1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Quest. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell show podcast Octopussy. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Each week, then, as we tear through the ages out 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: of the eighties, we're asking the millennial Jack bost to 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: review a movie the night before Today's time for Jack 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: to break down, then what he thought of Roger Moore 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: what a James Bond as well Roger more in nineteen 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: eighty three's Octopusy? Jack, what do you make of it? 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: So, so far as we make our way through the 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: alphabet of eighties movies, Octopus is definitely the best one 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: we've watched so far. And that's not to say it 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: wasn't dusty, because there is a lot of dustiness about 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: Roger Moore's James Bond. 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Very different time, very different. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Even thinking a lady would be called octopussy, No woman 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: has ever been called octopusy. How they even got away 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: back in the eighties, and that as a title, I'll 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: never know. 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: So it's sort of you would be forgiven for thinking 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: that this James Bond was a comedy because. 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: There is a lot of the Roger Moore ones played 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: kind of like for commeddat that the fight scenes were 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: just him lightly karate chopping someone at the side of 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: the next someone like eight times bigger than a me 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: with this fall to their knees, unconscious for ten hours. 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: So I'm struggling to know. Did they want us to 27 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: believe that those karti chops were knocking people out or 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 3: were they Jack he was. 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: The world's most secret and deadly agent, despite actually everywhere 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: he went. 31 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: Is a spy, right spine that's meant to lay review yourself. 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Telling everyone who he is, Bond, making sure they got 33 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: his bond James Bond. 34 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 3: The movie essentially starts with him an antiques road show 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: where he. 36 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Before we even get into the antiques road show. What 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: about the terrible song from the movie as well? I mean, 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: there means so many great ones right licensed to keel Goldfinger. 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: This was rubbish. 40 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know who did it, like a TV 41 00:01:53,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: and Adildren or something. The thing about the Bond movies 42 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: they kind of invented the pre titles sequence. There'd be 43 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: something that sets up the fourth coming story and the movie. 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 3: Now with this one, this one, it's got that big 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: bit of action. They all start with that big action 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: sequence and something's happening, but usually they explain what he 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: was doing and it lends itself to something else coming 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: up in the movie. This is like a short film 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: that has nothing else to do with the rest of 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: the film. He's in Cuba. None of the rest of 51 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: the film takes place in Cuba. 52 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: I think Roger More just wanted to go to Cuba 53 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: and when they went, another story. 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: Just make it happen. I'm Roger Moore, I'm James Bond. 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: They never when he's back at the headquarters, they never 56 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: reference it. There's never any piece of information he gets 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: that helps him. For the rest of the film. He 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: just flies the plane around Cuba and it's kind of ridiculous. 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: Then the first bit of the film that is actually 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: to do with what's going on in the story of Octopusy. 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: He goes to the antiques road show. He starts to 62 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: bid on a faberget egg. Again, he's not trying to 63 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: conceal himself as James Bond Bond James Bond, He's bidding 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: against the Russian guy. Also side note, is there any 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: baddie in a James Bond that's not Russian? 66 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: They were mainly Russian and that one is Ahammi old performance. 67 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: Isn't it like a BATOCKI that Russian Russian accent. He's 68 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: bellowing everyone in general, all of isn't it. 69 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: They're all all the Russians in it, terrible Russian accents. 70 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: So I've got I've got just keywords because i can't 71 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: get through all of Octopus, but I've got keywords. Tell 72 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: me what you want to hear about, and I'll give 73 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: you my thoughts on it. Bonds Escapes, Bonds Costumes, Jungle Antics, 74 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: Octopus to the Face, Fight on top of a plane, 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: Antiques road show, We've done clown costumes, last one? 76 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: All right? Can we talk about? 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: The staple part of a lot of Bond movies was 78 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: the gambling scene. I think even in one of the 79 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Daniel Craig's ones, he's he's a guy that he's got 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: like a scar over his eye or something. 81 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: A gambling tape Casino Royal. Yes, great film where they're 82 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: playing Texas Hold and poker and it is high stakes. 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: In this one, the gambling is back. 84 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Which is such a waring old people play on a 85 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: beach holidays. It's just it's just a roll of dice. 86 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: And I think didn't they try and get some big 87 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: drama about the back. He kept throwing double sixes, and 88 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: it's like dice isn't dramatic, it's just it's quite noise 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: on the table as well, and it was just like 90 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: there was no drama whatsoever. But there is that chilling 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: line where he advises him to spend the money quickly. 92 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: I remember, spend the money quickly, mister, otherwise he knows 93 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: he's that spy right for the British government, James Bond. 94 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: He does win that money, and then in the next 95 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: scene he's riding away from a baddy on a rickshaw 96 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: and scene throws the money into the crowd so that 97 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: they all come and get the money, and then he 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: jumps a camel on the rickshaw. 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: What about the identical twins Again, a lot of movies 100 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: in the eighties baddies were represented by terrifying identical twins. 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Used years later in The Matrix as well, there's something 102 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: about identical twins. 103 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: Evil twins who knife throwers in the circus. Now, when 104 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: he gets to the circus, this is my favorite stuff. 105 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: At the end of the film, he has to infiltrate 106 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: a circus because a nuclear bomb is being brought into 107 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: the circuit, which is. 108 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: You know, a common spying thing. I guess you're going 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: to have to join the circus. 110 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: The Russians hated circuses, I guess because I want to 111 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: all frivolity. 112 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: So the way they were going to end the West 113 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: was to blow up a circuses. 114 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: So the nuclear bomb is counting down, like all James 115 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: Bond films, there's the clock counting down, counting down. He's 116 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: got to get into the circus. So he goes into 117 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: a trailer and dresses as a clown on the on 118 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: the screen of the bomb, we see there's two minutes left. 119 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: He's got his watch, he knows there's two minutes left. 120 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: And this is before the world is blown up by 121 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: those Russians. 122 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: But he takes the time to go into a trailer, 123 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: get into full clown makeup. 124 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, while you know it's counting down one hundred and 125 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: twenty second. 126 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: He's got the curly hair, he's got the big pants, 127 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: he's got the hat, he's got the face makeup. He's 128 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: even got the big silly shoes. Bothers to changed into 129 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: a clown, comes in and. 130 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: He's doing and that cock has only moved a little 131 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: bit as well. I I don't know where these baddies from. 132 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: They're all shonky. 133 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: There's something wrong about seeing Bond dressed up as a clown, 134 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: that cool guy he was. 135 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: Also, it's a fifty eight year old man. He looks 136 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: like a fifty eight. Well, he's just a bit confused 137 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: with technology. 138 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: This is what I reckon. They tried to get away 139 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: with it because he's fifty eight in the film, and 140 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: he's obviously not as agile as Bond usually is. A 141 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: lot of the escape scenes is just tricky editing, so 142 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: he'll be trapped in a scenario like he's in the 143 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 3: middle of an Indian jungle, surrounded by all sides from 144 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: the people trying to get him. Just from one moment 145 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: to a next, it will edit and he's out of there, 146 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: swinging through the tees like Tarzan. Honestly, like Tarzan. 147 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: From We Don't need to worry our house with the 148 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: boring admin, you work it out, Jeans, we don't need 149 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: to see it. 150 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: You get yourself out of this mess. 151 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: While he's in India, he dresses as a crocodile to 152 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: swim up to the baddies hideout. This is where you're 153 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: actually not sure if it's a comedy or not. 154 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: The crocodile Ferrell couldn't make a movie as funny as 155 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Roger mar did in Every Bond Outing. 156 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: So the crocodile reaches, the baddies hideout. You don't know 157 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: he's in there yet, and then the crocodile's mouth opens. 158 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: And this guy backgamming crocodile circus clown. 159 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: But I bet it cheered you up yesterday evening it did. 160 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: It actually pulls you through. If anyone wants to watch it, 161 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: it's on stands. As ridiculous was, it was actually enjoyable 162 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: to watch, And I'll give it a seven out of ten. 163 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Christian Connell's Show podcast