1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Is your favorite takeaway meal at Indian Curry? Do you 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: love whipping up a Tika masala in your kitchen like 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Master Chef? There is a growing range of curry sauces 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: in the supermarkets, and today we are going to review 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: two popular Tika masala sauces just for you. Hi, I'm 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Susie Burrow and I'm Leanne Wood, and we bring you 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: the Nutrition Couch, a bye weekly chat on everything you 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: can find in the supermarket and our very honest reviews 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: of some of our listeners much loved products. So Leanne Curry, 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: is it your favorite order when you get some cheeky 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: uber eats? 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: No, I just I always feel sick after eating it, 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: and I think it's because I have a little bit 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: of a sensitive gut. I just find it very very rich. However, 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: David loves Indian like as a cuisine into order, so 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: he gets very upset because I never let him have it. 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: Whenever we go and you get some reats, I always 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: be too hones saying we're not having that because I 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: can't eat it and I'll feel sick tomorrow and you'll 20 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: have to deal with me tomorrow. So the poor guy 21 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: probably hasn't had Indian takeaway in years. But I do 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: like that there are a growing range of sort of 23 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: sources where you can make your own at home. You 24 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: can sort of balance it out a little bit more. 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: But this curry is something that you love? Is it 26 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: a go to in your household? SUSI? 27 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh, it's so funny because when I was growing up, 28 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: my parents would routinely have curry nights, so they would 29 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: have their friends over. They would have the little bowls 30 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: of coconut and banana and pumpams. It was a massive 31 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: social occasion. And I have to be honest, I'm a 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: very plain eater, as I've shared before. I like, really, 33 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: you know, a piece of salmon and vegetables. I don't 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: mind like a tie kind of curry, but it's certainly 35 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: something I don't make regularly at home. But like you, 36 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: my husband loves it, and as soon as he gets 37 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: my parents around her, if I'm not here, they will 38 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: always whip out for a curry. So I'm a bit 39 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: of the limiting factor. We won't disagree, but we should 40 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: say that we know you guys listening love this because 41 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: when Lee and I said to Leana, we really doing 42 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: curry and she said, yeah, it's really popular. We've had 43 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: several requests for it, so it's our job to bring 44 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: you the information. So we've got two pre made sources 45 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: in the supermarket because we know you guys enjoy it. 46 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: So the first one we're going to talk about today 47 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: is that. And if I'm pronouncing these names wrong, please 48 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: forgive me, am I saying it correct? Per Tax Is 49 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: that right? I think it's yeah, Pa Tax, I think 50 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: pat tax and Tika masala. That's how you say it, 51 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: isn't it. 52 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. 53 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: So this is a source found just in the supermarket. 54 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: It's actually made in the UK, which is interesting because 55 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: one of my best friends is from the UK and 56 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: she also loves a curry, so it probably doesn't surprise 57 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: me so much to see one of these products comes 58 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: from overseas. So if we look at the ingredients, the 59 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: first ingredients water tomatoes fifteen percent, yoga five percent, so 60 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: on the whole, it's even starting out looking pretty clean, 61 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: some concentrated tomato, pure vegetable oil, cream, may starch, and 62 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: then it goes down into a lot of spices and thickness, 63 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: which admittedly will be in very small amounts given that 64 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: the next ingredient's only fifteen percent tomatoes and five percent yogurt. 65 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: It's very low in calories, leanne you know, per serve. 66 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: It says, is it one serve per jar? 67 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: Know? 68 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: How much is that jar? 69 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: Three? 70 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: Four serves per jar? Just under one hundred calories, one 71 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: point protein, only five point three grams of fat coming 72 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: from a little bit of the yogurt and cream, but 73 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: still low in saturated fat. Eight point one grams of carbohydrate, 74 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: four point five grams of sugars, which I hastened to 75 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: say it would be mainly from the tomatoes. Is that 76 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: ingredient sodium? 77 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of added sugar a little. 78 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Bit not so much though, because that's cream three percent, 79 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: so the main starts going to come in under three percent. 80 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: So overall pretty low. Three one hundred and thirty milligrams 81 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: of sodium, which is an insignificant for that smaller portion. 82 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: But really this hasn't got a huge amount in it 83 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: other than a bit of tomatoes and spices, so on 84 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: the whole, you know, I think that it doesn't really 85 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: contain so much at all. I don't think there's anything 86 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: really wrong with it. If a client brought that to me, 87 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have any real concerns with it. I don't know, 88 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: what do you think. Maybe I'm not taking the sauces 89 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: seriously enough. I just would say to them, it doesn't 90 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: have really much in it. And if you're using it 91 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: as serves four as described on the label, there wouldn't 92 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: be an issue. But if you started to make it 93 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: serves just too you'd be getting a fe whacka sodium. 94 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: But if you're doing it with lean meat and some brown, 95 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: hopefully brown whole grain rice, you know it's adding some flavor. 96 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Sure it could be a little bit cleaner, but on 97 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the whole, there's not a whole lot wrong with it. 98 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what do you think? 99 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: And I think this is quite amusing because when I 100 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: put these two products together, Susie, I actually chose to 101 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: pattas one as the quote unquote bad one. I didn't 102 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: even really read the nutrition. I just grabbed it off 103 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: the shop. I thought, I'll try this and then I'll 104 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: I'll pop it up there. And I'm sure that you 105 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: know it looks too sort of decadent to be like healthy, 106 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. So it's actually a really good option, 107 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: and it's quite I sort of chose it as the 108 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: one where I'm like, no, there's definitely a better option 109 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: on the market, and the second one we're reviewing that 110 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: from a marketing perspective, you would look at the front 111 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: and pack label and that and say, you know, that's 112 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: the better option, or that's a lower calorie option, that's 113 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: a cleaner option. And so I actually find it quite 114 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: amusing that this is actually not a bad option. So 115 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: I'd be more than happy for my clients to use 116 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: something like this, as you said, with a bit of 117 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: whole grains or legumes to bulk it out, some lean 118 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: protein and a ton of edgies. I think where we 119 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: would run into problems if we're just doing this with 120 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 2: some you know, chicken thie with some meat or something 121 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: and white rice and then maybe a little sprinkle of 122 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, some broccoli or something on side. 123 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: That's where we'd run into troubles if we're not using 124 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: it as part of a balanced meal. So I really 125 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: do feel like it comes down to what you pair 126 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: it with. But this as a source in terms of 127 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: something that you might get you make this yourself at 128 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: home versus you ordering in like an Indian curry. This 129 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: would be a lot healthier and a lot better long term, 130 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: I think, particularly because a lot of our Indian takeaway 131 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: is quite westernized in Australia as well. It's not like 132 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: what you would get if you went to Indian ordered 133 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: sort of a dicker missile lot up the street. It's 134 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 2: definitely not the same thing. I think a lot of 135 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: times in restaurants we use a hell of a lot 136 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: more oil and yogurt and cream in them. Whereas I 137 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: like the top two ingredients in this water tomatoes followed 138 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: by yogurt. It's not you know, vegetable oil or cream 139 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: at the top, which I think is really really important. 140 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's why I actually don't tolerate take 141 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: away you know Indian that well, Susie is because it 142 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: is so high and fat and it is so greasy. 143 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: I just don't digest or do well with too much fat. 144 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: So I actually think this is quite a good product, 145 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: And as you said, it would add a lot of 146 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: flavor to meals, and if you didn't want to make 147 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: it into more of a curry, you could just choose 148 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: like maybe a tablespoon if there's over the top of 149 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: some veggies, just to get a little bit of extra flavor. 150 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: I think that would go down really well as well. 151 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: And one of the most common questions I have when 152 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I've seen a new client is what can I put 153 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: on my vegetables to flavor them up? And my general 154 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: rule of thumb is I don't care what you add 155 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: to the vegetables as long as you eat them, So 156 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I'd be very happy if people were 157 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: using this kind of sauce to flavor out vegetables, and 158 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. My biggest feedback to clients when 159 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: talking about Indian cuisine is the quality of the protein, 160 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: so making sure it is chicken breast, for example, not 161 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: the fatty chicken thigh or drumsticks, or in the case 162 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: of having things with it, you know, if you're having 163 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: potatoes plus pomp and ms plus white rice, it's all 164 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: processed carbohydrate, whereas if you can stick to the veggie 165 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: based carbs are a very small amount of brown rice, 166 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: it will improve the overall profile of that meal. But 167 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm just having a quick look at these sources, Lee 168 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: and because again I'm not overly familiar. This retail is 169 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: at about four dollars. It's on sale this week at 170 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Willis when we're recording Pajar. But you do have to 171 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: be careful because I'm just having a look now at 172 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: one of the other popular products, which is the butter chicken. 173 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I know butter chickens very popular, and when I look 174 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: this is the same brand. When I look at this 175 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: nutritional the first ingredients water followed by vegetable GE. So 176 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: for me, that's a big concern because ge is going 177 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: to give a high saturated fat, so that's coming in 178 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: at four gram saturated perserve. So I would certainly be 179 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: opting for products like this Ticka Masala which is a 180 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: vegetable based rather than a fat base. And that's probably 181 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: another take home message for people when you're buying pre 182 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: made sauces, particularly that a curry or Indian flavor, making 183 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: sure you're choosing the veggie based options rather than ones 184 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: that have that creamy base, because that inevitably will be 185 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: adding a lot of saturated fat, as is the case 186 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: with this one that's the butter chicken compared to the 187 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Ticka Masala, which is the tomato based. So it does 188 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: pay to have a quick scan of that ingredient list 189 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: and just make sure you're getting more of the veggies 190 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: rather than the fat which can be very present in Indian. 191 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: And definitely and just from an allergen perspectives to wrap 192 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: us up, this one is green light for our Celiacs, 193 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: no detectabile gutin. But it does obviously contain milk because 194 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: it does have that yogurt and cream in there as well, 195 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: So not a vegan based option, but is okay from 196 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: our Celiac point of view. And there's an allergen statement 197 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: maybe present tree nuts, so that's just something to be 198 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: aware of as well if you have allergens in the family. 199 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: And so the second product we're looking at is one 200 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: of the more boutique products. It's not in a japers say, 201 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: they're in the pouches, and certainly in Asian cuisine we 202 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: see the pouches, which we would want to say, as 203 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: a rule of thumber slightly better nutritionally, but not always. 204 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: This is the spice tailor, again I haven't seen it myself, 205 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: which is called the original Tika Masala, so a direct 206 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: comparison to a product, this one comes from India. The 207 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: first ingredient is thirty five percent onion, twenty seven percent tomato, 208 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: pure milk, curd, water, some flowl oil, butter, rice, flour, garlic, salt, ginger, 209 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: red chili powder, cashew nuts, and then a whole lot 210 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: of spice. Is very similar to the per tax one. 211 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: We've just had a look out. There's a lot of 212 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: ingredients on here. When I have a look at the 213 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: nutritionals per hundred grams serve one hundred and fifty calories, 214 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: two point two grams of protein, eight point seven grams 215 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: of fat, says per serving hundred Yeah, so a bit 216 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: higher in fat this one. Saturated fats still less than 217 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: three percent at two point three seven point six grams 218 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: of sugar, again not insignificant, one point six grams of 219 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: fiber and six hundred and twenty milligrams of sodium. So 220 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: I think for Melian it's reasonably similar. If I had 221 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: to choose nutritionally one I prefer, I probably would slightly 222 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: err towards the per tax one. But given it's kind 223 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: of the same product, it's sort of splitting hairs, I 224 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: think this one's probably more expensive. That we have a 225 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: quick chat it is. Yeah, have you tried have you 226 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: tried this brand before? In any product? 227 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: I've tried both, and I honestly think I think the 228 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: taste is fairly similar. I actually think the pa tax 229 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: gives a little bit of a better mouthfeel. So because 230 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: it is a it's cheaper, but it is lower in 231 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: overall fat content and lower in overall salaries, and I 232 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: personally think it had a better taste and a better mouthfeel. 233 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: I would actually lean more towards the pa tax one, 234 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: which really surprises me because I really thought that I would. 235 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: I would sort of go over more the Splice tailor 236 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: one because, as you said, generally, in terms of pouches, 237 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: you can see the visible herbs and splices in there, 238 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: so it looks like a lot more of a whole 239 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: food based product. But when you actually look at the 240 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: ingredients and the nutrition facts, and really comes down to 241 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: is that actually they're quite similar products. So from a 242 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: price and a lower calorie perspective, I would probably go 243 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: more for the Patax one if I was being honest, 244 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: and I think it did taste slightly, but they were 245 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: both quite enjoyable if I was being honest, They both 246 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: had really nice flavors. 247 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: This one, you're right, This retails for two dollars more, 248 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: almost six dollars per serve versus the Pertax, which is 249 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: only four for four serves. This is two to three 250 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: serves per pack. I'm just having a look at another 251 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: one in the range to see if it's the same situation, 252 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: and the creamy ones are the ones to kind of avoid. 253 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the first one is slightly better. 254 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: But I think the other take home message is that 255 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: we get a lot of questions about package sauces because 256 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: I think we sort of put a sweeping statement that, 257 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, we shouldn't be using packet sources at all 258 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: and their process. Now, I think for ease, if you 259 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: had to go lean and buy every one of those 260 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: ingredients that's required to make a delicious ticker masala, I 261 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: would hasten to guess that that's going to cost at 262 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: least thirty dollars by the time you buy the fresh 263 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: produce all of those individual spices, without even considering the 264 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: protein and the carbohydrates required, you know you're looking at 265 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: a good at least twenty, if not closer to thirty 266 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: dollars spend. I would estimate now for the average person 267 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: with the weekly budget, it's not feasible to be spending 268 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: thirty plus dollars per meal unless it's a special occasion. 269 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: So I think in the case of budget reasons ease convenience, 270 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: certainly there's When it comes to packet sources, there are 271 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: some really good options, and I think the best message 272 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: with it is looking for ones that are relatively low 273 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: and saturated fat. Seek out ones that have as little 274 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: added sugar as possible. So we like to aim for 275 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: around less than five grad of sugars perserve, and you know, 276 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: use them to flavor up healthier meals, you know, use 277 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: loads of veggies and things with them, and then there's 278 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: nothing to feel guilty or be worried about using a 279 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: packet sauce. And if we're comparing preparing a chicken masala 280 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: at home, a tick a masala at home versus something 281 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: you would order in, you will always be better nutritionally 282 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: to make it yourself. And if that means using a 283 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: packet sauce, admittedly trying to seek out the best one 284 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: that's there, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Nutritionally, 285 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: you don't, you know, fare better because you've made everything 286 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: from scratch. If anything, strategically, you are going to be 287 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: much better to invest in the more vegetables in there. 288 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: In a leaner chicken or protein sauce than being worried 289 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: about a little bit of processed sauce being added to 290 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: make that flavor that meal up. So I have no 291 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: concerns with packet sauces, but my general feedback to clients 292 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: is avoid the ones that are creamy. Or when you 293 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: look at the ingredient lists, have vegetable oil as one 294 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: of the first ingredients, and you'll be on the right 295 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: track definitely. 296 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: And I think if you're a real fooder, you'll probably 297 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: have them. Bulk of these is at home in your 298 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: pantry anyway, so probably wouldn't cost you too much if 299 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: you had the time and you really enjoyed it. Of course, 300 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: making it from scratch is probably slightly better. And of 301 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: course I think the sodium content's the biggest thing to 302 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: be wary of. When we look at these two brands, Susie, 303 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: we break down the sodium content. The per tax is 304 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: only nearly three hundred milligrams per hundred grams, or is 305 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: the spice tailor one is six hundred and twenty per 306 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: hundred grams, So it's got more than double the sodium, 307 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: So it's more expensive product, it's higher calorie, it's double 308 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: the amount of sodium in it, and it only serves 309 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: three compared to the pattax which does four serves, and 310 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: so I think you're going to make it stretch a 311 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: little bit more for lower calorie and also for a 312 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 2: lot lower sodium content. So I think for me that 313 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: one's the winner overall. Or you can do it yourself, 314 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: as you said, but it really does take a long 315 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: time in the kitchen. So I definitely wouldn't even hesitate 316 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: to use something like this in a home made meal 317 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: because I would much rather prefer to do it myself 318 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: and enjoy it and make it the way I would like, 319 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: versus ordering in something from Uberots which isn't going to 320 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: make me feel great at the end of the day. 321 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: And as we talked about, Western style curries are much 322 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: higher in than doing it yourself. 323 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: Very true, But in the meantime, enjoy your homemade Indian 324 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing some of your images if 325 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: you want to send them through, and we'll share them 326 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: on our Instagram. 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