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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to the Willow What Are You behind

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Speaker 1: the Scenes podcast, obviously the podcast where we answer your

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Speaker 1: questions and you can hit U up with any questions.

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Speaker 1: Just d m us Instagram, will and Woody if you've

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Speaker 1: got a question or a question as we call it

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Speaker 1: in this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Woods Now, Tommy, you have the question today from the

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Speaker 2: question box.

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Speaker 3: I thought i'd dig a bit deeper. So I see

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Speaker 3: you guys taking them off the top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's well, it's the standard way to pick something

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Speaker 2: out of a box.

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Speaker 3: Le'd say, Oh really, well, yeah, I just take the

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Speaker 3: first thing.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: The rule is take the first one, so it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter if we take it from the top or the bottom.

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 1: Oh, well, in my world it's usually quite different whether

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Speaker 1: it's the top or bottom.

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Speaker 5: Well, well done, you flipped on us there.

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Speaker 3: You good.

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Speaker 2: Give us the question, tom If you go back in

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Speaker 2: time to the day before you met each other, would

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Speaker 2: you choose to meet again or travel the unknown path?

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Speaker 2: And I, yeah, well, obviously we're pretty happy with meeting

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Speaker 2: like we wouldn't we wouldn't be in this or travel

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Speaker 2: the unknown path sounds horrific speaking to a very anxious

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Speaker 2: person like why, well, hey, things are going really well.

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Speaker 5: You love your job, you have a great relationship with Will.

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Speaker 5: You know what, You've got a beautiful trouble. We both

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Speaker 5: got beautiful children.

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Speaker 2: Like really like we we you know, when you look

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Speaker 2: at what we've got, we're incredibly grateful for what we're

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Speaker 2: going through.

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Speaker 5: Or would you like to throw all of that away

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Speaker 5: to the.

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, things are going really well at the moment,

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Speaker 1: we like, you know, couldn't be more grateful. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is almost like this is like

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Speaker 1: the antidote to gratitude practice. Here the grass is always greener,

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Speaker 1: boys stuff, there are other things if you had to

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Speaker 1: give me. I feel as if this question would have

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Speaker 1: been enriched by like a solid alternate Hypothetical'll.

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Speaker 5: Tell you what I will entertain.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's entertain what the other option could be, so

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Speaker 2: what it would look like. Well, so if we never met,

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Speaker 2: that means we never would have done these To really

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Speaker 2: go back to the history of Will and Woody, we

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Speaker 2: did these comedy sketch shows together and that kind of

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Speaker 3: That's a very short stategory.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say that the kind of the turning

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Speaker 1: point or the point where we both because we were

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Speaker 1: both doing our own thing. We met at school and

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Speaker 1: then we left school and did our own thing.

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Speaker 3: So Woody, you were a pet.

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Speaker 5: Studying personal trainer, one of the absolute worst.

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Speaker 1: Studying commerce, studying commerce and sports science.

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Speaker 2: The biggest feedback from my boss when I was a

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Speaker 2: personal trainer was, mate, You've got to go to the

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Speaker 2: alt the whole line. But that's only because I was

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Speaker 2: like twenty years old and I'd start at six am,

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Speaker 2: and like, obviously I was going out the night before,

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Speaker 5: Of course, but it just comes out in your sweat.

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Speaker 1: So that's what Woody was doing, and I was doing.

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Speaker 1: I was doing law, so we were kind of and

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Speaker 1: working as a barista. So I think that the moment

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Speaker 1: then was I'd done one of these lot review things

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Speaker 1: and I was like, all these comedy sketch shows, and

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Speaker 3: Want to come and do it?

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Speaker 2: So I think I didn't have much on I think

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Speaker 2: I've been fired from the gym of his well.

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Speaker 1: I think, actually, funnily enough, I remember you're telling me

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Speaker 5: It was a bit of a trend. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 5: very different animal, but yes, that is true. I arrived

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Speaker 5: and was like, I just can't, I can't do this.

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Speaker 1: So I think if we're going to like let's let's

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Speaker 1: go to the let's go to the turning point, you

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Speaker 1: have to be me asking you to go and do it, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you being too hungover and saying.

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Speaker 3: No, okay.

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Speaker 5: So if I went home that don't drink kids.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if this is a course of the retail

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Speaker 2: And I honestly wish thirty five of my I wish

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Speaker 2: I could tell twenty year old mey late, there's no

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Speaker 5: Stop doing the thing that you think you should be doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, a lot of pain behind those eyes. But so

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Speaker 2: if I went home, what I'm I doing?

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Speaker 3: So you go home that day? We probably because I

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Speaker 3: feeling when I reached out to you for that thing.

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Speaker 1: We I don't think we'd drifted a Yeah, we'd probably

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Speaker 1: drifted apart a bit. Like you were a year older

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Speaker 1: different union. You would have your own thing in a

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Speaker 2: Or we were going out when we were going out,

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Speaker 2: when we were going out socially, I thought you were

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Speaker 2: saying that when we dated, that's when i'd see you out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, let's not reopen that box.

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Speaker 1: So I feel as if we almost probably would have

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Speaker 1: kept kind of like floating into our different directions.

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Speaker 5: So what do you think you'd be doing now? I

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Speaker 5: think that's the what would.

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Speaker 1: You be saying?

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Speaker 3: Is in like the great unknown?

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Speaker 1: I feel as if it is a reality whereby we

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Speaker 3: Each other's lives all that much. But what are you

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Speaker 3: terrifying to think of it?

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Speaker 5: But what are you doing? Like are you a lawyer?

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Speaker 1: I probably still know that I hated doing law because

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Speaker 1: I still did, because you remember, I was working at

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Speaker 1: a I was working in a firm at the time

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Speaker 1: called Herbert Gear what he used to call it Herbert's Gears,

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Speaker 1: and he used to hate it.

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Speaker 3: He used to hate it because I used to go

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Speaker 3: because I was still kept the dream of being a

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Speaker 5: Late night radio. And I was like we need to

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Speaker 3: Herbert's gears. That's right, we're doing late no wait radio.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes he would come over to.

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Speaker 1: My apartment early and he'd put his testicles on a

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Speaker 1: on like a Herbert gear. That's what's not all that

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Speaker 1: I had and take a photo of them and when

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Speaker 5: That she is quite funny, that she is pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: But when when Will says my apartment, he is referring

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Speaker 2: to his family home, by the way, because you were

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Speaker 2: never lived in an apartment. That was you were upstairs

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Speaker 2: in your family home, in your king single bed. If

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Speaker 2: I recall Essendon bombers with bench sheets as well, red

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Speaker 2: it his apartment when he was out, Do you want

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Speaker 2: to come back to my apartment? Is your apartment just

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Speaker 3: Coming up?

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Speaker 1: So he wouldn't do law no, because I did a

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Speaker 1: week of that clerkship and I was like, this is

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Speaker 3: But again maybe it's because I was so.

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Speaker 1: Strong about that because we were doing a radio We're

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Speaker 1: doing late night radio when I started doing a clerkship,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I clearly know what job I prefer.

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Speaker 1: So maybe that gave me the confidence to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: like if I didn't have another thing going on, then

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Speaker 3: This is it.

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Speaker 1: This is what you've been, this is all you've got,

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Speaker 1: is what you've been training for. Yeah, you know, muscle up,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I would have stuck with the exercise

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Speaker 2: science stuff. I had this idea in my head at

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Speaker 2: the head trainer of an elite sporting club. That was

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Speaker 5: I was going to be the head guy. I was

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Speaker 2: So that was like there, like, look, big vibe guy,

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Speaker 2: good camaraderie, knowledge not so good, but yeah, get around

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Speaker 5: So that was kind of the trajectory.

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Speaker 2: But I think the older I got them more, I

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Speaker 2: Not really what I'm keen on, I actually think because

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Speaker 2: where we were doing nothing, I became very close to

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Speaker 2: becoming the Brisbane There was a Brisbane Zoo and I

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Speaker 2: crowd before the croc Wrangler came out, that's right, And

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Speaker 2: I'd got a few interviews for that, and I was

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Speaker 5: I can't really remember, but it was. It was one

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Speaker 3: Think in for the North. How much does that pay?

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Speaker 2: Would he?

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Speaker 5: From memory?

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Speaker 2: Not not amazing. And because I wasn't the main act.

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Speaker 2: I was just the guy that came on. Everyone was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this dickhead of bringing out there.

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Speaker 1: You warm me up the crowd, You warming up the

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Speaker 1: cross like you I'm warming up a bit of croc

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Speaker 1: bait as well, like you're teasing the crocs out of

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Speaker 1: the water as well.

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Speaker 5: A little bit a little bit of that, like, oh, there.

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Speaker 2: Are some big boys in here ostro, don't attack, don't

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Speaker 2: attack the woodstuff.

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Speaker 5: But that kind of thing. And then like that obviously

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Speaker 5: be some kids there at the show, and I.

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Speaker 1: Do people are like the most depressed people on the planet.

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Speaker 1: Like they are like they are they're dead in their eyes.

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Speaker 1: Those people, they're the kind of people it one day

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Speaker 1: you like threw himself into the crocing closure, you know,

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Speaker 1: like that's it's kind of where it feels like I

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Speaker 2: He was so committed to the job that he knew

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Speaker 2: crocs with the crocs. But no, but I but I

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Speaker 2: actually think, funnily enough, I would have been pretty good

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Speaker 5: But yeah, make it still come to that dream come true?

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Speaker 3: Would you if you'd like, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, the idea of it did seem like fun making

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Speaker 2: that happen if you if you like, Because I do

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Speaker 2: think I would be quite good at it. But again,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't the main act. It was almost like Steve

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Speaker 2: Ellen's the main act. Yeah, so I'd bring out I'd

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Speaker 3: So you'd be a crock trainer.

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Speaker 2: So ill I wouldn't call it crockdowner. I'd be the

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Speaker 2: warm up act for a crock trainer, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, that sounds good.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, if I was, I would I reckon,

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Speaker 1: I would have gone hard into going to like it.

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Speaker 3: I probably would have studied again.

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Speaker 5: You just would have gone back into study's deep in study.

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Speaker 3: Found the mountain of books to hide under.

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Speaker 5: I prefer the warm up act for a croc handler

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Speaker 1: I think I was pretty close to applying to go

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Speaker 5: Oh, film director. Oh yeah, something like that, hockon.

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Speaker 3: That would have been it. So you would have been

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Speaker 3: maybe what I would have directed you one day for.

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Speaker 5: That would have been a good intro job.

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Speaker 2: Direct the warm up guy for the crop, do a

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Speaker 2: documentary on the warm up guy for the croc handler.

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Speaker 1: Directing a Kroc document entry. And then our parts came

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Speaker 3: Crocker Block.

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Speaker 4: Crocker Bloc fora into documentary making. I like when we

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Speaker 4: just does the sweep of the logies Crocker Blog, I

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Speaker 4: win best Best New Talent. I think it's the award

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Speaker 4: for crocer Blog. You win if best director is.

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Speaker 2: An award at the logis Clean And then it's like,

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Speaker 2: hang on a second. Someone goes, you boys should do

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Speaker 2: radio radio. Crocer Block loved it.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: So even if we dived into the great unknown ten

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Speaker 1: years ago, we would have been brought back together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and which path do you prefer?

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Speaker 5: Actually? That one?

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Speaker 2: That one's probably fun you Yeah, we're doing the sweep

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Speaker 2: of the logis, which is good fun.

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Speaker 1: Yep, which is reverse engineered it. We've got no radio

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Speaker 5: You know, yeah, it's hard to it's hard to tell,

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Speaker 5: okat it. Well, you might. We might not have met

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Speaker 5: our partners. That's a big one.

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Speaker 2: I would have met my partner, how you would never

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Speaker 2: I would have met Mim because I'm in Brisbane doing

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Speaker 2: being the warm.

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Speaker 5: Up act for a croc handler. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: But in that world that's so funny that radio was

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Speaker 1: like you know. Yeah, without radio, we don't meet partners.

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Speaker 2: I think in my other world, I just I see

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Speaker 2: myself having an affair with the croc handler's partner. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why, and I'm probably going into it too much, but.

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Speaker 3: He will see you guys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, at least you're not having an affair with a

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Speaker 4: croc I'm reading too much golling over all, Right, we'll

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Speaker 3: See you guys, see you guys, right,