1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Is your favorite takeaway meal at Indian Curry? Do you 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: love whipping up a Tika masala in your kitchen like 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Master Chef? There is a growing range of curry sauces 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: in the supermarkets, and today we are going to review 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: two popular Tika masala sauces just for you. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Hi. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm Susie Burrow. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: And I'm Leanne Wood, and we bring you. 9 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: The Nutrition Couch, a bye weekly chat on everything you 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: can find in the supermarket and our very honest reviews 11 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: of some of our listeners much love products. So Leanne Curry, 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: is it your favorite order when you get some cheeky 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: uber eats? 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: No, I just I always feel sick after eating it, 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: and I think it's because I have a little bit 16 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: of a sensitive gut. I just find it very very rich. However, 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: David loves Indian as a cuisine and to order, so 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: he gets very upset because I never let him have it. 19 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: Whenever we go and you get someats, I always be 20 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: too honesty. We're not having that because I can't eat it, 21 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: and I'll feel sick tomorrow and you'll have to deal 22 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: with me tomorrow. So the poor guy probably hasn't had 23 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Indian takeaway in years. But I do like that there 24 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: are a growing range of sort of sources where you 25 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: can make your own at home. You can sort of 26 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: balance it out a little bit more. But is curry 27 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: is something that you love? Is it a go to 28 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: in your household? SUSI? 29 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh, it's so funny because when I was growing up, 30 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: my parents would routinely have curry nights, so they would 31 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: have their friends over. They would have the little bowls 32 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: of coconut and banana and pumpams. It was a massive 33 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: social occasion. And I have to be honest, I'm a 34 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: very plain eater, as I've shared before. I like, really, 35 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, a piece of salmon and vegetables. I don't 36 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: mind like a tie kind of curry. But it's certainly 37 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: something I don't make regularly at home. But like you, 38 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: my husband loves it and as soon as he gets 39 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: my parents around her, if I'm not here, they will 40 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: always whip out for a curry. So I'm a bit 41 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: of the limiting factor. We won't disagree, but we should 42 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: say that we know you guys listening love this because 43 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: when Lee and I said to Leana, we really doing 44 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: curry and she said, yeah, it's really popular we've had 45 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: several regrets for it, so it's our job to bring 46 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: you the information. So we've got two pre made sources 47 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: in the supermarket because we know you guys enjoy it. 48 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: So the first one we're going to talk about today 49 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: is that. And if I'm pronouncing these names wrong, please 50 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: forgive me, am I saying it correct? Per Tax is 51 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: that right? 52 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: I think it's tax? 53 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: I think pat tax and tika masala. That's how you 54 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: say it, isn't it. 55 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. 56 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: So this is a source found just in the supermarket. 57 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: It's actually made in the UK, which is interesting because 58 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: one of my best friends is from the UK and 59 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: she also loves a curry, so it probably doesn't surprise 60 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: me so much to see one of these products comes 61 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: from overseas. So if we look at the ingredients, the 62 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: first ingredients water tomatoes fifteen percent, yoga five percent, so 63 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: on the whole, it's even starting out looking pretty clean, 64 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: some concentrated tomato, pure vegetable oil, cream, may starch, and 65 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: then it goes down into a lot of spices and thickness, 66 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: which admittedly will be in very small amounts given that 67 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: the next ingredients only fifteen percent tomatoes and five percent yogurt. 68 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: It's very low in calories leane, you know, per serve. 69 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: It says, is it one serve per jar? No, how 70 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: much is that jar? 71 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: Three? 72 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Four serves per jar? Just under one hundred calories, one 73 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: point protein, only five point three grams of fat coming 74 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: from a little bit of the yogurt and cream, but 75 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: still low in saturated fat. Eight point one grams of carbohydrate, 76 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: four point five grams of sugars, which I hastened to 77 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: say it would be mainly from the tomatoes. Is that 78 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: ingredient sodium. 79 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of added sugar a little. 80 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Bit not so much though, because that's cream three percent, 81 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: so the main start is going to come in under 82 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: three percent. So overall pretty low. Three one hundred and 83 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: thirty milligrams of sodium, which is an insignificant for that 84 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: smaller portion. But really this hasn't got a huge amount 85 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: in it other than a bit of tomatoes and spices, 86 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: so on the whole, you know, I think that it 87 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: doesn't really contain so much at all. I don't think 88 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: there's anything really wrong with it. If a client brought 89 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: that to me, I wouldn't have any real concerns with it. 90 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think. Maybe I'm not 91 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: taking the sauces seriously enough. I just would say to them, 92 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't have really much in it. And if you're 93 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: using it as serves four as described on the label, 94 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: there wouldn't be an issue. But if you started to 95 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: make it serves just too you'd be getting a fe 96 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: whacka sodium. But if you're doing it with lean meat 97 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: and some brown, hopefully brown whole grain rice, you know 98 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: it's adding some flavor. Sure it could be a little 99 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: bit cleaner, but on the whole, there's not a whole 100 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: lot wrong with it. I don't know, what do you think? 101 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: And I think this is quite amusing because when I 102 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: put these two products together, Susie, I actually chose to 103 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: patax one as the quote unquote bad one. I didn't 104 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: even really read the nutrition. I just grabbed it off 105 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: the shop. I thought, I'll try this and then I'll 106 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: I'll pop it up there. And I'm sure that you know, 107 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: it looks too sort of decadent to be like healthy, 108 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. So it's actually a really good option, 109 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: and it's quite I sort of chose it as the 110 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: one where I'm like, no, there's definitely a better option 111 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: on the market, and the second one we're reviewing that 112 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: from a marketing perspective, you would look at the front 113 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: I pack label and that and say, you know, that's 114 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: the better option. That's a lower calorie option, that's a 115 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: cleaner option. And so I actually find it quite amusing 116 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: that this is actually not a bad option. So I'd 117 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 2: be more than happy for my clients to use something 118 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: like this, as you said, with a bit of whole 119 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: grains or legumes to bulk it out, some lean protein 120 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: and a ton of edgies. I think where we would 121 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: run into problems if we're just doing this with some 122 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, chicken thie with some meat or something and 123 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: white rice and then maybe a little sprinkle of you know, 124 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: I don't know, some brocoli or something on the side. 125 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: That's where we'd run into troubles if we're not using 126 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: it as part of a balanced meal. So I really 127 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: do feel like it comes down to what you pair 128 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: it with. But this as a source in terms of 129 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: something that you might get, you make this yourself at 130 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: home versus you ordering in like an Indian curry, this 131 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: would be a lot healthier and a lot better long term, 132 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: I think, particularly because a lot of our Indian takeaway 133 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: is quite westernized in Australia as well. It's not like 134 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: what you would get if you went to Indian ordered 135 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: sort of a dicker missile up the street. It's definitely 136 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: not the same thing. I think a lot of times 137 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: in restaurants we use a hell of a lot more 138 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: oil and yogurt and cream in them. Whereas I like 139 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: that the top two ingredients in this water tomatoes followed 140 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: by yogurt. It's not you know, vegetable oil or cream 141 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: at the top, which I think is really really important. 142 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: And I think that's why I actually don't tolerate take 143 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: away you know Indian that well, Susie is because it 144 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 2: is so high and fat and it is so greasy. 145 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: I just don't digest or do well with too much fat. 146 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: So I actually think this is quite a good product, 147 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: And as you said, it would add a lot of 148 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: flavor to meals, and if you didn't want to make 149 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: it into more of a curry, you could just choose 150 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: maybe a tablespoon off there's over the top of some veggies, 151 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: just to get a little bit of extra flavor. I 152 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: think that would go down really well as well. 153 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: And one of the most common questions I have when 154 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I've seen a new client is what can I put 155 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: on my vegetables to flavor them up? And my general 156 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: rule of thumb is I don't care what you add 157 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: to the vegetables as long as you eat them, So 158 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I'd be very happy if people were 159 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: using this kind of sauce to flavor out vegetables, and 160 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. My biggest feedback to clients when 161 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: talking about Indian cuisine is the quality of the protein, 162 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: so making sure it is chicken breast, for example, not 163 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: the fatty chicken thigh or drumsticks, or in the case 164 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: of having things with it, you know, if you're having 165 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: potatoes plus pomp and arms plus white rice, it's all 166 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: processed carbohydrate, whereas if you can stick to the veggie 167 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: based carbs are a very small amount of brown rice, 168 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: it will improve the overall profile of that meal. But 169 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm just having a quick look at these sources, Lee, 170 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: and because again I'm not overly familiar. This retail is 171 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: at about four dollars. It's on sale this week at 172 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: Willie's when we're recording but dollars pajar. But you do 173 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: have to be careful because I'm just having a look 174 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: now at one of the other popular products, which is 175 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: the butter chicken. I know butter chickens very popular, and 176 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: when I look this is the same brand. When I 177 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: look at this nutritional the first ingredient's water followed by 178 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: vegetable ge. So for me, that's a big concern because 179 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Gee is going to give a high saturated fat, so 180 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: that's coming in at four gram saturated per serve. So 181 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: I would certainly be opting for products like this Ticka 182 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Masala which is a vegetable based rather than a fat base. 183 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: And that's probably another take home message for people when 184 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: you're buying pre made sauces, particularly that a curry or 185 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Indian flavor, making sure you're choosing the veggie based options 186 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: rather than ones that have that creamy base, because that 187 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: inevitably will be adding a lot of saturated fat, as 188 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: is the case with this one that's the butter chicken 189 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: compared to the Ticka Masala, which is the tomato based. 190 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: So it does pay to have a quick scan of 191 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: that ingredient list and just make sure you're getting more 192 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: of the veggies rather than the fat which can be 193 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: very present in Indian que. 194 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: And definitely and just from an allergen perspective to wrap 195 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: us up, this one is green light for our Celiacs. 196 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: No detectable gutin, but it does obviously contain milk because 197 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: it does have that yogurt and cream in there as well. 198 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: So not a vegan based option, but is okay from 199 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: our Celiac point of view. And there's an allergen statement 200 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: maybe present tree nuts, so that's just something to be 201 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: aware of as well if you have aligins in the family. 202 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: And so the second product we're looking at is one 203 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: of the more boutique products. It's not in a japers say, 204 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: they're in the pouches, and certainly in Asian cuisine we 205 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: see the pouches, which we would want to say, as 206 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: a rule of thumber slightly better nutritionally, but not always. 207 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: This is the spice tailor, again I haven't seen it myself, 208 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: which is called the original Tika Masala, so a direct 209 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: comparison to a product, this one comes from India. The 210 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: first ingredient is thirty five percent onion, twenty seven percent 211 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: tomato pure milk curd, water, some flowl oil, butter, rice, flour, garlic, salt, ginger, 212 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: red chili powder, cashew nuts, and then a whole lot 213 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: of spice. Is very similar to the per tax one. 214 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: We've just had a look out. There's a lot of 215 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: ingredients on here. When I have a look at the 216 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: nutritionals per hundred grams serve one hundred and fifty calories, 217 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: two point two grams of protein, eight point seven grams 218 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: of fat, says per serving hundred Yeah, so a bit 219 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: higher in fat this one. Saturated fat's still less than 220 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: three percent at two point three seven point six grams 221 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: of sugar, again not insignificant, one point six grams of 222 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: fiber and six hundred and twenty milligrams of sodium. So 223 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: I think for Melian it's reasonably similar. If I had 224 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: to choose nutritionally one I prefer, I probably would slightly 225 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: err towards the per tax one. But given it's kind 226 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: of the same product, it's sort of splitting hairs, I 227 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: think this one is probably more expensive. 228 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: Let me have a quick chat it is. 229 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, have you tried Have you tried this brand before? 230 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: In any product? 231 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: I've tried both, and I honestly think I think the 232 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: taste is fairly similar. I actually think the Patax gives 233 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: a little bit of a better mouthfeel. So because it 234 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: is a it's cheaper, but it is lower in overall 235 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: fat content and lower in overall galleries, and I personally 236 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: think it had a better taste and a better mouthfeel. 237 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: I would actually lean more towards the pa tax one, 238 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: which really surprises me because I really thought that I would. 239 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: I would sort of go o for more the spliced 240 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: tailor one because, as you said, generally, in terms of pouches, 241 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: you can see the visible herbs and splices in there, 242 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: so it looks like a lot more of a whole 243 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: food based product. But when you actually look at the 244 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: ingredients and the nutrition facts, and what it really comes 245 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: down to is that actually they're quite similar products. So 246 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: from a price and a lower calorie perspective, I would 247 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: probably go more for the pa tax one if I 248 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: was being honest, and I think it did taste slightly, 249 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: but they were both quite enjoyable if I was being honest, 250 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: they both had really nice flavors on this one. 251 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: You're right, this retails for two dollars more almost six 252 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: dollars per serve. Versus the Pertax, which is only four 253 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: for four serves. This is two to three serves per pack. 254 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm just having a look at another one in the 255 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: range to see if it's the same situation and the 256 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: creamy ones are the ones to kind of avoid. But yeah, 257 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: I think the first one is slightly better. But I 258 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: think the other take home message is that we get 259 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about package sauces because I think 260 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: we sort of put a sweeping statement that, you know, 261 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be using packet sources at all and their process. Now, 262 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: I think for ease, if you had to go lean 263 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: and buy every one of those ingredients that's required to 264 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: make a delicious ticker masala, I would hasten to guess 265 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: that that's going to cost at least thirty dollars. By 266 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: the time you buy the fresh produce all of those 267 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: individual spices, without even considering the protein and the carbohydrates required, 268 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: you know you're looking at a good at least twenty, 269 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: if not closer to thirty dollars spend. I would estimate 270 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: now for the average person with the weekly budget, it's 271 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: not feasible to be spending thirty plus dollars per meal. 272 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: Unless it's a special occasion. So I think in the 273 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: case of budget reasons ease convenience, certainly there's When it 274 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: comes to packet sources, there are some really good options, 275 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: and I think the best message with it is looking 276 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: for ones that are relatively low and saturated fat. Seek 277 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: out ones that have as little added sugar as possible. 278 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: So we like to aim for around less than five 279 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: gram of sugars perserve, and you know, use them to 280 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: flavor up healthier meals, you know, use loads of veggies 281 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: and things with them, and then there's nothing to feel 282 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: guilty or be worried about using a packet sauce. And 283 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: if we were comparing preparing a chicken masala at home, 284 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: a tick a masala at home versus something you would 285 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: order in, you will always be better nutritionally to make 286 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: it yourself. And if that means using a packet sauce, 287 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: admittedly trying to seek out the best one that's there, 288 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: but there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Nutritionally, you don't, 289 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, fare better because you've made everything from scratch. 290 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: If anything, strategically you are going to be much better 291 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: to invest in the more vegetables in there. In a 292 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: leaner chicken or protein sauce than being worried about a 293 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: little bit of processed sauce being added to make that 294 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: flavor that meal up. So I have no concerns with 295 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: packet sauces, but my general feedback to clients is avoid 296 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: the ones that are creamy. Or when you look at 297 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: the ingredient lists, have vegetable oil as one of the 298 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: first ingredients and you'll be on the right track definitely. 299 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 2: And I think if you're a real fooder, you'll probably 300 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: have them. Bulk of these is at home and your 301 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: pantry anyway, so probably wouldn't cost you too much if 302 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: you had the time and you really enjoyed it. Of course, 303 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: making it from scratch is probably slightly better. And of 304 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: course I think the sodium content's the biggest thing to 305 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: be wary of. When we look at these two brands, Susie, 306 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: we break down the sodium content. The per tax is 307 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: only nearly three hundred milligrams per hundred grams. There is 308 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: the spice tailor one is six hundred and twenty per 309 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: hundred grams, so it's got more than double the sodium. 310 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: So it's more expensive product. It's high calorie, it's double 311 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: the amount of sodium in it, and it only serves 312 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: three compared to the pattax which does four serves, And 313 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: so I think you're going to make it stretch a 314 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: little bit more for lower calorie and also for a 315 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: lot lower sodium content. So I think for me that 316 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: one's the winner overall. Or you can do it yourself, 317 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: as you said, but it really does take a long 318 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: time in the kitchen. So I definitely wouldn't even hesitate 319 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: to use something like this in a home made meal 320 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: because I would much rather prefer to do it myself 321 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: and enjoy it and make it the way I would like, 322 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: versus ordering in something from Uberots which isn't going to 323 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: make me feel great at the end of the day. 324 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: And as we talked about, Western style curries are much 325 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: higher in fact than doing it yourself. Very true. 326 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, enjoy your homemade Indian. 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