WEBVTT - Anna Paul Takes Coachella After Cancellation 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.240 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.719 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.160 Sophie Torbert and coming up on today's show, Mikhayla Tester 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.760 drops all the dirty details on Anna Paul's secret relationship, 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.880 Alex Earl declares boobs are back at Coachella, and James 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.959 Charles's surprising house guests. But first, we have some exciting 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.760 yews to share. Amy has given birth to her son, 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:32.040 Little Harry George Humphreys. He's absolutely adorable. He's his father's twin. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.519 For some reason, us Torber women seem to birth our 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.600 husbands because he is the spitting image of Dale. I 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.040 was holding him the other day and I'm like, I 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.559 feel like I'm holding a mini version of you. It's crazy. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:43.600 I definitely know that I'll be giving birth to a 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.040 mini brand in eight weeks time. I don't even have 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.279 to consider that my baby might look a little bit 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.960 like me. But we were so nervous on Monday because 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.360 we knew that Amy was giving birth and we were 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.960 trying to record the episode. Yeah, we didn't think it 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.880 was going to be so rush because when I went 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.480 in for mayases area. We waited all day. You guys 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.120 didn't get to see Jack until like ten o'clock at night, 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.039 and instead Amy got a call from the hospital in 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.000 the morning saying, could you get here quicker. We've bumped 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.080 you up the queue. You're number one ready to go. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.039 And this is bad because Amy and Dale are quite 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.680 often late, so they were rushing around trying to get 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.600 in there on time. They were on time, but then 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.760 they ended up getting bumped for someone else, so it 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:23.720 was a bit of an ordeal. But we were really 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.880 nervous because Amy had a cesarean due to the fact 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.199 that she had a fibroid. I don't think she's spoken 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.959 about it on the podcast before, but we were just 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.360 waiting to hear any sort of news because obviously a 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.640 fibroid can complicate a cesarean. Yeah, we were so nervous, 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.640 and they went mia for a couple of hours. They 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.440 didn't actually say that they'd gone in, and you and 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.440 I could not spit out a sentence on the podcast. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.240 I listened back to it, I'm like, good editing on 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.360 your behalf, so because I'm like it seemed like we 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.440 sort of strung something together by apologies, My mind was 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.040 like miles away during that recording. But it's just been 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.760 so lovely because we've been able to enjoy Harry over 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.560 the Easter break. So every year we go to Bile 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.040 National Park. We have all of our in laws, which 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:06.880 some people might find weird. I think it's so lovely 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.799 that everyone gets along. We all have a tennis day 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.160 and Harry ended up coming along. Everyone's like, Amy, you're 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.200 not gonna make it six days after giving birth. She 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.840 made it. And she was wearing jeans. They were maternity 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:20.960 they were I take my hat off to her. Though 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.080 she also had boots with a heel where she usually 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.320 gets around in sand hues. I don't know what she was. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.360 Maybe she's changed during motherhood. Look, I think she's probably 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.960 high on the end dome, to be honest, because I 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.240 remember those days. But yeah, I was very impressive. She 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:35.600 managed to get out of the house. She was at 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.920 a cafe the other day, so yeah, she set me 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.040 the most beautiful message. Though she's said, I know that 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.120 it's been a difficult week, but it's actually been the 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.040 most special week and it's been so nice to do 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.320 the feeds with Dale and it's just been so exciting 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.000 to wake up to Harry and again she might be 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.480 high on the endo, but it made me feel a 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.280 little bit better about what's to come. She's like, you 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.200 and Brandon will absolutely love your time off together. Rees 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.600 and I actually went on last night and we were 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.640 feeding Jack. We're actually using Harry's highchair, and it was 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.600 so nice to have just two kids there and sort 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.280 of like, I know there are any parents for the 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.480 last week, but it was sort of an understanding. So 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.720 I'm very excited for you to join the Little Mum's 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.800 group there, Sophie. Yeah, well eight weeks away now, so 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.520 it's becoming real. Amy will be sharing her birth experience 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.160 on Outspoken very soon. It will be available for everyone 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.519 to listen to. I know she's raring to get back 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.200 on the mic. She's like, can I do it this week? 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.239 I'm like, babe, it's a short a week. We've already 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.640 lost Monday and Friday. That is why this episode is 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.720 coming to you on Wednesday. But I feel like no 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.400 one really knows what day of the week it is 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.200 at the moment. Now, I've got no clue. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.240 Maybe if I fucking blasted this fucking scumbag in this 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.160 family's name already earlier, she wouldn't have had to deal 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:45.080 with what she dealt with. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.880 Mikayla Testa has dropped the third installment in her explosive 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.000 podcast series centered on the Paul family. In the two 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.440 hour episode, The Only Fans Creator Champion the voices of 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.600 Addis Paul's other alleged victims. It was definitely a very 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.280 heavy episode to listen to, but I want to kick 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.920 things off today with some of the lighter moments which 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.040 were sprinkled throughout this episode, because there were definitely quite 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:11.360 a few. One was Michayla sharing her reaction to Addas 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:16.360 Paul's infamous rebrand from cryptocurrency dickhead to sensitive and softly 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.599 smoken art love it. This was so funny and hats 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.919 off to Michayla's fiance, Maxwell Kraus for this section. So 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.919 listeners may not know, but he actually edited Michayla's whole 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.520 podcast series and the way he juxtapositions certain upsots and 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.599 videos of Addis during Michayla's takedown of him was genius. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.200 I feel like he probably got a kick out of it. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.520 Let's listen to some of them. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:43.120 So yeah, seeing him be this golden retriever energy lovey 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:47.840 dovey fucking guy. When this is the reality of who 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:48.359 Addis is. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.600 Hold back when my dumbas bitch excides being absolutely rich 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.839 as fuck. I went out on my four million dollar balcony. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.359 This is that one hundred fucking thousand dollars wall in 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.400 my house. Also, look at my new necklace. I was 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.599 gonna buy pearls, but that's for broke Fox and his sister. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.600 Is enabling this fucking rebrand. I was watching this rebrand 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.200 happen and I was so shocked, and I was like, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.360 these people are buying this shit. When I saw him 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:19.159 dancing around on TikTok to Olivia Rodrigo, you know, Taylor 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.640 Swift and like growing his hair out and fucking being 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.679 all pale and kawaii K pop shit, when the man's 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:27.640 never watched aname and is fucking live. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.719 Fuck that was funny. But those who haven't seen these videos, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.239 it's difficult to get the total vibe from just listening 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.000 to the audio. But this is when Addis was rebranding 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.000 his new look, and he showed himself doing all of 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:46.000 these bizarre TikTok dancers, and he literally looked like a 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.960 different person. He grew his hair really long, he got 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.440 all of these piercings and he started to wear makeup 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.920 and as Mikayla touched on, he had very pale skin. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.599 And it was actually around this time that some people 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.920 began to question whether he was transit, and there were 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.839 also rumors swelling about his sexuality. And Mikayla said she 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.200 noticed that Adas began to imitate and mimic and as 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:12.119 cutes the innocent persona that she's known for online. Here's 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.320 an example that she gave. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.360 I think I've noticed that. I think it's the cutest 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.680 thing ever. People are calling me Johannahs. So the people, like, 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.240 not everybody, are the people that have been following me 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:20.880 for a while less saying like, oh, I hope you've 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.159 eaten today, Hannah, I hope you're feeling good, Like like, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.839 how do you know that's my name? Who told you 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.560 that's my real name? I've said of it. It's just the 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:27.040 cutest thing. 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.360 That makes my skin crawl. Knowing what we do know now, 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.960 and it's hard to believe anyone actually bought into this act, 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.360 but we did. Yeah, I mean we did a whole 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.000 segment on his rebrain Well in everyone's defense, though, I 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.240 think we are only just learning now the level of 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.400 manipulation and strategy that was going on by the Pole family. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.080 And I remember during this time there was a lot 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.839 of concern over Addis's mental health because he had taken 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.400 some time off socials and it appeared as though he 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.440 was really going through something, and there was this thought 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.800 that maybe we'd all got it wrong about him, and 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.200 this cryptocurrency content was a bit of an act and 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.200 it was almost as though you couldn't question it because 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.279 it was a bit gas light, let's be asked. And 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.480 if you do look at the dates, it seems to 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.320 be the time that Adis was actually going through his trial, Yeah, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.000 which really adds another element to it. And I think 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.480 that Anna really played into this rebrand because she has 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.640 previously said in tiktoks that Adis was simply playing a 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.480 character online during his cryptocurrency days. So in a TikTok, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.840 Ana claimed that Adis came to them one night and said, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.840 should I pretend to be a total fuck with in 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.000 my TikTok videos and see if it goes off? And 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.320 it did. Whilst Makayla did acknowledge that he exaggerated his 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.040 personality in these videos, she said it is essentially how 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.520 he would talk on a regular basis. She said he's 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.120 a huge flexer and has a big ego. So she 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.240 confirmed that this is the real Adas Pole and this 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.120 was backed up in Mikayla's podcast with a TikTok that 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.160 she shared, which was created by a young woman who 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.800 went to school with the Polls. She said she was 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.040 best friends with Adams Paul at that time and basically 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.040 played the role of mediator in his relationship with Alice Patterson. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.239 Just to point out, we are now referring to Alice 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.920 Patterson by name and not calling her Jane. We did 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.080 want to give her some privacy, but in the last 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.280 week she actually has come out and done an interview 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.920 with The Courier Male talking about her experience with Addis 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.920 Paul and said that she was happy to be named. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.000 And she's also been very vocal on her own TikTok, 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.120 So for anyone who wants to check out her content 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.120 on there, they can now This high school friend claimed 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.960 that both Addis and Anna are putting on an act 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.559 and performing for views. She said that Addis wasn't charitable 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.959 or giving in any way, and she said at school 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.400 he would actually piss up the walls every time he 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.840 went to the toilet because he thought it was funny 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.120 that someone had to clean it up. Is it sad? 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:46.800 That actually takes me back to my high school days? 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.040 Not that I did that, but it reminds you of 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.319 the site I think you could do. That reminds you 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.360 of the things that the dickheads at our school used 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.840 to do. Very immature now. Mikayla also spilt the tea 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.760 on Anna's secret relationship with Amrik Urbane. Now, for some background, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.600 started appearing in Anna's content very shortly after her breakup 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.560 with Glenn, and Anna claimed that they weren't dating and 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.720 he was just this family friend, and a lot of 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.560 people thought, oh, is this Adis's boyfriend? Yeah, And it 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.679 was weird that she claimed he was a family friend 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.679 because he just suddenly popped up out of nowhere. He 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.360 never previously appeared in any content when Glenn was around, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.319 and he started traveling with her pretty good family friend, 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.760 And as you said, Kate, there was a lot of 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.280 confusion is this Adas Poul's new boyfriend? Because this was 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.240 around the time that he was starting this rebrand and 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.120 there was a few question marks over his sexuality which 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.280 again I don't think is right for anyone to speculate on. Yeah, 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.720 and Anna being silent on this relationship didn't help the 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.640 situation because fans started building their own narrative and put 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.360 two and two together and thought maybe she cheated on 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.840 Glenn with Amrik. And that's because Amork started popping up 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.280 literally the month that she announced her breakup with Glenn, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.480 and as the months went on, Amork appeared in even 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.240 more of Anna's content and they looked very cuply in 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.720 a number of her Instagram There was a video also 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.480 that was circulating at the start of the year of 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.800 their making out in a pool in the Wit Sundays, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.640 which pretty much confirmed that they are together, but still 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.920 there has been no official confirmation from Anna that they 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.640 are a couple. That is until now, because Mikayla apparently 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.559 got her intel from Addis's most recent girlfriend, Jamiah, who 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.960 confirmed the worst kept secret that they are in fact together. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.840 Of course they are now. Jamiah claims that Anna and 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.400 Amrik met when he had just turned eighteen and Anna 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.760 was twenty three, so there's a five year age gap 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.600 between them, and the most interesting detail of this story 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.480 is that Amrik is allegedly the son of the couple 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.200 who own the stables and facilities that Anna's horse is 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:47.480 kept at. Oh, so not a family friend, and Jamiah says, well, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.400 Anna was still dating Glenn, she started to develop a 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.120 crush on Amrik, and Jamiah believes there was some emotional 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.240 cheating involved. Mikayla did add in that she had it 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.760 on good authority that allegedly it was full cheating, so 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.680 physical cheating as well. Jamiah did go into bat for 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.800 Amrik though, and said that he's a lovely guy and 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.120 he would often look out for her whilst they were 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:12.079 traveling together, and she told Mikayla that Amrik is basically 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:16.120 Anna's personal slave allegedly, but doesn't mind it because he 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.120 gets free weed and gets to trouble the world. Look, 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:20.920 I mean I can see where he's coming from. I 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.319 mean he's a young guy getting to travel the world 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.560 for free. If Anna says go get me a year ross, 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.000 or go get me this or that, it's pretty good exchange. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:31.959 Were you going to feel indebted to that person, aren't you? 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.400 There's going to be a bit of a power in 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.640 balance going on. Yeah, definitely, And Mikayla also weighed in 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.000 on Anna's relationship with Glenn. She said that she exploited 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.800 him and his kindness, and she made it clear that 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.280 none of this information was coming from Glenn and it 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.320 was all her own opinion. She did say that Glenn 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.560 didn't like that Adas took their OnlyFans photos, though, well, 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.559 who is going to like that? He's completely weird now. 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.320 Aside from some of these lighter moments, Part three was 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:02.240 all about giving a voice to Adas Paul's other alleged victims, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.000 his most recent girlfriend Jamiah, who were of course speaking 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.680 about now, and his high school girlfriend Alice Patterson. Now, 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.640 with permission from Jamia, Mikayla shared a number of disturbing 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.880 and downright disgusting text messages that Adis allegedly sent her. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.760 They made my skin crawl. I felt really awkward even 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.400 just reading them. And in a number of the text messages, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.080 Adas allegedly called Jamiah his fetish and he said that 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.360 he wanted to feel her soft skin when he's inside her. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.400 They were a lot more graphic than that, but that's 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.800 probably one that we can talk about on the podcast. 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.080 And Jamiah has gone into detail about the alleged abuse 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.640 that she experienced whilst dating Adis Paul on her own 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.720 TikTok account. One of the videos has already attracted well 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.720 over a million views, and the other is sitting on 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.880 the seven hundred thousand view mark. And this is despite 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.520 the fact that she only just made up her account. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.720 This is the first video she's ever put out there. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.760 I mean, Mikayla did share them on her own platforms, 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.920 but they've obviously got a lot of traction. I sat 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.880 there absolutely glued to them. They were hard to watch, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.040 but I do think it gave a very interesting insight 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.040 into their relationships, apparent just how young she was and 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.679 shaken she was. You could see in her eyes that 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.920 she was terrified, and I really applaud her for her 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.720 bravery for speaking out. It would be very difficult, particularly 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:21.120 to put out text messages between you and your partner 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.400 at the time. Yeah, and what I found so hard 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.319 watching both Mikayla and Jamia tell their stories is they 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.400 really still do blame themselves despite them being the victims. Now, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.719 we won't go into what she said, as she did 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.720 make some very serious allegations and for legal reasons, we 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.440 can't cover them and we would hate to jeopardize any 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.840 information that could potentially be used in court, because Michayla 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.560 has since come out and said that she and the 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.120 other women are in the process of going to the 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.760 police about their allegations, which I think is a really 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.079 good move. What we can talk about is that Jamiah believes, 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.600 just like Mikayla, that Anna started copying certain traits of 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:01.000 her personality. So Jamiah explained that she has allism, and 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.079 she alleges that Anna started playing up certain quirks in 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.400 her videos and essentially started pretending to be autistic. Mikayla 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.800 backed this up by sharing a couple of Anna's past videos, 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.920 and I can definitely see where Jamiah is coming from. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.760 And Mikayla said that Anna does this because whenever Adas 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.440 has a new girlfriend, she tries to be whoever he's dating. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.400 That's very strange. When I was watching part three, one 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.360 thing that really stuck out to me was just how 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.000 rapped with gilt Michayla is over how things played out 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.000 online with Alice Patterson. Now we have spoken to depth 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.680 about this in previous episodes, but in twenty twenty one, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.520 when Alice was just sixteen years old, she made a 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.880 TikTok about dating an older man who took advantage of her. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.840 Now the man she was referring to was Adis Paul, 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.920 and Alice alleges that she was only thirteen at the 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.720 time when she was dating a then sixteen year old Addis. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.840 Now Mikayla alleged in part one that Addis and Anna 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.720 tried to silence Alice by sending a fake cease and 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.640 desist letter and then slamming her in an online video. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.960 Michayla then released very unflattering behind the scenes vision of 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.240 Anna and Adas conspiring to get their story right and 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.600 being condescending about Alice, calling her a little girl, and 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.640 Adis joking that he never found her attractive, and you 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.720 could hear Michayla's voice in the background of these videos 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.400 also coaching them on what to say. And she has 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.280 since said that she feels immense guilt over this and 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:26.240 for believing Addis and not speaking up sooner. And it 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.200 is clear that this podcast series for Michayla is all 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.320 about writing or wrong, because she got really emotional at 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.240 the end of the episode and said she wants to 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.080 fix what Alice had to go through and save any 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.600 other girls from experiencing what they've all experienced. Here's what 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:41.080 she said. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.160 And it's taken me here. It's to fucking say the story. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.600 It's taking me such a long fucking time to common 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.640 Cameron speak and say that should I witness to say 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.760 my fucking story, give receedts back, Alice up, fix my 0:15:55.840 --> 0:16:00.840 wrongs because I hurt that girl and it and it 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.800 fucking ate me live up every day to know that 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.400 I had these receipts on my laptop. I had the 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.280 proof and I wasn't fucking showing anyone because I was 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:13.280 weak as fucking piss and me not speaking up cause 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.560 Jammy had to get fucking hurt. Maybe if I fucking 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.880 blasted this fucking scumbag in this family's name already earlier, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.520 she wouldn't have had to deal with what. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.760 She dealt with now. Mikayla went on to say that 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.360 she's not just a victim, but she was an enabler 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.800 and she's only really realized the gravity of the situation 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.360 that she was in with Addison, how abusive it was, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.960 since she's been with her fiance Max Kraus. Yeah, and 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.720 she just spoke with so much awareness in this podcast series, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.520 and it was in stark contrast to Anna, who took 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.400 zero accountability for her actions and tried to deflect the 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.200 whole time because Mikayla sat there and said, I'm not 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.720 the perfect victim. I did play a part in all 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.040 of this. I feel immensely guilty over it. But I 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:54.720 want to write this wrong and I think that that's 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.480 very commendable. She also touched on her childhood trauma and 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.560 being diagnosed with borderline per personality disorder during her relationship 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.440 with Addis, and she said she doesn't always get everything right. Interestingly, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.040 she did reveal that she hasn't actually left her house 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.560 since March third, so she's been inside for over six weeks. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.160 She's essentially in hiding, whilst Anna is just gallivanting around 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.320 the world and popping up at Coachella, which we will 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.440 be talking about shortly. We did touch on it a 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.280 little bit earlier in this segment, but I do want 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.320 to commend Alice Patterson and the Courier Mail. Alice agreed 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.359 to be interviewed by the publication and it is just 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.320 so brave of her to share her story in the 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.920 mainstream media. I would highly recommend everyone go and read 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.199 that article a. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:34.560 Lot of times. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.640 Of you guys here your favorite influencers at Cotella. They're 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.800 here on a brandial, so the Brandle paper are at 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.440 their past their hoteler Airbnb. 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.400 Coachella twenty twenty five did not disappoint The music festival, 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.120 dubbed the Influencer Olympics has been dominating for you pages 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.520 thanks to the outrageous fashion and the attendance of one 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:57.840 controversial influencer. But outside of the brand activations and influencer Villa's, 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.439 things weren't very instagrammable to begin with. Kate No. Some 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.440 people have actually started comparing Coachella to the infamous Fire Festival. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.240 So a mix of near record high temperatures and a 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:13.640 traffic situation had some festival goalers describing it as literal hell. 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.639 So thousands of patrons were trapped in traffic for up 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.639 to twelve hours to get into the grounds in thirty 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.639 eight degree heat, and many attendees complain the conditions were 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.919 the worse since the festival began in nineteen ninety nine. 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.119 As someone who has been involved in music festivals before 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.520 and had situations evolved with the weather, I really hope 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.680 that there was an organizer who thought about handing out 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.399 cold water in the queue. They probably was that they 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.600 probably had an FPOs machine for like twenty dollars of 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.720 each bottle of water. Now, things did get back on track, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.240 but at the end of weekend, one Palm Springs was 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.520 actually rocked by a five point two magnitude earthquake. Can 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.960 you imagine the organizers are just like, for fuck's sake, 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:58.920 thirty eight degrees and an earthquake, we really don't need this. Yeah. Now, 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.240 as you said earlier, so if Coachella is the Influencer Olympics, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.879 and every influencer and their dog is either at the 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.920 festival or wishing they were there. I saw a lot 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.320 of influencers doing throwbacks, so Steph kles Smith and Toli Smyth, 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.040 it's almost like they're like, oh, we're in our thirties now, 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:15.640 so we're not going to get inviter, so let's throw 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.960 back to when we were there. These throwback photos were everywhere, 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.840 and I did really enjoy looking through them and seeing 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.760 how the fashion has changed at Coachella, but also seeing 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.520 how much has changed in just a short period of 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.480 time because these are not old school photos. Some of 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.480 them were taken like five years ago. Yeah, I feel 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.320 like Steph Klesmith was wishing that she was at Coachella 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.200