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Speaker 1: Today marks one hundred days since the Finochiro led COLP

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Speaker 1: government was elected. It's been a busy one hundred days.

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Speaker 1: No matter what side of the political fence you sit on,

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Speaker 1: you cannot deny that they've hit the ground running. The

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, Leo Finocchio said prior to the election in August,

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Speaker 1: she'd promised territorians change for the better, and she says

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Speaker 1: we're delivering on that promise. She joins me in the

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Speaker 1: studio right now, Good morning to your Chief.

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Speaker 2: Miness, signing Katie and to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you look at the first one hundred days

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Speaker 1: in office, what were your top priorities and what's it

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Speaker 1: been like for you?

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Speaker 3: It's been an incredible privilege and I'm just so proud

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Speaker 3: of what we've been able to achieve for our fellow territory.

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Speaker 3: And you know, things were in a really, really dark position.

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Speaker 3: People didn't have hope, and we've just hit the ground running,

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Speaker 3: particularly obviously around reducing crime. So things are still absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not sugarcoating or pretending that crime has gone away,

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Speaker 3: but we have put an additional sixty police out on

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Speaker 3: the street in uniform.

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Speaker 2: We urgently passed through the Parliament.

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Speaker 3: Our Reducing Crime Package giving police better powers around public

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Speaker 3: drinking problem, drunks, ram raid post and boast, assaults on

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Speaker 3: workers and so bail will start come one January.

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Speaker 2: So it's been a big push.

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Speaker 3: There's so much more to do, Katie, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 3: but it's nice to look back on one hundred days

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Speaker 3: of action and say to territories that we did deliver

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Speaker 3: on what we promise. There's just such a huge range

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Speaker 3: of commitments we've gotten out the door, and we're really

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Speaker 3: proud and we look forward to the hard work ahead.

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Speaker 1: How would you rate your efforts since being elected.

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Speaker 3: I can't do that, Katie. All I can say is

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Speaker 3: we've given one hundred and ten percent. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: just been tireless every day, morning and night. Am Ninja

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Speaker 3: kock will be will start one January. You know, the

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Speaker 3: school attendance officers are out the door. Payroll tax starts

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Speaker 3: one January. Our home build scheme has happened, the MVR

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Speaker 3: price is being freezed, our solar rebate, there's been so

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Speaker 3: much this free swimming lessons for our kids starting one January. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean I could rabble on and on and on,

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Speaker 3: but it's it's been a big push.

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Speaker 2: And I think we get ten out of ten for effort.

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Speaker 1: I mean one hundred days. It is quite a long

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Speaker 1: period of time. It seems like it's gone really quite fast.

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Speaker 1: From my perspective, it's probably a bit different to you.

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Speaker 1: You probably feel like it's been an incredibly busy time.

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Speaker 1: But I guess you've had the will of the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territory with you, a lot of territorians voting for you.

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Speaker 1: But how do you sort of maintain that momentum because

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Speaker 1: we are still experiencing issues with crime, We are still

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Speaker 1: experiencing some of those same issues, and we're not really

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Speaker 1: seeing a big change year. Yes, in terms of the

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Speaker 1: legislative reform that you have pushed through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Katie.

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Speaker 3: And so in that first sittings of Parliament what four

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Speaker 3: weeks ago, we passed a bunch of reform and that

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Speaker 3: is having an impact. So our police have I think

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Speaker 3: charged about seventeen people with ram raids. Post and boast

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Speaker 3: has been used, Newson's public drinking has been used. So

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Speaker 3: it's absolutely out there working, but it's not the silver bullet.

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Speaker 3: There's so much work to do, and so this next

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Speaker 3: year ahead will be a time of great reform. We've

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Speaker 3: got to get our court systems working better. Obviously, our

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Speaker 3: corrections muster have adult prisoners moving back into the behremouth

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Speaker 3: facility literally in a matter of days, so there's plenty

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Speaker 3: more to do. And like I said, we can't sugarcoat this,

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Speaker 3: but I can't magic up more police and the crime

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Speaker 1: So next one hundred days you're really going to be

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Speaker 1: trying to focus on making sure that we do have

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Speaker 1: the court systems working a little bit more quickly, make

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Speaker 1: sure the prisons are able to deal with the capacity

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Speaker 1: or the influx of prisoners at.

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Speaker 2: This without questions.

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Speaker 3: So by the end of this year, our prison systems

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Speaker 3: will already be working better, and that work just continues

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Speaker 3: to get better into next year as we bring online

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Speaker 3: more capacity. Our courts are a big piece of work. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: we've had NAJA in disarray, and we've managed to get

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Speaker 3: on top of legal aid with about a five million

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Speaker 2: There were just so many areas of failure. But we're

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Speaker 3: We've shown through our actions that we're willing to get

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Speaker 1: Not everyone is happy with some of the swift and

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Speaker 1: decisive action that the government is taking. A group of

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Speaker 1: community health research and Aboriginal community controlled organizations have renewed

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Speaker 1: their calls for the Northern Territory government to walk back

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Speaker 1: on the plan to scrap the alcohol flow price. We

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Speaker 1: spoke about this last week with doctor John Boffer, and

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Speaker 1: as we know, on Thursday, the government introduced that legislation

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Speaker 1: to repeal the minimum unit price. Critics are arguing that

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Speaker 1: allowing alcohol that's cheaper than water to return to shelves

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Speaker 1: would lead to a spike in alcohol fueled violence and harm,

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Speaker 1: as problem drinkers could access more standard drinks for the

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Speaker 1: same amount of money. What do you make of those criticisms?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think alcohol anti alcohol groups are always going

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Speaker 3: to wish there were zero alcohol. The reality is the

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Speaker 3: minimum floor price does not work. Otherwise we would not

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Speaker 3: have seen a thirty eight percent increase in alcohol related

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Speaker 3: assaults under labor. So the data shows very very clearly

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Speaker 3: from the review hard spirits. So they're no longer drinking

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Speaker 3: cask wine, they're drinking bottles of rum instead. And we're

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Speaker 3: all seeing the smash bottles on our foot paths in

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Speaker 3: was the other way around. Again, So this is we're

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Speaker 3: talking about chronically affected alcoholics. A floor price doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: anything to them. They will pay six hundred dollars regularly

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Speaker 3: for a bottle of drink. It's just that if the

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Speaker 3: floor price is a nonsense and it's got to go.

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Speaker 1: Doctor John Boffer believes this when that floor price is removed,

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Speaker 1: that we could see a situation like we did in

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Speaker 1: we could see another blow up of some of that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, they're totally uncomparable and again anti alcohol lobby

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Speaker 3: groups will say wild and hysterical things to try and

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Speaker 3: in and of itself. This is not that, and so

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Speaker 3: what we know, just to give people some context, A

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Speaker 3: minimum floor prize only operates in Scotland and that's where

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Speaker 3: this idea came from for the Northern territory. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: now are actually reviewing the process. So this is this

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Speaker 3: good about themselves. I'm not here to make lobby groups

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Speaker 3: feel good. I'm here to deliver results for the community.

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Speaker 3: This doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: Some of those people, though, are people that work on

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Speaker 2: Health Sure and they're desperate, Katie.

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Speaker 3: They're deaper for change, but keeping things that don't work,

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Speaker 3: that's not my job. Status quo is not the option

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Speaker 3: for a CLP government. We've got to drive change for

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Speaker 3: the territory. We promise this at two elections. This is

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Speaker 3: a twenty twenty and twenty twenty four commitment and we

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Speaker 3: will not be walking back on our elections commitments.

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Speaker 2: To the community what happens.

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Speaker 1: So if things do blow up.

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Speaker 3: Well there's other things that have to happen. Now, don't forget.

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Speaker 3: We've got our nuisance public drinking laws. They did not

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Speaker 3: exist under labor. So as our police get greater ability

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Speaker 3: to respond, as we start to drive down crime, those

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Speaker 3: nuisance public drinking laws will really come into their own

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Speaker 3: and they're already having a big impact. Is also about

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Speaker 3: next year when we start rolling out what our mandatory

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Speaker 3: alcohol treatment's going to look like and we start dealing

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Speaker 3: with the demand for alcohol supply will supply restrictions.

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Speaker 2: Will only get you so far.

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Speaker 3: They're very important, and we saw that with stronger futures,

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Speaker 3: but they're not all born equal, Katie, and minimum flaw

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Speaker 3: price cannot be touted as something akin to Will we.

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Speaker 1: Start to see some of the mandatory rehabilitation, some of

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Speaker 1: those increased numbers for people who do need rehab.

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Speaker 2: When don't we to.

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Speaker 1: Start to see some of those changes.

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Speaker 3: So next year will be when the consultation and all

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Speaker 3: of that starts early next year, because we're really mindful,

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Speaker 3: this is not a two point zero of last time round,

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Speaker 3: and it's been a big more than a decade in between.

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Speaker 3: So what we need to do is make sure we're

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Speaker 3: out there talking to the service providers, talking to alcoholics themselves,

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Speaker 3: depend on how quickly we can finalize it. I don't

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Speaker 3: what this could look like, which I think is an

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Speaker 3: exciting space for all the NGOs and service providers to

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Speaker 3: what this needs to look like.

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, let's talk about Alice, because we know that

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Speaker 1: things are once again pretty rough there at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Or late last week, multiple taxis were rammed with a

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Speaker 1: stolen vehicle, with one driver targeted twice and allegedly threatened

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Speaker 1: with an iron bar. That's what the Northern Territory Police

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Speaker 1: say now. They alleged that there were four attacks on

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Speaker 1: Police alleged that a group of youths approached the taxi driver,

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Speaker 1: as I said, with an iron bar. He was threatened

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Speaker 1: and forced to hand over cash, amongst other things. You

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Speaker 1: know what is happening in Alice Springs because it you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you go all right, things seem to have quietened

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Speaker 1: down a little bit, then they just blow up again.

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Speaker 1: But there seems to be a group of people that

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Speaker 1: really just think or know that they can do whatever

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Speaker 1: they want. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there is total lawlessness.

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Speaker 3: And this is where with young people, they've been raised

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Speaker 3: under eight years of a labor government where there's been

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Speaker 3: no consequences to turn that ingrained behavior around is very

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Speaker 3: very challenging, lenging and the level of violence and destruction

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Speaker 3: and cars being stolen and dangerous behavior, it's absolutely terrifying, Katie.

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Speaker 3: It's terrifying for our police, our community and it's unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we've lowered the age of criminal responsibility.

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Speaker 3: We've got the ram raid powers in there, but at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, we want less cr do.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, it's just get on top of the

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Speaker 3: criminals faster. But Operation Ludlow is operating in Alice Springs

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Speaker 3: and we know summer is a very high time of

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Speaker 3: crime for Alice. They've already engaged in thirty two arrests,

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Speaker 3: thirty one protective custodies.

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Speaker 2: They've been doing the wandering.

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Speaker 3: They've had forty six wanding scans, operations happening, breaches of

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Speaker 3: band drinker orders. So the operation is out there.

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Speaker 3: You know, you would feel so vulnerable and theose cracked

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Speaker 2: Do the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not that hard. But we have an entire generation

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Speaker 1: A few listener questions coming through. I'll get to those

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Speaker 1: The NT News is this morning reporting that the COLP

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Speaker 3: No, we don't have any plans to change any of

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Speaker 3: do that. So the Member for Goyida table that petition.

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Speaker 3: That's what his community asked him to do, and he's

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Speaker 2: It'll have its Daycati, well.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand why we've been even looking at

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Speaker 3: But that's different to the petition. Right if we were

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Speaker 2: People have a right to be heard.

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Speaker 3: It's their parliament, it's their process, and at the end

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Speaker 1: So it's not a situation here where you've got members

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. But it is important that people

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Speaker 3: You know, there. You can literally do a petition about

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Speaker 1: Lea. I know your press for time, as are we,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and look it's never a good time. So

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Speaker 3: Felt that if they gave the public service a pay raise,

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Speaker 1: Lea. Did you go to the unveiling of the sculpture

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Speaker 3: And so this Christmas is a tough time for a

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Speaker 1: I reckon it is going to be a very tough time. Hey,

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Speaker 3: The next I would like to know one sculpture that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lea Finocchio, Chief Minister of the Northern Territory. Good

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Speaker 1: to catch up with you. Thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, take care.