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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, rumors are swelling that Olivia

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Speaker 1: Rodgers has a new man. Sophie Goodeluin's former sister in

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Speaker 1: law's call out her fitness app, and a pall comes

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Speaker 1: face to face with an A lister in the bathroom

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Speaker 1: and Meta opens the bluetick floodgates.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Outspoken.

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Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture

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Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and as someone

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Speaker 1: who is currently planning a wedding, this story really caught

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Speaker 1: my attention this week. So the media are reporting that

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Speaker 1: a bride has been left fuming after a guest asked

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Speaker 1: to skip the Michelin Star meal to instead go to

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Speaker 1: Maca's down the road. What are your immediate thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that usually.

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Speaker 1: Something you do after the meal, particularly if it's a

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Speaker 1: disappointing meal. I feel like there surely is more to it,

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Speaker 1: because who is choosing a macusburger over a Michelin Star meal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as you do this guest.

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Speaker 1: She turned to Reddit to air her grievances about this wedding,

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Speaker 1: and she explained that it was a colleague's wedding who

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Speaker 1: she was attending, and before the wedding, she actually asked

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Speaker 1: the bride, are there any upfront costs?

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Speaker 2: So, which is a weird question. I think maybe she.

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Speaker 1: Heard the woman talking about it and it sounded a

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Speaker 1: bit like it'd be one of those stingy weddings you

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Speaker 1: go to. Well, the bride said, no, there won't be

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Speaker 1: any extra costs. So she said that when she arrived

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Speaker 1: at this reception she was blindsided because on the menu

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Speaker 1: there were prices.

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Speaker 2: What yeah, And she said that it was very expensive.

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Speaker 1: So a steak was fifty dollars, and she said that

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Speaker 1: even the vegetarian options were very expensive. And she didn't

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Speaker 1: bring any money really to the wedding, just you know,

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Speaker 1: ten dollars in her purse. She should have dipped into

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Speaker 1: the wedding well taken back her money.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I wanted to know.

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Speaker 1: Whether they had to give presents, because can you imagine

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Speaker 1: rocking up with a pretty generous gift and then you

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Speaker 1: discover that you have to pay for the meal. In

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Speaker 1: that instance, I would definitely be dipping into the wishing

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Speaker 1: well gift that I had given. I'd be like fuck this.

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Speaker 1: That's why they locked the boxes though, she's been trying

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Speaker 1: to get your card back out.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Upon receiving this menu, she thought to herself, I can't

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Speaker 1: actually afford this, and then she remembered that there was

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Speaker 1: a McDonald's down the road about five minutes. So she

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Speaker 1: proceeded to go up to the bride, who was enjoying

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Speaker 1: her meal, and say, sorry, I can't afford this. Do

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Speaker 1: you mind if I nip out and get McDonald's. I'll

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Speaker 1: be back before the cake cutting. Yeah, I'm sorry, But like,

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Speaker 1: regardless about what you think of this woman charging guests

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Speaker 1: to order food, why would you ever interrupt the.

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Speaker 2: Bride and say this?

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Speaker 1: Just be a normal person and either have a little

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Speaker 1: bitch at the table about having to pay for the

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Speaker 1: food or nip out, come back, or have it after.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she thought that she had to tell the bride

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Speaker 1: because she was going to somehow be charged for it,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know how that would work. Is it

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Speaker 1: that everyone's splitting the bill or people are paying for

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Speaker 1: their own meal? Like again, that would be a complete

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Speaker 1: nightmare to work out. Well, it would be a hard

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Speaker 1: one to track and understandably, the bride got very upset

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Speaker 1: having to pay for the meal, and she said, what

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Speaker 1: I meant is there was no attention. Didn't be you

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Speaker 1: literally assume that you'd get a five course meal.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you're cheaper than I thought.

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Speaker 1: Attendance for you hang on what people are meant to

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Speaker 1: pay to attend someone's wedding. I know that there is

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Speaker 1: you think the meal and the drink's cost. However, I

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Speaker 1: to get everything back paid. No, weddings are not a

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Speaker 1: tickett event. I think you need to be upfront if

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Speaker 1: don't actually bring a gift. Also, be like bring cash

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Speaker 1: because again, as I said, how the hell are you

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Speaker 1: going to navigate that bill? Also, I find it very

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Speaker 2: You charge guests go to a pub.

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Speaker 1: I would love to know in our Facebook community, have

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Speaker 1: Olivia Rogers. Five months on from a shock marriage breakdown,

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Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has been linked to model Morgan Waterhouse. The

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Speaker 1: former Miss Universe Australia addressed the relationship speculation, neither confirming

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Speaker 1: or denying the rumors. Before we get into it, Kate,

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Speaker 1: Who is Morgan Waterhouse?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: According to his talent bio, Morgan is a twenty nine

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Speaker 1: year old from Coff's Harbor living in Melbourne. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he is a model, content creator and photographer. He also

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Speaker 1: events and brands across Australia. Interestingly, Olivia does feature in

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Speaker 1: quite a few of the Instagram photos on the page.

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Speaker 1: Now Morgan is also seen parting in a lot of

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Speaker 1: the photos with Australian influences and reality contestants including Rhyese Hawkins,

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Speaker 1: Josh Miller and Love Island Australia contestants. Now, when I

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Speaker 1: heard the name Waterhouse. I wondered if there was some

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Speaker 1: so there must be some link to the Waterhouse family,

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Speaker 2: I love this for Olivia though.

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Speaker 1: The fact it's this super hot model guy that she's

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Speaker 1: The only thing is, I'm not really a fan of

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Speaker 1: the fact that it appears he's a party boy, because

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Speaker 1: I feel like Justin McKean was a bit of a

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Speaker 2: He's in PR.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Amy and I are in PR and we

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Speaker 1: hate parties. And also, but he's photographed at so many parties.

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Speaker 1: But she goes out all the time as well. You

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Speaker 2: Also. He maybe he's just a rebound. This might not

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Speaker 1: God, could just be some fun guy that she's hanging

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Speaker 1: out with to get over Justin. Look, yeah, he definitely

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Speaker 1: probably is a rebound. Now. In terms of how all

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Speaker 1: these rumors got started, of course it was influencer updates Aau.

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Speaker 1: She sparked the speculation when the account shared that Olivia

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Speaker 1: view from Olivia's apartment on Thursday morning. My lvy in

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Speaker 1: depth investigation that went on from influencer updates a you,

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Speaker 1: influencer updates au believes that Morgan took Olivia out to Jakaloop,

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Speaker 1: celebrate her birthday. So Morgan shared a reel from his stay,

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Speaker 1: and in the video, he basically soft launched a relationship

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Speaker 1: by showing a woman's hand in the video, which looks

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Speaker 1: I also noticed under Morgan's reel that a couple of

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Speaker 1: his friends were saying, ooh, soft launch now. I was

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Speaker 1: inspired by this investigation, so I have done my own

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Speaker 1: stalking and I definitely think the pair are together. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: Morgan has liked nearly every single one of Olivia's posts

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Speaker 1: on one of Morgan's TikTok so. He posted about going

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Speaker 1: appears Olivia and Morgan were out together again celebrating their

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Speaker 1: both photographed out wearing matching pearl bracelets. They also appeared

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Speaker 1: She was quoted as saying, I've known Morgan for a

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Speaker 1: while through Paul. We've been running together and I helped

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Speaker 1: way to get to know someone. Well. It says in

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Speaker 1: the Herald Sun article that she hosed down speculation, but

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Speaker 1: It sounds as if they're dating. Oh, definitely. I think

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Speaker 1: between Justin and Olivia. It sort of cements in my

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Speaker 1: especially if they're writing articles and they're able to reach

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Speaker 2: They could actually be quite good together. Because I wonder

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Speaker 2: in her relationship with Justin, he isn't an influencer. He

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he got frustrated by all the waiting

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Speaker 1: around because every time they'd be on holidays, she'd do

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Speaker 1: this From a content perspective, it's going to be great

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Speaker 1: a lot of insight into their relationship. I wonder because

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Speaker 1: there's been so much speculation around whether Justin is dating someone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've spoken a lot about it on our podcast.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this a big sort of revenge moment for her,

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Speaker 2: To be verified.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very wishful thinking from your end. Amy

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Speaker 1: I don't think they care about trolls because trolls create engagement.

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Speaker 1: They care about money. I think that we are going

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Speaker 1: to see all of our social media platforms move towards

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Speaker 1: this subscription base because that's the only way they're going

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Speaker 1: to be able to survive and make money.

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Speaker 5: Guess who I met at the tail Swift concert tonight.

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Speaker 1: TikToker Anna pol has come face to face with an

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Speaker 1: A lister whilst visiting the bathroom at Taylor Swift's Eras

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Speaker 1: tour in Las Vegas. Firstly, I didn't know Anna was

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Speaker 1: such a diehard Swift year. I was so surprised when

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Speaker 1: I saw Anna pop up at the Tailor Swift concert

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Speaker 1: because these ticks have been incredibly tough to come by

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Speaker 1: and also very expensive. News dot com reported that the

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Speaker 1: nosebleed seeds at the Las Vegas show was setting fans

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Speaker 1: back five hundred and two dollars, and if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to be on the floor, the ticket started from one

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Speaker 1: thou two hundred dollars. I mean, clearly money isn't an

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Speaker 1: issue for Anna, but it must have taken her some

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Speaker 1: dedication to actually snap up these tickets because I heard

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Speaker 1: a lot of people were waiting online for eight hours

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Speaker 1: at a time to try and get them, and they

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Speaker 1: still didn't end up with tickets. I would have assumed

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Speaker 1: that maybe her management had something to do with the tickets,

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Speaker 1: particularly when you consider who she ran into in the bathrooms. Yeah. Well.

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Speaker 1: Anna shared to her six million followers on TikTok that

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Speaker 1: she had an unlikely encounter whilst visiting the bathrooms at

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Speaker 1: the concert. So she said that during the middle of

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Speaker 1: the show, her partner Glenn said, Oh, I really need

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Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to come?

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Speaker 1: So she's like, oh, okay, So she ducked off to

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Speaker 1: the toilets during one of the songs, and she said

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Speaker 1: that it was really empty, apart from another girl who

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Speaker 1: was washing her hands, and that girl happened to be

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Speaker 1: Emma Watson. Here's what Anna said.

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Speaker 5: So I go to the bathroom, I come out, the

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Speaker 5: bathroom is practically empty, and as I'm washing my hands,

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Speaker 5: a girl is next to me and she looks at me.

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Speaker 5: I look at her. I look away, and I thought, no,

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Speaker 5: it can't be. I look back at her. She looks

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Speaker 5: back at me. I look away again, she looks away again.

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Speaker 5: I can't believe it. Tell me why Hermione Granger, tell

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Speaker 5: me why Emma Watson is washing her hands next to

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Speaker 5: me in the Taylor Swift concert bathrooms. Now we've been

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Speaker 5: in the party bathroom from actress ask you we ah.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely classic that Anna referenced the line from Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift's ten minute version of All Too Well.

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Speaker 2: It just shows what a fan she is. Did you see?

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Speaker 1: She also filmed a TikTok of her miming to all

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Speaker 1: Too Well at the.

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Speaker 2: Concert, and that was so good.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Anna then went on to explain that.

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Speaker 1: She and her brother Adie a huge Harry Potter fans,

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Speaker 1: and she debated whether she should say something to Emma

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Speaker 1: or not. She then came to the conclusion that she

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Speaker 1: would regret it for the rest of her life if

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Speaker 1: she didn't ask Emma for a photo.

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Speaker 2: Here's what she said.

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Speaker 5: So, as she was walking out, I was like, excuse me.

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Speaker 5: She turned around. She's like yes, I said, I was

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Speaker 5: wondering if I could please And as I said it,

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Speaker 5: she was like, oh, I'm so sorry. And I was like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: that's so fine. Enjoy the concert and she said you too,

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Speaker 5: Like she was so nice. So Emma Watson told me

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Speaker 5: to enjoy a tail Swift concept. Okay, that's all.

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Speaker 1: I actually felt so sorry for Anna in that moment.

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Speaker 1: She took it really well and was still excited. But

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Speaker 1: if I'd asked for a photo and got rejected, I

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Speaker 1: would not have been happy. I would have been so embarrassed. Well,

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Speaker 1: according to devoted Harry Potter fans in the comment section,

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Speaker 1: they said that Emma often refuses fan photos because of

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Speaker 1: privacy reasons.

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Speaker 2: I do feel like if.

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Speaker 1: Emma had taken the photo, it would have just caused

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Speaker 1: a domino effect and everyone would have rushed up for

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Speaker 1: a photo. So I'm guessing Emma Watson didn't know who

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Speaker 1: Anna Paul was. Well, that's what a lot of people

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Speaker 1: were saying in the comment section. They're like, does Emma

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Speaker 1: Watson know who she met?

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Speaker 2: She should have asked you for a photo.

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Speaker 1: It's not wild because I love Harry Potter so much

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Speaker 1: and I love Taylor Swift so much, and to think

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Speaker 1: of those two worlds coming together. It was pretty crazy

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Speaker 1: because there were all these tiktoks and fans had captured

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Speaker 1: vision of Emma in the crowd dancing along. I have

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Speaker 1: seen so many videos on TikTok of one of the

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Speaker 1: security guards dancing. I can't remember her name, but she's

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Speaker 1: gone viral and everyone loves her well. There have been

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Speaker 1: heaps of other celebrities that have gone viral on TikTok

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Speaker 1: for getting too into Taylor Swift's concert. So Emma Stone

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Speaker 1: and also Gigi had Did were captured dancing and singing along.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited because there's a rumor circulating that Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift has booked out the MCG, which means she is

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Speaker 1: coming to Australia. She hasn't been here since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: There have been so many people getting really into their

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Speaker 1: costumes for the Taylor Swift concert. It kind of reminds

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Speaker 1: me of how people dressed up the Harry styles and

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Speaker 1: it's a huge thing on TikTok what you're wearing. And

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Speaker 1: I loved it because Anna Paul re shared this video

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Speaker 1: and one of the outfits that caught my attention was

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Speaker 1: this guy wearing a black T shirt with Jake Gillenhall

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Speaker 1: on it and I had a big red cross over

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Speaker 1: him and I was thinking because people were getting so

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Speaker 1: into it, and I know when we went to this

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift concert in Adelaide, in twenty fifteen, we purposely

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Speaker 1: dressed up because we heard on the street that Taylor's

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Speaker 1: people were picking people out from the crowd if you

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Speaker 1: had dressed up. So what if that's still a thing? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it is still a thing. She is very

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Speaker 1: much focused on her fans and would be hosting those

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Speaker 1: little cool meet and greets.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit different.

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Speaker 1: From Harry styles as people picking out hot girls from

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Speaker 1: the crowd.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: What's frustrating is is that it's going to be so

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Speaker 1: difficult to get tickets and there's going to be all

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Speaker 1: these dickheads who just buy tickets to resell because the

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Speaker 1: US tickets, the cheapest one was around forty four American

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Speaker 1: dollars and then you know, so if you've mentioned that

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Speaker 1: some of them are now costing one thousand, two hundred.

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Speaker 1: If not, you hope by the time the concert comes

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Speaker 1: to Australia that Taylor's team and the ticketing team would

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Speaker 1: have fixed up issues because it was highly condemned. Getting

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Speaker 1: back to this encounter with Emma Watson, I was having

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Speaker 1: a think about it, and I reckon a bathroom is

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Speaker 1: the worst place to meet a celebrity, because can you

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Speaker 1: imagine having either dirty hands or wet hands. You're going

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Speaker 1: in for a hug or a handshake. Imagine if you've

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Speaker 1: just been sick in the bathroom. This celebrities in the

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Speaker 1: store dust to you. Ducked out, You Emma Watson, You've

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Speaker 1: ducked out to do a quick poo while the songs

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Speaker 1: are Oh yeah. It's embarrassing for both either the celebrity

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Speaker 1: or the fan. Maybe that's why she wanted to vacate

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Speaker 1: the bathroom. I know, just get the fuck out of there.

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Speaker 1: I do think, though, it could be a good spot

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Speaker 1: because so many friendships are made in female toilets at nightclub,

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Speaker 1: so I think you could make friends at a Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift Clencert in the toilet?

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Speaker 2: Would have you?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you were Anna and you saw Emma Watson,

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Speaker 1: would have you asked for a photo in the toilet?

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Speaker 1: I definitely would have. I mean I wouldn't now knowing

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Speaker 1: that she doesn't do photos, but I might have actually

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Speaker 1: just come up to her and said, I'm so sorry

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Speaker 1: to interrupt.

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Speaker 2: I just want to.

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Speaker 1: Say I absolutely love all of you work and what

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Speaker 1: you're about, because then you kind of seem a bit cool. Yeah. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: I mean I would want a photo, though I would

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Speaker 1: definitely say something. Well, that is all we've got time

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Speaker 1: for today. This podcast was recorded on the traditional land

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Speaker 1: of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay

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Speaker 1: respect to Elder's past and present and our subscriber episode

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