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Speaker 1: Good morning to your senator, Yeah, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning Cody in. Good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, before we get into it, I understand that you

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've spent the last four weeks down in Canberra

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Speaker 2: Had to come into Howard Springs when I returned, which, look,

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Speaker 1: Really, So in that fifty five hours, no one's coming

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Speaker 2: Not a single person. I've had someone knock on the

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Speaker 1: Now, Senator, I will to ask you about because this

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Speaker 3: So who do you reckon telling them this kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's frightening, you know how low the uptake is

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Speaker 1: So, Senator, you're not planning on joining any other party

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Speaker 1: After your time is up, you know, in your current

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Speaker 3: Will that be it for you for politics?

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Speaker 1: Or do you reckon that you could move into a

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Speaker 2: areas of politics probably don't interest me as much as

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Speaker 2: the Senate does. But look I've got lots of options.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I sat down with Barnaby Joyce the other

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Speaker 2: day we had a we had a long chat about

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Speaker 2: some sort of things that he would like to see

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Speaker 2: me potentially move into after politics, So you know there's

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of options on the table for me.

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Speaker 1: Well, Senator Sam McMahon, I appreciate your time this morning,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for having a chat with us from the

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Speaker 1: Howard Springs Quarantine facility and we are keen to find out.

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Speaker 1: Please let us know if you do end up getting

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Speaker 1: one of those health and welfare checks and how long

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Speaker 1: it takes for it to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Katie, I will and I'm happy to keep

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Speaker 2: in touch.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. We appreciate out your time this morning.