1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Sitdown. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Trolope, a writer for ozopen dot com. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: And I'm Viv Christian, managing editor of Australian Tennis magazine and. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Viv why are we sitting down this week with Alex Michelson. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: We're sitting down with Alex Matt because he has had 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: a fantastic season in twenty twenty four. He's reached two 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: ATP finals, cracked the world's top fifty and he's one 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: of the eight young players competing in the ATP next 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Gen Finals this week. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we were lucky enough to catch Alex just 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: a few weeks before he headed off to Jedda. We 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: got him when he was in a training week in 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: California and we got to meet someone who was He 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: was a great talker, he had a really good story, 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: he was really generous with his time, and yeah, we 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: really enjoyed it and learned a lot about him. So 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: we hope you guys do enjoy it too. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: Alex, thank you for joining us on the sit Down. 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: It's great that you're joining us so I think from 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: your home in California, it must be nice to have 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: a week or so off from the tour. 22 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, did. 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: Okay in the last term and over it METS and 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: then I took about ten days off and yeah today 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 4: it has been today's my second day back training. So 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 4: I had to get going pretty quick again because I 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 4: got to go to Saudi Arabia pretty soon, so I 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 4: had to uh had to get started quickly. 29 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: It's been an incredible season for you. You've peaked just 30 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: outside the top forty and I think you're currently sitting 31 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: at number forty two. What's been the highlight for you 32 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: this year. 33 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: It's been a good season, a lot of a lot 34 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: of ups and downs. I know that's a very cliche 35 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: thing to say, but I mean at the clay the 36 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: clay season, I barely wont any matches. 37 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: It was. 38 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: It was tough for me. Even in the grass season, 39 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 4: which I like grass, I didn't do great. And then 40 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: I came back over to America Final than Newport. That 41 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: was that was a highlight. Defending my points and highlighting 42 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: defending my points. And finally was because I final Master 43 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: as well, so that that was that was really good 44 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: for the confidence as well. And then I kind of 45 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: took that had a great American summer record, DC got 46 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: the finals of doubles and Sincy. That was a lot 47 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: of fun. Yeah, I think just the whole American swing 48 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: for me was was was great. I was in Europe 49 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: for three months, so coming back home and playing, playing 50 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: in front of the home crowd was nice to do 51 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: for a while for sure. 52 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 5: Amazing. 53 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: And so as you said, you're about to head to 54 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: jet Up for the next Gen Final. So this is 55 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: the second time you're going, but you, I guess, arrive 56 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: in a bit of a different place in your career 57 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: where it was all new last year and you were 58 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: just inside the top hundred. Now you're where you are 59 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: and you'll be the second set. So yeah, what does 60 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: it mean to qualify for that again? And what will 61 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: you take into into this experience? 62 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well we'll obvious hit the experience of playing 63 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: last year. It's going to help me out this year 64 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: because last year I was you, I just turned prone 65 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: like August, and it all kind of came very quickly 66 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 4: at me and I wasn't ready to perform at a 67 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: stage like that. And I think now you know, got 68 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: a whole year of experience, well a whole year like 69 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: on the main tour to use this experience, and when 70 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: I go to Saturday with this year, so I can 71 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: only do better. I went owing through last year. I 72 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: can only do better this time around. So I'm really 73 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: looking forward to going back and giving it my all. 74 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 4: I have some unfitished busits over there for sure. 75 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: Awesome, and it's got a pretty impressing on a roll 76 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: of champions. So like Sinner El Karez sits a pass, 77 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: they've all won it before. What would it mean for 78 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: you for you to join them potentially. 79 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be He'll be absolutely epic. I mean, 80 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: those guys are all stick at tennis. I mean that 81 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: would be awesome. If I got to put my name 82 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: on that list with them, that would be That means 83 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: I'm doing something right. So I think that would just 84 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: the opposode on honor if I can to put my 85 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: name on that list. 86 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: It's also pretty amazing the names that are kind of 87 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: around you on the Race to Jedda, so that you 88 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: know the twenty one and under list. It's led by 89 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: Art Fees and there's also Yaka Mensig, Jerry Shang Lernati 90 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: and Luca n ash Dua Fonseca like and you, that's 91 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: a pretty cool crop of players that have gotten lots 92 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: of fans excited. 93 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 5: What do you think of this current generation that you're 94 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 5: coming up with. 95 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean everyone you said is is very good. 96 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: I haven't played Fees yet, but obviously I think he's 97 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: what a couple of five hundreds of series playing sick. 98 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: I played Mensik and Jerry I played him in junior's 99 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: actually and on the I haven't played Mensik on the 100 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: main con tour, but I've played. I've played them both 101 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: in juniors plenty of times when they were very, very good. 102 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: And then I just train. I train with Murner. 103 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: I just got done training with them Urdier today, So 104 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: you know that'll be that'll be fun to play that 105 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: and play that. But that'll be interesting if we get 106 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: to play each other, so well, we'll see. But yeah, 107 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: I'm super happy he did that. He's doing great as well. 108 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: You know, he's very close friend for me, so to 109 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 4: see him doing great is amazing. And then fan Seca 110 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: absolutely waxed me in Madrid stuff. 111 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know you can play. So I mean, 112 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: he's gonna be He's gonna be sick. 113 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: He rids me of like a like a mini sitter, 114 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: like he the way he hits the ball is kind 115 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 4: of the say I put them both. The way they 116 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: hit the ball is just you don't. You don't come 117 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 4: by that very often. So yeah, I mean this, uh, 118 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: this group of this group of guys is. 119 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: Uh is good. 120 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough to to do well this year, 121 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: for sure, but I'm looking forward to it. 122 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: Do you see that group of players as your main 123 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: rivals or are you looking at like other people to 124 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: like compare yourself against all that you're targeting like a 125 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: good record against. So I'm not sure how you approach that. 126 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really think of like two many 127 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: people as my rivals just because I haven't played too 128 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 4: many people more than like twice, you know. I mean, 129 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 4: I guess you could say to my arrivals just because 130 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: we're close in age, and I'll probably be seeing plenty 131 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: of these guys for the next ten years, and I'll 132 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: probably play them all, you know, I'll probably play. 133 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 3: Them all like seven times at least. 134 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: So I mean I think now, no, but I think 135 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: in the future that plenty of them will be my rivals. 136 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, Alex. 137 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: It's obviously a pretty exciting time for American tennis right now. 138 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 2: Are you close to to many of the other American 139 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: players on. 140 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 4: Tour, Well, yeah, I would say so. I mean closer 141 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: with them than anyone else. You know, Fritz is also 142 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: from Sokow, so I, you know, hit with them a 143 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 4: little bit when I was like when I was a 144 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: kid and say, just being around I was really cool. 145 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: And now I was four in the world, which is 146 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: which is amazing. I'm glad he's doing so good. And 147 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: then I'm definitely I played doubles with a bunch of 148 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: very like Corda and Mackie. Those guys are great that 149 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: they're all also again and you got Ben who is 150 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: playing great. You got tommyho's playing great, you got Francis. 151 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 4: All those guys are kind of knocking on the door 152 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: for for top ten. They're all like the top fifteen. 153 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: So I think we're our depth is very good right 154 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 4: now as well. We got someone in the top five 155 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: and we have very good depth. I'm like the sixth 156 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: ranks American need and I'm forty two in the world. 157 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: That's not too bad. I think American tennis is doing 158 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: great right now. 159 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: There's actually five men in the world's top twenty five. 160 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: Five American men. I should say, how inspiring is that 161 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: for you? 162 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to see all those guys, you know, 163 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 4: all of my so Americans doing that great, I mean, 164 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: shows I can do it too, right' That's kind of 165 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: the whole point of seeing someone from your country or 166 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 4: your area, you know they do that well and you 167 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 4: kind of look at that and draw inspiration from that. 168 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: I think it's great. 169 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of American tennis, you're currently coached by Robbie Janeprie, 170 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: I believe. So what is that like and what's he 171 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: brought to your game? 172 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, just to be able to draw, you know, 173 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: from someone else's experience. I mean he sent me with 174 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: us open once and he got to I think fourteen 175 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: or fifteen in the world. So be able to draw 176 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: from experience from someone like that is great. And we've 177 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 4: worked on, you know, becoming a little more offensive because 178 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: I'm a pretty big guy. On like, I gotta gotta 179 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 4: play I feel like I move okay and I can 180 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 4: play defense good, but I definitely need to improve in 181 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: the offense because I'm a big guy and I need 182 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: to I need to play some more offense. And he's 183 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: been helping me with that, and yeah, it's been great. 184 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: I've done. I've done pretty well with him, so I'm excited. Yeah. 185 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Has that come naturally, that kind of change where you're 186 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: like forcing yourself to be offensive where you're maybe your 187 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: instinct is to be a bit more defensive. 188 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely have to think about it, you know, 189 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: just you know, consciously think about it all the time. 190 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: At least That's what I've been trying to do in 191 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: practice the last couple of days and you know, months. 192 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: But I feel like sometimes I'm I can drop back 193 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: behind the baseline really easily and just like make a 194 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 4: lot of balls and against the guy, like the top guys, 195 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: it doesn't work because they can all, you know, hammer 196 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: you for that. So I think just knowing that and 197 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 4: being able to, you know, play offense, and I feel 198 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: like I can play offense pretty good, it comes naturally. 199 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: I just I just I feel like a defense comes 200 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: a little more naturally. So I think just just having 201 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: that offensive mindset is the most important thing. 202 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 5: We've got options, which is good. 203 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 204 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 205 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: In terms of how you actually got started in tennis, 206 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: so we understand that both of your parents played college tennis. 207 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Is that kind of how you got introduced to the 208 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: sport and. 209 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 5: It is what you are to die. 210 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I actually don't remember starting to I 211 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: was like three years old, like, and my parents that 212 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: kind of gave me your racket. And I was sitting 213 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: backhands in the garage. All I want to do is 214 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: sit back ends entirely, which that's still what I want 215 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: to do, is sit back ends. But yeah, so I 216 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: was doing that until I was like six years old, 217 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: and then of mom was like, all right, like we 218 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: got to start into four ends and I was like. 219 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 3: No, but yeah, I hit with him. 220 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: My mom a lot if I didn't, you know, I 221 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: ate with her like four or five times a week. 222 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: She she was She made a lot of balls and 223 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: we hit a lot of balls, and that definitely gave 224 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: me a great date for where I'm at right now. 225 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: I definitely wouldn't be here without without her. My dad 226 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: helped you, but he was working, so I didn't, you know, 227 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: play as much with as much as I did with 228 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: my mom. But my parents helped me out tremendously. And 229 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: there's not a chance I'd be here without them because 230 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: they always introduced it and train me when I was younger. 231 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 4: So I mean, there's no way I would be here 232 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: without them. 233 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: And you also considered potentially the college route yourself. But 234 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: as you said, you turned pro relatively recently, so what 235 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: you know that that's a decision that a lot of 236 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: players have to grapple with, and there's you know, bene 237 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: pros and cons to both. 238 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 5: Where how did you land where you landed? 239 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, well the decision I kind of made it to 240 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 4: where it was impossible to go to college. So last 241 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: year I was I started the year at six hundred 242 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 4: and I was, you know, obviously still supposed to go 243 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: to college. 244 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: And then July rules around, I'm like two fifty, and. 245 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: Then I win the Slander in Chicago and then Final Newport, 246 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: and then I was one forty and I had a 247 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: card at a walk current of the US Open. So 248 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 4: at that point I was a no brainer to turn pro. 249 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 4: And you know, that's what I wanted to do, really 250 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: about it. I'm not a big school day, so kind 251 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: of clor got in and to go to school, obviously, 252 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: I think college house. We've been up blast that team 253 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 4: environment sounds sounds amazing, But yeah, going on tours, you know, 254 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: it's always like a child that dreamed I never really 255 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: thought would become true. It was never in the cards 256 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 4: for you growing up at all. I wasn't like one 257 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 4: of these amazing players. So I think just being able 258 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: to experience all this is just an absolute dream come true. 259 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 5: Awesome. 260 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: We read a really interesting piece It was about this 261 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: time last year in tennis dot com by Joel Drucker, 262 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: and so I think he spent a bit of time 263 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: in California with you, watching you train. He mentioned that 264 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: you hit with Lerner a lot, and one of your 265 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: coaches described your game as jumbled, which was an interesting terminology. 266 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess it sounds like it's kind of 267 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: evolved in the twelve months since then, so kind of yeah, 268 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: and you alluded to it was a bit of a 269 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: blend of offense and defense. How would you describe your 270 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: game for someone that actually hasn't seen you play tennis? 271 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 5: And maybe have you like modeled it after someone? 272 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: No, I don't think I modeled that for anyone, But 273 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 4: I mean a year ago, my game was definitely jumbled. 274 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 4: I like I was like six ' four, My stur 275 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: was not good. My foreh end was like average, and 276 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: like back it was like. 277 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: Really good and like I. 278 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: Just I had it was kind of all over the 279 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: place with in terms of like how good you know, 280 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: certain things were, and I feel like I've leveled it 281 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: out and I've got a lot of things better. But 282 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: I think I would describe my game as like all 283 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: core game. I feel like I can do everything. I 284 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 4: can come to the net, I can play offense, play defense. 285 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: You know, I feel like I can. I can kind 286 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: of do it all. I just need to improve, you know, 287 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: all all the aspects. But I feel like I can. 288 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: I can do it. I would say I have an 289 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: aw core game. 290 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: And we also read that in the last year you've 291 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: all you've grown an extra ine, which you know, what, 292 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: what does that mean. I'm not sure if that's true, 293 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: but you said you were six four maybe yeah, but 294 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean that does create an adjustment if you're dealing 295 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: with like, you know, longer levers or bigger heart or whatever, 296 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: when you you know, a year or two ago, you 297 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,239 Speaker 1: weren't so like, Yeah, what is that kind of adjustment 298 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: being like and what's it? What's the advantage of being 299 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: one of the bigger guys on tour. 300 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I've always had pretty long levers. 301 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: I think, you know, that helps a lot with one thing. 302 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: I think and helps a lot with is return, I 303 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: can just get my racking on more balls where you know, 304 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: other guys maybe couldn't because their arms are as long 305 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: like I have very long arms, which which which helps. 306 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: It helps me out a lot. It helps Then the 307 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: doubles cord too, That's one of those that I think, 308 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: I look kay devils. 309 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's definitely it's definitely tough to move when 310 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: you're you know, six three six four. But I feel 311 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: like I've always had pretty long levers, so I I've 312 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: I wasn't there, you know, like short, and then all 313 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: the stuff grew. So I feel like I've gotten used to, 314 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 4: you know, and running around and bringing with the with 315 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 4: the long arms and lovelake. So that hasn't been like 316 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: a big justine for me, but I haven't sorry. 317 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: I have been working on my movement a lot un 318 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: the last year. 319 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: Okay, and your autols listed this guy on one face 320 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: and so we just wanted, what what do you love 321 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: about his game? 322 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the guy is one of the best 323 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: athletes ever play TENNA. I mean the guy's so quick 324 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: and jumps so high. I mean, it was always it 325 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: was always fun to watch him playing like growning out. 326 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: That was just like whenever he's on tee, I would 327 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: like stop doing my homework or whatever it was, and 328 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: like I'd stay up laid to watch and it was 329 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: just absolutely sick. And then I got to meet him, 330 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: and like I've here with him a couple of times. 331 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: It's just absolutely amazing. 332 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was my definitely my favorite to watch for sure. 333 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, does he know that? Have you told him? 334 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I'm a little tighter. 335 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: I I definitely have to tell him because I don't 336 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: know how long he's got He's like thirty seven and 337 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: thirty eight. 338 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't know how much lawer he's got left, So 339 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: I gotta I definitely have to tell him that. 340 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also you alluded to before that you know, 341 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: it's a dream come true being on the Pro Tour 342 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: and this is an amazing opportunity for you. But I 343 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: guess when new players come onto the tour it's an adjustment, 344 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: Like it's it's a grind and it's a long season 345 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: and all of that. So how have you kind of 346 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: juggled that? What do you love about it? What have 347 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: you found challenging or has it mostly been great? 348 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: It's been pretty good. 349 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: I'd say the most challenging part was the clay season 350 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: in Europe, just because I'm from the US and we 351 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: don't really have any clay, and especially in southern California, 352 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: we got no clay out here. 353 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: It's too dry to have clay. 354 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: So I never, you know, played on a growing up, 355 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: and then I went to Europe and I won like 356 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 4: three match, three or four matches in the span of 357 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: like two and a half months. 358 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: So that was mentally tough. But I like traveling, I 359 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: like I. 360 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 4: Like, I like putting into hard work when I'm when 361 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 4: I'm out events, even with like I would lose early 362 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 4: and I'd be with my finished train the next couple 363 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 4: of days, just absolutely grinding, and I enjoyed that. I 364 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: think that was a great growth period for me, both 365 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 4: physically and mentally. But yeah, I love the I love 366 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: the tour. It's it's it's a lot of fun. I 367 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 4: like traveling and seeing the world and something I thought 368 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: I would do, so yeah, I love it. 369 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: Cool. You've already made three ATP finals and in such 370 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: a young career. You must be incredibly proud of that achievement. 371 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got three before I turned folio. I was 372 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: that was that was pretty sick. 373 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: I didn't. 374 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: I never in a million years did I think that 375 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: would happen. But yeah, I'm very proud of myself. I've 376 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: put in a lot of hard work in a lot, 377 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: especially the last like four years. I didn't take tennis 378 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: like I mean, it's like a seriously, but I never, 379 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: you know, like considered this route until like, you know, 380 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 4: probably three years ago when I when I figured that 381 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: maybe I could do this, and. 382 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: I started working really hard about four years ago. 383 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: So just to just knowing all the work I put in, 384 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: you know, behind the scenes, like when no one's really 385 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: seeing and knowing that and making a couple. 386 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: Of finals is just yeah, it feels. It feels great. 387 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: Two of those three finals have come on grass at Newport, 388 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: and you also had success in the Wimbledon Boys doubles 389 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: event a couple of years ago. What is it about 390 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: grass that brings out your best game? 391 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: Well, I think it helps my serve out a little more, 392 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: because my serve, especially end of years, was not good. 393 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 4: But the grass definitely make it, you know, shoot through 394 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: the core a little more and that helps you out. 395 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: And I feel like I returned pretty well. So I 396 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: feel like I can get looks on return. And then 397 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: also my serve is not coming back as much because 398 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: it's on grass, so that's great. And also I feel like, 399 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: especially in Newport, like my backhand just would like doesn't 400 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: come off the ground, and I feel like it's it's 401 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: tough for guys to it was tough for guys to 402 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: manage managers out there, and I also played the greatest. 403 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: I love Newports. It's a great place. So I think, yeah, 404 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm actually really bad at they're getting rid of that. 405 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm gonna do, but but yeah, 406 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: I mean. 407 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: It's absolutely sick and yeah, I'm glad I can make 408 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: the final in the last two times it had it that. 409 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: Wimbledon final a couple of years ago. Did that change 410 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: the course of your career at all, which is how 411 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: you felt about the future. 412 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: Not really just because it was doubles, It wasn't like 413 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: I mean like that was like the best one one 414 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: in my life because that was one of my best friends. 415 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: I grew up with him here in so cal Uh. 416 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: Playing winning with cords and that was an unbelievable time 417 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 4: I could I wish I could go back and relive 418 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: that we saved mass points in the semis like we're 419 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: just absolutely just start. That was like the happiest ever 420 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: been after winning a test term and also it's Wimberlin 421 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: like it was. It was absolutely awesome. But I don't 422 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: think it changed the course of my, like, you know, 423 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: my career because just because it was doubles and like 424 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 4: I lost first round of singles that that I wasn't 425 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: you know, doing great and singles. And I don't think 426 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: it changed changed too much. 427 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: It definitely gave me a little more like a little 428 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: more confidence though, and I think that. 429 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: Helps for sure. Well, speaking of confidence, this here, you've 430 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: had wins over four top twenty players. There's been Alex 431 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: Deminor Taylor, Fritz Stefano sits a pass and he be 432 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: her cats. Was was one of those your biggest win? 433 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: Or do you remember one of those as your best win? 434 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: When I played Demonor and Los Carloss, I absolutely tried 435 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: like I couldn't have played any better. I just I 436 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: went out there. I was seeing the ball like it 437 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: was a great fruit, Like I couldn't miss a ball. 438 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: Like I was just treeing out of my mind. 439 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: That was in terms of level, like my actual level 440 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: like was not where I played way above my actual 441 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 4: level that day for sure. That was sick and then 442 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: beating Fritz is probably those those are the two because 443 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: I mean you and I was like nine in the 444 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 4: world that when I played him in Mexico, and then 445 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 4: Fritz was I think he was top ten when I 446 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: played him. I'm not one hundred percent sure I think 447 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: he was, but I played pretty good and then I gagged. 448 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: I gagged it away. 449 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 4: In the second I was at five to three and 450 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: then had like four match points and then all of 451 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: a sudden it was five all, and then I came 452 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 4: back and like only lost one more point from there. 453 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: That was a good mental effort for me to uh 454 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: to take him down, so that those are definitelyated to 455 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: uh two best wins of the year for me. 456 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 5: We watched The Demon A one in the Office. Do 457 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 5: you remember view we did? 458 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 459 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: It was now timesigme. We were watching Office, Yeah, because 460 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: it was joke I played. 461 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: I just yeah, it was an incredible performance. I was 462 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: also in Shanghai recently where I saw you compete against 463 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic, who took him to two tight tie break sets. 464 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: What's it like to compete against the legend like Novak. 465 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean being on the other side, and that 466 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: is again something else I never thought would happen. And 467 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: uh like when I was just like warm me up, 468 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I mean this is the goat. 469 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: I'm playing the goat, and it's it's pretty intimidating. You know, 470 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 4: that guy's got twenty four slams, like he's got a 471 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 4: gold medal. He's like, he doesn't even like he's won 472 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: everything there is to win, Like what else do you 473 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 4: need to win? Like why are you here? And I 474 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 4: play I'm drying. I'm drawing him second round like now. 475 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: But it was it was absolute incredible And I. 476 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: Got up three to zero in the first set in 477 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: like nine minutes, and I. 478 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 4: Was like and then I kind of realized, oh maybe 479 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: I can win, and then I got a little tight, 480 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: but yeah, playing it was an incredible experience. I get 481 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: to tell my grandkids that I get got to playing 482 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 4: at novet Chak. 483 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: Which just absolutely sick. And then I had some chance. 484 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: I had to said the second set, I should have 485 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: should have won that second set. But I mean he's, 486 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: you know, the most clutched guy that ever played the sport. 487 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: So and also knowing that the back of my head 488 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: makes makes. 489 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: Me even more tight. So it's yeah. 490 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: I was definitely a crazy experience, and I think I 491 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: learned a lot from that one. 492 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you lift against some of the 493 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: bigger names, lift like you play better? 494 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 495 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I have. I feel like I 496 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 4: don't always. I played against the Verev in the third 497 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: round Astra. I didn't play great there, but I feel 498 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: like I I have. I feel like almost like half 499 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: the time I do have time I don't because you know, 500 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 4: you have to beat these guys. 501 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: You know, you have to lift. 502 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: Your level like before I played you know, Demon r 503 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: Fritz or Sissy Pass like, you know, you have to 504 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 4: play well to beat any of these guys. So and 505 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: then going out and executing it like feels great. And 506 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: then sometimes you go out there and you don't execute it, 507 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: and then the guy will just pummel you. So I 508 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: feel like it's kind of dependent on the match for me. 509 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: Sure, we were going to ask you about the Io 510 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: third round run because it's your best Grand Slam results 511 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: so far, and you beat uryla Hechker as well to 512 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: reach there. 513 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: He was a seed like you, How was it? 514 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: You know? 515 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: How do you look at that achievement and was that 516 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: was that a bit of a like a barrier bar 517 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: couldn't getting maybe further into a slam like that? 518 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean I was like on 519 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: the edge. 520 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: I was like ninety ninety five before that event, or 521 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 4: like ninety two or something like that. I remember going 522 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: into that week and played US Train Wildcard first round, 523 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: crazy crowd. I got through that one, which just felt great, 524 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: and then I played pretty well against Lash. I remember 525 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 4: I played a poor first set, and then after that 526 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: I just like locked in and I I and there 527 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 4: was a couple of rain delays which helped me, and 528 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 4: I I just played really really well and then being 529 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: able to win that one that was incredible, and uh 530 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: zero was lost in the third rounder. 531 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: The second rounder, I remember, I. 532 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: Almost got to play like I als got to play 533 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 4: client in the third round, which has been cool. I mean, 534 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 4: but uh players Vere von rod Laver was was incredible, 535 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 4: incredible experience. That was my first time on like a 536 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 4: really good court like that, and I feel like most 537 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: of the crowd was like for me. I think they 538 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: wanted the underdog, and I made a close second set. 539 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: I had like one of the sickest shots in my 540 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: life and the second set breakers ACA a line pass. 541 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: But I was that was an incredible experience. 542 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: I really hope I get to play a Rod Labor 543 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 4: again this time, hopefully not to that means I'll play 544 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 4: like Yannick or Carlos. 545 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: I don't walk, but maybe like like third round again. 546 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, I was an absolutely, absolutely incredible experience playing rather. 547 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a fantastic cold. 548 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: It sounds like you enjoyed the crowds in Australia. How 549 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: do they compare to so say US crowds. 550 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: They're definitely more rowdy. 551 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 4: When I played the Australian Walker, and I mean that 552 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: was my first time again, I was felt like I 553 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: was really really away, like I felt like I was 554 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: in an away game ever not one person and that 555 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: crowd was cheered for me, and uh it was tough. 556 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 4: And I feel like I had that a lot this 557 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: year where the crowd was against me, which which I've 558 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: come to love. I I enjoy it now, but I 559 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 4: remember in that first round of Australia, I was like, 560 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 4: I didn't love it. 561 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: It made it even more tight. But now but now 562 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. 563 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think I maybe I earned their respect 564 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 4: after I did, and then in the second round it 565 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 4: that was pretty even for me go and then I 566 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 4: felt like it was more for me, but yeah, it. 567 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: Was, it was. It was really cool. It was really 568 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 3: cool to experience that. 569 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: I think experiencing that and then seeing they're definitely the 570 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: most rowdy like Australia, maybe the French too, but the 571 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 4: Australians are crazy rowdy. 572 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 3: It was it was nice outas here is fun. 573 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: We love it. 574 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: We're famous for loving and underdogs. So that'll that will 575 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: help explain why you experience love. 576 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, love it. 577 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: So I guess when you said, like, you know, play 578 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: on rod La Arena if you you know you would 579 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: like to avoid Yanni and Carlos and people like that early. 580 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: You can do that by getting a Grand Slam seat. 581 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: And you're actually quite close to being in that bracket. 582 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: What is the now that you've kind of had a 583 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: bit of time on tour and you know the level 584 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: and you see what those top players do, what is 585 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: the difference from going from where you are now at 586 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: forty to like that top thirty two bracket or cracking 587 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: the top twenty. Like it's such small margins at the top, 588 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: so like, what do you think is the key to 589 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: cracking those next barriers. 590 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: I think for me, one of the main things is 591 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: going to be getting a better surf because I'm six 592 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: four and I don't get a ton of free points 593 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 4: off of surf, whereas most other guys that in my 594 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: he do get a lot of free points on surf. 595 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: So I think that is a is a bit component. 596 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: Also playing a little more offensive because against these guys 597 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 4: are not going to give it to you, got to 598 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: take it from them if you want to win. So 599 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: I feel like those are the two main things that 600 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: are that are that need to happen for me. And 601 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: I also think the mental I really kind to believe 602 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 4: that I can be all these guys when I when 603 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 4: I see them in draw. 604 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: So I think those those three things for sure, is. 605 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 5: That belief starting to come. 606 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. 607 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: I I usually go on the court and no matter 608 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: who I'm playing, I tell myself that I could win, 609 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: at least I can. I try to convince myself of 610 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: that because if you because if you don't, if you 611 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: go in you think you're gonna lose, that you're gonna lose. 612 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: So that's what I tell myself. 613 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 4: I definitely tell myself I can win every time I 614 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 4: walk out there. 615 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: Awesome. 616 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: We've spent a lot of these chat talking about kind 617 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: of like you as a tennis player, your career so far, 618 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: your game. What would you like people to know about you, 619 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: maybe like off the court as you as a person. 620 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm crazy competitive on the court, and I'm 621 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: also crazy competitive off the court for whatever it is, 622 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 4: like you, like, I played basketball, it's id a crazy competitive. 623 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 4: I play video games, like, I get really pissed the 624 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: video games, way more piss than I do with tennis. 625 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 4: So I'm crazy competitive with with everything I do. But 626 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: I'm also like, I mean, I hate to say this said, 627 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: but I'm kind of worry. 628 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: I don't do a lot. 629 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: Like I go to practice and at least when I'm home, 630 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: I go to practice most of the day. I come back, 631 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 4: I relax, I you know, play video games, hang out 632 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 4: friends and family, and go and do it again the 633 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: next day. I feel like I kind of live at 634 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: like groundhod day. It's just everything I repeat. So not 635 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: a whole lot going on over here. 636 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: Well, maybe you're under selling yourself because we have we 637 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: were reading in preparation for these interview and we discover 638 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: that you collect coins and you read about history, which 639 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: are pretty hice things like what what how did they start? 640 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: And what kind of like history do you delve into. 641 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 4: Oh, the American history, I love it. I love it 642 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 4: in America. I love I love America. So just reading 643 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 4: about the history and you know how how we came 644 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 4: to be is pretty cool. I don't know, like I 645 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 4: got into it and I was like crazy young, and 646 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 4: I like it's always kind of stuck with it. And 647 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: my my grandfather also fought in World War two and 648 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: my other grandfather fought in the Vietnam War. So I 649 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 4: think having that, you know, connections and definitely made me, uh, 650 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 4: you know, I want to learn more about that. 651 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: And then I also for the coins. 652 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: I never I haven't collected coins since I was like thirteen, 653 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: but I do have like I do have some like 654 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: some cool underlike clause that's for sure. I haven't opened 655 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 4: that thing in my years, but it's I definitely have 656 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 4: some some coins that are probably worth a couple of 657 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: grand now just because they're so old and they're in 658 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: good condition too, so. 659 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: And I was I kind of got there from my brother. 660 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: I remember my brother started doing that when I was 661 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: erk and I just kind of fall in. 662 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 5: So that must have been an old story we read. 663 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: But that's cool. It could have could have it could 664 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 5: have some value. 665 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: Now, Alex, this has been so great, You've been really 666 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: generous with your time. We just wanted to close by asking, yeah, 667 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: like when will we see you down in Australia twenty 668 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: twenty five, like the Australian summer and kind of what 669 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: are your what are your goals going into a new 670 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 1: season which you've started preparing for. 671 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I will be in Brisbane the first threek. 672 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play Brisbane and then and then obviously Melbourne. 673 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: Looking forward to getting down there and start started all 674 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: over again a year. 675 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 3: Two goals for next year. I don't really want to 676 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: say that. 677 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 4: I like keeping it to myself for the most part, 678 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: but I do have some goals I would like to accomplish. 679 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: And yeah, I just got to put in. 680 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 4: The work in this next couple of weeks before before 681 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: next gen and try to get after it. 682 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: Amazing, fantastic, That sounds sounds very exciting. 683 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to get down to Australia. 684 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: I love I love the course down there and it 685 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 4: rise like Australia's lost silver country to America, so that's 686 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: probably why I like it down there. 687 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: I think there's definitely a bit of a crossover between 688 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: like southern California and Australia. Like the Preachers, everyone feels 689 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: really comfortable, so that's that's good. 690 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 5: Will you have to come before Christmas though, No. 691 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna go home after Saturday. 692 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go home back to California for a couple 693 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 4: of days, part of four five days to spend it 694 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: with my. 695 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: Family, and then I will and then I will head 696 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: down to Britain. 697 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: Fantastic. We look forward to seeing you come this summer, 698 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: so thank you so much for your time today. 699 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll find see you guys in Melbourne. 700 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: Now, Yeah you will? 701 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: You will? 702 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, definitely. 703 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: Oh cool. 704 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: Well, I really do hope that we have a chance 705 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: to talk to Alex in person after such a great interview. 706 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: Map. 707 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be great to see him, I guess 708 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: before he comes to Australia, which is super exciting. We'll 709 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: see I think from Wednesday when the Next Gen Finals starts. 710 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: How he progresses. And I really enjoyed the part of 711 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: the chat where he talked about kind of his contemporaries 712 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: and rivals that are in that field. It's a pretty 713 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: amazing group that are coming up. And that reference to 714 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: Juel Fonseca hitting a ball like Yannick Sinner like, there's 715 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: a lot of exciting stuff about this generation to look 716 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: forward to. And so yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing 717 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: both Alex and all of them when they come to 718 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: come to Melbourne January. 719 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Alex is actually the number two seed at 720 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: the tournament and he has he's come so far since 721 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: he played that event last year as well, So I 722 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 2: think we'll see a lot of progress for him, and 723 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: you know who knows he We've got Yannick Sinners to 724 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: find us, sits a Pass, Carlos Alcoraza, some of the 725 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: names that are won that tournament. So let's see who 726 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: comes next. 727 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: Well, thanks again for joining us for this episode, and 728 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: we'll be back next week with another episode of The 729 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: sit Down when we bring you our interview with Sumitt Nogal. 730 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, you can join John and Brie 731 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: and the team for this Thursday's episode of The AO 732 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: Show Weekly. 733 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: Please remember to subscribe, rate and review. See you next week, 734 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: mat see you then, bib