1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Abby Chatfield calls out Megan 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Mark's ablest comments, Kurt Tills's red wine spon con Anastasia 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: kings North falls in love with an iconic Aussie drink, 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: and Madison Woolly's friendship tattoo. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert and I'm so 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: excited because my Christmas tree is finally up. It's the 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: first ever artificial tree I've ever had, and I am 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: very happy with it. And I've got a tip for you. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: If you want to buy an expensive Christmas tree, bite 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: in the boxing day sales because you will forget how 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: much it costs. I had to go back and check 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: my email because this thing is massive. Well, we measured it, 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: remember when we're at Um and Dad's house, and we 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: worked out that it was about as wide as we 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: are tall. It is actually true because there's some really 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: floppy branches that are making it very wide. I'm so 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: envious because the past three years we've run a competition 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: on our Instagram for our listeners to pick who's Christmas 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: tree they like. The most and who's is the best? 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: And every year mine has won. And I'm starting to 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: feel a little bit nervous because your tree is so 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: much bigger than mine, it's so much fatter than mine. 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: The potential we're talking about tree, Yeah, the potential for 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: you to have a really wow Christmas tree is there. 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I feel a bit of pressure because last year I 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: had a real tree and I redecorated it probably three 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: or four times. I mean, there was that instant where 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: it fell over. And yesterday I got my cousin Stewie, 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: who's what six foot five over to help me. It's 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: almost seven foot and I'm so glad he was there 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: because I was half contemplating putting the tree up myself, 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: but it's so tall I wouldn't have been able to 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: assemble it. I have to say my Christmas tree has 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: been up, I think for almost ten days now. I'm 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: so sorry for anyone who follows me, because all I've 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: been doing is spamming the shit out of it. And 38 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: I have to say, I don't mean to treat my 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: own horn, but I think I'm quite talented at decorating. 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: I've got a beautiful red, gold and white theme going on. 41 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: A bit of a candy Land theme as well. See 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I like your theme, but I'm thinking I can't do 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: what you've done. And I was having a look at 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: some tree in Spo last night and I saw Ellie Watson, 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: also known as Elsa's Wholesome Life, and she did this 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: really cool theme which you've already said you don't like. 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: But maybe I need to ask the listeners. It's got 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: like bronzed blobos, but it's kind of like a snowy wood. 49 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: I I'm telling you now, Kate, you need to listen 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: to us, because one year you bought those feathery birds 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: that were so ugly and do not belong on a tree. 52 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: You also did a pink theme no offense and any 53 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: listeners who have it, but you just didn't execute it well. 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: I like to think it outside the square a bit. 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I do like the traditional Christmas stuff, but 56 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: I but you've got it. I don't want mine to 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: look exactly like yours do not. My guilty pleasure is 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: at the moment it's watching influences put up they're trees. 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: I have loved watching a whole bunch of UK influencers 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: because their trees are better than ours. Oh my gosh, 61 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Saffron Barker, I'm so passionate about this flog. It was 62 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: a very enjoyable vlog, except she made made a grave mistake. 63 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: I think she ordered a bows Hill tree and she 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: got her at mum to put it up. They bought. 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: It's her first tree in her new house, and she 66 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: decided to go with a rainbow theme, which I thought 67 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: was very brave because you don't normally see influences doing 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: bright themes. And she bought some beautiful babbles. They put 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: up the tree, but she wasn't happy with it, so 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: that day she went and bought a you know, a 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: deal of a tree, run of the mill, crappy, snowy 72 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: one department store tree, no offense, that is nowhere near 73 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: as good as the bows Hill one she had, And 74 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: now she's like, oh, I love it, but do you 75 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: notice that tree is like the exact same one as 76 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: her parents have, So I feel like that's her childhood tree. 77 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: I felt personally attacked though when I watched that blog. 78 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: I was sitting down with my tree lit up, watching 79 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: this very Christmas evevlog, and I was like, how the 80 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: fuck does she not like Bowsam Hill. It's the best 81 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: tree I've ever seen. It looked so much better. I 82 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: am interested to see if she does swap the tree, 83 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: because I agreed the green tree would look so much 84 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: better with the rainbow than the snowy tree. I'd love 85 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: if listeners sent in what they're Christmas trees are looking on. 86 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: Let's put a thread in our Facebook community, because I 87 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: feel like women in particularly get very proud of their tree. 88 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Hey, queen, thank you so much for this unfounded, invalid, 89 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: and ablest opinion. 90 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield has slammed Meghan Marx's comments about ADHD. The 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: podcast host labeled the remarks as ablest after Meghan called 92 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: ADHD a trend and suggested influences were using ADHD medication 93 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: as a weight loss drug. Now, Sophie, can you fill 94 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: us in on Abby and Meghan's relationship? Yeah, well, Abby 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: and Meghan both appeared on the Bachelor, but in different series, 96 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: So if you cast your mind back to a couple 97 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: of years ago, Meghan was on Richie's series of the Bachelor, 98 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: and he, if you don't remember, was the redheaded guy 99 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: who always said cool bananas. And she also ran off 100 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: with a contestant on the show with Tiffany and I 101 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: remember all the time. I think it was actually in 102 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: probably twenty fifteen that it was such a big shock. Definitely. 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Abby Chatfield needs any sort of introduction. 104 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: She has her own podcast, she's taken over the television land, 105 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: She's been hosting so many shows anyway. Abby and Meghan 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: have both been appearing a lot in the media lately, 107 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: as in their two names have been put side by 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: side because Meghan is currently appearing on The Challenge alongside 109 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield's ex boyfriend and also Bachelor alumni Conrad b 110 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: and Stevens. So Abby was forced to confirm her breakup 111 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: with Conrad when photos of Conrad and Meghan were leaked 112 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: from the Challenge of the pair kissing in a spa. Now, 113 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: Conrad was recently interviewed on The Handbags podcast and confirmed 114 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: he and Abby had split before he appeared on the Challenge. 115 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: It's a side note. Have you seen that the Challenge 116 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: has been axed from major away on some back channel 117 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: because literally nobody was watching it. Well, I think it's 118 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: been put on at a later time slot. And guy 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: listened to the interview on the Handbags with Conrad and 120 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: he was literally plugging the show so much, and he 121 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: was talking about how in the most recent episode is 122 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: very explosive and he actually had to have counseling after it. 123 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: So we think that this is why Megan Marx is 124 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: popping her head up and trying to be relevant and 125 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: cause drama. Well, we should get into what Meghan actually said. Well, 126 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: I agree with Sophie. That was the first thing I 127 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: thought of when she decided to put up an unpopular 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: opinions box on her Instagram. I don't think anything comes 129 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: good from those sorts of things. So for those who 130 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen this shit storm, Megan was asked by a 131 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: follower if she believed ADHD was a fad amongst influencers now. 132 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: Megan agreed that she thought there's a possibility it could 133 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: be a bit of a trend and suggested that some 134 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: people's ADHD symptoms were brought on by environmental factors like 135 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: being overstimulated on social media. And then she went on 136 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: to question who doesn't have a problem with concentrating and 137 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: said as a society that we need to address why 138 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: we aren't concentrating. She also said this. 139 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: Did not realize that my talk about ADHD had cut out, 140 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: So I'm going to finish my trade of thought. I 141 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: was saying that it's interesting so many of these influencers 142 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: have lost quite a little bit of weight and they're 143 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: not talking about it. I do think that's interesting. ADHD 144 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: medication is basically math. 145 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: And you lose your appetite, and these influence has been like, 146 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: how can dare you ask me about that? They're very 147 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: happy to talk about being on medication, happy to talk 148 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: about ADHD, but they don't want to talk about the 149 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: fact the lost weight because of their medication. And I 150 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: think that's problematic too. 151 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: And if that's not unbelievable enough. In the caption on 152 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: her story, she wrote that ADHD medication was the new 153 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,559 Speaker 1: influencer drugs. As soon as I saw these stories pop up, 154 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: I knew they were aimed at Abby Chatfield because Abby has 155 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: been talking about weight loss recently. Yeah, we spoke about 156 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: it on our podcast a couple of weeks ago, because 157 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: she has been copying a lot of comments saying your 158 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: body is shrinking? Are you becoming a new Kardashian? And 159 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: she was very careful to not exactly touch on why 160 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: she has lost a lot of weight, And it's quite 161 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: clear now it is from her ADHD medication. Well, she 162 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: kind of did hint on her podcast last month that 163 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: there was a connection to her weight loss in ADHD medication, 164 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: without specifically spelling it out. She said, I'm also a 165 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: medication for ADHD. It's been great for my ADHD, but 166 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: less great for my appetite and me remembering to eat. 167 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm having a really hard time eating food because I'm 168 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: extremely nauseous when I eat food. See when I listen 169 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: to that podcast, I did not pick up on that 170 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: at all. And I think, Sophie, what you were saying 171 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: before is that she purposely didn't put the link between 172 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: her weight loss and her ADHD medication because she doesn't 173 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: want that out there. She doesn't want to promote it 174 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: to others. And I think it's a very unhelpful thing 175 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: that Megan Marx has now put out there, because I 176 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't have made that connection at all. I mean, if anything, 177 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: we've spoken about the heroin chic era coming back in 178 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: and the Kardashians losing weight, and this size zero unfortunately 179 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: seems to be coming back. I never, even in my 180 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: wildest dreams, connected eighty with it, and now I think, well, 181 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there are going to be like, 182 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: well I've got a few of those symptoms, maybe I 183 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: actually go on ADHD medication. But again, I think it's 184 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: important to point out, and this is where Abby's response 185 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: comes in, that ADHD isn't something that you can just 186 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: go to a doctor and they just give you medications 187 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: straight away. Abby spoke a lot about how you know, 188 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: it's a very long process. You actually have to go 189 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: to a GP, then a psychiatrist. It took her eighteen 190 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: months to finally get diagnosed with ADHD. Now, Abby did 191 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: really clap back at Megan, so she branded Meghan's opinion 192 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: on ADHD as unfounded, invalid, and ablest And as you said, Kate, 193 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: she said it was offensive to call ADHD a trend 194 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: and pointed out how difficult it actually is to get 195 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: a diagnosis and also medicated. For example, she said it 196 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: cost her one thy five hundred dollars and took eighteen 197 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: months for her to finally get her hands on some 198 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: medication that she really needed. And you can see how 199 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: TikTok has made such a big impact on ADHD diagnosis 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: because the hashtag ADHD has over two point four billion views, 201 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: and of course it's been a really great thing for 202 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: spreading awareness and building a community and also destigmatizing the disorder. 203 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: But there's also a big downside because TikTok has been 204 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: accused of perpetuating stereotypes and allowing unqualified people to have 205 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: a big platform. That's a thing cave that's very complex, 206 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: and there are definitely a lot of different layers to it. 207 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: I think one thing that's been really positive about social 208 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: media is that now more women are getting diagnosed, because 209 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: before a lot of people thought that it was only 210 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: naughty young boys who had ADHD. But we're learning that 211 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: there's so many different symptoms and also things that can 212 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: be As Abby said, people superpower because, as Abby said, 213 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: if she didn't have her ADHD, she probably wouldn't be 214 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: as good at her job as she is because she's 215 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: very passionate, very focused on things, loves looking into things. 216 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: And that's really the reason why everyone was up in 217 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: arms when Meghan came out and said this stuff, because 218 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: people have put in such hard work to destigmatize ADHD, 219 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: and for her to come out and say, oh, it's 220 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: just a trend and people are putting it on completely 221 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: derails what everyone's been working hard to do. I feel 222 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: like we have to throw to some of the grabs 223 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: by Abby because she was on fire. Here's what she said. 224 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 4: Are you fucking serious? 225 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: That is the most deeply discussed that is so, who 226 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: the fuck do you think you are saying that people 227 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: are owed an explanation for anyone's weight loss or weight gain. 228 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: If anyone's changing their own body, Who the fuck are you? 229 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: Why would people need to? It's funny how us stick 230 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: out medication where they won't think about their weight loss. Yeah, babe, 231 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: because people are trying to destigmatize medication for mental health issues, 232 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: so it's important to see a medication. It's important to 233 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: figure out what you're fucking doing. If you feel comfortable, 234 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: no one has to tell you anything, particularly why they've 235 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: lost weight. No one owes you fucking anything. 236 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: Now, on a twist we didn't see coming, Meghan responded 237 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: to Abby's video saying that she actually herself has been 238 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: diagnosed with ADHD and is medicated now. Abby responded saying 239 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: that this made Meghan's behavior even worse, as she should 240 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: be more understanding and should stop using her public platform 241 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: to push myths and falsehoods. This was the biggest what 242 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: the fuck moment because I feel like Meghan almost kept 243 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: her diagnosis up her sleeve to almost throw in the 244 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: face of those when they called her out. It's almost like, oh, 245 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: it's okay, I can say what I want because I 246 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: actually do have ADHD as well. But it's weird because 247 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: she's an influencer and she's saying all the influences are 248 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: just claiming it, and then claims it after the fact. 249 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: She's also someone who is very thin and fit looking. Well, 250 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: she actually know how difficult it is to get her 251 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: hands on medication. Yeah, and how long the diagnosis takes. 252 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: It's all very odd. Now in the media, everyone has 253 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: been pitying Megan and Abby against each other, and that's 254 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: because of the backstory and the fact that Conrad did 255 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: hook up with Megan after he and Abby broke up. 256 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: And Abby has come out and said, can media outlets 257 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: stop calling me? Calling out Megan Marx about her ableism 258 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: and her weird comments about ADHD a feud. It's not 259 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: a feud. I called someone out. I don't have a 260 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: personal issue with her. I have an issue with what 261 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: she said that leads me to think things about her character. 262 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: I agree with what Abby said, and also I want 263 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: to defend Abby in this situation because she wasn't the 264 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: one who started the said feud. I feel like Meghan 265 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: targeted her, probably for relevance, and also for the fact 266 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: that she's trying to pump up this failed reality show 267 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: and get eyeballs on her and her Instagram. Everyone on 268 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: the challenge was probably hoping that their instagrams are going 269 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: to blow up more because they were appearing on this 270 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: show that was supposed to be good, complete flop. I agree. 271 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: I think Megan is just piggybacking off Abby's fame and 272 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: trying to stay relevant and trying to get eyeballs on 273 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: this TV show that no one is interested in. I 274 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: was half interested to check it out when Conrad was 275 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: spooking that it was going to be something big, but 276 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it's done. It's dash, Like if I 277 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: haven't watched the first episode, I'm just not going to 278 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: be tuning in. I'm like that with Love Island. I've 279 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of people message saying, oh, why aren't 280 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: you guys watching Love Island Australia this year, and I 281 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: feel like, once you have missed that initial episode in 282 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: your I tried watching it and it's shit. Some people 283 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: told me how good it was. No, I think it's okay, 284 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: but it's just I don't know. I just like the 285 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: English version of way better. Just there's something about the Aussies. 286 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of like if you grow up watching the 287 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: English version of Office and you can't watch the American 288 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: version or vice versa, because I know a lot of 289 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: people love the American version. It's like that you have 290 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: to have to be a fan of one. What's interesting 291 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: about the challenge flopping is that all of these people 292 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: have huge social media followings. They've obviously been brought into 293 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: the show to try and get young people watching free 294 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: to air TV again, and this is the same approach 295 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: it looks like the project will be taking when they 296 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: get their new hosts. So there's been rumors that maybe 297 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: they'll get Abby Chatfield or Laura Burn, but it's kind 298 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: of shown that it's not really a surefire thing to 299 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: get raided. The whole thing is that they've just got 300 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of has beens and washed up reality 301 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: stars who were on TV about six years ago. That's 302 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: why they didn't bring Bachelor and Paradise back. But this 303 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: the challenge is almost like a rehash version. I feel 304 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: like more people would have watched Bachelor in Paradise than 305 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: the challenge. 306 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: So that was my drunken tattoo story. 307 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: Madison Woolley has revealed she got inked on a drunken 308 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: night out with her friend. She told her followers she 309 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: tried to keep the tattoo a secret from her conservative parents, 310 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: but they heard about it on her podcast. Now, Amy, 311 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: can you tell us about this tattoo because I feel 312 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: like there's a bit of a backstory. Yeah, so the 313 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: tattoo is a small sea on her ankle. God, I'm 314 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: already picturing what this is about. Well, she was pretty 315 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: cryptic on YouTube about the meaning behind it. She just 316 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: told her followers it was an in joke with her friends. 317 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: I almost feel like that's worse because like, oh, I 318 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: just think of the sea word. So did I? Because 319 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: when you think of you think of the sea word, 320 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: and then people have that joke what's low than a C? 321 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: And that's an ankle? 322 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: What was that? 323 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: Just? 324 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Our dad? Remember our dad used to joking. Our dad 325 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: didn't make that? Uh oh okay, that's reference to one 326 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: of Kate's ex boyfriends. So pretty that's where that comes from. 327 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: So Madison opened up on her podcast to her best 328 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: friend Caitlin Rodriguez, and she said, this sea actually stood 329 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: for the word cleo. So let's throw to a grab 330 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: of what cleo means because it is a little confusing. 331 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: I was really worried. I was gonna wake up in 332 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: the morning and be like, what the fuck? But I 333 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 5: kind of had fun. I think it was it's life experience. 334 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, well for reference, so it was our other friend Cleo. 335 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: My name is not actually Cleo, that's just but her 336 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: name is Cleo. 337 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: We have this nickname in our friendship group called Cleo. 338 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 6: Cleo. 339 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, so we just call everyone Cleo. Does not make anything, 340 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: doesn't make any sense. Everyone's called Cleo. But our friend 341 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: Live is like the Moorst Cleo. 342 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 6: Yeah she is, She's Cleo. But our whole friend group 343 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 6: is the Cleos. Yeah, we're all Cleo. But if like 344 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 6: lives there, she's the only one you can call Cleo 345 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 6: because she's Cleo. 346 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so weird, it doesn't make sense. 347 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 5: So I was with my girlfriend Live and we got 348 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 5: tattoos of a little sea Cleo. 349 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Or no Cleo. I feel like this is an in 350 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: joke that's not gonna date. Well, like, you know those 351 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: things you think are really funny at the time, and 352 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: then that's tattooed on your body forever. She basically said, 353 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: it's a friendship tattoo. So that's why she got the sea. 354 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: Her friend Live also got the sea, and this came 355 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: as a real sea, yeah, binking cock. So this all 356 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: came as a bit of a surprise to Madison's friend Caitlin, 357 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: because she said she never thought in her wildest dreams 358 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: she'd see the day that Madison Wooly got inked. It 359 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of when Kim Kardashian was interviewed 360 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: on like The Late Show and like do you have 361 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: a tattoo? And she's like, why would I put a 362 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: bumper sticker on a Bentley. When she first announced she 363 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: got the tattoo on O vlog, I was thinking, oh fuck, 364 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: I hope it's not a matching tattoo with her ex 365 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: partner Jonathan, who she's rumored to be back with, because 366 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: he has all these new, random little tattoos all over 367 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: him and they're those sort of fine line tattoos that 368 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: are very in fashion. He's got a butterfly in the 369 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: middle of his arm, So I was expecting it to 370 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: be one of them. Thank God it's a friendship tattoo. 371 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: I almost feel like it's just as dangerous getting a 372 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: friendship tattoo when you're in your early twenties, because it's 373 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: such a tumultuous time that you sometimes don't keep those friends. Well, 374 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: it was obviously a spare of the moment decision because Caitlyn, Yeah, well, 375 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: Caitlyn told their listeners that Madison got drunk with their 376 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: friend live in Surrey Hills and then wandered down to 377 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: the tattoo parlor that's called the Illustrated Man, and they 378 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: do tattoos for about one hundred dollars. This is really 379 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: a hot spot for anyone who gets drunk and wants 380 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: a tattoo. But Madison's told Caitlyn that she now needs 381 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: to get the Sea tattoo because it is, of course 382 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: a friendship tattoo. However, Caitlyn seemed annoyed that they'd got 383 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: the Sea. She said that they thought she should have 384 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: got an outline of a spicy market. I think this 385 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: would have been way cooler. Well, that reminds me, there's 386 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: all of these pop up events in like influencer events, 387 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: and they were doing those fine line tattoos. I feel 388 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: like Lily Brown got a little chilly she did, and 389 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: that's now obviously her pajama line is called chill. Yeah, 390 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: well that makes more sense. Why didn't she get something 391 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: about with her own brand? You don't really want your 392 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: own name tattooed onto you. I would feel a bit 393 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: offended though, if my friends went out without me and 394 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: got these friendship tattoos. It's sort of like you're the 395 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: odd one out. What friendship tattoo? Do you think we 396 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: would all get outspoken the podcast tattooed across? 397 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: That? 398 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: Would? That be the only tattoo I would ever consider 399 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: getting is one of my dog Archie, like a really 400 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: tiny little archie on me, like a name, actually not 401 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: his name, but like a cute little cocker spaniel. I 402 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: feel like that's more something you do when the animals 403 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: passed away. But I'm just saying, like, I don't know, 404 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: if you go around with it on you, you know, 405 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: when you've already got the door, I know what we get. 406 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: I would get a little tiny fifty cent piece because 407 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: for the fitty crew, which is our cousins. How do 408 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: you feel after you drink Alco? Because we both do 409 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: not drink alcohol anymore. I'm a grandma. We used to. 410 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: I was a bit more. 411 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: I was a party boy. 412 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 5: You well, yeah, when we first met, I thought you 413 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 5: were just a pure party boy and I was like, 414 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 5: this boy is going to get bored of me real fast. 415 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: Content creator Kurt Tills has sparked debate after sharing a 416 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: pay post promoting a mini wine fridge. The husband of 417 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: wellness influencer Sarah's Day has previously said he doesn't drink 418 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: so who is the sponsorship with? Well? The sponsor in 419 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: question is LG Australia, and Kurt appears to be a 420 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: longtime brand ambassador for them. He's done a number of 421 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: other posts promoting their products, and in the post, Kurt 422 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: uploaded a photo of him looking very moody with a 423 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: glass of red wine in his hand. He also uploaded 424 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: a photo of the black LG mini wine fridge in 425 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: his kitchen, which I think will be swiftly removed by 426 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: Sarah because it doesn't quite fit the aesthetics of their house. 427 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen a black appliance in 428 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: their house. Well, excuse my ignorance, but I didn't think 429 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: red wine needed to be in a fridge exactly. It's 430 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: only wine. And it makes it even more clear that 431 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: Kurt doesn't drink alcohol, for the fact that he was 432 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: trying to promote putting red wine in a cool fridge now. 433 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: In the caption, Kurt wrote, there is a level of 434 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: sophistication that comes with a glass of red wine in 435 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: an attempt to impress my mates. One day my dream 436 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: of owning a vineyard will be a reality. For now, 437 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: I'll be here with my LG Australia nine bottle mini 438 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: wine fridge. I don't understand the jibe about trying to 439 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: impress his friends because Kurt has spoken about on his 440 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: podcast and also in Sarah's vlogs about how he chose 441 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: not to drink alcohol and that I mean he used 442 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: to drink previously to meeting Sarah, and it seems like 443 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: Sarah has influenced him, you know, not to drink alcohol, 444 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: which I think is a positive there. Well, it is 445 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: quite clear that he used to be a big party boy, 446 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: as Sarah would say, and he has spoken on his 447 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: podcast how he used to very heavily drink. He was 448 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: into party drugs and when he met Sarah he stopped 449 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: drinking altogether as a healthy lifestyle choice. Yeah, that's why 450 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: I thought the comment about attempting to impress his friends 451 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: was weird because just buyers into peer pressure, which I 452 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: think at thirty years old you would hopefully be over. 453 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: It is an odd one because I feel like Sarah 454 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: and Kurt have very much built a brand about leading 455 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: a healthy lifestyle and not drinking. If anything, I'd think 456 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: that they'd be promoting non alcoholic products. There seems to 457 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: be quite a big area of growth there and a 458 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: lot of money to be made there. Oh. I totally agree, 459 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: And I found it very surprising when I heard that 460 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: LG was a long standing partner with Kurt, because any 461 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: PR manager should be doing their due diligence and think, Okay, 462 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: hang on, this isn't a great fit. Because Kurt has 463 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: come out and said that he doesn't drink. I have 464 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: noticed that he and Sarah are trying to tweak their 465 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: brand a little bit online because I've noticed in the 466 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: last couple of years Sarah has spoken about how she 467 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: had a couple of glasses of red wine at her 468 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: sister's wedding, and she's trying to move away from the 469 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: very clean eating because her app Sonny, which is a 470 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: food app that has recipes that are gluten free, dairy 471 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: freeun free, fun free, taste free. She's now trying to 472 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: deviate a little bit because she is eating a bit 473 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: more gluten since her Pregnantcy's like, oh, I might be 474 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: adding a few more gluten recipes in there. The thing 475 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: that I don't get, though, is the ad is for 476 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: the wine fridge. So there are so many non alcoholic 477 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: options out there now that they could have had some 478 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: fun with her and injected his lifestyle and his personality 479 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: because you still can put a non alcoholic drink in 480 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: a fridge. Will you see Olivia Rodgers promoting a whole 481 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: bunch of beautiful non alcoholic options. It would have made 482 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: a lot more sense even to have a bit of 483 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: a joke around saying I no longer drink, but I 484 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: still use this fridge and when I'm so cool and 485 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: when my friends come over, they can put, you know, 486 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: get a friend in the adelaide. Yeah, Brenton, Yeah, I 487 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: did have quite a fun time reading through the comments 488 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: under this post because there were a lot of confused followers. 489 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: Even his wife Sarah joke that it wasn't on brand 490 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: for Kurt. So she wrote under the post, that's just 491 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: a heat tablespoon of body bloom, right. And for those 492 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: who don't know, she's trying to plug one of her 493 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: healthy drink products that she does through Tripeka. So Kurt 494 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: replied underneath that's why my digestin feels so good. That 495 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: is such an awkward comment because the fact that his 496 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: wife is saying, oh my god, it's so odd for 497 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: you to be drinking wine. Yeah. Well. Another follower wrote, 498 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: that's just red cordial in a glass to look fancy, right, 499 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: to which he responded, I'm just trying to get a 500 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: sugar high. So even he's mocking it, it's so weird. 501 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: Another follower wrote, why a sponsorship for a wine fridge 502 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: when both of you don't drink, just saying. Another person 503 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: also wrote underneath probably the easiest ten k he's ever made. 504 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: That's why laugh out loud. Don't blame him. I have 505 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: to continue with the comments because there was some classic ones. 506 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: Someone wrote, you want to own a vineyard and you 507 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: only drink now and then question mark. Someone else said, 508 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: I thought Sarah didn't let you drink. This was probably 509 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: the comment of the day. Someone wrote was that the 510 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: only corner SD allowed you to put that unesthetic fridge 511 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: down for an ad. Kurt actually did respond though, to 512 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: some of the questions where people asked whether he drunk 513 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: or not, he said, I have a drink here and there, 514 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: but I rarely have more than two. There was also 515 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: a bit of back and forth with another set of comments. 516 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: Someone else wrote, do you even know the difference between 517 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Shiraz and Merlow? Weird as you don't really drink now. 518 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: Carlin from The Bachelor, who now strangely works with Kurt 519 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: and Sarah's business house of Grom's chimed in and said 520 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: weird flex but okay. Kurt then replied, someone sounds a 521 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: little passionate about wine now. It just was so awkward 522 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: because this whole comment section was just talking about how 523 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: the fact he didn't drink and why the hell was 524 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: he doing a sponsorship with LG. If I was the brand, 525 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: I would not be happy with this. No. I mean, 526 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: clearly the post got engagement, but all for the wrong reasons. 527 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: I really hope the PR manager actually looks into what 528 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: the comments were and not just the fact that it 529 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: built up engagement, because I do not think that this 530 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: is good publicity for the fridge. It reminds me of 531 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: when Sarah's Day was caught out doing a sponsorship with 532 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: JHD and the timing was so bad because she'd just 533 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: been saying how her hair was really damaged and she 534 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: was staying away from heat tools, and she had done 535 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: a whole YouTube video about trying to do the curly 536 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: Girl hair method and then all of a sudden she 537 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: was flogging off hair straighters on her channel. It's just 538 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: not a good look and it does look like a 539 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: cash grab. I know a lot of the time people say, oh, 540 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: everything influencers post is a cash grab, but I feel 541 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: like these days influencers are really trying to work with 542 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: brands that actually align with them, and they've want to 543 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: look for Gooon and Gooon is like a really cheap 544 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: wine that. 545 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: They show hair in Australia and everyone's gon taying to 546 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: she needs you need to try to do. 547 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: It's somewhat like four or five pound high uniters. 548 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: Which is prodicular, but we're going to get some of 549 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 4: the crazy rilings. 550 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Bring your own drinks You're heart by drinking on the 551 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: iron How to take your own on UK. YouTuber Anastasia 552 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: kings North has been taking her followers along the journey 553 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: as she and her friend's backpack around Australia, and she's 554 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: had a bit to say about an iconic Aussie drink. Yeah, 555 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: so the drink in question is, of course, goon, and 556 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: Anastasia said that a lot of backpackers she's with have 557 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: recommended the drink because, as all Oussie is, no, it's 558 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: incredibly cheap. Now, Anastasia got a little bit confused because 559 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: she thought goon was the type of alcohol. As most 560 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: ausy listeners will know, goon is the general name for 561 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: a cask of wine or boxed wine that's very cheap. 562 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: Do you know. I was doing some googling before because 563 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, why is it goon? And I can't actually 564 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: find an answer. It says it's a bit of a mystery, 565 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: so if anyone does know. But apparently someone who is 566 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: a typical drinker of goon is called a goon monkey. 567 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: A goon monkey, I ever heard of that before? Well, 568 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: I love the fact that Anastasia clearly went into a 569 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: BWS and said, can I have some goon thinking it 570 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: was the actual name of the drink. Can you imagine 571 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: it in the English accent as well? Someone would just 572 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: be like, uh, okay, it's pretty funny because on her 573 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: YouTube channel she was referring to it as the goon God. 574 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: That's when you can tell she's not a local. Well, 575 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: it blew my mind too, because she's also been trying 576 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: a lot of Ossy food that's in the supermarkets and 577 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: she'd never heard of shapes before. She's like, oh, what 578 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: are these really? Look all the flavors now. I felt 579 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: so proud, a proud Ossy seeing our shapes being broadcast 580 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: all of the Brits back home. Well, she's also tested 581 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: out the Ossie McDonald's, and I always enjoy her seeing 582 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: eating the English McDonald's because they seem to have so 583 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: many more exciting things. But I remember before her trip 584 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: she's like, ooh, I want to make sure I try 585 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: out their Christmas menu. Love we don't have one. There 586 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: ain't one. Well, on that topic, I'm sure a lot 587 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: of people will be enjoying some goon this weekend. Maybe 588 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: not our listener base, who's mainly mums. I love our 589 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: topics have been about goon and a wine fridge. Yeah, 590 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: very off brand for us. Really. If you did enjoy 591 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: the show, please make sure you leave a five star rating. 592 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: Also make sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and 593 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: also Spotify so you don't miss an episode, and join 594 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: in on all the conversations going on in our Facebook group, 595 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: which has outspoken the podcast community. 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