Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Tennis au Revoir. Andy Murray and.
Speaker 2: Djokovic part ways before Paris Schwantek struggles iggas drought extends
Speaker 2: to a full year at home in Rome, Ken Plini
Speaker 2: and Sinner complete the hometown double. That's all ahead on
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Speaker 2: Stars Nick Kurios and Sam stows A, Simon Ray, so
Speaker 2: good to have you.
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure.
Speaker 5: Thanks to having me back on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to have you back end for the
Speaker 2: second week in a row. It's atp Alumni and current
Speaker 2: WTA coach Luke Savile.
Speaker 1: How was the weekend visit from the fam.
Speaker 5: Very good, very good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, from the country to the Big Smoke, and went
Speaker 6: to a couple of footy games and.
Speaker 5: Carlton got up so we knew because of the.
Speaker 3: Thought.
Speaker 6: We were pretty nervous for a while in that game,
Speaker 6: but got up there and then went to another one
Speaker 6: on Sunday.
Speaker 5: So nice relaxing weekend.
Speaker 3: Did you do anything else or just footy footy footy
Speaker 3: and then send them home.
Speaker 6: I played a bit of Pennant on Saturday, so so
Speaker 6: brought them out and brought the dog out. He's an
Speaker 6: absolute nightmare at the tennis. Yeah that sounds would When
Speaker 6: people walked in between him and me, they I guess
Speaker 6: he thought someone was attacking me and he had to
Speaker 6: protect me from the people. So it was a bit
Speaker 6: of a nightmare, but good fun gray Weather and he survived.
Speaker 3: Tofu was there to save you?
Speaker 5: He was?
Speaker 6: He was. You know, he's eight kilos seven eight kilos,
Speaker 6: so he's pretty intimidating.
Speaker 7: So he's a good guard dog. How are you striking
Speaker 7: these days on the court? How are you striking them?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Not too bad.
Speaker 6: Went out there and as you know, Simon, I'm pretty well.
Speaker 6: You know, when I was playing I was pretty professional
Speaker 6: and ticked all the boxes and on on Saturday so much.
Speaker 6: I rocked up five minutes before, rolled a few serves
Speaker 6: over and started. So it's a little bit of a
Speaker 6: change of scenery for relaxing into it. Good fun play
Speaker 6: for rows out there and great club.
Speaker 1: We've got a jam pack show to get through today.
Speaker 2: But before we get into what's court, You're right, we're
Speaker 2: going to look at some of the big updates from
Speaker 2: overnight in Rome, because some big things did happen overnight.
Speaker 2: So we had chin Wen defeated Arena Sebolenka.
Speaker 3: From a very high perch. She begins to fall perhaps,
Speaker 3: or is Sabileinka going to bounce back in and just
Speaker 3: keep being amazing.
Speaker 7: Well, I think Sabolinka's form has been nothing short of
Speaker 7: immaculate really over the well across the entire twenty twenty
Speaker 7: five seasons. So it was a win that Jing needed
Speaker 7: to have against Sabolenka, particularly given the head to head
Speaker 7: which has been absolutely one way traffic in Sabolenka's favor.
Speaker 7: So I don't think it at all hurts or hindus
Speaker 7: Sabolenka's preparation for rolling Garross. She's won a ton of
Speaker 7: matches lately. She's in as good a four month guess
Speaker 7: we've ever seen her, particularly going into the clay court slam,
Speaker 7: so it doesn't hurt her and just gives chinwin Jing
Speaker 7: that little bit of a boost coming into Rolling Garross
Speaker 7: next week or the week after for the main draw players.
Speaker 3: And she was getting some tips from the crowd and
Speaker 3: her response was to shut the up really yeah, told
Speaker 3: a fan just to pipe down in the front row,
Speaker 3: quit like that. Yeah, but because I love but the
Speaker 3: crowd is starting to change a little bit and sometimes
Speaker 3: but get into it, but then just enjoy the match.
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially in Rome.
Speaker 6: There's been a few occasions this year in that sortament
Speaker 6: where the crowd's getting a little lippy. Yeah, and I
Speaker 6: think even Alex demon I had to say a few
Speaker 6: words to the crowd. And there's one other matches but
Speaker 6: maybe Menziic. So yeah, it's a little a little I
Speaker 6: guess unfortunate that the crowd's sort of getting to that point.
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, the first final, well the first time.
Speaker 6: She hasn't been in a final since February, so, as
Speaker 6: Simon said, it just incredible runner form.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see Chin win again at Roland
Speaker 2: Garas because the last time she was a she won
Speaker 2: an Olympic gold medal.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, so her new favorite turf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2: We also saw a rematch from Madrid with Goth and
Speaker 2: Andreva and Gough defeating her again six four seven six.
Speaker 2: What heights will this rivalry reach? Coco is twenty one
Speaker 2: and Mirror's eighteen matches so far, Battle.
Speaker 6: Of the Babies all very young, Yeah, very exciting, and
Speaker 6: Goth leads that head to head four zero. Now, so yeah,
Speaker 6: she's got the three years on Mirror, which is quite
Speaker 6: substantial at that age twenty one to eighteen, but very
Speaker 6: exciting for the women's game tennis in general. Two amazing players,
Speaker 6: and Andreva I think she can win multiple slams and
Speaker 6: have an incredible career, same as Coco Gough.
Speaker 7: I think exciting is the right word when you think
Speaker 7: about these two. The first word that springs one for
Speaker 7: me is athletes. Physicality, you know, just incredible athletes both
Speaker 7: of these women, and I think they're going to be
Speaker 7: seeing as you touched on a lot more of each
Speaker 7: other over the next decade plus, because both of these
Speaker 7: women are going to be at the pointy end of
Speaker 7: whatever tournaments they enter for a long time to come.
Speaker 2: And then we saw Massetti defeated Zverev, which now sees
Speaker 2: Verev moving from his number two ranking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's got to hurt leading into a gasland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Akaraz is back in number two. Zverev has
Speaker 2: moved down to number three. But good match from Massetti
Speaker 2: seven six six y four against him.
Speaker 3: You'll switch through at the point he end of the tournament.
Speaker 3: Pretty exciting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mussetti's just playing incredible tennis right now. And I
Speaker 6: think someone said he is, you know, I can only
Speaker 6: sort of play on clay, but a lot of people
Speaker 6: don't realize he made the final Queens and Sammis of
Speaker 6: Wimbledon last year on the grass. So I think he's
Speaker 6: one of those players that can definitely push for that
Speaker 6: top four, top five because he can play on all surfaces.
Speaker 6: So definitely Clayzy's preferred surface, but he can play on
Speaker 6: all surfaces, and I think he's just coming into his own.
Speaker 6: He might be twenty three, twenty four years of age
Speaker 6: and amazing player. I'm very versatile and.
Speaker 3: All round back can perform. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And as is so often the case in these things.
Speaker 7: This is one where the head to head matchup plays
Speaker 7: a role, and it's three to one in Muzzetti's favor. So,
Speaker 7: for whatever reason, Muzzetti's game style seems to trouble vere
Speaker 7: If there's not many players that clearly was Vera's ranking
Speaker 7: and record being as good as what it is, there's
Speaker 7: not many players have a head to head edge over him,
Speaker 7: So this is a bit of a quirt that someone
Speaker 7: ranked where Muzetti is still an elite player would lead
Speaker 7: the head to head to that extent against Verev. Now,
Speaker 7: some of those have been on clay, but not all
Speaker 7: of them. He got them in Vienna at the back
Speaker 7: end of last year on indoor hard, and he's beaten
Speaker 7: them the last couple of times on clay, So three
Speaker 7: to one in Muzetti's favor. He likes coming up against
Speaker 7: Alexander Verev.
Speaker 2: Lastly, Ourcaaz defeated Jack Draper six four sixty four. Draper's
Speaker 2: looking very strong at what should be his least favorable surface,
Speaker 2: but he's obviously all eyes on him as we approach
Speaker 2: Wimbledon as well, because I think England's got all their hopes,
Speaker 2: prayers and dreams.
Speaker 3: On him, don't they? But they'll turn on him, they'll
Speaker 3: say he's Scottish or something like that, do with all
Speaker 3: their heroes. But Demon had a decent run, didn't he.
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah he Yeah, another fourth round for Demon and he
Speaker 6: has over a week to freshen up for the French Open,
Speaker 6: where as we know he made the quarters last year,
Speaker 6: so eyeing off another run there. And I think during
Speaker 6: the clay he went two fourth rounds and two quarter finals,
Speaker 6: so on his least favorite surface he's done very well
Speaker 6: and I think he's just sitting around that sort of
Speaker 6: ten mark right now. So I feel like if he
Speaker 6: can hold that top ten after the clay, going into
Speaker 6: the grass, his best surface, and then onto the hard
Speaker 6: court where he didn't play much last year because he
Speaker 6: had that hip injury from Wimbledon, so not many points
Speaker 6: to defend there. And I think, you know, he's been pushing.
Speaker 6: He's been as high as top seven and absolutely incredible
Speaker 6: the way he's just getting everything out of himself.
Speaker 3: Was it last year at Roland Garrison where there was
Speaker 3: like the mini Demon, the kid dressed up as him
Speaker 3: that you got to get him back anyway rematch? Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was super keen, so good. Yeah, Oh my God,
Speaker 3: that was so cute that we'll find him. If you're
Speaker 3: out there listening, you probably not speaking French. But get
Speaker 3: to tennis.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to what's caught your eye.
Speaker 3: Caught your eye.
Speaker 1: I was going to kick off.
Speaker 3: Sorry, it was my attempt to sting.
Speaker 1: I really liked it.
Speaker 2: I was going to kick off with mine first, just
Speaker 2: because I'm in the hosting chairs, I will be how
Speaker 2: we're going to focus to my own yep, No, but
Speaker 2: I wanted to discuss. Came out this week that Djokovic
Speaker 2: and Murray have parted ways. So they've been well, Murray's
Speaker 2: been his coach for the past six months. We saw
Speaker 2: them in action here at the Australian Open as well.
Speaker 2: They were expected to continue until at least Wimbledon, but
Speaker 2: he has made first round exits in four of his
Speaker 2: last five tournaments.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's I saw this news yesterday and I feel
Speaker 6: like there's probably been a disappointing stretch for Djokovic. I
Speaker 6: think we sort of can't ignore that he still made
Speaker 6: the semis of the Australian Open final of Miami, maybe
Speaker 6: a little bit injured in those matches, so obviously the
Speaker 6: Australian Open one where he pulled out. So we've just
Speaker 6: been so used to his lofty expectations winning at least
Speaker 6: two slams per year, so it hasn't been the partnership
Speaker 6: that we probably thought it could have been. Obviously they've
Speaker 6: potentially just sort of butted heads a little bit. Didn't
Speaker 6: work out the way they would have wanted and part
Speaker 6: of ways, but great to see. They both gave each
Speaker 6: other shout outs on Twitter and on their social medias.
Speaker 6: But it'll be interesting where Djokovic goes from here and
Speaker 6: sort of how much longer he plays for.
Speaker 3: Because I'm sure they're still mates, but it always felt
Speaker 3: strange to me, but were they ever mates? It's much
Speaker 3: I'm being a bit political here, but yeah, because it's
Speaker 3: sort of like your Novak Djokovic and you're Andy Murray.
Speaker 3: Why did Novak need Andy? Was it just for show? Like,
Speaker 3: look at me, I've got a coach and I'm not
Speaker 3: going to listen to him.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think it's for show. No.
Speaker 7: I think there's there's that element that there's always tricky
Speaker 7: to move beyond right or not an easy impediment to
Speaker 7: overcome in terms of you've been adversaries at the absolute
Speaker 7: guilt edge. He especially deep in Grand Slams, and it's
Speaker 7: easy to say that, I think a lot harder to
Speaker 7: do to put that that stuff, that baggage to one
Speaker 7: side and become united as a team on a high
Speaker 7: trust and psychological safety. And I think the best coach
Speaker 7: player relationships are those relationships where they're entirely open with
Speaker 7: each other. You know, I've got this level of honesty
Speaker 7: that's just unparalleled, and I wouldn't imagine it's easy to
Speaker 7: get to that. You overlay some of Novak's recent struggles
Speaker 7: against that, and looks done a great job of touching
Speaker 7: on some of those. Against such a lofty standard that
Speaker 7: we're accustomed to seeing from him. He's at a really,
Speaker 7: really tricky spot in his career.
Speaker 3: Not for the first time.
Speaker 7: We've seen him have, perhaps not to this extent, but
Speaker 7: we've seen him have some dips along the way, probably
Speaker 7: going back now I have to check my records, but
Speaker 7: six or seven years we saw him have a bit
Speaker 7: of a dip in his career there He's rebounded before
Speaker 7: this one looks like it's really serious or really grave
Speaker 7: again up against that lofty backdrop, and so I just
Speaker 7: got to feel like the tension would have been high
Speaker 7: in the camp. There wouldn't have been These wouldn't have
Speaker 7: been easy conversations or easy moments to navigate through. Let's
Speaker 7: alone coming from that background where they've been adversaries for
Speaker 7: the best part of twenty years. So I'd have to
Speaker 7: say it's probably not a huge surprise knowing some of
Speaker 7: the volatility that might have been at play here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it just was always weird to me
Speaker 3: that someone's being coached by someone who was always beaten
Speaker 3: by you. So no, not always, sorry always, but just
Speaker 3: speaking about Australian Open, like how many quarter semis and
Speaker 3: finals did they meet and Novak would defeat him and
Speaker 3: now he's meant to be taking advice.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I suppose, and look would be able to
Speaker 7: talk to this. I suppose, And I've got my own
Speaker 7: bias here. You know, sometimes if you're Novak, you're potentially
Speaker 7: the greatest player of all time. You can't be coached
Speaker 7: by anyone then.
Speaker 3: To that point, yes, Kings, So it's a complainer.
Speaker 5: It's got his record.
Speaker 3: Are you prepared to take advice or not?
Speaker 7: It's a little bit like sometimes with a coaching hat
Speaker 7: on you know, every parent wants the youngster to hit
Speaker 7: with a player better than them, but if you Novak,
Speaker 7: you'd never take the practice court everft That's exactly right,
Speaker 7: So Luke would have his own view on what makes
Speaker 7: a great player is not necessarily I don't think that
Speaker 7: the ingredients that will make a great coach.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I completely agree. I think he went to
Speaker 6: Andy to try and I guess have someone where he
Speaker 6: could relate to for those bigger matches. Andy had been
Speaker 6: at the point end of so many Slams, so many
Speaker 6: events where they played each other, and maybe Djokovic was
Speaker 6: sort of trying to get his insight into maybe what
Speaker 6: he saw from about Djokovic's game from an opponent standpoint,
Speaker 6: So you don't really know. But yeah, back to your point,
Speaker 6: someone you know, I think someone like Djokovic and a
Speaker 6: lot of these top ten players, especially like if they
Speaker 6: wanted someone to coach them who was better than them,
Speaker 6: there wouldn't be many around it, so many candidates.
Speaker 5: So yeah, interesting. I agree.
Speaker 6: It's a strange appointment when first happened, but not too
Speaker 6: surprised that that sort of come to an end.
Speaker 3: What was you just changed tennis? Then once you're the best,
Speaker 3: you just leave.
Speaker 1: Paddle or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, form question, who do you think wouldn't be
Speaker 2: his next coach? What's what's in the cards?
Speaker 1: Now? Where to from a coaching point of view?
Speaker 3: You've got the job.
Speaker 5: So guys, I'm leaving a few days. We're starting a
Speaker 5: trial with the French I got. I got a call
Speaker 5: from an unknown number, which I usually don't take last night.
Speaker 3: Did you pay that debt back? Or is that a
Speaker 3: different way front?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've probably got some span on my phone. You know.
Speaker 6: He part of ways with his long term coach, Marion
Speaker 6: Vider a couple of years back, and who knows, maybe
Speaker 6: he goes back there. But you know, I feel like
Speaker 6: someone you know, I guess for the tail end of
Speaker 6: his of his career right now, and someone who maybe
Speaker 6: he can relate to, maybe enjoy it with. Potentially wasn't
Speaker 6: much much enjoyment with with Murray there, so maybe even
Speaker 6: like a relation, possibly even one of his brothers. I'm
Speaker 6: not sure, but yeah, it's an interest. Do you think
Speaker 6: he's got another slam in him some?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think it's interesting, Luke, because my mind went to
Speaker 7: the same place. Is it back to a Marion Bider
Speaker 7: or a Gore, An Ivanissovitch, those people that have been
Speaker 7: key ingredients in this corner for so long, and perhaps
Speaker 7: that stability and solidarity right now is what's sorely needed.
Speaker 7: If you're inside the Jokovic camp, I'm not going to
Speaker 7: say no. Yeah, I've got to think come Wimbledon and
Speaker 7: come to the US Open. I think it's unlikely to
Speaker 7: be at Roland Garross and come to the Australian Open again.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to say no because I'm just not
Speaker 7: silly enough. I hope to write off what, in my
Speaker 7: mind is the greatest player of all time. So I
Speaker 7: need more evidence. We've had a little bit of evidence recently,
Speaker 7: but I need more evidence before I can definitively sit
Speaker 7: here and say no.
Speaker 5: I don't think so the time's up.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with Djokovic in the coming weeks
Speaker 2: as we get to rollin GARRA's But Simon, we're going
Speaker 2: to stay on you.
Speaker 1: What caught your eye this week?
Speaker 7: I wanted to talk a little bit about Peyton Sterns
Speaker 7: and we've seen her with some remarkable back to back
Speaker 7: to back victories this week in Rome, but even coming
Speaker 7: back a little bit further beyond that, this has been
Speaker 7: an interesting story of resilience and maybe humor in the
Speaker 7: face of some adversity, and she's maybe handled some things
Speaker 7: a little bit differently than we might have become accustomed
Speaker 7: to most of these players handling them in the circumstances.
Speaker 7: But I think she's been true to herself, right, So
Speaker 7: what I mean by that. In early April, she loses
Speaker 7: her coach, Tom Hill, who is the previous coach of
Speaker 7: Maria Sachary worked with Peyton Sterns for the best part
Speaker 7: of a year. They started in the clay court swing
Speaker 7: twelve months ago. Tom said, Peyton, thanks, but no thanks,
Speaker 7: I'm going back to the camp of Sachary. Early April
Speaker 7: leaves Peyton Sterns. And this is not an off season thing.
Speaker 7: Remember this is now a month out from Roland Garross
Speaker 7: Winwood's right around the court. This is in the midst
Speaker 7: of the season.
Speaker 5: It's not good timing, doesn't get much, doesn't get much
Speaker 5: worse time.
Speaker 7: And I think Peyton Stern's, to her credit, kind of
Speaker 7: handled it with a degree of humor that I quite liked.
Speaker 7: Unique and we don't often see it. Went on social
Speaker 7: media and said, well, applications now open, dm me. You know,
Speaker 7: I'm looking for a coach, and I think has since
Speaker 7: landed on BLAZKAVC and I think she posted again applications
Speaker 7: now closed.
Speaker 3: And they started again.
Speaker 7: Come on, yeah, they started. We don't often see it.
Speaker 7: They started in Madrid she did really well. She defeated
Speaker 7: our own Australian Kimberrell. There she been Amanda in a
Speaker 7: Simova Massarova, who's a good player, lost to sabal Anca.
Speaker 7: And then in Rome she's gone up a gear again.
Speaker 7: So she's defeated klan Skyer, she's defeated Keys seven six
Speaker 7: in the third, she's defeated Osaka seven six and the third,
Speaker 7: and she's defeated Alina's for Delena if you don't mind,
Speaker 7: seven six and the third. So it's been the most
Speaker 7: remarkable run you.
Speaker 1: Need but to get a lottery ticket with those numbers.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So clearly, you know, despite all of that upheaval
Speaker 7: and adversity and change in her camp over the last
Speaker 7: month or two, she's playing some of the best tennis
Speaker 7: of her life. So I took my cap to her
Speaker 7: in that regard, and it's easy to understand why. Even
Speaker 7: though I mentioned how difficult. Perhaps that that backdrop is
Speaker 7: her game is so well suited to the courts and
Speaker 7: to the red clay in particular. She's someone that is
Speaker 7: fourhand dominant in her game and she smacks the ball.
Speaker 7: She doesn't hold back. So in terms of what we
Speaker 7: come to expect in the women's game, top the top
Speaker 7: ten players in the world average one hundred and eight
Speaker 7: en kilometers an hour on their forehand and twenty four
Speaker 7: hundred ReBs. That's speed and spin. What does she do?
Speaker 3: What does she do?
Speaker 7: Peyton STN's on fourhand side, she's averaging one hundred and
Speaker 7: twenty three, so five kilometers an hour more than the
Speaker 7: top ten, and she's averaging way up at twenty six
Speaker 7: hundred ReBs on the ball on four hand side. So
Speaker 7: the these are these are elite numbers and Luke will
Speaker 7: be able to talk to. And it's not just on
Speaker 7: fourhand side. She actually exceeds the average as well on
Speaker 7: backhand side from speed and spin, so that ball's coming
Speaker 7: at you in a hurry and it's jumping and exploding
Speaker 7: at you on the red clay, she's got a kicksurve
Speaker 7: to go with it. And the other thing is from
Speaker 7: a tactical perspective, She's someone that one of the tactical
Speaker 7: measures we measure here on our dashboards. Luke Ha talked
Speaker 7: to us, how often are you looking for your forehand
Speaker 7: out of your backhand corner? If you're someone liked Neil Medvedev,
Speaker 7: you're not really looking for that play. You're happy to
Speaker 7: trust your backhand. If you're someone like Peyton Stens, forty
Speaker 7: percent of your fehands are out of your backhand corner.
Speaker 7: That means she's hungry to find her forehand at all,
Speaker 7: every every and any available opportunity. That the number there,
Speaker 7: that what's par is twenty percent. So she doubles that
Speaker 7: she's desperate to hit her forehand and when she finds
Speaker 7: it she can do something.
Speaker 3: She must be quick on her feet to get there.
Speaker 7: That's exactly right, And that's a really good, amazing to
Speaker 7: make zave Is. It's one thing to want to play
Speaker 7: like that. It's another thing entirely to be able to
Speaker 7: physically commit to that and employment that game.
Speaker 6: Stop, well, said Simon, and I think, yeah, the slower
Speaker 6: courts allow her to actually get around and use her
Speaker 6: feed to hit those foehands. Because Dasha actually played her
Speaker 6: at Wimbledon last year and she beat her, and I
Speaker 6: thought it was a pretty good match up on the
Speaker 6: grass because we're actually able to get it into the
Speaker 6: back end and the speed of the surface you're you know,
Speaker 6: I guess you're just able to do that and then
Speaker 6: also get her into her forehand corner, because that's Simon saying,
Speaker 6: she's sort of camping in that backhand corner quite a bit.
Speaker 6: So it's very interesting. She's playing great on the clay.
Speaker 6: I think she moves very well as well. I think
Speaker 6: we sort of underestimate the power of college tennis as well.
Speaker 6: She came through college and just played so many matches.
Speaker 6: You learn to compete at college, and I think she's
Speaker 6: done that. And yeah, she plays a lot of three setters,
Speaker 6: as you're alluded to, and I think she's a real
Speaker 6: chance for the French Open as well. And great to
Speaker 6: see that sort of story of resilience and you lose
Speaker 6: your coach and in the middle of the season and
Speaker 6: you come and you're in the semis and you've got
Speaker 6: a crack at PALLLLINI so very good.
Speaker 1: Can ask what do you think, both of you? How's
Speaker 1: she going to go against Paullini?
Speaker 7: Well, they've not played before, but who's Yeah, she can't
Speaker 7: continue to ride the crest of the wave, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think the key is when you've got this type
Speaker 7: of momentum, it's hard to get so when you're running
Speaker 7: hot like this against the backdrop of tumult and uphevil
Speaker 7: and she'll be desperate to keep this going. She's got
Speaker 7: conditions that suit the courts in Rome in particular are
Speaker 7: generally pretty lively, which exacerbates the effect of that spin
Speaker 7: on her forehand side and particular, and a kick serve,
Speaker 7: so she's going to be a handful. And then she's
Speaker 7: up against the hometown girl. So probably a fifty to
Speaker 7: fifty matchup for me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, probably is a question of what she's got left
Speaker 6: in the tank. Yeah, I think there's a few of
Speaker 6: those six in the thirds as well, So Paulini playing
Speaker 6: at home there'll be some nerves there as well, but
Speaker 6: obviously the home crowd advantage as well. So very intriguing
Speaker 6: that match. I don't know, it's probably genuine fifty to
Speaker 6: fifty and depends a little bit on Sterns how she's feeling,
Speaker 6: but probably give the edge to Paulini there who French
Speaker 6: Open Final last year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, final of.
Speaker 6: Wimbledon as well, beat Dasha first round of the French
Speaker 6: and thought it wasn't a great performance from Dasher, and
Speaker 6: then two weeks later in the.
Speaker 5: Final so and then the final of the Wimbledon as well.
Speaker 6: So great story of resilience actually for Paulini as well.
Speaker 6: She's a little older and sort of.
Speaker 1: Hanging around now twenty nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's really just the last couple of
Speaker 6: years where she's really broken through, so you know, very small,
Speaker 6: so she's got to work super hard. It's a great
Speaker 6: sort of I guess example for Dasher as well, who's
Speaker 6: not the biggest and you've just got to be there
Speaker 6: every point, point in, point out and really compete.
Speaker 5: So yeah, good match there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's not stop you on your role. What's
Speaker 1: caught your eye, Luke, So.
Speaker 6: I wanted to talk about the withdrawals and lucky losers
Speaker 6: in Rome this week, and we've got nine in total,
Speaker 6: four lucky losers on the men's side and five and
Speaker 6: the women's and outside of those as well, there are
Speaker 6: four more pullouts on the women's side where they weren't
Speaker 6: lucky losers but they were within the tournament and three
Speaker 6: more on the men's including hum Bear, Breeze Boy, Tomo
Speaker 6: and Matteo Barattini so and then on the women's side,
Speaker 6: Badosa Siegerman who beat Dasha in qualities, Gavid of a
Speaker 6: benchit Folinets And I'm not sure what you think, Simon,
Speaker 6: but I've been saying it for a while and just
Speaker 6: the the schedule. The season is so long, it's so physical.
Speaker 6: The game is becoming more and more physical as well, well,
Speaker 6: only in May, and we're seeing that amount of pullouts
Speaker 6: and lucky losers. And I think these two week events
Speaker 6: as well, they're super long and you're just hanging around
Speaker 6: the courts and I think, you know, we haven't even
Speaker 6: played our second Grand Slam of the year yet, and
Speaker 6: you know, I feel like a lot of the players
Speaker 6: are sort of laboring at the moment.
Speaker 5: So very interesting one.
Speaker 6: I feel like we need to sort of shorten the
Speaker 6: season possibly, but then again, we want the top players
Speaker 6: playing all these events, So it is a tricky one.
Speaker 6: Not sure what the answer exactly is, but I feel
Speaker 6: like something's got to sort of change that.
Speaker 3: There's a bit of a silver lining to it, not
Speaker 3: necessarily for those bigger names, but more for the younger
Speaker 3: players coming through, the lower ranked players, they get a chance.
Speaker 3: Like these lucky losers, they're lucky for a reason because
Speaker 3: they know that they've finally got an opportunity to put
Speaker 3: themselves on the world stage.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that's the great thing about a lucky loser.
Speaker 6: You get a second chance. And especially in these Masters
Speaker 6: series where there's buyers and lucky losers can go into
Speaker 6: that second round slot. So it definitely is very very
Speaker 6: lucky for those players. But I just think, yeah, look,
Speaker 6: we want the top players playing, but you've got Djokovic, Montfige, Goffen, Humbert,
Speaker 6: Bearattini pulling out. I'm not sure it's great for the
Speaker 6: game having those guys injured and playing injured. And the
Speaker 6: other thing with these Master series there's mandatories. So if
Speaker 6: you're sort of healthy, you have to play, otherwise theres fines.
Speaker 2: So can you explain that a bit, luke, because I
Speaker 2: know that, Like, so if you have like you're going
Speaker 2: to you have to play. You have to prove that
Speaker 2: you're not fit to play as well, Right, you can't
Speaker 2: our listeners, You're going to have it see the doctors.
Speaker 6: And even them, you've only got so many of those
Speaker 6: cards that you can only sat amount, and if you're
Speaker 6: healthy and don't play, it's obviously a big fine and
Speaker 6: you take a zero on your ranking. So I guess
Speaker 6: with people they don't know that you get eighteen slots
Speaker 6: for your points accountable to accountable tournaments throughout the year,
Speaker 6: So a zero on one of those if your top
Speaker 6: hundred is substantial because probably if your top twenty, that
Speaker 6: eighteenth slot could be a fifty pointer, so it's actually substantial,
Speaker 6: and that could be the difference of multiple ranking spots.
Speaker 5: So it is a tough one. I don't think there's
Speaker 5: too many.
Speaker 6: Other sports where there's an eleven month season, especially something
Speaker 6: as physical as tennis, so I think, and then I
Speaker 6: guess the other argument is if we shorten it, a
Speaker 6: lot of these top players playing exhibitions, and that really
Speaker 6: contradicts that.
Speaker 5: I completely get that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, you guys are meant to be resting.
Speaker 5: They might say it's less pressure, it's a job, but.
Speaker 1: Again, we all need money. Yeah, it's expensive.
Speaker 3: We get four weeks off a year in Australia. You
Speaker 3: know they get four weeks off. Granted I'm sitting in
Speaker 3: a chair talking into a microphone and not running a
Speaker 3: couple hundred k's on a court.
Speaker 5: But look, I couldn't it ree more.
Speaker 7: Something's got to give, And I think what we're seeing
Speaker 7: is like it is as the Grand Slams too, are
Speaker 7: becoming more and more attractive to the playing group, and
Speaker 7: this has been the case now or a trend for
Speaker 7: five plus years. We're seeing more and more priority placed
Speaker 7: on being absolutely healthy and cherry ripe for day one
Speaker 7: of the Slams, which means it's becoming increasingly difficult for
Speaker 7: the other events in the tennis ecosystem to continue to
Speaker 7: exist with against that backdrop, because everyone wants to be
Speaker 7: right for day one of Rolling Girls. So somebody's got
Speaker 7: to give. Luke couldn't agree with a lot more. We've
Speaker 7: got to revamp the tennis calendar. It's not a new problem,
Speaker 7: but as of yet we yet to find the solution.
Speaker 1: Luke, what would be the dream scenario you think for players?
Speaker 6: I would say dream scenario would be almost finishing a
Speaker 6: couple weeks after the US Open. And I was saying
Speaker 6: this argument to someone and then they counter men said, oh,
Speaker 6: what about Asia?
Speaker 5: What about Europe?
Speaker 6: I said, well, there's always going to be tournaments there,
Speaker 6: Like you're only saying that it's because that's what we
Speaker 6: know the point, and I said, look, it's unlucky. I
Speaker 6: love the tornments in Asia, but something has to give,
Speaker 6: as you've been saying. And I think two and a
Speaker 6: half months, three months off, it's not crazy like that's
Speaker 6: still a nine month season. Forty as we know is
Speaker 6: six months. I think, you know, I'll use Alex Demonar
Speaker 6: as an example because I'm close to that scenario. But
Speaker 6: he plays to early December almost every year, and he's
Speaker 6: because he's got Davis Cup and the end of your
Speaker 6: finals last years, the top eight finals, and he comes
Speaker 6: out to Australia on about the twentieth or twenty first
Speaker 6: of December. He might have one week off, one week
Speaker 6: pre season, and then you're starting again. And not only
Speaker 6: to say or to mention, he's got the pressures of
Speaker 6: all January, you know, being the top Australian, all the pressure.
Speaker 5: On him the Cup. Yeah, you see, and then he's
Speaker 5: got so much pressure on the poor guy.
Speaker 6: So you know when he spoke about he was a
Speaker 6: little bit fatigued after Dubai this year, before nim Wells,
Speaker 6: you can completely see why. So I would think if
Speaker 6: you finished it end of September, give the players a
Speaker 6: couple weeks off, three weeks off, and then they have
Speaker 6: you know, November December to train.
Speaker 2: Anyway, if anyone's listening out there on the tour, we've
Speaker 2: got some suggestions.
Speaker 3: Exactly get him chart little nap at the end of
Speaker 3: the year.
Speaker 1: Moving to you a yeah, well we're getting holy are we?
Speaker 3: Well a little bit but breaking news. The Pope, the
Speaker 3: earthly head of the Catholic Church, welcomed a sinner into
Speaker 3: the Vatican and sinner so he's living in sin with Yannick. Yeah,
Speaker 3: two Italians just having a chat. Of course, you know
Speaker 3: pictures up here and you can probably hear it on
Speaker 3: the pod. But yeah, Leo the fourteenth, the newly minted Pope,
Speaker 3: welcome the newly minted back on the field, Yannick Sinner.
Speaker 3: They swapped rackets, they had a chat. The first American Pope, Leo,
Speaker 3: first American Pope. Big tennis fan. He's a bit of
Speaker 3: an amateur player. There's actually a secret tennis court at
Speaker 3: the Vatican.
Speaker 1: I'm so into that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what surface is that?
Speaker 3: Holy water? And it's frozen so it's the first ice.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think it was, do you know,
Speaker 2: Andy Clay, I feel like it was no the court
Speaker 2: he played on hard court.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. We'll check that, we'll come.
Speaker 6: Back to you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's been he's been a very keen tennis player,
Speaker 3: and so's so's Yanick. He's quite keen at the tennis.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, we reckon Yannick was there to
Speaker 3: kind of confess a few things or.
Speaker 6: Was a lengthy handshake, That's all I know. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: was waiting for one to let go and and questioning
Speaker 6: that grip that the pope was that wasn't no content
Speaker 6: and a little bit a little bit high up on
Speaker 6: the grip.
Speaker 3: So well, Leo, if you need some tips, hit up.
Speaker 5: Look, I'm looking to fill in a few weeks, so
Speaker 5: fly me in.
Speaker 1: He's actually cook quite an American accent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you forget about it. Literally walking here from Chicago.
Speaker 6: You guys see that video of Yanni going to serve
Speaker 6: when he was practicing, then he saw the Jets coming,
Speaker 6: he did he was going to throw the ball toss up,
Speaker 6: and then he saw the Jets with the colors with
Speaker 6: the that's cool going over and had a bit of
Speaker 6: a look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'll put that in the show notes, that's cool.
Speaker 1: It was really cool.
Speaker 3: That's what caught my eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: I made a little bit left to centerp but it's
Speaker 3: still sort of tennis related.
Speaker 1: It's really good done cool.
Speaker 2: We've got a couple other storylines from Rome. We have
Speaker 2: touched on Paolini quite a bit, but she's going strong.
Speaker 2: Could Paolini and Sinner win the men's and women's singles title?
Speaker 1: What do we think? Are we going to have an
Speaker 1: Italian off again?
Speaker 3: Like the fans have any to say about it? Yes,
Speaker 3: Hope has blessed it potentially, but what about in reality?
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: I definitely think she's a chance and obviously plays so
Speaker 6: well on the on the clay Paolini and handling the
Speaker 6: home pressure quite well. And there are a couple other
Speaker 6: results in the men's that caught my eye and two
Speaker 6: guys that I think are a good sort of outside
Speaker 6: chances for the French Open, Ben Shelton losing six two
Speaker 6: six one first round, so I thought that was a
Speaker 6: bit of a surprise.
Speaker 5: And for Keena.
Speaker 6: Davidovich, who's been playing well as well. He's given Alex
Speaker 6: demon Are a few troubles. I think maybe beat him
Speaker 6: a few weeks ago. Also going down two and two.
Speaker 6: So a couple of surprising ones that caught my eye there.
Speaker 6: And it was their first round, but a second round
Speaker 6: because they had to buy Archie. So yeah, I feel
Speaker 6: like two guys who will both be seated at the
Speaker 6: French Open going down pretty convincingly there.
Speaker 5: I thought that was a little bit of a shock upset.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we've spoken about the Paulini Sterns matchup being
Speaker 7: in my mind fifty to fifty and looks perhaps given
Speaker 7: the slight edge to Paulini there was good reason. So
Speaker 7: absolutely every chance she can find herself playing for the title.
Speaker 7: And as for Sinner, he comes up against Casperude. We
Speaker 7: know Rude's best surface by far, I think as the
Speaker 7: red clay. He's had his best results across his career
Speaker 7: on the surface, so that'll be a test for you.
Speaker 7: He owns the head to head there three to nothing,
Speaker 7: but this is the first time they'll meet on clay,
Speaker 7: so this will be a proper test for him in
Speaker 7: his first tournament back.
Speaker 2: The other one I ordered to call out massive friend.
Speaker 2: With the pod end of the Tom Marta and Alan Pez,
Speaker 2: they're into the women's double quarterfinals in Rome. Storm's only
Speaker 2: been back a couple of months after an achilles tear,
Speaker 2: and I just can't believe how well they are doing,
Speaker 2: and really hope that they make Nickney's steel.
Speaker 3: Now, no one's going to bust that one.
Speaker 1: But how good would it feel for Storm to be?
Speaker 1: You know, when did she go back Indian Wells Miami
Speaker 1: she started playing again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she started off playing doubles there and then just
Speaker 6: before just speaking to the Hunter camp and it felt
Speaker 6: like they just wanted to ease her back in with
Speaker 6: some doubles and then on the clay where it's possibly
Speaker 6: a little bit easier on the body, starting to play
Speaker 6: some singles. So yeah, she struggled a little bit in
Speaker 6: her first few singles matches. Struggles maybe a bit harsh,
Speaker 6: she's gone down, but you know, after a year out
Speaker 6: of the sport and then coming back at the highest
Speaker 6: level of singles is very difficult. So I think she's
Speaker 6: finding her feet there in the singles and the great
Speaker 6: to see winning some doubles matches with Ellen Perez And
Speaker 6: I think, as Simon would also say, I feel like
Speaker 6: even when you're first coming back, wins in doubles is
Speaker 6: very very beneficial, just to get that confidence just get
Speaker 6: that winning feeling back and then you can sort of
Speaker 6: start the transition onto the singles court and then onto
Speaker 6: the grass, which she'll play great on.
Speaker 2: And they're due to play with other partners at Rolling
Speaker 2: and garret Us the Hunter's playing with Dollar Hyde and
Speaker 2: Perez is playing with Milli car Markets.
Speaker 1: Do I say that right? Oh my god, I'm getting
Speaker 1: better guys.
Speaker 2: And the other thing I wanted to call out is
Speaker 2: with Roland Garras around the corner, we have well, the
Speaker 2: French have announced the wild cards and excitingly Tristan's school
Speaker 2: Kate here from Australia and Destiny Aeva.
Speaker 1: Is two of those people from Ossie that will be going.
Speaker 3: So what's that process like? Like we publiclyven know what
Speaker 3: a wild card means and people get it, but when
Speaker 3: you hear about it, it must be crazy to like
Speaker 3: cire Us, I'm in and you didn't think you were
Speaker 3: going to be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well so they can probably speak to that better
Speaker 7: than I can. In terms of the process. You know,
Speaker 7: behind the scenes here that's the leadership team and from
Speaker 7: a player dev or a performance perspective here at tennis
Speaker 7: Australia would get together under Tim Jolly's leadership as the
Speaker 7: director of strategy and performance, and really these decisions are
Speaker 7: are nuanced, and they're in the margins and they're not
Speaker 7: easy to make that team Tim Paul Kildery. Typically the
Speaker 7: Davis and Billy Jinking Cup captains and the leadership teams
Speaker 7: get together and make those decisions. And as far as
Speaker 7: being on the receiving end of it, good, bad or ugly,
Speaker 7: Luke can probably explain the whole gamut of emotions there.
Speaker 3: At times good, you're not bad, a little bit ugly,
Speaker 3: but you'll be right.
Speaker 6: No, I've been through the roller coaster. I think, looking
Speaker 6: back on it, a wild card is you know, it's
Speaker 6: a privilege. It's it's one of those things where it's
Speaker 6: out of your control. It's you know, if you're not
Speaker 6: in the tournament on your ranking, you kind of don't
Speaker 6: deserve to be in the tournament. So if you get it,
Speaker 6: it's an absolute sort of blessing. You're lucky. So you
Speaker 6: can't read too much into it and think about a
Speaker 6: wild card. It can go to sort of anyone, and
Speaker 6: there's I guess there's sort of criterias. You can give
Speaker 6: it to older players that have maybe been top hundred
Speaker 6: and done a few more things in the sport on
Speaker 6: their way.
Speaker 3: Back and.
Speaker 1: And venus yeld card place.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, I think more importantly it's to
Speaker 6: those up and car up and coming players who need
Speaker 6: the opportunities, need the experiences. You know, they maybe knock
Speaker 6: on the door of the top hundred, and experiences like
Speaker 6: this will help them go to the next level.
Speaker 3: Pardon my ignorance. Has there been a wild Card Grand
Speaker 3: Slam champion?
Speaker 5: Yes? And it was.
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 5: Was it played? Raft raft?
Speaker 3: Donald pretty good said?
Speaker 2: Not bad?
Speaker 5: Well up there at the start.
Speaker 1: You actually.
Speaker 3: He's just smart, he is.
Speaker 5: It just was brilliant.
Speaker 3: Now Destiny was actually on our Sister show what she
Speaker 3: was she was.
Speaker 1: On the sit down? Should we take a look?
Speaker 7: Great?
Speaker 3: What's it like playing the very cream of the crop
Speaker 3: in the game, And what's it like when you reflect
Speaker 3: on that you beat Sabolenka, who's now the world's dominant player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still think about, you know, watching all the
Speaker 4: girls up there that I've played and known how well
Speaker 4: I've done, even against Rebeccna. I feel like when I
Speaker 4: play those quality players, I actually play better. So it's
Speaker 4: just a matter of getting there myself. Actually inside the
Speaker 4: top one hundred and being able to perform day and
Speaker 4: day out against those girls and actually play other quality players.
Speaker 4: So I can, you know, just keep testing my ability
Speaker 4: and yeah, and knowing that I do play well against
Speaker 4: those girls.
Speaker 7: It.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's one of the things that keeps
Speaker 4: me going because I see them, you know, playing the
Speaker 4: big tournaments that I want to play every single week,
Speaker 4: So you know, I think, yeah, that's definitely motivating for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back. We are spoiled to have experts like
Speaker 2: Simon Ray on the show today. So we're launching a
Speaker 2: new segment which means you're going to have to come
Speaker 2: back often.
Speaker 1: And what's it called?
Speaker 2: Say?
Speaker 3: Simon says, but thank you for their thanks for help.
Speaker 3: They're producer boys. Lovely day. So Simon, what do you say, now,
Speaker 3: I won't do that bit you go back to do it? Simon,
Speaker 3: what do you say?
Speaker 1: Sound like a frog?
Speaker 3: And he looks like a frog.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not wearing what I say against that backdrop
Speaker 5: or that introduction, but what I'm what I'm thinking?
Speaker 3: He said, goodbye.
Speaker 7: The team asked me to articulate where we think Egishwontech's
Speaker 7: sitting with rolling Garros right around the corner, and where
Speaker 7: I think she's sitting is if I'm in the camp there,
Speaker 7: I'm emphasizing that you are the envy of every other
Speaker 7: player when you walk into the gates and Rolling Garriss
Speaker 7: a week from now. You're a four time Rolling Garrols champion,
Speaker 7: you're a five time major winner. You've had some hiccups
Speaker 7: that were unaccustomed to seeing from you on your clay
Speaker 7: court campaign in twenty twenty five. But do you want
Speaker 7: to look at this one or two ways? Do you
Speaker 7: want to take this recent form and some of these
Speaker 7: losses as a bit of a burden and something to
Speaker 7: be worried about and a little concerned about, or do
Speaker 7: you see this as a massive opportunity to kind of
Speaker 7: get back on the front foot and really thrive off
Speaker 7: that fear factor which I think she has as soon
Speaker 7: as she walks through the gates at Rolling Garrels, The
Speaker 7: fear factor that the rest of the competition experiences when
Speaker 7: they see you even in the venue, let alone come
Speaker 7: up against you, come up against you. So that's kind
Speaker 7: of the rhetoric or the storytelling, I guess, if you like,
Speaker 7: or some of the energy that I'd be trying to
Speaker 7: create if I was in the camp. That's what I
Speaker 7: say now taking a bit of a deeper look. Tracking back, look,
Speaker 7: we know one of the things that troubles Eager, and
Speaker 7: Luke would have a view on this as well. I'm
Speaker 7: sure if you can starve Eager of time and really
Speaker 7: play with weapons up in the court and threaten her
Speaker 7: with some weapons, it's not easy for her. She prefers
Speaker 7: if she could draw it up a little more time
Speaker 7: on the ball, which is why it plays her preferred
Speaker 7: surface any time to get that yeah right. She's another
Speaker 7: player that likes to use her forehand. Luke spoke previously
Speaker 7: about Peyton Sterns and the clay, the opportunity that allows
Speaker 7: her to get to a left and use her forehand
Speaker 7: as a weapon. If there is an Archilles' heel in
Speaker 7: her game, it's her second serve. It's not as easy
Speaker 7: to take advantage of the second serve on clay. But
Speaker 7: that's where I'd be focusing if I was in the camp,
Speaker 7: because some of the concerns are on her second serve numbers.
Speaker 7: So she's lost recently to Gough, to Ostapenko and to Collins.
Speaker 7: If we have a look at these matches, when she
Speaker 7: played Ostapenko in Stuttgart.
Speaker 5: She won thirty nine.
Speaker 7: Percent of her second serve points thirty nine percent against
Speaker 7: GoF She lost one on one, got beaten convincingly about
Speaker 7: forty percent of her second serve points, so points on
Speaker 7: her own second serve when she played Collins, and this
Speaker 7: is the one that did concern me a little bit
Speaker 7: because Osta Penco can take the racket out of your
Speaker 7: hands at times, so can Goff. Now that was more
Speaker 7: one sided than any of us would have been thinking Colins.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have expected that to play out the way
Speaker 7: it did. She won just twenty two percent of her
Speaker 7: second serve points, and I had a deeper look last year,
Speaker 7: she's winning fifty five. Over the year as a whole,
Speaker 7: she wins fifty five percent of her second serve points.
Speaker 7: So when we're thinking thirty nine, forty and twenty two,
Speaker 7: we're a long way down on fifty five. This year
Speaker 7: as a whole so far, she's down in the mid forties.
Speaker 7: So her second serve we know it's an Achilles' heel
Speaker 7: for her. It's now starting to be exposed more than
Speaker 7: we've seen pre So I've told you what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: If I'm in the camp of eager, you know, in
Speaker 7: terms of the messaging that I'm trying to deliver going
Speaker 7: into rolling garrass. These are some of the things. Well,
Speaker 7: this is one area where the competition are trying to
Speaker 7: pick her off, so that'll be where the coaching team
Speaker 7: are focusing. There's the I guess, the emotional hook, and
Speaker 7: then there's the tactical stuff.
Speaker 5: So what have we got to do better?
Speaker 7: Maybe it's we've got to find more first serves, so
Speaker 7: the second serve is being exposed less. Maybe we've got
Speaker 7: to be bolder and more courageous and get after our
Speaker 7: second serve more often. And that's kind of I think
Speaker 7: sometimes those two things can be tied together. So you
Speaker 7: walk through the gates at Roland Garross, you this is
Speaker 7: your territory. Every other player is trying to knock you
Speaker 7: off here, and you've got the fear factor here. So
Speaker 7: let's believe in your kick serve again. Let's get that
Speaker 7: thing launching. Maybe it's back to basics. Let's keep it simple.
Speaker 7: Every second serve goes to the righty back end, and
Speaker 7: we back your execution to get it lifting and kicking
Speaker 7: and jumping on players. But let's do it with more
Speaker 7: viciousness than what we've been delivering it late of late
Speaker 7: how we've been delivering it of late. So that's how
Speaker 7: I see the Eggos Roon Tech game coming into Rolling Garrison,
Speaker 7: Bumps in the Road. Sure, still the Queen of Clay
Speaker 7: for me, it's still my favorite going into Rolling Girls.
Speaker 3: And that's what Simon said.
Speaker 5: How was that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was intense and some of the
Speaker 3: numbers Yeah, well there was some big and there were
Speaker 3: some small. That was very good. Luke any thoughts.
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, she's definitely got that aura like sort
Speaker 6: of Raffa has when they walk through the gates and
Speaker 6: four time champion and playing her on shatrare definitely has
Speaker 6: that different feeling. So thing exactly what you said, trying
Speaker 6: to channel sort of that narrative to her if you're
Speaker 6: in the camp of Sweet Tech.
Speaker 5: So very interesting.
Speaker 6: Those second serve numbers definitely very down on previous, very concerning,
Speaker 6: and I think you know a lot of the women
Speaker 6: they don't want to get into sort of any baseline
Speaker 6: exchanges with her, right, So the second serve is, you know,
Speaker 6: sort of the first shot in the rally if you're
Speaker 6: the opponent, so you're trying to take it, you know,
Speaker 6: take advantage, trying to be aggressive. So I think that's
Speaker 6: definitely an area where they're trying to get at her,
Speaker 6: and it's proving that bit of a a sort of
Speaker 6: concerning area for her.
Speaker 5: At the moment.
Speaker 7: Let's get back to a strengths based approach, kicks of
Speaker 7: heaviness of the Foyan, physicality and movement and willingness and
Speaker 7: ability to defend on the surface. No one can get
Speaker 7: through you at this venue at Roland Garross. If the
Speaker 7: courts are lively. Sometimes in Paris we see thirty degrees
Speaker 7: and lively courts, sometimes we see ten.
Speaker 3: And it's always spooky when everyone there is wearing the
Speaker 3: same hats.
Speaker 1: Someone told me I need to buy one, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I will not be doing there work.
Speaker 7: I think I'm saying, o A. If the courts are lively,
Speaker 7: you can use your weapons to great effect. If the
Speaker 7: courts are playing a bit more dead and a bit
Speaker 7: more slip, then players can't get through you because of
Speaker 7: how good a defender you are, so you can come
Speaker 7: at it from any either way you want. Really, if
Speaker 7: you're in the coaching team and.
Speaker 3: Luke Egger's about to go to match call. Right now,
Speaker 3: you've got one sentence to yell out to her for
Speaker 3: her to listen. Go, that's an interesting choice.
Speaker 5: Back yourself. You've won this thing four times.
Speaker 3: But then unfortunately she's got those giant head phones on
Speaker 3: and she turned around again eager take the headphones off.
Speaker 3: Sage advice.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 6: You've won these four times, ten less than Rafa. It's
Speaker 6: still pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, A ways to go before you get a statue
Speaker 3: out in the front.
Speaker 5: Yes, and she needs at least three more.
Speaker 1: Proper Let's roll into Ace of the week.
Speaker 3: Great, Well, anyone is still listening? No, over to you, Luke,
Speaker 3: how are you? I can go?
Speaker 6: I had the mum for Mother's Day come over from
Speaker 6: the other show this weekend, so the week great. Great
Speaker 6: to see her, my brother and his son. And because
Speaker 6: on the Thursday show said that we're going to win, ye,
Speaker 6: so we decided to go to that game. It was
Speaker 6: pretty boring because I knew the result going to win
Speaker 6: is bad, so yeah, was right normally yeah, exactly and
Speaker 6: then yeah, and then played a bit of tennis on Saturday,
Speaker 6: went to the blockbuster game Richmond and West Coast seveneenth
Speaker 6: and eighteenth.
Speaker 1: Believe Richmond one. But the one game I decided not
Speaker 1: to watch two points.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my little nephew, he likes Richmond. So it went
Speaker 6: to that one and then dropped in the airport Monday morning.
Speaker 6: So good, good to see them. They were ready to
Speaker 6: get back to the country where they see.
Speaker 3: It's a bit out here in the big city. Yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Footy matches for people who ain't used to being in
Speaker 2: large volumes of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're probably used to watching footy from the
Speaker 3: back of the ute, not the top of the g Yeah.
Speaker 6: So we're in the Colton cheer squad. Really good fun,
Speaker 6: good win for Coton. Few injuries, but showed a lot
Speaker 6: of heart.
Speaker 5: So that's my ad.
Speaker 1: How about you.
Speaker 3: Well, I was planning to say, oh I finally got
Speaker 3: a haircut, but I didn't get a haircut.
Speaker 1: No, I can still see that weird curl at.
Speaker 3: This weird little ringlet happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this weird flicky thing. Okay, you need
Speaker 1: a haircut.
Speaker 3: It's an audio product on tube. Oh yeah, to shame
Speaker 3: in it, so I'm gonna throw it out there. It
Speaker 3: was Mother's Day on the weekend and we put the
Speaker 3: boys and I put on a big day for their
Speaker 3: mum and we cooked a beautiful lunch. Everyone had fun
Speaker 3: and they gave her some gifts they made at kinder
Speaker 3: and at school.
Speaker 1: Did you pop them in the bin?
Speaker 3: I didn't. Let's just say they might be there now,
Speaker 3: dig cat maybe I love her? Yeah good, yeah, filing
Speaker 3: them away for the garbage man to find. No, but
Speaker 3: Mother's Day was great, So I shout out to all
Speaker 3: the mums out there that it was just really fun,
Speaker 3: fund good and I feel I have a haircut by
Speaker 3: this time next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope for our embrace.
Speaker 5: It and just go.
Speaker 3: Maybe you could go full early guys with job like lord,
Speaker 3: fuck what I was thinking? More like Karen? Can I
Speaker 3: speak to the managers? Style?
Speaker 1: That too intrue from Pathing campra.
Speaker 5: Into winter, So yeah, keep me wrong, grow the locks out, ponytail.
Speaker 3: Finally, we need to chat ept some of these hairstyles
Speaker 3: on you. Yeah, I'm that that's the afternoon Sworded. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if we do do that, they'll put them in the Simon.
Speaker 7: Mine's probably on a similar theme. Mother's Day were obviously
Speaker 7: a very special day for all mums and the kids.
Speaker 7: So my oldest to Charlie and Edie, I'm not a
Speaker 7: Cats fan, but they managed to their grandparents and cousins
Speaker 7: and they are all mad Cats fans living down in
Speaker 7: Geelong like we do, and so they managed to secure
Speaker 7: themselves a pass or a ticket to the Cat's game,
Speaker 7: which the Cats were. They didn't come out on the
Speaker 7: right side of the ledger of on this occasion, but
Speaker 7: it was still a great atmosphere for a youngster and
Speaker 7: just on Breeze she touched on the exact right note
Speaker 7: there where she said something about the overwhelming crowds. My
Speaker 7: daughter came with me to the game. That was the
Speaker 7: first time she's made it, but she didn't quite get
Speaker 7: to the start line. Just a little bit too many people,
Speaker 7: too much. It's a little bit too full on, so
Speaker 7: some had to come down and pick her up on
Speaker 7: the other side of the Saint Mary's there. But Charlie,
Speaker 7: I really enjoyed the day and we're really grateful for
Speaker 7: what Anna, their mom does for for us, for me
Speaker 7: and for all of us in our family.
Speaker 3: Absolutely love that.
Speaker 1: Well, my of the week is not to do with
Speaker 1: Mother's Day because I am not a mother.
Speaker 3: And what about your dog? And I am always about.
Speaker 1: A dog mum.
Speaker 2: But yeah, my parents are back home and Nui. But
Speaker 2: my ace of the week is that I hop on
Speaker 2: a plane on Tuesday evening to go to Paris for
Speaker 2: Roland Garrett.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which will be fun viva.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I won't be here next week.
Speaker 3: Even better, I know I've got a new the week. Guys,
Speaker 3: totally fair that you're going to be over there at
Speaker 3: the having stuggle.
Speaker 1: Cargo, understand me.
Speaker 2: No, So I'm looking forward to that, going over to
Speaker 2: do some stuff and figure out how the French do
Speaker 2: opening week, not figure out, but just speak exposed to
Speaker 2: their opening week, look at the media day stuff, do
Speaker 2: some meetings and yeah, see how Aussie's go get some
Speaker 2: content of out Aussies and qualities, which you know it's
Speaker 2: always hard for us over here to get content of
Speaker 2: our Australian players for our Tennis Australia platform. So very
Speaker 2: excited about that. And I will be hanging out with
Speaker 2: our ball kids who are in the Rolling Garras.
Speaker 3: Because we're sending some Aussie ball kids, two.
Speaker 2: Kids going over, so I will be doing some content
Speaker 2: with them, like day in the life and what it's
Speaker 2: like to work in the Roland Garross ball kids squad
Speaker 2: versus Io ball kids squad, So lots of fun things
Speaker 2: happening and I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 3: That's great. It's weird to think, like all these there's
Speaker 3: four Grand Slams, so we're the Australian Open. Like each
Speaker 3: one probably has like their version of a Brie, like
Speaker 3: their head of.
Speaker 1: His name's Manuel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks exactly like he's got a little mustache
Speaker 3: a little bit, always riding a bike with a bagout
Speaker 3: out the front. It's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be great.
Speaker 5: Were you play caught one on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Were you playing now for it? Oh my god?
Speaker 5: Wondering who didn't bag the court?
Speaker 3: That's goods Yeah, prou Ryan.
Speaker 1: It's just there to get some kids to draw on
Speaker 1: acrossant on a whiteboard.
Speaker 3: Was here tennis while you going to the Homer clay
Speaker 3: so you better get that right when you're over there.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I met the kids.
Speaker 2: I'm on a group chat with all our team, so
Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to seeing how their experience is
Speaker 2: because imagine being fifteen, that'd be crazy and getting awarded
Speaker 2: this trip to go to Paris. And there's such lovely kids.
Speaker 2: All our bull kids are. I actually love our Bull
Speaker 2: Kids squad. But what just a special special thing to
Speaker 2: be able to do and one of them turned sixteen
Speaker 2: when they get over there are you going over Luke?
Speaker 2: Yeah great, I'll be able to see you guys, because
Speaker 2: I want to see get as much content of our
Speaker 2: Aussies to be really able to promote everyone and hopefully
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, really good. It's going to take it. I
Speaker 3: can feel it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're all manifested.
Speaker 3: You've got his name written on you, Luke.
Speaker 5: Yes, shout out.
Speaker 1: Placement.
Speaker 6: Yeah, quarterfinals last year and as I said before, he
Speaker 6: could and sort of freshen up in this week leading up,
Speaker 6: and I think he's a real chance. He's been playing
Speaker 6: really well a solo clay court swing so far and
Speaker 6: I think he can definitely make a run.
Speaker 3: Well that might wrap us up journey. What I'm bray, gentlemen,
Speaker 3: cross from us.
Speaker 2: Thanks for being part of the show. Is always a
Speaker 2: pleasure to have you both. Look forward to seeing you
Speaker 2: soon in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1: I won't be here. I will be emparissed.
Speaker 3: I will be calling in that that's our audience sighing,
Speaker 3: I know, but I will be calling in. Oh that's right.
Speaker 3: We'll put you on the big screen.
Speaker 2: From Roland Garros with Duncan and a few others. Might
Speaker 2: get Bernie on as well to talk about how the
Speaker 2: Ausies are going. In the meantime, don't forget you can
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Speaker 1: Thanks, team, have a great week and see you next week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Troubles