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Speaker 1: Clearsy and Lisa's how to make it in wap in

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Speaker 1: this Sun and I'll make you a start.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're very excited in you today because we've got

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Speaker 2: Sam Desmond, who is a stunt man.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, and you just came in through the door.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say I was disappointed, but maybe

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Speaker 2: you'll leave through the window. I had to know, Sam,

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Speaker 2: it's very exciting to have you in here as part

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Speaker 2: of our series that we've been, you know, diving down

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Speaker 2: a rabbit hole because so much is happening here recently,

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Speaker 2: York being in runt But I've never met a stunt man,

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Speaker 3: When you're at a dinner party or whatever.

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Speaker 4: What do you do cool gig?

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Speaker 2: I'm in film, which is already a really cool answer,

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Speaker 2: and then I'm a stunt man.

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Speaker 4: That's right, it is. My missus usually takes over the

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Speaker 4: conco that's right. You just back off a bit exactly.

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Speaker 5: I always get what's the most dangerous stunt that you yes,

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Speaker 5: full body, fire, burned with no mask gel.

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Speaker 4: You get a ready made answer. That's pretty much the.

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Speaker 5: Most dangerous, and my favorite is a four story header,

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Speaker 5: which is headfirst into an airbag.

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Speaker 4: Yes, story is high. Yeah, so they are my two favorites.

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Speaker 4: What do you like with heights? You're okay? Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 5: Well, when I was younger, I used to have a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I loved it. So I sorted it out,

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Speaker 4: solved it. Yeah, face the fears head on, Yeah, head on.

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Speaker 2: As you said, when you did that head on out

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Speaker 5: Behalf of Oh that was for the training actually really yeah,

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Speaker 5: exactly at the Stunt Academy in Queensland.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you want to go to get most of your training.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what they do with the shows, you know,

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Speaker 5: They used to have it at the Wild West in Yes, yeah, Queensland,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell us about the Stunt Academy then, what I mean,

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Speaker 2: what was it like a day in you know, stunt school.

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Speaker 4: All sorts of stunts. You get a taste of everything.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, car hits to basic body control, high falls, fireburns. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: how to land. How to land, that's the main main

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Speaker 1: There was a time in the seventies and eighties it

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Speaker 4: He was doing stunts for everything in Hollywood. He's still around,

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Speaker 5: Well, Jackie Chan and Tom Cruise obviously they do, so

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Speaker 5: at car crashes absolutely.

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Speaker 5: Death Proof was one of his movies with Quinton Tarantino,

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Speaker 3: Was that your favorite thing to do? Like car? Because

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Speaker 4: Most of the injuries I did was before I became

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Speaker 2: And most people on set, I mean, Tom Cruise is

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Speaker 1: If I've been working on funding for ten years on

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Speaker 4: Wanted to fall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, you probably hurt yourself less than the average

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Speaker 4: I have a profession. I said.

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Speaker 1: It always makes me overways curious because I'm a nerd

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Speaker 5: You're watching so much now I've always been a film lover,

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Speaker 5: But there are times when it's like, ah, that's a

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Speaker 4: And do your own stunts, not just double other people.

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Speaker 3: I'm a continuity nerd.

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Speaker 5: Well, one of my recent films was Late Night with

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Speaker 4: And as it happened. Yet so I had a green

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Speaker 2: How excited are you for what's been happening in w

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Speaker 3: The industry is this is the happening time.

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Speaker 5: So hopefully it'll attract a lot more people back home

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Speaker 2: And we're making all genres of movies now too, which

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Speaker 5: Definitely, lots of comedy that usually has the most stunts

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a car chase from some of

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Speaker 4: Particularly car chases. Yeah, they're the best.

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Speaker 5: Oh, definitely, there will be places for us to train

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Speaker 4: Want to see car chase Alexander drive into my lagger

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Speaker 4: like the Blues Brothers.

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Speaker 2: I saw one recently, but I don't think it was sanction.

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Speaker 2: So what's your advice to someone thinking I'm going to

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make my move today.

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Speaker 5: The main thing is you need twelve months worth of

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Speaker 5: body control, so some sort of fighting, martial arts, gymnastics. Okay,

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Speaker 5: that's definitely going to help you go towards your training,

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Speaker 5: a coordinator. And then once you've got your grading, then

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Speaker 5: you're able to work on films.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, have you seen the Dev Patel movie that

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Speaker 1: came out this year called Monkey Man?

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Speaker 3: Monkey Man?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's brutal. It's like one long flight

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Speaker 4: scene for two.

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Speaker 3: Hours, one long fight.

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Speaker 4: Incredible, but it's like the raid.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, pretty full on definitely, But some of the

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Speaker 1: times ridiculously on for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sam, thanks for coming in today.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be I'm looking for you out out

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Speaker 2: of the Green Sock now every movie that I see

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Speaker 2: how to make it in w way as a stunt man.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks for all the best. Cheers,