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Speaker 2: The Will and Moody podcast. So. Taylor A.

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Speaker 3: Humphrey is a woman a decade ago who started posting

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Speaker 3: about her obsession about baby names.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 3: She now makes forty five thousand dollars a name.

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Speaker 2: Who in their right mind would pay forty five grand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for someone to come up with their back Like

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Speaker 1: coming up with the baby name is fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, should be quite a you know, a

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Speaker 1: personal thing to be doing about the trial that you're

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Speaker 1: about to bring into the world. I just can't believe

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Speaker 1: people would like give that job to someone else.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy, isn't it like to think that you're

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Speaker 3: relying on.

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Speaker 2: I Mean, you were just said, we just have to

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Speaker 2: put down to the fact that these people have more

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Speaker 2: money than sense. It's just one.

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Speaker 3: It's like when you find out Jay Z was at

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Speaker 3: a cocktail party where it was twenty thousand dollars a drink. Sure,

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Speaker 3: money is just not a thing anymore, You're right, that

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Speaker 3: just becomes a bit funny.

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Speaker 1: You just start brainstorming about how do I spend all

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Speaker 1: this money that I've got because I need to spend it.

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Speaker 2: So it's those people, right, the status thing as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh my child was named by Taylor A Humphrey. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think is that name of Taylor Humphrey?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's Humphrey. Is it a Humphrey. Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 2: a piece of art. What's your child called Spade? Oh

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Speaker 2: it's a Humphrey. Yeah. Right, and they'll all be names

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Speaker 2: like that. Sure. Do you have any examples of names

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Speaker 2: that she goes for?

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Speaker 3: No, eiugh, I do know that she did one hundred

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Speaker 3: names in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's good, it's good. So she works one hundred

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Speaker 1: days out of three sixty five.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so she did one hundred names and at forty

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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars a name, four hundred and fifty K.

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Speaker 3: So then she did no, she made four point five

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Speaker 3: million dollars US. Oh my from naming kids in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Not not shabby.

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Speaker 2: How is someone undercutter?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: How how is someone noting this and going.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like the same thing as like if

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Speaker 3: you walk, you know, you saw a Jackson pollock and

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Speaker 3: you're like, wow, it's a pollock and then someone goes,

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Speaker 3: I'll throw some paint with a brush on him.

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Speaker 2: So true. You know you're not paying sixty million dollars

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Speaker 2: for it. Yeah, it's very true. To Pollock, it's very true.

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Speaker 3: Do you although, I mean, picking a nap out of

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Speaker 3: a dictionary does seem like an easier process than painting

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Speaker 3: on canvas.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you think? Do you think Humphrey like

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Speaker 2: creates a presentation like a PowerPoint slide go through? Here

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Speaker 2: are the reasons I thought of this hat and.

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Speaker 3: This day and age would be the star sign. It'd be,

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Speaker 3: you know, tied in with what Chinese New.

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Speaker 2: Year it was. Should have that all.

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Speaker 1: The all the the planets would be aligning. She'd have

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Speaker 1: to be good at the jargon. It's the reasoning behind.

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Speaker 2: Then.

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Speaker 1: I think we're trying to get Humphrey on, aren't we,

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Speaker 1: Taylor A we are We're a line in the water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've reached out. No, she's busy, busy, she works

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Speaker 2: a hundred days a year. She's busy.

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Speaker 1: Shed to do a contra. A contra and that's the

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Speaker 1: industry term for we'll give.

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Speaker 2: For your name. I thought you've already chosen a name.

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Speaker 2: But if it's a Humphrey.

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Speaker 3: Man, No, I haven't chosen my name yet, wife, I

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Speaker 3: haven't chosen.

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Speaker 2: My name yet.

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Speaker 1: Sure I would like the Humphrey. I think we'll both

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Speaker 1: get a Humphrey and too.

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Speaker 2: Humphreys for free. When it's ninety that's ninety thousand US

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Speaker 2: for two names.

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Speaker 1: Contra, we're giving a yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look it does remind I am actually in a bind

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Speaker 3: trying to pick our baby name at the moment. I

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Speaker 3: actually might need to get a Humphrey if we do

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Speaker 3: get a Humphrey, and I might need her because Sam

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Speaker 3: takes none of my baby name seriously, like quite ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: To the point where.

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Speaker 3: You feel I feel disenfranchised in that conversation.

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Speaker 2: She's taken away all my power. You pitched Persephone for

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Speaker 3: Beautiful name, Percy, beautiful story, beautiful stories. Well hate his

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Speaker 3: wife dragted to the underworld. Anyway, Look, I love forseephone.

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Speaker 3: It's got a great story behind as well. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: she thinks all my names are a joke, and it's

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Speaker 3: got to the point now where I'm just now pitching awful.

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Speaker 2: Names at her. I kind of want to do I

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Speaker 2: want to do it on the air up next because

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Speaker 2: it's a fun bit. She hates it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not helping yourself though. This boy who cried

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Speaker 1: wolf Wolf's are good night wolf talking about this? This

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Speaker 1: this professional baby name it Taylor A.

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Speaker 3: Humphrey lives in San Francisco. Forty five thousand dollars A pop.

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Speaker 2: Her her name your baby. That's just what she what

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Speaker 2: she charges woods. Now before we get into I love it.

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Speaker 2: I kind of respect her.

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Speaker 1: Now the more I think about it, the more I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you found a hole in the market that no one

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Speaker 1: thought was there. Well, she said, she's actually said, she said,

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Speaker 1: it's actually a bit of a.

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Speaker 3: Shame when people make fun of me on the internet.

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Speaker 3: But then she said, at the same time, it's kind

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Speaker 3: of silly that I come up with baby names for

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Speaker 3: a living.

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Speaker 1: So she's leaning in. She's leading five million dollars to say,

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Speaker 1: she's leaning into the cash. She's hardcore leaning into the cash.

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Speaker 3: She's in the Bay Area in San Francisco where people

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Speaker 3: have just got monopoly money, and she's she's killing it.

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Speaker 2: We could take over Australia. We could be her Australian wing.

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Speaker 1: We could be So she's got this website. You guys

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Speaker 1: can go on it's called name Brie and to people

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Speaker 1: just copy the humphries though, like you hear about the

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Speaker 1: Humphries that she's gone for, yeah, and then you just

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Speaker 1: take the name.

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Speaker 3: Like she revealed some of the names there bespoke, so

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Speaker 3: whole idea is that these influences and celebrities and stuff

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Speaker 3: that send their kids to daycare, they don't want to

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of the challenges. You want to try

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Speaker 3: and make a name that's unique but also is not

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Speaker 3: like on the nose if you like. So if some

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Speaker 3: examples are poetry Lucia, sorry a name poetry Lucia is

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Speaker 3: the full name, so poetry Lucia and then the last.

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Speaker 2: Name rumble honey.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, there's a couple there, so do you get like

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Speaker 1: a TakeBack though it's like if I plaid forty five,

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Speaker 1: she goes rumble honey.

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Speaker 2: Surely there's no reviews, go back to the bank, do

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Speaker 2: whatever you do, But I'm not named a child rumble honey.

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Speaker 2: Are they all hyphenated? There are two words that's also

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Speaker 2: in vogue. That's the telltale sign of a Humphrey.

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Speaker 3: That it's two okay, anyway, I can't read that anymore

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Speaker 3: of them apparently, Oh yeah, right anyway, so Woodrow.

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Speaker 1: So rumble Honey is a like famous daughter of like

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Speaker 1: a famous model in America?

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Speaker 2: Is that right? That's already writing? Oh oh, rumble Honey

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Speaker 2: is already a famous celeb. Rumble Honey is a little

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Speaker 2: girl like Lucky be Smith is her dude. I don't

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Speaker 2: know who that is. But did all sound like fake people?

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Speaker 2: Did Lucky B Smith hire Taylor Humphrey?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. You don't know that. You can't

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Speaker 2: come up rumble Honey.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me that someone's coming with them rumble Honey

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Speaker 3: off their own head, hump all over it.

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Speaker 2: That's why she's the best. You don't know b Smith

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Speaker 2: as well? And the other kids are slim easy and whimsy.

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Speaker 1: Loo Whimsy Lose sounds like a Humphrey.

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Speaker 2: They're not real anyway, Whimsy Loo's got Humphrey all over it? Right?

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Speaker 2: Does it does? Anyway? Look?

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Speaker 3: I am in the position now where my baby names

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Speaker 3: just aren't landing with my partner Sam pitching names.

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Speaker 2: She's twenty four weeks pregnant.

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Speaker 3: She just she actually just mocks the names that I pick,

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Speaker 3: which is unfair, so in retaliation, and yes, I know

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Speaker 3: this is childish woods and this I am childish sometimes

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Speaker 3: particularly and I don't get my way. So what I've

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Speaker 3: started doing is just pitching names that I don't want

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Speaker 3: but are obvious that I don't want.

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Speaker 1: You're doing yourself harm here though, but also never take

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Speaker 1: Also I'm enjoying it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm enjoying it. And then I will wear

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Speaker 2: her down so you can enjoy it. Yeah, you guys,

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Speaker 2: can you guys can enjoy this here.

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Speaker 5: We we're gonna call seven. How I'll put you a

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Speaker 5: fewal rank ones today. Hey, oh hey, how you going?

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 6: Oh you're good? Just stepping away for a second. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's been busy. M Yeah, how are you going there? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: just been a lot going on in your bike helmet.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, lot's going on. That's kind on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice to be and I've got a little

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Speaker 3: a few baby names.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you had a second, but I

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Speaker 2: just don't know how just listen to them?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but are you prepared for my feedback?

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Speaker 2: I know you're going to be savage. That's fine. You

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Speaker 2: might like one. Okay, okay, okay, I really like Randy. Randy,

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Speaker 2: sure you know what that means? No, Randy, do you

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Speaker 2: remember like the Killer Whill?

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Speaker 1: What is that movie called.

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Speaker 2: Very Willy Randy was the Dead? Or like the care Randy?

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Speaker 2: Good memory?

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Speaker 3: I thought you were saying, prey Willy was Randy?

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Speaker 2: What do you like about Randy?

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's playful. It's not like it. I'll

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Speaker 2: get moving. It's fine. No, no, don't like it. It's fine.

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Speaker 2: I'll just keep moving. Why do you want it so funny?

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Speaker 2: It's not fair. This is actually like these names for

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Speaker 2: a new puppy dog here Pegasus. Now that can also

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Speaker 2: be but for a girl that can be piggy.

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Speaker 6: But I like Peggy ruined it for me by making megas.

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Speaker 2: If it's a boy, Peggy, if it's a good well,

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Speaker 2: if you're don't like that, that's fine. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that pepe is back on the tape. Was a great name.

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Speaker 2: One was the other one here the other day it's

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Speaker 2: it's your favorite drink. Can't comes too much bill. It's unfair. Yeah, goodbye, ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you mnd a chart to know you see.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you might see she laughed in my face.

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Speaker 2: Yet nowhere, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to talk about this guy in Chili who has

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Speaker 1: lived out I think the dream that all of us

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Speaker 2: No notes which georgeous? Which gorgeous? Which is in Chili?

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested to hear from you if that happens

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Speaker 2: What's your response to that? Where's the money coming from?

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Speaker 1: Your workplace has paid well, now it's your company. The

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would just like to remove our personal

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Speaker 2: You can't. Oh okay, this.

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Speaker 2: I mean until they come asking. Okay, so you know

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sure, So he takes the money and quits. He

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Speaker 2: Quit. Does he spend it?

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Speaker 1: So it leads to this big legal fight, right because

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Speaker 2: So he's laughing.

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Speaker 3: I think if he I think if he spends it,

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Speaker 2: then I had one hundred fifty thousand for you know, upkeep.

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Speaker 2: What's up keeping? We're talking about clean clean. You got

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things anyway, what I want to

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Speaker 1: The cash fifty I think i'd buy a small company.

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Speaker 2: I just I just walk in and go. I want

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Speaker 1: You want your candle business, children, I want your candle

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Speaker 3: It's actually really hard to think of what you would

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I want to focus on what you spend

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Speaker 1: and have you quit your job?

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Speaker 1: That is quitting your job in a blaze of glory,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, thirteen one oh six five, have you done it?

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Speaker 1: I think the closest that I've come will and you

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Speaker 2: We're doing that. We started drinking the product.

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Speaker 1: They actually said, can you always hold one of these

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Speaker 2: I'll die on that hill? Sure it, Yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, we were removed from the microphones about halfway through

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Speaker 2: You went in awesome.

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Speaker 3: Damage mount and yeah, in front of like all the

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Speaker 1: And I think everyone thought it was legendary. In my head,

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Speaker 2: He's just paid you three hundred and thirty times your way.

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Speaker 3: Why surely I would just be I'd be slinking off

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Speaker 2: As soon as you do that, they'll be like, that's

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Speaker 2: going on with whitelaw counts quickly? You want to know?

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Speaker 3: No, so really sorry, something horrifics come up in my

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Speaker 2: I know you don't know anything about that, but death

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's smarter, not as fun, and I do want

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Speaker 1: to know. I'm thirteen one o six five. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Tatum here. Tatum, you left work in

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys, Yes I did. I had just got a

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Speaker 2: Annoying thing to pick up, Like, hell, a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: Was it a classy pot plant pot plant takedown?

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Speaker 2: On the way out.

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Speaker 7: No, there was a few. It was about three or

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Speaker 2: The sweep. Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: Let's goside of the studio. Big poop just outside the studio.

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Speaker 2: There that dog?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: The dog? I didn't realize that I was talking about

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Speaker 2: something quite controversial. Controversial? Is it that we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the same dog, aren't we? I think we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the same dog. Controversial and I've just stepped in that

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Speaker 2: mind the pan. How big was the poo? Little poo?

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Speaker 4: Big?

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Speaker 3: The owner doesn't even know that the dog exists. I

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, I've got a dog. That's right.

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Speaker 2: Then the dog two's outside our studio. That's the dog.

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Speaker 2: We're doing mat right, We all know, yeah.

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Speaker 7: We all know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so I was going to cash that dog.

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Speaker 2: Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: I just want to wrap this up that. Yeah, dogs

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Speaker 2: Nat.

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Speaker 1: You you also quit your job and laser glory talk.

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Speaker 2: To us, Nat.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 8: Well, it was quite a few years ago now, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So I lost it and I grabbed a wooden

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Speaker 8: like everyone, So smashed it across his head. And I'm

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Speaker 8: So I jumped in that with my cowboys hat on.

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Speaker 2: That's a blazing glory net. We'll give it to you

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Speaker 2: border on as salt. But let's go to Natasha. Here

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Speaker 1: That wouldn't tickle Natasha. I mean, I've never known one

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Speaker 1: shirt wearing a shirt with two pockets.

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Speaker 2: He's practical. It's a woman's shirt, isn't it. Natasha is

439
00:21:02,509 --> 00:21:02,869
Speaker 2: called that.

440
00:21:03,789 --> 00:21:08,949
Speaker 1: Women's fits better? Natasha, Hello, Natasha? You could you having

441
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Speaker 1: a blaze of glory to talk to us?

442
00:21:10,669 --> 00:21:11,309
Speaker 7: I sure did.

443
00:21:12,189 --> 00:21:14,709
Speaker 9: I've been working in a cafe for a few years.

444
00:21:15,629 --> 00:21:16,789
Speaker 9: All the custom it loves me.

445
00:21:16,909 --> 00:21:19,109
Speaker 4: I loved the job I got let go on the

446
00:21:19,149 --> 00:21:22,349
Speaker 4: spot just because they couldn't afford to keep everyone there.

447
00:21:22,589 --> 00:21:24,549
Speaker 10: The business wasn't doing too good.

448
00:21:25,189 --> 00:21:28,229
Speaker 9: So I spent the whole day giving everyone free coffees

449
00:21:28,309 --> 00:21:31,989
Speaker 9: and free breakfast.

450
00:21:31,989 --> 00:21:37,109
Speaker 2: Where it hurts, don't where it hurts. Love that.

451
00:21:37,429 --> 00:21:40,229
Speaker 3: So from December tenth, social media platforms are forced to

452
00:21:40,269 --> 00:21:44,069
Speaker 3: block out under sixteen in Australia from holding accounts. Look,

453
00:21:44,109 --> 00:21:47,469
Speaker 3: I honestly I think that this the intent behind this

454
00:21:47,629 --> 00:21:49,989
Speaker 3: is obviously wonderful. I have not got a teenager yet,

455
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:53,709
Speaker 3: but I'm terrified about what the internet will do to that.

456
00:21:53,869 --> 00:21:57,509
Speaker 2: Being said, I think this is.

457
00:22:01,229 --> 00:22:03,149
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to work, and I think

458
00:22:03,189 --> 00:22:05,949
Speaker 3: it's and I think it's lazy, and I think it

459
00:22:06,389 --> 00:22:13,149
Speaker 3: actually demonstrates a deep misunderstanding of how the Internet works.

460
00:22:13,629 --> 00:22:18,509
Speaker 3: Number one, and number two, how naive parents are about

461
00:22:18,509 --> 00:22:20,309
Speaker 3: the fact that they think they can keep people off

462
00:22:20,309 --> 00:22:25,109
Speaker 3: it like it it is so easy to get around,

463
00:22:25,109 --> 00:22:29,389
Speaker 3: like to get around these sorts of things on the Internet.

464
00:22:29,509 --> 00:22:34,309
Speaker 3: And I think it is really just an attempt in

465
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Speaker 3: vain for parents to protect themselves and their own guilt

466
00:22:38,029 --> 00:22:40,549
Speaker 3: around how their kid might be manipulated by something they're

467
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:42,629
Speaker 3: watching online. And I think it is also the guilt

468
00:22:42,629 --> 00:22:44,469
Speaker 3: over the fact that they've got no control over their

469
00:22:44,749 --> 00:22:46,148
Speaker 3: screen time and their Enginet usage.

470
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Speaker 2: Cop that elbow. So how will it work though?

471
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Speaker 1: So those facial recognitions episodes where so that's it. So

472
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Speaker 1: you'll put your face up to your phone, yes, and

473
00:22:57,389 --> 00:22:59,989
Speaker 1: then the facial recognition will know if you are older

474
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Speaker 1: or younger than sixteen.

475
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Speaker 3: I think that's so basically you got to register analyze

476
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Speaker 3: the person's face and there's going to be a bunch

477
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Speaker 3: of technolo.

478
00:23:07,789 --> 00:23:09,669
Speaker 1: There's going to be a bunch of technologies. I think

479
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:11,589
Speaker 1: that will all depend on So isn't this good though

480
00:23:11,629 --> 00:23:13,149
Speaker 1: that because I know so, don't get me wrong. I

481
00:23:13,189 --> 00:23:16,149
Speaker 1: think the smart smart kids will figure out a way

482
00:23:16,189 --> 00:23:17,309
Speaker 1: to crack the code or whatever.

483
00:23:17,349 --> 00:23:18,749
Speaker 2: But let's say if it blocks, well.

484
00:23:18,709 --> 00:23:22,469
Speaker 3: There's no code anymore, you'll probably just download NAP right, Okay,

485
00:23:22,869 --> 00:23:25,589
Speaker 3: you're just download a VPN. I mean, just download a VPN,

486
00:23:25,709 --> 00:23:28,269
Speaker 3: bounce your bounce your bounce your ip off a mirror

487
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Speaker 3: website and it'll just think you're logging in from the

488
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Speaker 3: Netherlands and then it'll be like, oh, okay, no software required, cheers.

489
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Speaker 1: But I don't know how to do that. I have

490
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Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old. We do that currently for

491
00:23:36,309 --> 00:23:38,669
Speaker 1: our three year old. You could download a VPN tomorrow.

492
00:23:39,429 --> 00:23:40,989
Speaker 2: But okay, but let's just say, let's just look.

493
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Speaker 1: I promise you, as a fifteen year old, I don't

494
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Speaker 1: know how to do it, you're but as a fifteen

495
00:23:44,429 --> 00:23:46,269
Speaker 1: year old, kids do know how to do this stuff.

496
00:23:46,309 --> 00:23:48,389
Speaker 1: Oh is the kids are way more savvy on phones

497
00:23:48,429 --> 00:23:50,389
Speaker 1: these days than you are. Right, if they wanted to

498
00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:53,949
Speaker 1: block you out there, just you'd probably just type block

499
00:23:53,989 --> 00:23:56,029
Speaker 1: around the phone. If you done in December ten, I'll

500
00:23:56,069 --> 00:23:57,429
Speaker 1: be like, why can't I get into Instagram?

501
00:23:58,189 --> 00:23:59,749
Speaker 2: What's wrong? Is my fat tech needed?

502
00:23:59,789 --> 00:24:01,589
Speaker 1: But will block any one lover? Like is there a

503
00:24:01,629 --> 00:24:03,869
Speaker 1: percentage there where it's like, okay, this this These kids

504
00:24:03,869 --> 00:24:05,749
Speaker 1: haven't look that.

505
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:09,349
Speaker 3: History has shown as a billion times and billion times

506
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Speaker 3: over if you try and ban age groups or people

507
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:16,829
Speaker 3: from things that they can get around, they will get

508
00:24:16,869 --> 00:24:19,429
Speaker 3: around it. I think makes it sexier in a way,

509
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:22,909
Speaker 3: and even like Australia's probably the only country in the

510
00:24:22,949 --> 00:24:26,269
Speaker 3: world that this could work because where the most overly

511
00:24:26,309 --> 00:24:29,469
Speaker 3: governed country in the world and we actually can enforce

512
00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:30,749
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no other country in the world that

513
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:32,829
Speaker 3: could have gone into lockdown like we went into lockdown.

514
00:24:32,869 --> 00:24:34,509
Speaker 3: Sure every other country in the world looked at that

515
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:36,229
Speaker 3: and was like are you guys mad?

516
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Speaker 2: Like how are you doing that? We Australians, we're quite

517
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Speaker 2: proud to be obedient people.

518
00:24:40,269 --> 00:24:42,148
Speaker 3: So I do think it is possible in Australia that

519
00:24:42,189 --> 00:24:45,229
Speaker 3: this sort of thing could take in a social setting

520
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:47,469
Speaker 3: because everyone's very careful in Australia. We like to be

521
00:24:47,509 --> 00:24:50,109
Speaker 3: safe and clean and careful. But the reality is you're

522
00:24:50,109 --> 00:24:52,069
Speaker 3: dealing with the internet. The Internet's not based anywhere. The

523
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:55,549
Speaker 3: Internet was designed to be controlled by end to end users,

524
00:24:55,589 --> 00:24:57,549
Speaker 3: there's no That's why you can't sue anyone who's done

525
00:24:57,629 --> 00:24:59,948
Speaker 3: something online, because you go like, oh, well, you know

526
00:24:59,989 --> 00:25:02,149
Speaker 3: you're selling weapons online, and it's like, well, great, where

527
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:04,469
Speaker 3: are you going to assume me? Like, what jurisdiction did

528
00:25:04,509 --> 00:25:06,829
Speaker 3: that land in? It's on the Internet and it's not

529
00:25:06,869 --> 00:25:10,229
Speaker 3: in America. I'm not in Europe, mate, it's online. Sure,

530
00:25:10,349 --> 00:25:13,749
Speaker 3: the whole thing exists on this platform, which is designed

531
00:25:13,789 --> 00:25:16,509
Speaker 3: to be accessed by everyone. Sure, So I think that

532
00:25:16,989 --> 00:25:19,629
Speaker 3: I personally think there's a whole bunch of guilt going

533
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:22,589
Speaker 3: on from people going, oh my god, our teenagers are

534
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Speaker 3: in trouble. And as I said, I haven't got a

535
00:25:24,349 --> 00:25:27,789
Speaker 3: teenager yet, I would be equally scared. But I don't

536
00:25:27,789 --> 00:25:29,909
Speaker 3: think this is going to do anything. In fact, if anything,

537
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:31,789
Speaker 3: I mean, think about it when you're a teenager and

538
00:25:31,829 --> 00:25:33,309
Speaker 3: your mum and dad are like, don't do that.

539
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:36,069
Speaker 2: What did you want to do? I listened to my

540
00:25:36,189 --> 00:25:38,389
Speaker 2: parents coming very much and as a good boy.

541
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Speaker 1: Now, but don't you think that as a like a

542
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:42,669
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the future as well. Obviously, when Remy

543
00:25:42,709 --> 00:25:45,349
Speaker 1: becomes a teenager, don't you think it helps you in

544
00:25:45,389 --> 00:25:47,989
Speaker 1: that discussion though around social media, if you can go

545
00:25:48,469 --> 00:25:53,149
Speaker 1: it's illegal, like' you can't have Instagram because there is

546
00:25:53,189 --> 00:25:55,269
Speaker 1: a law against it, like similar to drinking. Like I

547
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:58,388
Speaker 1: think because there's an age there where drinking becomes legal,

548
00:25:58,949 --> 00:26:00,949
Speaker 1: that's an easier conversation as a parent to go, no,

549
00:26:01,029 --> 00:26:01,549
Speaker 1: you can't drink.

550
00:26:01,589 --> 00:26:03,668
Speaker 2: That's to be from drinking as a fifteen sixteen year old.

551
00:26:05,069 --> 00:26:09,349
Speaker 1: So I think no, no, but but but in.

552
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Speaker 2: Fact, if anything, again, it just turned it into a

553
00:26:11,509 --> 00:26:13,388
Speaker 2: holy grail. It made it harder though. It did make

554
00:26:13,389 --> 00:26:16,148
Speaker 2: it harder, though it created it hurt. I couldn't go

555
00:26:16,189 --> 00:26:18,709
Speaker 2: home d it harder, and it made the reward bigger.

556
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:20,349
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I couldn't come home from school and crack

557
00:26:20,389 --> 00:26:22,388
Speaker 1: open a beer. I had to wait till the weekend,

558
00:26:22,469 --> 00:26:23,989
Speaker 1: pay for someone to go into the bottle shop. You know,

559
00:26:23,989 --> 00:26:26,309
Speaker 1: there was effort and work, right, So I think by

560
00:26:26,349 --> 00:26:28,269
Speaker 1: making work an effort for people to get on to

561
00:26:28,349 --> 00:26:29,789
Speaker 1: social media, surely that's a good thing.

562
00:26:29,829 --> 00:26:32,148
Speaker 3: This will not be working effort. These kids will be

563
00:26:32,269 --> 00:26:35,629
Speaker 3: so good at this. They've all got the phones. Yeah,

564
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:37,269
Speaker 3: I mean, unless we all start doing what you know,

565
00:26:37,629 --> 00:26:39,429
Speaker 3: little Johnny Howard did back with the guns and he

566
00:26:39,429 --> 00:26:41,109
Speaker 3: opens up the dumpsters and you get to rock up

567
00:26:41,109 --> 00:26:42,388
Speaker 3: and throw your gun in the thing. And that's what

568
00:26:42,429 --> 00:26:44,789
Speaker 3: the teenagers do with their phones, and they get rid

569
00:26:44,829 --> 00:26:45,429
Speaker 3: of their phones.

570
00:26:45,509 --> 00:26:46,069
Speaker 2: That'd be great.

571
00:26:46,109 --> 00:26:48,189
Speaker 3: If you have a phone that is connected to the Internet,

572
00:26:48,349 --> 00:26:49,509
Speaker 3: you're not going to keep a kid.

573
00:26:49,349 --> 00:26:51,429
Speaker 2: Off off this stuff. That's my view.

574
00:26:51,989 --> 00:26:53,629
Speaker 3: I'm happy to hear from some other people in thirteen

575
00:26:53,629 --> 00:26:55,909
Speaker 3: one and six five if you think this social media

576
00:26:55,949 --> 00:26:58,389
Speaker 3: ban is destined to fail or everything's actually a great idea.

577
00:26:58,749 --> 00:27:00,229
Speaker 3: We are going to be joined by someone who actually

578
00:27:00,269 --> 00:27:02,509
Speaker 3: knows a lot more about this. So Nigel Fair is

579
00:27:02,509 --> 00:27:05,469
Speaker 3: a professor of Software Systems and cybersecurity at m Nash University.

580
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:08,069
Speaker 3: An all round good guy, apparently he said about himself,

581
00:27:08,069 --> 00:27:11,549
Speaker 3: which I think is very Which side is he on? Well,

582
00:27:11,589 --> 00:27:13,989
Speaker 3: you have to ask Nigel right up now truth.

583
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:14,869
Speaker 2: It's William Woddy.

584
00:27:15,509 --> 00:27:19,309
Speaker 3: Guys, hope you're having a great Monday afternoon social media event.

585
00:27:19,309 --> 00:27:20,589
Speaker 3: Do you reckon it's going to be a winner or

586
00:27:20,589 --> 00:27:23,789
Speaker 3: destined to fail? Nigel Fair, professor joins something next to

587
00:27:23,789 --> 00:27:24,269
Speaker 3: talk about it.

588
00:27:24,269 --> 00:27:25,949
Speaker 2: WHILLIMODDI anyway, look we've got.

589
00:27:25,869 --> 00:27:29,189
Speaker 3: Nigel Fair, who is professor of Software Systems and cybersecurity

590
00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:33,269
Speaker 3: at one Ash University. Nigel, thanks for joining us.

591
00:27:33,309 --> 00:27:34,829
Speaker 2: Do you think this is going to work? Nigel?

592
00:27:35,989 --> 00:27:38,109
Speaker 4: I don't think we should look at us in this

593
00:27:38,229 --> 00:27:41,149
Speaker 4: being the silver bullet to the problems that young people

594
00:27:41,189 --> 00:27:46,069
Speaker 4: have online mental health, screen addiction, privacy, etcetera, etcetera. I

595
00:27:46,069 --> 00:27:48,389
Speaker 4: think we've got to look at it being a long

596
00:27:48,509 --> 00:27:51,669
Speaker 4: burn and this needs to be one suite of many,

597
00:27:51,749 --> 00:27:54,429
Speaker 4: many things that we do to provide the tools and

598
00:27:54,429 --> 00:27:57,069
Speaker 4: techniques for young people that think about what they're going

599
00:27:57,149 --> 00:27:58,789
Speaker 4: to do in the online environment.

600
00:27:59,069 --> 00:28:01,469
Speaker 1: So, Nigel, we was kind of saying before the song though,

601
00:28:01,509 --> 00:28:04,029
Speaker 1: that I mean for these kids that are way more

602
00:28:04,069 --> 00:28:05,869
Speaker 1: tech savy than me, that it's going to be very

603
00:28:05,949 --> 00:28:09,469
Speaker 1: very easy for them to get around this of under

604
00:28:09,509 --> 00:28:13,109
Speaker 1: sixteen year olds with your expertise, do you agree with that?

605
00:28:13,149 --> 00:28:14,549
Speaker 2: Like is where is it going to be easy to

606
00:28:14,589 --> 00:28:15,349
Speaker 2: get around?

607
00:28:15,989 --> 00:28:18,349
Speaker 4: Well, yes, there's certainly going to be ways that they're

608
00:28:18,349 --> 00:28:20,109
Speaker 4: going to get around. They'll be talking about it now

609
00:28:20,229 --> 00:28:21,869
Speaker 4: how they can get around it with you, whether it

610
00:28:21,949 --> 00:28:25,109
Speaker 4: with a VPN or whether it's gaming the system. But

611
00:28:25,229 --> 00:28:28,509
Speaker 4: you know, this is where the legislation is going to

612
00:28:28,509 --> 00:28:31,029
Speaker 4: be relying on the social media company is actually not

613
00:28:31,109 --> 00:28:33,949
Speaker 4: going to be an offense if you're under sixteen to

614
00:28:34,029 --> 00:28:37,549
Speaker 4: create an account. It's relying on the social media companies

615
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:43,429
Speaker 4: to detect your user activity and potentially block you or otherwise.

616
00:28:43,869 --> 00:28:48,949
Speaker 1: Right right, Oh, sorry, so they the social media companies

617
00:28:48,989 --> 00:28:50,229
Speaker 1: can choose to block you.

618
00:28:51,309 --> 00:28:55,349
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's you know, there's a great thing in life.

619
00:28:55,349 --> 00:28:57,269
Speaker 4: There's two things you don't want to ever watch being made.

620
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:59,189
Speaker 4: When he is sausages and the other one is laws.

621
00:28:59,589 --> 00:29:02,949
Speaker 1: I love watchinges being made. What are you talking about

622
00:29:02,989 --> 00:29:04,069
Speaker 1: watching a sausage sysem?

623
00:29:05,109 --> 00:29:08,829
Speaker 2: I mean stuffed? Oh yeah, disgusting. Sorry, so god.

624
00:29:10,909 --> 00:29:13,389
Speaker 4: Talking. It's a different matter what thing are being made. Yeah,

625
00:29:13,429 --> 00:29:17,109
Speaker 4: maybe not so much. But the legislation talks about the

626
00:29:17,149 --> 00:29:21,829
Speaker 4: social media coming to having to take reasonable steps, and

627
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:24,629
Speaker 4: you can choose whatever definition you want to put around

628
00:29:24,669 --> 00:29:28,069
Speaker 4: the phrase reasonable steps. But that's what they've got to do.

629
00:29:28,189 --> 00:29:33,069
Speaker 4: So it's quite like touch what it is. But you know,

630
00:29:33,709 --> 00:29:35,749
Speaker 4: I think the real discussion will we have in twelve,

631
00:29:35,789 --> 00:29:39,349
Speaker 4: twenty four, thirty six months to see what difference it's made.

632
00:29:39,229 --> 00:29:40,949
Speaker 2: Happen we're being kicked up. I was going to say

633
00:29:40,989 --> 00:29:41,549
Speaker 2: that I's been.

634
00:29:41,469 --> 00:29:43,109
Speaker 4: Able to create accounts, etcetera.

635
00:29:43,229 --> 00:29:44,549
Speaker 3: I've just heard you and I do you think that?

636
00:29:45,069 --> 00:29:48,069
Speaker 3: So let's say that you know, let's say this is successful.

637
00:29:48,189 --> 00:29:50,429
Speaker 3: Let's say that you know, I don't know. Eighty percent

638
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:55,949
Speaker 3: of sixteen year olds now sixteen unders stay off social media.

639
00:29:56,829 --> 00:30:00,149
Speaker 3: Do you like, how different is that seventeen year old

640
00:30:00,189 --> 00:30:02,549
Speaker 3: going to be versus the seventeen year old that is

641
00:30:02,589 --> 00:30:04,189
Speaker 3: on social media?

642
00:30:04,709 --> 00:30:08,269
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's society we've made an assessment of

643
00:30:08,429 --> 00:30:10,189
Speaker 4: as you you get older and you get more mature,

644
00:30:10,229 --> 00:30:12,829
Speaker 4: you can start making better choices about the things that

645
00:30:12,909 --> 00:30:16,389
Speaker 4: you see, whether it's online or offline. And that's really

646
00:30:16,469 --> 00:30:19,749
Speaker 4: why the sign we can vote when we're adeen, we

647
00:30:19,829 --> 00:30:22,949
Speaker 4: can drink when we're adeen, you know. So it's on

648
00:30:23,109 --> 00:30:25,189
Speaker 4: that step of the many people would argue and they

649
00:30:25,229 --> 00:30:26,989
Speaker 4: bring it into the UK that you can vote from

650
00:30:27,109 --> 00:30:29,509
Speaker 4: being sixteen. There's a lot of attuned people to the

651
00:30:29,629 --> 00:30:32,509
Speaker 4: public policy. So that's where it is, and that's where

652
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:35,829
Speaker 4: part of the reason this bangs bringing brought into is

653
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Speaker 4: because young people are seeing things in the online environment

654
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Speaker 4: they really shouldn't be said, right, they're getting groomed, they're

655
00:30:42,829 --> 00:30:46,709
Speaker 4: getting they're seeing images that aren't appropriate. They're suffering from

656
00:30:46,709 --> 00:30:51,029
Speaker 4: mental health issues because of the the fomo, all sorts

657
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:52,989
Speaker 4: of different things. You know, a lot of these social

658
00:30:53,069 --> 00:30:56,509
Speaker 4: media platforms are very addictive, you know, and it's the

659
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Speaker 4: concept of I'm always going to be a vailable because

660
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Speaker 4: my friends are always going to be a vailable aligned

661
00:31:00,789 --> 00:31:04,909
Speaker 4: this social compact that they have, with the argument being

662
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Speaker 4: they're not prepared mentally to cope with that. Under sixteen.

663
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:11,389
Speaker 2: Hi, Nigel, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Professor of Software Systems and Cybersecurity, Monised University.

665
00:31:13,989 --> 00:31:16,069
Speaker 2: Nigel fair there and all around good guy. Been loving

666
00:31:16,069 --> 00:31:16,349
Speaker 2: to meet you.

667
00:31:16,469 --> 00:31:19,629
Speaker 3: Nige, Thanks God cheers. Hey, I got to Julia here,

668
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:21,869
Speaker 3: who's called in Julia? You don't think the social media

669
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Speaker 3: band's going to work?

670
00:31:23,949 --> 00:31:26,229
Speaker 11: No, I don't think it will work all the u jeels.

671
00:31:26,909 --> 00:31:32,189
Speaker 11: I'm nineteen. I'm born in two thousand and six. However,

672
00:31:32,309 --> 00:31:35,509
Speaker 11: I wasn't on social media till I turned thirteen. Starting

673
00:31:35,589 --> 00:31:38,589
Speaker 11: year seven, I got an iPhone. That was when I

674
00:31:38,629 --> 00:31:43,549
Speaker 11: was first really introduced to the social media world. But

675
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Speaker 11: I don't think you know, these young kids that I

676
00:31:45,989 --> 00:31:48,069
Speaker 11: look after, IM and Nanny, I look after young kids

677
00:31:49,349 --> 00:31:53,349
Speaker 11: snag Jen Alpha, they are all electronics. Where there's a will,

678
00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:55,749
Speaker 11: where there's a way, I think they will find a way,

679
00:31:55,829 --> 00:31:59,949
Speaker 11: whether it's putting their account under their mum or dad's name,

680
00:32:00,629 --> 00:32:03,989
Speaker 11: or you know, getting a VPN or a different device,

681
00:32:04,029 --> 00:32:05,869
Speaker 11: they will find a way and they will get on

682
00:32:05,869 --> 00:32:06,909
Speaker 11: that social media.

683
00:32:06,709 --> 00:32:08,349
Speaker 2: If you have. You found with the kids you look after,

684
00:32:08,429 --> 00:32:10,669
Speaker 2: are they pretty addicted to it? Always the heads up?

685
00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:13,789
Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, as soon as we get home. I picked

686
00:32:13,789 --> 00:32:15,509
Speaker 11: them up from school. As soon as we get home,

687
00:32:15,549 --> 00:32:19,309
Speaker 11: it's straight onto something. It's straight onto, whether it's the iPad,

688
00:32:19,349 --> 00:32:22,749
Speaker 11: whether it's the Xbox, whether it's whatever device is in

689
00:32:22,989 --> 00:32:25,309
Speaker 11: hands reach. As soon as they walk into that front door.

690
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:29,109
Speaker 11: There's no more in the morning as well, they're on

691
00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:32,549
Speaker 11: their iPads. There's no more watching cartoons in the morning,

692
00:32:32,709 --> 00:32:34,429
Speaker 11: or you know, just sitting on the couch.

693
00:32:34,829 --> 00:32:36,869
Speaker 2: It sounds like a pretty sweet gig for you, though, Julia.

694
00:32:36,949 --> 00:32:40,989
Speaker 2: Fifty bucks an hour it is going on social media yourself,

695
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:42,629
Speaker 2: Julia vervit. Yeah, I know.

696
00:32:42,709 --> 00:32:43,629
Speaker 11: I just have to watch them.

697
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:45,469
Speaker 4: That's my job, Julia.

698
00:32:48,949 --> 00:32:51,509
Speaker 2: What's in the drop sign? Just reminder everyone he could

699
00:32:51,589 --> 00:32:57,229
Speaker 2: leave the studio at any stage. Yes, I go drop

700
00:32:58,589 --> 00:33:03,029
Speaker 2: nailed it? Not going again? That fair enough? So yes.

701
00:33:03,629 --> 00:33:06,429
Speaker 1: Mims thirty eight weeks pregnant, so full term.

702
00:33:06,429 --> 00:33:07,629
Speaker 2: Still a couple of weeks away.

703
00:33:07,709 --> 00:33:10,189
Speaker 1: But look, at the end of the day, at any moment,

704
00:33:10,309 --> 00:33:12,629
Speaker 1: my phone could go off and I'll be going straight

705
00:33:12,989 --> 00:33:17,389
Speaker 1: to hospital to bring into the world our second child,

706
00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:18,549
Speaker 1: which is very, very exciting.

707
00:33:19,069 --> 00:33:21,629
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Got the name sorted, So yes,

708
00:33:21,709 --> 00:33:24,029
Speaker 2: we do have a name sorted flying around with the

709
00:33:24,109 --> 00:33:28,909
Speaker 2: name flying around using it. Well, yeah, yes, I like to.

710
00:33:29,389 --> 00:33:32,229
Speaker 1: I like to communicate with the baby in utro with

711
00:33:32,309 --> 00:33:34,349
Speaker 1: the name, which is what we did with Remy as well.

712
00:33:34,749 --> 00:33:37,349
Speaker 1: So we've got a name that cuts both ways. So

713
00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:41,069
Speaker 1: girl or boy, that's the name we.

714
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:43,629
Speaker 2: Had this chance if they come out and they're just like,

715
00:33:43,749 --> 00:33:44,069
Speaker 2: not that.

716
00:33:44,629 --> 00:33:46,589
Speaker 1: Yes, So me and I have had that chat, and

717
00:33:46,629 --> 00:33:50,269
Speaker 1: we've got some other names that are around, which is

718
00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:52,869
Speaker 1: they will only have them. We'll only dip into the

719
00:33:52,949 --> 00:33:55,029
Speaker 1: backup names if we both look at it and go

720
00:33:55,069 --> 00:33:57,549
Speaker 1: oh wow, it's not a yeah yeah yeah that So

721
00:33:57,629 --> 00:33:58,229
Speaker 1: that may happen.

722
00:33:58,349 --> 00:33:59,509
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. Anyway.

723
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Speaker 1: The thing about the drop sigone, which I kind of

724
00:34:01,429 --> 00:34:04,149
Speaker 1: forgot from our first child, is that I'm sure you

725
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:07,349
Speaker 1: can relate to this. Will is you're in this period

726
00:34:07,389 --> 00:34:10,029
Speaker 1: of time where, because the baby could come at any moment,

727
00:34:10,268 --> 00:34:13,268
Speaker 1: you've gotta be very careful about what you do and

728
00:34:13,308 --> 00:34:13,988
Speaker 1: where you go.

729
00:34:14,828 --> 00:34:16,589
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you put a perimeter on yourself. I know

730
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:17,028
Speaker 2: that much.

731
00:34:17,189 --> 00:34:20,229
Speaker 1: Yes, perimeter is there's no interstate flights anymore. There's really

732
00:34:20,748 --> 00:34:22,908
Speaker 1: I don't want to be any more than i'd say

733
00:34:22,948 --> 00:34:25,828
Speaker 1: an hour away from home for the moment.

734
00:34:25,629 --> 00:34:28,788
Speaker 2: That's knocked off your cycling drips. Yes, the cycling has

735
00:34:28,828 --> 00:34:29,388
Speaker 2: taken a hit.

736
00:34:30,388 --> 00:34:33,589
Speaker 1: A small sacrifice though, will that is a small sacrifice.

737
00:34:34,388 --> 00:34:37,629
Speaker 1: There was a tough conversation because, yeah, I went for

738
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:40,188
Speaker 1: a big bike ride when just before Remy was born,

739
00:34:40,788 --> 00:34:42,428
Speaker 1: and that would have been really bad if trend to

740
00:34:42,469 --> 00:34:45,428
Speaker 1: labor anyway. So, yeah, cycling's off the cards, but you've

741
00:34:45,428 --> 00:34:47,308
Speaker 1: also got to be very careful about what you put on.

742
00:34:48,029 --> 00:34:52,028
Speaker 1: So it was my first daughter's birthday on Saturday, and

743
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:53,988
Speaker 1: it's become a bit of a ritual for us that

744
00:34:54,549 --> 00:34:57,508
Speaker 1: we will both dress up for our daughter. I would

745
00:34:57,549 --> 00:34:59,549
Speaker 1: just dress up in the thing that she's really into.

746
00:34:59,908 --> 00:35:03,828
Speaker 1: So I dressed up as the Cheshire cat. Yeah, from

747
00:35:03,868 --> 00:35:10,149
Speaker 1: Alice in Wonderland, the classic Alice in Wonderland.

748
00:35:10,189 --> 00:35:15,308
Speaker 2: Missing there creepy cat. So he's not creepy, he's so creepy. No,

749
00:35:15,428 --> 00:35:16,669
Speaker 2: you can't trust him.

750
00:35:16,709 --> 00:35:19,268
Speaker 1: It's strange that Remy loves the Cheshire cat so much

751
00:35:19,308 --> 00:35:21,229
Speaker 1: when if you look at the Cheshire cat, you're like,

752
00:35:21,308 --> 00:35:22,468
Speaker 1: you just cannot trust that cat.

753
00:35:22,469 --> 00:35:23,268
Speaker 2: I think it's Chesshire.

754
00:35:23,348 --> 00:35:26,709
Speaker 1: By the way, it is, Well, we're rolling with Chesi

755
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:32,629
Speaker 1: ches So I was in full Cheshire get up, right fully,

756
00:35:32,709 --> 00:35:36,268
Speaker 1: fully done. And then mim painted her pregnant belly green

757
00:35:37,109 --> 00:35:43,229
Speaker 1: and created Mike Wizowski. So she had that painted on

758
00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:47,148
Speaker 1: her belly. So just picture that. So I'm full Cheshire cat.

759
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:51,229
Speaker 1: She's painted belly Mike Wazowski. She goes down in pain

760
00:35:51,428 --> 00:35:54,468
Speaker 1: on the couch nine am Saturday morning, and I was like,

761
00:35:54,669 --> 00:35:55,268
Speaker 1: oh my god.

762
00:35:55,268 --> 00:35:55,748
Speaker 2: And then in.

763
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Speaker 1: Character I had to ask her and it was like

764
00:36:01,149 --> 00:36:02,388
Speaker 1: for a moment there, I was like, I'm about to

765
00:36:02,388 --> 00:36:04,068
Speaker 1: get the bags and we're going to go, and I'm

766
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:05,988
Speaker 1: going to go through the birth dressed as Cheshire cat,

767
00:36:06,029 --> 00:36:08,788
Speaker 1: and you're going to deliver a baby with Mike Wazowski.

768
00:36:08,428 --> 00:36:09,869
Speaker 2: Paint it on your belly. Wow.

769
00:36:10,229 --> 00:36:15,508
Speaker 1: Turns out Braxton Hicks fake labor pains. We didn't have

770
00:36:15,549 --> 00:36:18,388
Speaker 1: to go to hospital, but I'm just interested. Thirteen one

771
00:36:18,428 --> 00:36:21,428
Speaker 1: oh sixty five is the number. Yeah, where was your

772
00:36:21,509 --> 00:36:26,268
Speaker 1: partner when you went into labor. Yeah, okay, where were

773
00:36:26,308 --> 00:36:29,588
Speaker 1: they or what were they in the middle of when

774
00:36:29,629 --> 00:36:31,189
Speaker 1: you had to try and get in touch with them

775
00:36:31,229 --> 00:36:33,349
Speaker 1: and be like, can you pull yourself out of whatever

776
00:36:33,388 --> 00:36:33,828
Speaker 1: you're doing?

777
00:36:33,948 --> 00:36:35,748
Speaker 2: Yep, because we've got a baby on the way. We'll

778
00:36:35,788 --> 00:36:37,508
Speaker 2: take you cause on next thirty one and six five.

779
00:36:39,189 --> 00:36:41,868
Speaker 2: Sure have all been. There's lots of horrible scenarios that

780
00:36:41,948 --> 00:36:42,788
Speaker 2: you might have been in.

781
00:36:42,989 --> 00:36:45,948
Speaker 1: Made of Mine was a number of sheets to the

782
00:36:45,989 --> 00:36:48,268
Speaker 1: wind like he was. He was on his way at

783
00:36:48,268 --> 00:36:49,428
Speaker 1: the pub. He got the phone call.

784
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:52,308
Speaker 2: That's silly, that's just a silly boy. All behavior is

785
00:36:52,348 --> 00:36:56,628
Speaker 2: a silly boy. His wife was not happy at all. Happy.

786
00:36:56,669 --> 00:36:59,428
Speaker 2: We'll take you cause next with the money Woods could

787
00:36:59,509 --> 00:37:01,388
Speaker 2: leave the studio at any second, guys, he's in the

788
00:37:01,469 --> 00:37:03,508
Speaker 2: job zone.

789
00:37:05,629 --> 00:37:10,869
Speaker 1: Drop. That's it thirty eight weeks pregnant, which just means

790
00:37:10,868 --> 00:37:13,068
Speaker 1: at any moment the phone call could come and then

791
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:16,108
Speaker 1: the show that you guys have always wanted a will show.

792
00:37:16,788 --> 00:37:20,069
Speaker 2: It will take over. Who knows what the Big Fellow

793
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:23,988
Speaker 2: Bill will cover without the ball and chain. Oh, it's

794
00:37:24,029 --> 00:37:27,348
Speaker 2: going to be the best of program eighty five to

795
00:37:27,428 --> 00:37:29,428
Speaker 2: ninety five. What a sell.

796
00:37:30,509 --> 00:37:32,868
Speaker 1: So because I am in the drop zone and the

797
00:37:32,868 --> 00:37:34,868
Speaker 1: baby can come any moment. We did have a moment

798
00:37:34,868 --> 00:37:37,468
Speaker 1: on Saturday morning where I was dressed as the Cheschier cat.

799
00:37:37,788 --> 00:37:40,268
Speaker 1: Mim had a painting of Mike Wazowski and her tummy.

800
00:37:40,549 --> 00:37:43,548
Speaker 1: We're celebrating our first daughter's birthday, and we genuinely thought

801
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:45,748
Speaker 1: she was going into labor, which would have meant Mike

802
00:37:45,748 --> 00:37:48,669
Speaker 1: Wazowski and the Cheschier Cat, We're going to the hospital.

803
00:37:49,549 --> 00:37:52,788
Speaker 2: So I'm just interested on thirteen one oh six five as.

804
00:37:52,589 --> 00:37:55,589
Speaker 1: To where was your partner when you went into labor

805
00:37:55,709 --> 00:37:58,348
Speaker 1: or what were they in the middle of before I

806
00:37:58,348 --> 00:38:01,989
Speaker 1: got to Rachel quick one for you fortieth birthday this Saturday,

807
00:38:03,268 --> 00:38:06,509
Speaker 1: hour and a half drive away. A.

808
00:38:08,149 --> 00:38:12,589
Speaker 3: Well, it looks at my our I thought that'd be

809
00:38:12,589 --> 00:38:13,268
Speaker 3: a straight up no.

810
00:38:13,788 --> 00:38:16,629
Speaker 2: Well, our virtual labor, I feel has been very was

811
00:38:16,709 --> 00:38:19,348
Speaker 2: pretty Sam was pretty relaxed about it because she was like,

812
00:38:19,509 --> 00:38:20,948
Speaker 2: by the time I had my first contraction, by the

813
00:38:20,948 --> 00:38:22,468
Speaker 2: time you get here's nothing you can really do.

814
00:38:22,669 --> 00:38:25,348
Speaker 3: True in that first hour and a half two hours anyway,

815
00:38:26,109 --> 00:38:26,428
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

816
00:38:26,428 --> 00:38:28,748
Speaker 2: So it wasn't as I think flying is probably a

817
00:38:28,788 --> 00:38:30,949
Speaker 2: good limit. Yeah, sure, yeah, no flying.

818
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:33,189
Speaker 3: You know, when they had their first contractions, A long

819
00:38:33,268 --> 00:38:35,428
Speaker 3: time before Anya, you get down to the business end.

820
00:38:35,469 --> 00:38:38,229
Speaker 1: I'm on Tens. I think that's on the Tens machine.

821
00:38:38,229 --> 00:38:40,468
Speaker 1: I'm on Ten's machine. I got a few little dot

822
00:38:40,589 --> 00:38:42,549
Speaker 1: I've got a few dot points. I was on the

823
00:38:42,549 --> 00:38:44,468
Speaker 1: Tens machine. Then I had it ripped out of my hand.

824
00:38:44,549 --> 00:38:47,669
Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens quickly, doesn't it. It's delegated. And then

825
00:38:47,669 --> 00:38:49,709
Speaker 2: when they're in there, they're like, give me that. It's

826
00:38:49,709 --> 00:38:51,548
Speaker 2: going to Rachel on thirty one or six five.

827
00:38:51,629 --> 00:38:55,308
Speaker 1: Rachel, where was your partner when you went into labor?

828
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Speaker 12: Well, my partner was at come with me. However, it

829
00:39:00,469 --> 00:39:04,149
Speaker 12: was my brother's twenty first birthday, and she said to me,

830
00:39:04,308 --> 00:39:07,068
Speaker 12: don't you dare go in labor because everyone was going

831
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:07,908
Speaker 12: to be intoxicated.

832
00:39:07,948 --> 00:39:08,428
Speaker 9: Obviously.

833
00:39:08,948 --> 00:39:12,828
Speaker 12: Sure yeah, and sure enough. I went into labor at

834
00:39:12,828 --> 00:39:21,549
Speaker 12: midnight that night and everybody was half tanked. Being my first, thankfully,

835
00:39:21,669 --> 00:39:24,589
Speaker 12: it took time. So I called my mom and she

836
00:39:24,669 --> 00:39:26,469
Speaker 12: had to come down. She was the way for the weekend,

837
00:39:27,229 --> 00:39:29,268
Speaker 12: so she has come all the way back to take

838
00:39:29,308 --> 00:39:31,948
Speaker 12: me because my brother was still over the limit by

839
00:39:31,989 --> 00:39:32,588
Speaker 12: the next day.

840
00:39:32,709 --> 00:39:34,788
Speaker 1: True thought, because that's the other thing to go think about,

841
00:39:34,948 --> 00:39:38,629
Speaker 1: is like, like, I'll be driving, so you do have

842
00:39:38,669 --> 00:39:40,189
Speaker 1: to think about that a little bit like you need

843
00:39:40,268 --> 00:39:40,709
Speaker 1: to be of.

844
00:39:40,788 --> 00:39:48,789
Speaker 3: A Yeah, getting nebriated on anything is a really bad idea.

845
00:39:48,908 --> 00:39:52,308
Speaker 2: Ellen's called unless you want like a perfect hell by

846
00:39:52,348 --> 00:39:54,549
Speaker 2: the way, yeah, God, but I'm pretty sure that is.

847
00:39:56,549 --> 00:39:58,748
Speaker 3: Take you to a place where you're in need, but

848
00:39:58,788 --> 00:40:00,709
Speaker 3: you can't help because you're intoxicated.

849
00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:02,548
Speaker 2: Could loosen you up. I won't go and I won't

850
00:40:02,549 --> 00:40:02,948
Speaker 2: go to that.

851
00:40:02,989 --> 00:40:04,948
Speaker 1: I will not go let you in if it was

852
00:40:04,989 --> 00:40:08,709
Speaker 1: bad enough. Yeah, and Ellen, what was your partner doing

853
00:40:08,828 --> 00:40:09,669
Speaker 1: when you went into labor.

854
00:40:10,388 --> 00:40:13,789
Speaker 9: My partner was in church playing in the church choir

855
00:40:13,868 --> 00:40:16,508
Speaker 9: when I messaged him to say, can you please come

856
00:40:16,549 --> 00:40:20,628
Speaker 9: home because I'm in labor, And he did suggest that

857
00:40:20,868 --> 00:40:23,468
Speaker 9: he wait till church was over before and came home.

858
00:40:25,549 --> 00:40:28,788
Speaker 9: Fortunately he did take the hint and was home by

859
00:40:29,348 --> 00:40:32,669
Speaker 9: seven pm and she was born at seven thirty pm

860
00:40:35,669 --> 00:40:37,189
Speaker 9: at the hospital, just in time.

861
00:40:37,348 --> 00:40:37,828
Speaker 2: Wow.

862
00:40:38,189 --> 00:40:40,308
Speaker 3: When you said he took the Intell and was that

863
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:43,109
Speaker 3: he read a very stern message from you.

864
00:40:43,908 --> 00:40:46,229
Speaker 9: Well, I think a few people were calling him to

865
00:40:46,268 --> 00:40:47,788
Speaker 9: say you need to get home.

866
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:53,868
Speaker 2: To drop it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably why you

867
00:40:53,908 --> 00:40:56,388
Speaker 2: married him, Helen. You probably married him he takes his.

868
00:40:56,629 --> 00:40:58,388
Speaker 9: Well, it was one of the reasons.

869
00:40:59,029 --> 00:41:00,109
Speaker 2: Do you no longer together?

870
00:41:00,868 --> 00:41:02,388
Speaker 9: No, we're still together. Yeah.

871
00:41:02,509 --> 00:41:03,908
Speaker 2: Did he play a bit of music in the.

872
00:41:05,549 --> 00:41:05,868
Speaker 9: He did?

873
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:07,108
Speaker 4: Oh no, not at all.

874
00:41:07,189 --> 00:41:09,588
Speaker 9: There was no time, no time from half now.

875
00:41:09,629 --> 00:41:11,988
Speaker 2: I can't bring the organ, can't bring the organ, the

876
00:41:12,109 --> 00:41:12,589
Speaker 2: organs at all.

877
00:41:12,629 --> 00:41:15,988
Speaker 3: There pretty much imovable organs once they're in there in

878
00:41:16,388 --> 00:41:16,948
Speaker 3: is that right?

879
00:41:17,069 --> 00:41:19,709
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're organs. They're huge. Yeah, it's very hard

880
00:41:19,748 --> 00:41:20,348
Speaker 2: to transport.

881
00:41:20,388 --> 00:41:23,748
Speaker 1: That's a fair point. Ale's got to Jermaine here. I

882
00:41:23,828 --> 00:41:26,149
Speaker 1: have to bring her to the church. That's what you

883
00:41:26,229 --> 00:41:26,508
Speaker 1: have to do.

884
00:41:27,948 --> 00:41:28,508
Speaker 2: Jermaine.

885
00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:33,109
Speaker 1: You were somewhere whilst your partner went into labor.

886
00:41:33,149 --> 00:41:34,868
Speaker 2: Bit of a confession here, Jermaine.

887
00:41:35,428 --> 00:41:35,668
Speaker 12: Yeah.

888
00:41:35,788 --> 00:41:38,669
Speaker 10: So my wife insisted that I don't go to soccer

889
00:41:38,709 --> 00:41:41,828
Speaker 10: that evening, and I decided I should go to sock.

890
00:41:43,348 --> 00:41:46,629
Speaker 10: I went to soccer after I finished my game and

891
00:41:46,748 --> 00:41:51,468
Speaker 10: our game I had about thousand misscores, and I caught

892
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:54,748
Speaker 10: her back. Didn't have called her brother, mother in law

893
00:41:54,828 --> 00:41:55,789
Speaker 10: and she had a baby.

894
00:41:56,308 --> 00:42:00,948
Speaker 2: Oh you missed the whole thing, Jermaine.

895
00:42:01,268 --> 00:42:02,108
Speaker 10: I missed the whole thing.

896
00:42:02,268 --> 00:42:05,189
Speaker 3: Oh god, what what what did she say when you

897
00:42:05,229 --> 00:42:05,748
Speaker 3: first saw her?

898
00:42:05,828 --> 00:42:06,348
Speaker 2: Jermaine?

899
00:42:07,868 --> 00:42:09,068
Speaker 10: Two years later, I still here?

900
00:42:09,989 --> 00:42:14,308
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean the other side, Jermain, did you

901
00:42:14,348 --> 00:42:15,468
Speaker 1: have a win in.

902
00:42:15,469 --> 00:42:19,468
Speaker 10: The game, Yeah, like it. At least I got something

903
00:42:19,469 --> 00:42:20,028
Speaker 10: out of that night.

904
00:42:21,149 --> 00:42:23,229
Speaker 2: You don't assert it to your one, probably don't