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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Kate Sanderson was thirty six when she was caught in

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Speaker 2: a wildfire while running the Kimberly Ultra Marathon alongside to reapit.

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Speaker 2: Kate received burns to sixty percent of her body and

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Speaker 2: was put it in an induced coma for nineteen days,

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Speaker 2: but thanks to two different organ donors, Kate was given

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Speaker 2: a second chance at life to talk about all things

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Speaker 2: organ donation and all things Kate Sanderson. She joins us. Now, Hello, Kate, Hi,

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Speaker 2: thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you on, Kate.

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Speaker 2: Kate, how do you feel when you when we ask

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Speaker 2: you to look back at that day? Is this is

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Speaker 2: it still trauma for you? Or have you packaged it up?

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Speaker 1: It's not traumatic at all. It's I remember everything, I

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Speaker 1: can talk about it. I don't get emotional at all.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's very lucky.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you don't mind me asking, can you talk

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Speaker 2: us through that day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely so. Myself and Will running in the Kinderly

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Speaker 1: oldtra Marathon and many you would know Teria and we

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Speaker 1: were about twenty five kilometers into it and we came

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Speaker 1: across Inner Gorge and I was running with a friends

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Speaker 1: and I didn't know Karia at that time, and we

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Speaker 1: looked up and there was fire funneling towards us, and

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Speaker 1: it was still two hundred meters away. And I'm embarrassed

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Speaker 1: to say that I took out my camera and took

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Speaker 1: photos of it. It's like, oh, wow, there's a fire

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Speaker 1: up ahead, and it's not until it started really fast

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Speaker 1: it was coming towards us that there was sort of

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Speaker 1: six of us run as we bunched up and started

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Speaker 1: talking about what we're going to do, and we didn't

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Speaker 1: have maps for GPS's or anything, because that was a

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Speaker 1: criteria of the race. So one of the walls of

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Speaker 1: the gorge was tall, so we couldn't climb up that.

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Speaker 1: So the options were run back in front of the fire,

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Speaker 1: see if there was a road or some escape route.

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Speaker 1: So meter of which you're supposed to do, you're never

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Speaker 1: supposed to run up. But that's what the six of

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Speaker 1: us chose. And unfortunately, as we're getting up the heel,

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Speaker 1: the why I hit the heel and as you know,

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Speaker 1: it goes fast uphill, and yeah, four of us ended

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Speaker 1: up getting burned.

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Speaker 2: You're in a coma for nineteen days. So as you

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Speaker 2: say you remember everything you went from being on that

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Speaker 2: hill to then waking up in hospital.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I woke up in the Alfred and I

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Speaker 1: believe Teraria went to the Concorde in New South Wales

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Speaker 1: and yeah, absolutely that was one thing to survive the fire,

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Speaker 1: but it was like a four year recovery afterwards.

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Speaker 3: And you received donated skin from two different donors. I

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Speaker 3: didn't even know that you could donate skin.

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Speaker 1: I know. I feel so ignorant as well, because it

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Speaker 1: didn't occur to me till a couple of years after

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Speaker 1: my accident, and my skin was an organ. So absolutely

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Speaker 1: I received two donors and they basically gave me a

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Speaker 1: second chance of life. Because burns patients one of the

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Speaker 1: leading causes of death is infections to close open wounds,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't have enough good skin on me to

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Speaker 1: be able to close my own wounds. So I had

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Speaker 1: good skin on my torso and so they could take

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Speaker 1: the skin off there, but then they had to wait

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Speaker 1: two weeks for it to grow back to harvest another round.

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Speaker 1: So it would have taken months to close my wounds

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Speaker 1: had it not been for the donors.

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Speaker 2: How do you go about donating skin?

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Speaker 1: Well, I believe it's the same as organ donation. When

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Speaker 1: you register, you register and you can select I think,

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Speaker 1: what you want to donate, or you can select everything,

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Speaker 1: and skin is included.

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Speaker 2: As far as I know, does it come from a

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Speaker 2: living donor.

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Speaker 1: No, I believe it's not. I don't actually know, but

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, a personal skin.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not necessarily like that someone's walking around with

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Speaker 3: no skin.

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily that. But I've done stories with beyond two

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Speaker 2: thousand where they can make synthetic skin from actual skin cells.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how much I need.

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Speaker 3: It, Kate. I've got a bit of skin left over

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Speaker 3: skin hanging around.

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Speaker 1: I'll grab it. I'll grab it this old bull bag.

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Speaker 3: After that's the last thing, Kate, Kate.

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Speaker 2: Organ donations begin my family. My nephew had a liver

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Speaker 2: transplant as a baby. And as we're saying, when you

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Speaker 2: think of organ donation, you don't think of skin. But

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Speaker 2: what an incredible survival story thanks to generous donus for you, Kate.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. Like I was a donut in my

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Speaker 1: twenties and I got my little card, and I thought

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Speaker 1: I was all grown up. I found my card suddenly

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Speaker 1: enough a couple of years ago and I've written on

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Speaker 1: the back of it please take nothing off my face. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now I'm fine, take what you want. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: so easy to register. It's just literally, I believe it's

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Speaker 1: on the my galve app or the Medicare app. It's

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Speaker 3: Reading about it. Yeah, you just go. You register as

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Speaker 3: an organ and tissue donut because you've got to do

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Speaker 3: that these days. You can't just put it on your

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Speaker 3: license like I had on my license.

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Speaker 2: No, you have to actively READI go to donate.

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Speaker 3: Life dot gov dot au and with three taps on

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Speaker 3: your Express plus Medicare app.

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Speaker 2: But also tell your loved ones because so that they

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Speaker 2: know in a crisis moment that those are your wishes.

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Speaker 2: It's also important. And Kate, you're in good health now.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, I'm loving life. I'm getting back into

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Speaker 1: you know, most things, I can't run, but I can

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Speaker 1: fill my weekends and life with sport and all the

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Speaker 1: things I love to do. So everything's great.

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Speaker 3: I think the running's done.

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Speaker 1: You just be like, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That'll do me, that'll do yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe you take a windsurfing, Kate, yeah, or

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Speaker 3: chair something. Well, that's great. Thank you for joining us Kate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Kate Sanderson there