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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the

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Speaker 1: time poor parent who just once answers Now before we

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Speaker 1: dive into our conversation today, Kylie's to sell out this weekend.

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Speaker 1: We're heading off to Adelaide for the Resilient Kids Conference,

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Speaker 1: the final one of the year. Something like six hundred

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Speaker 1: people all set to meet us in Modbury, Me, Maggie Dan,

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Speaker 1: Karen Young and the wonderful Michelle Mitchell talking about raising

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Speaker 1: resilient kids. And you're coming with me so that we

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Speaker 1: can talk resilience. If you're in Adelaide, we can't wait

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Speaker 1: to see you tomorrow. Now it's a Friday, which means

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Speaker 1: i'll do better. Tomorrow is on the menu, Kylie, I

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Speaker 1: think that you should start first. You've had some time

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Speaker 1: away and let me with the kids. You let me

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Speaker 1: look after all those children.

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Speaker 2: And all those children and work full.

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Speaker 1: Time and cook and clean and iron and run kids

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Speaker 1: too and from school and to and from extra career

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Speaker 1: for activities. You've been gone for a little over a week.

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Speaker 1: You've come home and.

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Speaker 2: Guess what the house is trash? For the house is.

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Speaker 1: Trash because we've decided that we don't have enough space,

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Speaker 1: and so we're losing our garage and turning it into

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Speaker 1: some rooms, so that's why it's trashed. Well, let's be real,

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Speaker 1: We're alive. That's what I was going to say. We're alive.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's happy, everyone's fed, everybody survived.

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Speaker 2: The reason we're running out of space is because we've

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Speaker 2: got a grand baby coming. Yeah. Yeah, So making room

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Speaker 1: Not that the grandchild is going to be living at

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Speaker 1: our house, no, but she's keeps you out of your

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Speaker 1: I've lost my office, so we need to take the

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Speaker 1: office home. Anyway, today, I'll do better tomorrow. Since you

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Speaker 1: have not had to do any parenting for ten days,

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Speaker 1: ten days, I don't know what you're going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: I'm very curious to know what you're going to say

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Speaker 1: that's going to help people know how you'll be a

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Speaker 1: better parent since you haven't been here.

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Speaker 2: So at the beginning of the year, I made some

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Speaker 2: pretty big goals about things that I want to do

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Speaker 2: rewrite some kind of mental scripts that I've carried around

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Speaker 2: for a lot longer than I should have, and it

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Speaker 2: just got me thinking about how so many times the

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Speaker 2: thoughts that we have limit our ability to do and

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Speaker 2: be the person that we could and can be. So

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Speaker 2: for the last week, I've attended a conference. I caught

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Speaker 2: an aeroplane all by myself. I haven't done any of

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Speaker 1: Not just an aeroplane an international flight with transfers overseas

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Speaker 2: Was a big deal, And for about the week leading

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Speaker 2: up to it, I definitely was struggling with anxiety around it.

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Speaker 2: I was pretty nervous and pretty worked up about having

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Speaker 2: to do all of this. But after saying goodbye to you,

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Speaker 2: everything for me. She was amazing, And from that moment

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Speaker 2: And yet I have spent so long thinking this was

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Speaker 2: going to get lost and I wouldn't know what to do,

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I kind of realized that

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Speaker 2: scared to try. And as I've thought about all of

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Speaker 2: the other things that I've started doing, art classes and

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Speaker 2: me now as a result of me being willing to

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Speaker 2: confront that there might be some thoughts that I have

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Speaker 2: new experiences. Is electrifying, Like it's so exciting. I spent

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Speaker 2: I found myself interacting with people that I've never spoken

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Speaker 2: things that I'm striving to do to open myself up

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Speaker 2: to new opportunities. I got confirmation throughout the week as

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Speaker 2: I'm doing the things that i need to to. Kind

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Speaker 2: of you, I have this amazing life. There's lots of

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Speaker 2: work to do, and there's definitely I brought home lots

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Speaker 2: this idea that a thought is just a thought. It's

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Speaker 2: the emphasis we put on that thought that changes everything.

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Speaker 2: And if I can learn this now, hopefully I can

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Speaker 2: help our children to recognize and understand that their thoughts

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Speaker 2: literally are the first step to where they end up.

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Speaker 2: And if we can get that thoughts right from the beginning,

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Speaker 2: how different life will be if they can be open

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Speaker 2: to new opportunities and don't judge themselves harshly because they

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Speaker 2: feel afraid to fail. I think that's a huge one

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Speaker 2: for me. I've been so scared to fail. What that

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Speaker 2: is ask a question. If I get stuck, people want

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Speaker 2: to help. Yeah they did, and they were They were amazing.

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Speaker 2: They didn't look at me and go, You're such an idiot.

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Speaker 2: Why are you asking that? It's so obvious, there's the

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Speaker 2: sign or whatever. They were just so ready to help.

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Speaker 1: But from a parenting point of view, this applies as well,

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Speaker 1: because our kids off and panic and think I can't

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Speaker 1: do it. It's too big. The challenges in front of me

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Speaker 1: apply for mums who are having brand new adventures. I

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Speaker 2: As well totally. And I feel like I can be

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Speaker 1: So what does this mean for you? What does this

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Speaker 2: I really think it's about helping our children recognize because

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Speaker 2: of the example we set that it's okay, number one,

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Speaker 2: to not have all the answers, That it's okay to

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Speaker 2: to trying it again. Like it just it works into

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Speaker 2: every facet of our lives. That for me personally, it's

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Speaker 2: helping our kids recognize that their thoughts are so influential

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Speaker 1: Here's my question for you, as we transition into my

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Speaker 1: I'll do better tomorrow, at what point is the food

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Speaker 1: that's on the table no longer fair game. What I

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Speaker 1: mean by that is, let's say we're having a roast

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Speaker 1: me to assume that that food is now mine and

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Speaker 1: that nobody's going to touch it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is a bit of a loaded question.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to suggest that it should be saying.

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Speaker 1: It should be So what I really want to know

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Speaker 1: is at what point is it is it truly mine?

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Speaker 1: Does it need to be on my plate or does

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Speaker 1: it need to be on my fork? Or does it

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Speaker 2: I would say, based on where you're taking this conversation,

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Speaker 2: that it's probably need to be in your belly, for

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Speaker 2: it's technically yours. What happened while I was gone?

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Speaker 1: So I've cooked this roast. It was such a great

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Speaker 1: lamb roast, and we've got all the vegetables on the table.

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Speaker 1: We have one daughter who is, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you're talking about this. I lived student life.

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Speaker 2: I was eating rations for days. We have telling me

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Speaker 1: It was so good. So here's the thing, this daughter

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Speaker 1: a little of a sweet potato, but one potato left.

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Speaker 1: And I see that potato in the bowl, and before

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Speaker 2: You started it, it wasn't her.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have time to pick up my fork. So

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Speaker 1: with my right hand, I'm trying to hold her hand

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Speaker 2: You would never have done that if I was home.

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Speaker 1: And I've pulled the potato out as she's doing everything

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Speaker 1: she can to get that fork into the potato, even

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Speaker 1: though it's in my hand. It's in my hand, it's

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Speaker 1: now in my possession. It can't be fair game anymore.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Then, and then I put them, but you interfered regardless.

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Speaker 1: The potato is then placed by my hand onto my plate.

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Speaker 2: Well you asked for it, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And as I pick up my fork to put it

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Speaker 2: You asked for it, And I want.

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Speaker 1: To know is that fair or is that unfair? Because

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Speaker 1: I think she deserved every morese I expect a little

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Speaker 1: bit of support. And what are you saying that the

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Speaker 1: be on your plate.

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Speaker 2: But if somebody is going towards it and you physically

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Speaker 2: interfere and stop them, then it's not yours.

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Speaker 1: It's this I've had. This is actually kind of hard

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Speaker 1: for me to talk about, but I'm going to put

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Speaker 1: it out there anyway. I've had the best week. I've

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Speaker 1: missed you incredibly, and we need you in our lives.

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Speaker 2: But yes, my house, jeph Not says, I can't.

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Speaker 1: This is the builders and the renovators. You can't sort

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Speaker 1: Here's my point. Dad's involvement and Mum's involvement, slowing it down,

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Speaker 2: Have a happy family.

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