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: this is a review site that allows influencers or their 399 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: agents to anonymously share how much brands are paying them. 400 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: So each influencer or agent goes through a verification process 401 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: before they're able to post any reviews or see others reviews, 402 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: and the site is completely free to use, but in 403 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: order to be able to access other people's posts, the 404 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: influence or agent needs to first share a review on 405 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: a brand deal. So the site is gaining popularity. It's 406 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: already had three thousand, three hundred and sixty eight reviews, 407 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: and the idea of the website is to make brand 408 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: deals more transparent and help influencers make better decisions about 409 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: brand partnerships. I feel like this site is sort of 410 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: like the Ray of dating apps. It's very difficult to 411 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: get into. The creator of the site said she's approved 412 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven hundred creators, but she has had to deny 413 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: over five thousand people from joining. She said that the 414 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: site doesn't let any brands into the community, so there's 415 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: no incentive for influencers to leave positive reviews. So it 416 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: really is an exclusive site for influencers. And I personally 417 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: would love to get my hands on some of the 418 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: details of these brand deals. Maybe we'll have to make 419 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: up some sort of fake account to get in. So 420 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm already one step ahead of you. I've made up 421 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: a fake account. I've done it all through the Outspoken 422 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: podcast Instagram account excellent, So I've signed up. I have 423 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: to wait forty eight hours before I get in. Maybe 424 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: hopefully they don't listen to this. Yeah, I mean we'll 425 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: be listening. It would be some great content though for 426 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: the podcast if we got in, I know, we'll have 427 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: to keep you guys posted as to whether we do 428 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: get accepted. But it's really interesting because marketers and brand 429 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: managers obviously have mixed feelings about this platform, because many 430 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: have said that there's actually not enough reviews on this 431 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: website for people to get a real understanding about a brand. So, 432 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: for instance, one brand was accused of only giving out 433 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: free products in the review section of this website. But 434 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: this brand had to come out and make a statement 435 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: and said, actually, fifty percent of our influencers are actually 436 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: paid money and the other half a given free product. 437 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Do you think it's 438 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: a little bit unfair to some brands if there are 439 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, only three thousand reviews out there currently, Yeah, well, 440 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: it does make it difficult to get an objective view 441 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: of what the brand is actually like. And I think 442 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: what is super interesting though, is that the influencer market 443 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: is really unregulated in the sense of it's kind of 444 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: disguised the limit. I mean, obviously generally for those who 445 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: don't know, people will work out their prices, you know, 446 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: approximately by determining how many followers they have. But for 447 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: some influencers, they just say fuck it and charge whatever. 448 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: Some influencers just double the price. And in our PR business, 449 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: we've found you can really not ever guess what some 450 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: people are going to charge. Sometimes they can be astronomical prices. Yeah. 451 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: So one brand manager has come out and said that 452 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: she's all for this website and she said it makes 453 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: it a more equal playing field for the influencers because 454 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: often the brands have the upper hand. But she has 455 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: said that she wishes there was a platform where brand 456 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: managers could also review influences, as she's been burnt by 457 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: so many fake influencers in the past. I feel like 458 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: we should almost give some people who may have a 459 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: small business some hints of how to small fake influence. 460 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like we have done it in the past, 461 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: but it has been an issue that has come up 462 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: recently for us as a PR business. But one way 463 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: is to search through who is liking their post. So 464 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: even though someone may look like they have thousands of likes. 465 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: Have a quick look because you will notice very quickly 466 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: if this person has bots, so bots of fake accounts 467 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: that they've purchased, so generally they are accounts that have 468 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: been made overseas. Another key indicator is if they have 469 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: weird comments underneath, so they'll try and look like they're 470 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: engaging with a lot of people through what's called an 471 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: engagement pod, but all of the comments really won't add up. Yeah, 472 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we had a client come to us who 473 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: had been burnt by an influencer, and because Sophie and 474 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: I I suppose know the ins and outs of it, it 475 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: is pretty easy to spot a fake influencer once you 476 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: know the signs. There's also a couple of websites where 477 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: you can actually put in the influencers handle and it 478 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: does give you a rating of how legitimate their following is. 479 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: So that is another great tool and just a tip 480 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: though it is always going to say that there is 481 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: some percentage of the Instagram's followers which are fake, because regardless, 482 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: every account has a few bots that follow them automatically. 483 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: But if an account's coming up and it's saying that 484 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: it's only twenty percent legitimate, I would bet a large 485 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: sum of money that they have bought followers. I think 486 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: you've also just got to use your gut. If you 487 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: take a look at someone's feet and it's so esthetic 488 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: and they're not putting their personality out there, and there's 489 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: really nothing that people are connecting with, and you're saying 490 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: to yourself, why is anyone following this person? Generally, that's 491 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: your gut telling you that person is probably a fake. Hi, guys, 492 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: my name is Sammy Robinson and welcome back to Bondai 493 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 1: Sam's YouTube channel. It looks like Sammy Robinson and her 494 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: rumored bow Jordan Simmy, are no longer an item after 495 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: Jordan revealed on his podcast that he's going through a 496 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: breakup that's left him unable to sleep at night. Sophie, 497 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: what happened? Well, Amy, As we did touch on a 498 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, there have been rumors circulating that 499 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson and rugby player and podcast at Jordan Simmy 500 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: were an item after followers spotted them out on any Lockdown, 501 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: swims and walks in Sydney, and it did cause quite 502 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: a stir as it was soon after Sammy split from 503 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: her long term partner Nick Wheatley, But it seems like 504 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: the relationship is already over before it began. Now, I 505 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: took one for the team and listened to the majority, 506 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: not all, but the majority of Jordan Simmy's most recent podcast, 507 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: which is entitled He's Done It Again Broken Heart. Now. 508 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: Before the podcast even started, I thought, well, this one 509 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: really isn't for me. It started with a condom advert 510 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: where Jordan says everyone knows I like to fuck, so 511 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: I have aligned with a brand I really connect with. 512 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a wanker. I mean, particularly to 513 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: have that ad when you're about to talk about a 514 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: breakup song, I love to fuck. Like it just you 515 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: get the impression he's wanting to fuck, go around or 516 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: equal these girls. It sounds like a fuck boy, don't it? 517 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: Like Sammy, you've dodged a bullet? Oh one hundred percent. 518 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: So this podcast then started with a breakup song called 519 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: guess they call it the Blues, And this song went 520 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: on for quite a bit. It seemed like he and 521 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: his co hosts, we're trying to take somewhat of a 522 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 1: comical sort of take on the breakup. So Jordan's co 523 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: host started off by saying that Jordan was looking very 524 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: slim and basically Jordan said that he wasn't sure if 525 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: it was to do with anxiety or sadness. He also 526 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: revealed that he hasn't been eating and admitted that he's 527 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: been having a lot of difficulty sleeping at night because 528 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: he is that upset. The host then said, look, we're 529 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: not going to go too much into it, but you 530 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: are going through a breakup at the moment, So his 531 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: co host then sort of led into the breakup by saying, look, 532 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: we were laughing about how happy you were last week, 533 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: but unfortunately it seems like this is the fairy tale 534 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: that wasn't meant to be. You've done it again now 535 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: this year've done it again? Was very interesting. I think 536 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: this was a comment about his previous breakup with Isabelle Clark, 537 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: so he seems to have been the reason for a 538 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: lot of breakups recently. Look, if I was Jordan, I 539 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: also be kicking myself about losing Sammy Robins. She's my 540 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: number one girl crush. Be heartbroken. I wouldn't be up 541 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: to sleep either. 542 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 2: Well. 543 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Jordan took full responsibility for the split and said as 544 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: soon as things start getting good in his life, he 545 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: begins to self destruct. He said, he hurts the closest 546 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: people to him unintentionally. So he opened up and said 547 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: he'd been seeing a counselor, but things were going so 548 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: well that he stopped seeing her. He said, what goes 549 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: hand in hand with these situations is drinking, and he 550 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: knows it's his trigger for this sort of behavior. He said, 551 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: after what's gone on, he will be seeking counseling again 552 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: and urged others to do so. He said, this time 553 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: it's different, and he shattered, let's have a listen to 554 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: more of what he said. 555 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: You know, I self sabotage. I get attached to people 556 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 3: and I start to make up like stories in my mind. Shit, 557 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: that's going to happen, and then you and then you 558 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: just fucking you just blow up. So I don't know, man, 559 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: I've decided to. 560 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: Do you were doing well, you don't have to say 561 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: it so dark. 562 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I've decided to take like take a little take 563 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 3: a little break. 564 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: Now, if we read between the lines that it sounds 565 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: like alcohol and possibly I'm just putting out there. It's 566 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: not confirmed. Possibly cheating may have had something to do 567 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: with this breakup, because they did wrap up the segment 568 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: by saying that Jordan's fucked up and that he's apologized 569 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: profusely for what's happened. 570 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: Wow. 571 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Now. It was also interesting because Sammy also commented on 572 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: her relationship status last week in a Q and A 573 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: on her Instagram. She was asked are you seeing anyone? 574 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: And she posted a photo of herself with her eyes 575 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: glancing to the side and wrote no. Now if you 576 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: take a deeper look as well, they are both no 577 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: longer following each other on Instagram. It's clear something has happened. 578 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: I did pretty pissed off as well if I was 579 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: Sammy and I'd just broken up with this guy. And 580 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: then he's on a full podcast episode when he and 581 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: she know that everyone have been speculating about their relationship. Well, 582 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: the thing is, it didn't actually name her in the podcast, 583 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: but apparently this is something he does quite often. He 584 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: just speaks about girls that he's dating, but doesn't actually 585 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: give them a name. I suppose it's kind of for respectful, 586 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: but I think the timing of this podcast is a 587 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: little disrespectful, considering it sounds like they only broke up 588 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, do you know what is super awkward? Though? What? So? 589 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: On Friday, afternoon, he uploaded an Instagram story, just a 590 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: photo of himself kind of like biting his lip, and 591 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: he wrote, I miss you. I mean clearly directed at 592 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Sammy Gosh, as if that's going to get her attention. Well, 593 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: she's actually just invited her sister to move into her 594 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: new apartment with her, so maybe she is needing someone 595 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: to lean on at the moment. It would be very 596 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: difficult going through two breakups in the space of a lockdown. Well, 597 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: at least Sydney's about to open up for Sammy. I 598 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: feel so happy for everyone in Sydney. It must be 599 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: such a relief. I do not know how they've gone 600 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: through three months of lockdown. It would be absolute hell 601 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: on Earth. Well, I think there'll be plenty of guys 602 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: lining up, and maybe even Sophie lining up for a chance. 603 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm a taken woman, but you know, you never know. Well, 604 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for today. Thank 605 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: you so much for listening to another episode about Spoken, 606 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: And if you have enjoyed today's show, could you please 607 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: make sure that you rate and review And we also 608 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: love to see where you're listening from, so if you 609 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: can put up an instant story and tag Us at 610 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Outspoken Underscore the Underscored podcast. We would love that. And 611 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone noticed, but Kate whenefit am 612 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: i a in the podcast because Kate's in laws wrapped 613 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: up and we were halfway through a screaming argument about 614 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: one of the topics. So sorry, Bevan Day, sorry about that. 615 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: Feeling pretty humiliated right now, and for those who probably 616 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: don't have the context to it, we did not include 617 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: the screaming enough. This is Kate, Sophi and I having 618 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: an argument about the podcast topics. What poor brand and 619 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: poor Brannon every week he's in the other room listening 620 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: to the screaming. So it was a bit of a 621 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: time Kate that your in law's got to know a 622 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: little bit better. We have discussed though that we think 623 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: maybe when we hit two million downloads, we'll have to 624 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: reveal some of the highlights of our arguments because they 625 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: are locally funny to listen to. It wouldn't take much 626 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: time to look through them, because it's like just one 627 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: an episode. We've got the could chatter where Reese's parents 628 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: said they saw a different side of me. Oh oh really, 629 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: that's because Kate literally saying yep, yep. 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