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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torbert and coming up on today's show, Mikhayla Tester

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Speaker 1: drops all the dirty details on Anna Paul's secret relationship,

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Speaker 1: Alex Earl declares boobs are back at Coachella, and James

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Speaker 1: Charles's surprising house guests. But first, we have some exciting

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Speaker 1: yews to share. Amy has given birth to her son,

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Speaker 1: Little Harry George Humphreys. He's absolutely adorable. He's his father's twin.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, us Torber women seem to birth our

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Speaker 1: husbands because he is the spitting image of Dale. I

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Speaker 1: was holding him the other day and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm holding a mini version of you. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I definitely know that I'll be giving birth to a

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Speaker 1: mini brand in eight weeks time. I don't even have

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Speaker 1: to consider that my baby might look a little bit

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Speaker 1: like me. But we were so nervous on Monday because

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Speaker 1: we knew that Amy was giving birth and we were

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Speaker 1: trying to record the episode. Yeah, we didn't think it

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Speaker 1: was going to be so rush because when I went

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Speaker 1: in for mayases area. We waited all day. You guys

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Speaker 1: didn't get to see Jack until like ten o'clock at night,

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Speaker 1: and instead Amy got a call from the hospital in

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Speaker 1: the morning saying, could you get here quicker. We've bumped

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Speaker 1: you up the queue. You're number one ready to go.

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Speaker 1: And this is bad because Amy and Dale are quite

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Speaker 1: often late, so they were rushing around trying to get

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Speaker 1: in there on time. They were on time, but then

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Speaker 1: they ended up getting bumped for someone else, so it

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Speaker 1: was a bit of an ordeal. But we were really

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Speaker 1: nervous because Amy had a cesarean due to the fact

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Speaker 1: that she had a fibroid. I don't think she's spoken

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Speaker 1: about it on the podcast before, but we were just

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Speaker 1: waiting to hear any sort of news because obviously a

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Speaker 1: fibroid can complicate a cesarean. Yeah, we were so nervous,

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Speaker 1: and they went mia for a couple of hours. They

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Speaker 1: didn't actually say that they'd gone in, and you and

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Speaker 1: I could not spit out a sentence on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I listened back to it, I'm like, good editing on

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Speaker 1: your behalf, so because I'm like it seemed like we

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Speaker 1: sort of strung something together by apologies, My mind was

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Speaker 1: like miles away during that recording. But it's just been

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Speaker 1: so lovely because we've been able to enjoy Harry over

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Speaker 1: the Easter break. So every year we go to Bile

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Speaker 1: National Park. We have all of our in laws, which

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Speaker 1: some people might find weird. I think it's so lovely

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Speaker 1: that everyone gets along. We all have a tennis day

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Speaker 1: and Harry ended up coming along. Everyone's like, Amy, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna make it six days after giving birth. She

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Speaker 1: made it. And she was wearing jeans. They were maternity

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Speaker 1: they were I take my hat off to her. Though

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Speaker 1: she also had boots with a heel where she usually

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Speaker 1: gets around in sand hues. I don't know what she was.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she's changed during motherhood. Look, I think she's probably

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Speaker 1: high on the end dome, to be honest, because I

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Speaker 1: remember those days. But yeah, I was very impressive. She

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Speaker 1: a cafe the other day, so yeah, she set me

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful message. Though she's said, I know that

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Speaker 1: it's been a difficult week, but it's actually been the

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Speaker 1: most special week and it's been so nice to do

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Speaker 1: the feeds with Dale and it's just been so exciting

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Speaker 1: to wake up to Harry and again she might be

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Speaker 1: little bit better about what's to come. She's like, you

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Speaker 1: and Brandon will absolutely love your time off together. Rees

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Speaker 1: and I actually went on last night and we were

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Speaker 1: feeding Jack. We're actually using Harry's highchair, and it was

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Speaker 1: so nice to have just two kids there and sort

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Speaker 1: last week, but it was sort of an understanding. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited for you to join the Little Mum's

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Speaker 1: group there, Sophie. Yeah, well eight weeks away now, so

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Speaker 1: it's becoming real. Amy will be sharing her birth experience

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Speaker 1: on Outspoken very soon. It will be available for everyone

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Speaker 1: to listen to. I know she's raring to get back

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Speaker 1: on the mic. She's like, can I do it this week?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, babe, it's a short a week. We've already

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Speaker 1: lost Monday and Friday. That is why this episode is

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Speaker 1: coming to you on Wednesday. But I feel like no

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Speaker 2: Maybe if I fucking blasted this fucking scumbag in this

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Speaker 2: family's name already earlier, she wouldn't have had to deal

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Speaker 1: Mikayla Testa has dropped the third installment in her explosive

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Speaker 1: podcast series centered on the Paul family. In the two

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Speaker 1: hour episode, The Only Fans Creator Champion the voices of

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Speaker 1: Addis Paul's other alleged victims. It was definitely a very

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Speaker 1: heavy episode to listen to, but I want to kick

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Speaker 1: things off today with some of the lighter moments which

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Speaker 1: were sprinkled throughout this episode, because there were definitely quite

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Speaker 1: a few. One was Michayla sharing her reaction to Addas

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Speaker 1: Paul's infamous rebrand from cryptocurrency dickhead to sensitive and softly

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Speaker 1: smoken art love it. This was so funny and hats

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Speaker 1: off to Michayla's fiance, Maxwell Kraus for this section. So

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Speaker 1: listeners may not know, but he actually edited Michayla's whole

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Speaker 1: podcast series and the way he juxtapositions certain upsots and

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Speaker 1: videos of Addis during Michayla's takedown of him was genius.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he probably got a kick out of it.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to some of them.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, seeing him be this golden retriever energy lovey

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Speaker 3: dovey fucking guy. When this is the reality of who

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Speaker 3: Addis is.

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Speaker 4: Hold back when my dumbas bitch excides being absolutely rich

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Speaker 4: as fuck. I went out on my four million dollar balcony.

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Speaker 4: This is that one hundred fucking thousand dollars wall in

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Speaker 4: my house. Also, look at my new necklace. I was

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Speaker 4: gonna buy pearls, but that's for broke Fox and his sister.

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Speaker 3: Is enabling this fucking rebrand. I was watching this rebrand

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Speaker 3: happen and I was so shocked, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: these people are buying this shit. When I saw him

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Speaker 3: dancing around on TikTok to Olivia Rodrigo, you know, Taylor

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Speaker 3: all pale and kawaii K pop shit, when the man's

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Speaker 3: never watched aname and is fucking live.

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Speaker 1: Fuck that was funny. But those who haven't seen these videos,

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to get the total vibe from just listening

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Speaker 1: to the audio. But this is when Addis was rebranding

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Speaker 1: And it was actually around this time that some people

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Speaker 1: noticed that Adas began to imitate and mimic and as

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Speaker 5: I think I've noticed that. I think it's the cutest

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Speaker 5: thing ever. People are calling me Johannahs. So the people, like,

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Speaker 5: for a while less saying like, oh, I hope you've

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Speaker 5: eaten today, Hannah, I hope you're feeling good, Like like,

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Speaker 5: how do you know that's my name? Who told you

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Speaker 5: that's my real name? I've said of it. It's just the

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Speaker 1: That makes my skin crawl. Knowing what we do know now,

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Speaker 1: and it's hard to believe anyone actually bought into this act,

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Speaker 1: but we did. Yeah, I mean we did a whole

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Speaker 1: segment on his rebrain Well in everyone's defense, though, I

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Speaker 1: think we are only just learning now the level of

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Speaker 1: manipulation and strategy that was going on by the Pole family.

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Speaker 1: And I remember during this time there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of concern over Addis's mental health because he had taken

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Speaker 1: be the time that Adis was actually going through his trial, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which really adds another element to it. And I think

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Speaker 1: previously said in tiktoks that Adis was simply playing a

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Speaker 1: character online during his cryptocurrency days. So in a TikTok,

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Speaker 1: Ana claimed that Adis came to them one night and said,

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Speaker 1: it did. Whilst Makayla did acknowledge that he exaggerated his

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Speaker 1: personality in these videos, she said it is essentially how

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Speaker 1: confirmed that this is the real Adas Pole and this

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Speaker 1: was backed up in Mikayla's podcast with a TikTok that

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Speaker 1: That actually takes me back to my high school days?

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Speaker 1: Not that I did that, but it reminds you of

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Speaker 1: of the things that the dickheads at our school used

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Speaker 1: to do. Very immature now. Mikayla also spilt the tea

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Speaker 1: on Anna's secret relationship with Amrik Urbane. Now, for some background,

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Speaker 1: people thought, oh, is this Adis's boyfriend? Yeah, And it

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Speaker 1: was weird that she claimed he was a family friend

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Speaker 1: And as you said, Kate, there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: and Anna being silent on this relationship didn't help the

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Speaker 1: more of Anna's content and they looked very cuply in

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Speaker 1: truly was innocent, she wouldn't be at Coachella. She'd be

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Speaker 1: back in Australia. Another said, Anna Paul having the balls

430
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Speaker 1: to be at Coachella right now as if nothing has

431
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Speaker 1: happened is crazy And this is the thing some people

432
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Speaker 1: might be thinking, Oh, well, she's in a different country.

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Speaker 1: People in America probably aren't aware of this controversy. No, no, no,

434
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Speaker 1: they are. This is globing. The Americans are more across

435
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Speaker 1: it than us. They are obsessed with Anna Paul. And

436
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Speaker 1: to add further intrigue to this whole story, it appears

437
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Speaker 1: the controversial influencer James Charles hosted Anna at the house

438
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Speaker 1: he rented for Coachella. So at first people were speculating

439
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: perhaps they were just on a brand trip together, but

440
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Speaker 1: James revealed on TikTok that he actually pays his own

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Speaker 1: way at Coachella. So in a video, he said he

442
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Speaker 1: hasn't been happy with the VIP treatment at Coachella and

443
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: went on a rant about how he no longer accepts

444
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Speaker 1: invites from brands anymore. This is what he said a

445
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Speaker 1: lot in.

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Speaker 6: Terms of you guys here your favorite influencers at Cotella.

447
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Speaker 6: They are here on a brand deal. So the brandle

448
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 6: people are at their past their hoteler, Airbnb, security, a driver,

449
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 6: and then an exchange. The influencer has to do a

450
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Speaker 6: brand aid content. Now, the last time that I accepted

451
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Speaker 6: a brand deal at Coachella was sheulgar Bet hair and

452
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Speaker 6: we all thought how that. So Ever, since then I

453
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Speaker 6: have politely declined and the Ecotella Branbils, which is totally fine,

454
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Speaker 6: but that does mean Abrigieri have to pay for my

455
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Speaker 6: own artist passes for myself and my team, and they

456
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Speaker 6: are really expensive.

457
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Speaker 1: I really love this insight because I find it fascinating

458
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Speaker 1: that influencers will big scale influencers don't want to accept

459
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Speaker 1: a free ticket anymore because they don't want to be

460
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Speaker 1: bound to all of these restrictions and to have to

461
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Speaker 1: create all this content because it looks rather tiring. So yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: the fact that they have so much money that they'd

463
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Speaker 1: rather pay their own way be allowed to do what

464
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Speaker 1: they want to do. Yeah, it's really interesting. I also

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Speaker 1: had to laugh when James referenced sugar Bear Hair. So,

466
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Speaker 1: for those not across the drama, sugar Bear Hair is

467
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Speaker 1: a vitamin company that was in direct competition with James's

468
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Speaker 1: then friend Taddy Westbrook. So James's collaboration with this rival

469
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Speaker 1: vitamin company actually spark the drama that went down in

470
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen between James and Tatty, which was drubbed Drama

471
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Speaker 1: Geddon two point zero. People are trying to work out

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Speaker 1: how James and Anna are connected and how are they friends,

473
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Speaker 1: and it's quite when you delve deeper into it because

474
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Speaker 1: they are both managed by Sam Maignan. So Sam is

475
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Speaker 1: the co founder of Anna's skincare brand, Paulie, and he

476
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Speaker 1: also is a friend of the show. So I am

477
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Speaker 1: a big fan of Sam Maignan. He is a fabulous guy. Yeah,

478
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Speaker 1: we have had him on the show. I think a

479
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Speaker 1: couple of times now, and he's always been so generous

480
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Speaker 1: with his time, and he's actually someone I really respect

481
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Speaker 1: in the industry. So I felt very uncomfortable when I

482
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Speaker 1: saw Mikayla Tester calling him out so well, because he

483
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Speaker 1: has his own PR company called Spin and Co. Yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: as you said, he's also the co founder of Anna

485
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Speaker 1: Paul's business, and they've done some fabulous things on the

486
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Speaker 1: Gold Coast. They've worked with some massive brands, and he

487
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Speaker 1: is very clever, very strategic. He's also the brother of

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite influences, Courtney mangan So this is

489
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Speaker 1: all getting very messy. Yes, this is all hit home,

490
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Speaker 1: hasn't it. So. On Mikayla's Instagram story, obviously everyone was

491
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Speaker 1: talking about James Charles and Anna Paul sort of talking about,

492
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Speaker 1: as you said, how they were connected, and she wrote,

493
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Speaker 1: he's also managed by the same man that managers Anna Poul.

494
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Speaker 1: Is it a coincidence I've been botted recently? I don't know.

495
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: She also said Chris Janna works harder, but Sam Mangard

496
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Speaker 1: works harder. Allegedly. From knowing what I know about Sam Mangnan,

497
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Speaker 1: I don't think that he's sitting around sending bots to

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Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester. No, I don't think that's adas Paul will

499
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Speaker 1: probably well, yeah, he was just recently on a European

500
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Speaker 1: vacation with his family. They're on a very special trip

501
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: which he actually gifted to his sister Courtney when she

502
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with cancer and due to COVID, this trip

503
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: kept getting pushed back. But they have been holiday and

504
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: they've been having the time of their lives. I don't

505
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Speaker 1: think that he's sitting around and sending bots to anyone.

506
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's in his personality to do so.

507
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Speaker 1: Or he's very professional. Also coming from the perspective of

508
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Speaker 1: people who have worked in pr like when I used

509
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Speaker 1: to manage the thirty six is media, I would suggest

510
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Speaker 1: to do things to the owner of the club. Did

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Speaker 1: he listen all the time?

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Speaker 5: No?

513
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Speaker 1: Did he do a lot of things that I didn't

514
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Speaker 1: agree with. Yes. So you can only provide your guidance.

515
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: But if people are going off the rails, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester spoke about how Adams, Paul and her used

517
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Speaker 1: to send bots out. So you can give people advice,

518
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: but you can't control what they actually do. You also

519
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: to remember he's in a very sticky situation. If you're

520
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: working with a client and they come to you and

521
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: they need crisis management, you have got to provide them

522
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Speaker 1: with that service. Even if you don't necessarily agree with

523
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Speaker 1: what they've done or what they're doing, you have to

524
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Speaker 1: provide that professional guidance to them. I mean, he's also

525
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Speaker 1: in this very deep because he has a business with

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Speaker 1: Anna Paul. So it's not like he can go, oh, look,

527
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Speaker 1: I don't want to represent you anymore. When it was

528
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: announced that he was going into business with Anna pol

529
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: everyone thought that this was an absolute stroke of genius.

530
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Speaker 1: I mean I did. She was the most popular and

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Speaker 1: well loved Australian influence. He's not to know what's going

532
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. Yeah. Anyway, back to Anna Paul,

533
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Speaker 1: because she's back on TikTok now, she's blogging like nothing

534
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: has happened. She's been all over Snapchat. It took me

535
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: so long to get through all of her Snapchat stories

536
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: from Coachella. It's interesting that she feels more comfortable on

537
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Speaker 1: Snapchat than TikTok because she only bought the TikTok video

538
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Speaker 1: out on Tuesday. Is that because there's no comment section?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I also think that Snapchat is a big earner for

541
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Speaker 1: these influences and they have to keep up with the

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Speaker 1: hours in order to monetize it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Anna has also been spotted on Rodeo Drive in Los

545
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Speaker 1: Angeles with nothing other than Harry Jowsey. I have to

546
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: put it out there. I am not a fan of

547
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Speaker 1: that guy. Oh. I couldn't stand him on Too Hot

548
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: to Handle. He has a podcast, so people are predicting

549
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: that maybe she is going to pop up on his

550
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: podcast giving her side of the story. I don't know

551
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Speaker 1: if that's the best format. Oh my god. Imagine if

552
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: she was on Caller Daddy Now, that would be genius.

553
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: That would be a real game changer. I think having

554
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Speaker 1: the support of Alex Cooper. I don't think Alex Cooper

555
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: would get on board for it. But I definitely don't

556
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Speaker 1: think appearing on Harry Jowsey's podcast is going to be

557
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: great for everything going on. I don't think everyone's going

558
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Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, I totally see her

559
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: side of things. Yeah, I think it's just gonna make

560
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Speaker 1: things worse. Anna did give a little bit of an

561
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Speaker 1: insight on snapchat about how she was feeling. This is

562
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Speaker 1: what she said.

563
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 5: I bought myself.

564
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Speaker 1: Earring's closer, and I was like, I was in bed.

565
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Speaker 2: Till three PERI just sad the evils Po journaling ship.

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Speaker 5: You know what, I have to leave the.

567
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Speaker 3: House and I wrote down my nose just then leave

568
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Speaker 3: in the house.

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Speaker 5: Of the answer.

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Speaker 1: That's it ever sad like even the fact that you.

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Speaker 4: Will be to work like that, like heals you like

572
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: going outside?

573
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 5: Actually heals you.

574
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Speaker 2: So does every day where you're rotting a bed and

575
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Speaker 2: you're sad, you have the because every day where you're

576
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Speaker 2: running a bed, you have to go outside.

577
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: And it will really you already know that, but that's

578
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: just facts. I just really got proved to me again.

579
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: I suppose this is at least her sort of half

580
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: acknowledging what's going on. But she's kind of just making

581
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: herself the victim, isn't she. It's like, yeah, I feel

582
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: sad so and it's also like, oh, look at me,

583
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: I'm such a fantastic friend. This is something that I

584
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: sent to another friend who's struggling, and yeah, it's kind

585
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: of I don't like the way that she tells everyone

586
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: what they should be doing or how they should be

587
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: reacting to things, like yeah, you've got to I think

588
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: she's got a rebrand now. I mean we saw Adams

589
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: have success with rebranding. Maybe she needs to rebrand. Yeah,

590
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: I think the good girl actor's gone now. Maybe just

591
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: come out and just be like, yeah, I'm not a

592
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Speaker 1: great person. Here's me on holiday, Like, yeah, this is

593
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: me being rich. You know, some people like that. So

594
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: she could go back to what Adam originally was. Now,

595
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: so VI, you did touch upon that we are not fashionists,

596
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Speaker 1: and I am not saying oh hey, I did not

597
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Speaker 1: say I was not a fashionist, that I couldn't comment

598
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: on jen Z fashion because some of it is so

599
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: ridiculous and I'm not in that age bracket to be

600
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: across at all. Yeah. Well again, I have just been

601
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: wearing active wear for the last year. So again I'm

602
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: not someone to criticize people's looks. But we're going to

603
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: talk about the fashion. Yeah, because in the last couple

604
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: of years it has been a bit cringe to make

605
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: a big effort. At Coachella, we saw celebrities and influencers

606
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: opting for more comfortable festival looks think denim and leather,

607
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: and the general vibe was that it was low level

608
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: attention seeking influencers wearing crazy outfits, and I think it

609
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: was really a way for celebrities to distinguish themselves from influences. Yeah,

610
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: it was sort of that way of being like, look,

611
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm above all of this shit. I'm actually paid for

612
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: my own ticket. I'm I'm not actually having to do

613
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: any brand deals or film any content. Yeah, and I

614
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: think in twenty twenty five, it's flipped back to the

615
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: outrageous outfits that we came to expect from Coachella and

616
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Speaker 1: a lot of people on over the celebrities are still

617
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: doing low key, but they weren't when they were attending

618
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Speaker 1: the events. We saw Kylie jenerin this absolutely stunning yellow

619
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Speaker 1: dresser had a plunging neckline. Paris Hilton was really getting

620
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: into the outrageous fashion as well. I think what celebrities

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Speaker 1: wore really depended on what capacity they were at the

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Speaker 1: festival in h For Kylie, she was appearing at a

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Speaker 1: brand event, so she had to make an effort. She

624
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: probably had a designer who made that dress for her. Well,

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00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure she did. I mean she did rock up

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Speaker 1: in white jeans and a crop top later on, just

627
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: to enjoy one person's fashion. That I really enjoyed. Following

628
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: along at home was Alex Earl. So she declared on

629
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: TikTok that boobs were back at Coachella, and she wasn't wrong.

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Speaker 1: When have they not been in though? To be fair, now,

631
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: on day two of the festival, she wore a brass

632
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: style top embellished with silver coins and ultra mini leather shorts,

633
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Speaker 1: and she accessorized the look with one of those y

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Speaker 1: two k leather belts that made me feel very old,

635
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: and knee high leather boots. Here's what she said about

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Speaker 1: her outfit. And this is our refstal lot. But for

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Speaker 1: de two Coachella, I love it. I told you guys,

638
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: we were bringing back the boobs. This here, we're gone.

639
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: Last year they went away. We're going to bring theirs

640
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: and we're ready to get Brady. She's already bought the

641
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: skinny jeans back. Now she's bringing the boobs back. This

642
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: works well for me because I've actually got some boobs

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Speaker 1: at the moment since being pregnant. I don't think I'll

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Speaker 1: be getting them out though. I don't think anyone wants

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Speaker 1: to see that. By next Coachella they'll be gone. If

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Speaker 1: you're anything like me. Now, for those who haven't seen

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Speaker 1: all of Alex's Coachella look. She's really been channeling an

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Speaker 1: early two thousands Christina Aguilera in the Dirty era, and

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Speaker 1: her looks have been very y to Kate, do you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm really disturbed about a couple of these

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Speaker 1: mid twenties influencers who I follow are starting to wear

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Speaker 1: the twenty twelve big chunky necklaces again. Saw Saffron Barker

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Speaker 1: wearing one a Nerve log and I was like, fuck,

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Speaker 1: I've just thrown them all out. I just can't get

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Speaker 1: behind it again. I think that's the rule. If you've

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Speaker 1: done it once, you can't do it again. I'm all

657
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Speaker 1: into the dainty jewelry, and apparently there's these teddy Bear

658
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Speaker 1: key that everyone's wearing on their handbags as well, and

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Speaker 1: people are putting bandana. This is just this isn't even Coachella.

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Speaker 1: This is just general day to day fashion. Oh it's

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Speaker 1: freaking me out. It's making me feel really old because

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Speaker 1: we've won it before. Now back to Alex Earl's look.

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Speaker 1: While the gen Zettas were loving her Day two look,

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Speaker 1: there were mixed reviews when it came to her Day

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Speaker 1: three outfits. So while putting the look together for TikTok,

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Speaker 1: Alex admitted that she was exhausted and she wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: drinking because she had work commitments the next day. She

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Speaker 1: then started off by saying it would be a more

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Speaker 1: casual look, but then proceeded to put on this vintage

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Speaker 1: Dultchi and Kabana v neckt graphic T shirt that had

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Speaker 1: cheetera print on the back. She then added a Cheeta

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Speaker 1: print G string with this ultra mini hot pink ruffle

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Speaker 1: shorts that went down in a v at the back

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Speaker 1: so you could see her g string. She then finished

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Speaker 1: the look off again with knee high boots that were

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Speaker 1: really fluffy and a white leather y two K belt.

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Speaker 1: She lost me at the Cheetah d string. I mean,

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Speaker 1: not the most comfortable thing to be getting around and

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Speaker 1: all day festival in yeah. I mean it made more

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Speaker 1: sense at M davies Hen's party, but for Coachella, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I could just imagine being at a festival

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Speaker 1: and someone coming up and yanking it. I mean, absolutely

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Speaker 1: no shame for wearing it that. I'm sure it looked great,

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Speaker 1: but it was because she prefaced by saying that she's

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Speaker 1: going to be wearing something more comfortable that day. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of mixed reviews. One comment under

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Speaker 1: Alex's video appeared to resonate with a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: The comment said, this is what I look like when

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Speaker 1: I'm cleaning out my closet and start trying on random

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Speaker 1: things I forgot I had now. That comment got over

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Speaker 1: forty three thousand likes. Another popular comment with thirty two

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Speaker 1: thousand likes was am I the only one that's not

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Speaker 1: getting it? My favorite comment overall, though, was it's giving

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Speaker 1: Kathy Kim for my Aussies, which was liked over three

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Speaker 1: thousand times. Now it wasn't just Alex who brought the

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Speaker 1: boobs back to Coachella, so for Daufert stole the show

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Speaker 1: for the Aussies wearing a crochet bra top, fluffy skirt,

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Speaker 1: and knee high boots today too. People said she look

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Speaker 1: like a bit of a cave woman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Someone said it's giving flintstones, which made me laugh. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people also compare it to Alex Earl's look.

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Speaker 1: I did take one for the team and watch Sofa

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Speaker 1: Dopahs one hour Coachella Locke and she spoke about how

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Speaker 1: she hadn't really put that much effort into her festival

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Speaker 1: looks and was shocked by everyone saying how good they were.

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Speaker 1: I think people also got behind Sofa Dophah's Coachella looks

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Speaker 1: because they feel sorry for her after she was recently

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Speaker 1: dragged into the Anna Paul drama. Mikayla Tester alleged that

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Speaker 1: Anna Paul would always comment about her close set eyes,

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Speaker 1: which she does not have. Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are wondering if they

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Speaker 1: ran into each other at the festival. Someone said would

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Speaker 1: pay a lot to see you walk past the scoff

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Speaker 1: at Anna Paul at Coachella this year. One thing I've

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Speaker 1: noticed recently on tiktokuse everyone's like she ate and I

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Speaker 1: was like, what fuck you are? Okay, people have been

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Speaker 1: saying that for so long. I like that you have

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Speaker 1: done well like that outfits amazing. I finally got what

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Speaker 1: it meant, but I was like, this is have you

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Speaker 1: never ever heard that that? I'm quite concerned. Look, I've

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Speaker 1: been in a baby bubble for about ten months. I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen this everywhere. No fuck, that's been going on

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Speaker 1: for about over a year.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it. One thing I did like though,

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Speaker 1: on TikTok was Britney Saunda's Coachell it look yet this

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Speaker 1: was absolutely iconic. So Brittany and her podcast host Alex

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Speaker 1: Hay they were dressed as Bunning's workers, so they had

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Speaker 1: their green aprons on the red shirts. And what I

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Speaker 1: loved is that literally no Americans would have got it, like,

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Speaker 1: it's only the Aussies who would have known what the

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Speaker 1: fuck they were on about. Yeah, it was so good again,

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Speaker 1: that would have been a comfortable outfit to get around

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Speaker 1: in all day. I also liked that they probably weren't

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Speaker 1: going to get really bad sunburn like the rest of them,

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Speaker 1: Like they actually had a T shirt on sun safety.

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Speaker 1: Now I do want to talk about Australian fashion brand

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Speaker 1: Pepper Mayo because their Coachella content isn't going to plan.

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Speaker 1: The Sydney fast fashion house sent a bunch of UK

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Speaker 1: influences to Palm Springs, including Love Islanders, Lucinda Stratford and

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Speaker 1: Sophie Piper, and it looks like no expense was spared

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Speaker 1: with the influencers living it up in this luxury villa.

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Speaker 1: They were also driving around in g wagons and boss

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Speaker 1: with the Pepper Mayo logo. Now, the brand has definitely

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Speaker 1: been making the most of the trip. They've been pumping

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Speaker 1: out the content with influencers wearing their clothes. However, people

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Speaker 1: aren't focusing on the clothes. Instead, the videos have been

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Speaker 1: flooded by angry customers questioning how Pepper Mayo can pay

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Speaker 1: for the extravagant trip for influencers while their customers are

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Speaker 1: still waiting on online orders. Yeah, it feels like a

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00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: bit of a White Fox situation. There's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of customers who are very unhappy their orders have not arrived.

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Speaker 1: One customer wrote, spends money on influences to go to Coachella,

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Speaker 1: but I can't get a refund for address I ordered

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Speaker 1: one and a half months ago and never received, whilst

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00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: another said, shocking company. They spend all of our money

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Speaker 1: paying influencers rather than paying the time slash resources on

759
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: our orders, while someone else said where are my dresses?

760
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: I have sent you over five emails with only ai response.

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00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Some customers have also accused the brand of deleting their complaints,

762
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: so a TikToker called Sarona shared a video with the

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Speaker 1: caption me getting ready to contact the police and then

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Speaker 1: in brackets current affair because Pepper Mayo keeps deleting comments

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Speaker 1: on Instagram for me and other girls asking what packages

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Speaker 1: are someone who has worked at Today Tonight, which is

767
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: basically a spin off of a Current Affair, contact them.

768
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: They literally have someone sitting by the phone waiting for

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Speaker 1: these types of stories and if you're willing to speak,

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Speaker 1: they will do a whole package on this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, Pepper Mayo did end up commenting on the video,

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Speaker 1: apologizing for the issue, saying that they would look into

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Speaker 1: it and to dm the directly, so they were obviously

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Speaker 1: worried then. I mean, there were so many comments and

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: they kept being like dm us directly, It's like, how

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00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: about you just fixed the issue. And it's not the

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00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: first time that Pepper Mayo has made headlines but not

779
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: fulfilling orders. A US customer went viral last year when

780
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Speaker 1: she shared an order receipt for address that never arrived.

781
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: It did end up that the brand wasn't actually at fault,

782
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: though a representative confirmed that the customer had been scammed

783
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Speaker 1: by a counterfeit website with the same name, except it

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Speaker 1: had a double R for Pepper. So are they trying

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Speaker 1: to play this off as the issue this time. Do

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Speaker 1: you think, well, I haven't seen them user as an excuse.

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Speaker 1: They just keep saying DM me directly. I do want

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00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: to end the Coachella rap with a positive. How good

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00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: was it to see Heidi Montag performing at Coachella and

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00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt absolutely hyping her up? Everyone has compared him

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00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: to the Mum and Mean Girls when she's filming their

792
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: Christmas performance because he was there with an old school

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00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: video camera, just absolutely going nuts. And the thing is,

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00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: I first saw this pop up on my TikTok feed,

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00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: of course, and it was zoomed in and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, is she on the main stage. But

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00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: it became apparent that this was at Coachella, but it

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00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: was at a brand event on them, but there weren't

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Speaker 1: really many people there, to be fair, though she was

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00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: singing live. She's probably one of the only artists that

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00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: was singing live That shocked me because for anyone who

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00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: has listened to her songs over the whole La Fires situation,

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00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: it's very techno, and I was actually surprised at how

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Speaker 1: good she sounded. Yeah, she did sound very good. I

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Speaker 1: loved the video that Spencer shared of her driving herself

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Speaker 1: to Coachella. She had her hair pin and she was

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Speaker 1: just singing along in the car to our own songs.

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Speaker 1: Well that's where we're going to leave things today. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to another episode of Outspoken. If you

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Speaker 1: public holiday coming up on Friday for Anzac Day, we

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Speaker 1: are actually going to be dropping part two of our

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Speaker 1: Deep Dive series into Sarah's Day. We've had a really

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Speaker 1: strong reaction to that episode. We have now made it

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Speaker 1: available for everyone to listen to. Yeah, we do hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed that episode. This podcast was recorded on the

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