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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter and professional oversharer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in

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Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Today on the pod we have Ossie actress Claire Lovering.

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Speaker 2: She's incredible theater screen, has a huge body of work

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Speaker 2: in Australia. But the reason why today's chat came about

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Speaker 2: is Claire wrote to me ahead of her first Hollywood

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Speaker 2: feature film, playing a main role, like a main character,

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Speaker 2: and she is playing opposite I mean literally, Mark Wahlberg

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Speaker 2: is in this movie. The film has been directed by

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Speaker 2: Shane Black and it's all set in New York, but

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Speaker 2: it's actually shot in Sydney, and we talk about all

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Speaker 2: of the behind the scenes of the movie. The movie

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Speaker 2: is officially available now to stream on Amazon Prime, So

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Speaker 2: after you listen to this, hopefully that it inspires you

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Speaker 2: to go out and watch it. It's such a fun

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Speaker 2: American crime thriller.

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Speaker 1: And because we did record.

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Speaker 2: This episode a little bit in advance, but we have

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Speaker 2: held the episode until the movie is officially out.

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Speaker 1: So the great news about.

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Speaker 2: That is we got to talk a lot about the

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Speaker 2: movie in this chat because we didn't weren't bring it

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Speaker 2: out before the movie coming out, So you'll get a

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Speaker 2: taste of all the behind the scenes with Claire.

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Speaker 1: And Claire doesn't hold back.

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Speaker 2: She shares what it was like behind the scenes. She

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Speaker 2: shares her tricks for when she's on a set and

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Speaker 2: there's you know, so many people watching, and how to

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Speaker 2: stay grounded and clear in those often chaotic moments. So

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Speaker 2: if you're an actor, this episode is one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: for you, But I think if you're a creative you

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Speaker 2: will definitely get something from this chat. And like I said,

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Speaker 2: go out, Well you don't even need to go out.

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Speaker 2: You can stream the movie on Amazon Prime Play Dirty

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Speaker 2: watch it. It's a really fun one and let's celebrate

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Speaker 2: Claire lovering. Thank you for jumping on the Podclaire, You're wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what is next for you

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Speaker 2: and to you the listener, hope you love this chat.

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Speaker 2: She's incredible, such a good egg And yeah, I can't.

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Speaker 1: Wait to see what's next? Hohoru.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Potter Rooney Claire lovering mate. You have

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Speaker 2: been a dream to research, haven't you?

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Speaker 3: Just?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Have I? Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: So, first of all, Australian actress Livy at the moment

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Speaker 2: over here in Los Angeles, can I say that? Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 2: And you just randomly wrote to me one day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have been a long time listener because you've been

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Speaker 3: like maybe five years ahead in your journey. Well, I

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Speaker 3: think we' both applied for green cards around the same time,

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Speaker 3: but I've like really closely followed your journey coming to LA,

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Speaker 3: and your LA diary has always been like, yeah, you've

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Speaker 3: always listened to kind of tips and inspiration and okay,

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Speaker 3: how's that going? And so I was. But I've always

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Speaker 3: loved you. I think you are a really wonderful interviewer

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Speaker 3: and I really admire the amount of research you do

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Speaker 3: and how much you care about your interviews.

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Speaker 1: So I'd always thought, oh.

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Speaker 3: Maybe one day I can, I can go on long

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Speaker 3: with podcast, and so yeah, I reached out.

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Speaker 1: Well I love that. Yeah, thank you for thank you

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Speaker 2: Then we had a lovely coffee together full time in

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Speaker 2: Lost Feelers. And then I started researching you, as I

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Speaker 2: do because I'm obsessed with research people. And the first

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Speaker 2: thing I started with, we're just going to dive into

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Speaker 2: your epic career first of all, actually.

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Speaker 1: Freemantle gal Yep Yeap went to WAPA, which.

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Speaker 2: Is like one of the like Nighter and Whopper are

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then you've also done all this amazing theater like

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Speaker 3: which was my favorite that I've ever done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh mate, And he's also been on this pod.

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Speaker 2: That's why I love that's that's your favorite play you've

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Speaker 3: It's the favorite production I've ever been involved in. It's

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Speaker 2: Well that was my next person, like to the listener,

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Speaker 2: he's I think my favorite Australian director and also my

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Speaker 2: I always ask actors that have worked with him, what

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Speaker 3: And I the first thing I learned from him was

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Speaker 3: That was the one thing I really really loved about

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Speaker 3: And so I think i'd been playing to the back

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a question I had marked for the

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Speaker 2: great like theater stuff that people would dream of and

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Speaker 2: you often it sometimes as a divide, like theater actor

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Speaker 1: I love it all, Like theater was my first love.

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Speaker 3: So I got really quick at like making big choices

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Speaker 3: So then I started to get screenwork and then now

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Speaker 3: I I it's been a choice not to do theater, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just been a I haven't done a play for

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Speaker 2: Have you ever done that for an acting job? Have

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Speaker 2: Now I have to talk to you about play dirty.

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Speaker 1: Love it? I love that you to switch into your America.

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Speaker 3: And it did happen. It did end up being an earthquake.

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Speaker 2: So to the listener, it is officially out now, yes,

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Speaker 2: Because we are recording this in advance, we're not bringing

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Speaker 1: What about in Australia do Yeah? I think it's globally on.

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Speaker 1: Well done, yep, love that brain of yours. Perfect.

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Speaker 1: So take me through the process.

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Speaker 3: And then I was with my boyfriend's family in DC

445
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 3: and we filmed it in his sister's bedroom, and I

446
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 3: remember it was one of those tapes where like everything

447
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 3: was going wrong. The lighting was dark, it was an

448
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 3: overcast day. We didn't have the setup. It was like

449
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 3: a gray wall behind me. I felt bad. I was like,

450
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing. And then my boyfriend

451
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 3: was like, just have fun with it. Just have to

452
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 3: do a take where you have fun with it, and

453
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 3: I was like fine, and then I did a take

454
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 3: where I sort of improvised and ad lived and then

455
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 3: I kind of was editing what to send and I

456
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 3: just went, I'm just gonna go with that one because

457
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: it's the only one where I feel like I believe myself.

458
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: And it's like what else am I going to send?

459
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 3: Like at least I'm giving something. And that was in

460
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 3: like October, and then I didn't hear anything for I

461
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 3: guess three four months.

462
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

463
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I got a call from my agent

464
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 3: in the new year, like January, and she was like,

465
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 3: so play Dirty and I was like, what's that? What's

466
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 3: that one? And it was one of those tapes so

467
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 3: I never even watched it again because I couldn't better

468
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 3: watch it. Wow huh. And then I I and I

469
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 3: was like play dirty, Play Dirty, and then I like

470
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: went on me. I was like that one, and she

471
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: was like, yep, so Shane loves you and I was

472
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 3: like what It was.

473
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: So crazy, like it was so unexpected anyway.

474
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,239
Speaker 3: So then I went and met with him and we

475
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: had it and I was like, does you want to

476
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 3: call back to my to do a scene? And it

477
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 3: was just a meeting. He was already in Australia by

478
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: that time. So I went to what is now Disney

479
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: Studios and met with him and we chatted for.

480
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,239
Speaker 1: Like an hour and it went really well.

481
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 3: And then I didn't hear for like a month, I think,

482
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: and then I finally got told I got the role.

483
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: And then how long between that and actually filming? Maybe

484
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: another month or two? Yeah, And do you get sent

485
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: in your script? Like how soon I.

486
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: Got sent the script before I met with him? Oh amazing.

487
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 3: But I got the call saying I had a meeting

488
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: with him like maybe two days before, and I was like,

489
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: oh my god, I've gotta I gotta watch all his movies.

490
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: I got to freak the script. I I've got to

491
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: go to the gym. I've got it. Like I was

492
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: trying to do like as much as I could.

493
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you say, like preparation, I really like you know,

494
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 3: I think some people maybe would just like go in

495
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: and be charming and like let the conversation flow.

496
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: But I was like I need to like, yeah, I'm

497
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: like that.

498
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was like that, I was ready for anything,

499
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 3: and but I, yeah, he's he was so lovely and yeah,

500
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: and then I had Yeah, I think a month or

501
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: two to prepare, and I work with a dialect coach

502
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: and read the books that it was based on, and

503
00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: like did all that and yeah, like my character was

504
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: American obviously lived in green Point, so I do stuff

505
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: like I went on like a Google Maps tour, Like

506
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: I went on Google Maps and just like took myself

507
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 3: on street view around the neighborhood to you know, like

508
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: I did all that sort of stuff and so that

509
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: was really fun.

510
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, have you been back to New York

511
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: since shooting this all this?

512
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Yell?

513
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 2: Did go?

514
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: I went last year?

515
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 3: Did you? But I didn't go to green Point? But

516
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 3: I will list I'm going to for the premiere. So

517
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: I think I will be there because I think I'm

518
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: going to see a play. What are you I'm going

519
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: to see It's called weather Girl at Saint Anne's Warehouse.

520
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

521
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: It's the same people that made Fleabag and Baby Reindeer.

522
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: So I was like, I want to say this.

523
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mgp okay. So because the premiere and everything

524
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: will happen by now.

525
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 3: Yes, and it went so well, yeah.

526
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: But are you excited? Are you nervous?

527
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: How are you feeling that this is a pretty big

528
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: deal kind of premiere moment.

529
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really I think I feel numb about it.

530
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: Actually I don't. I think maybe I feel nervous and

531
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 3: I feel excited. I've seen the movie, so like that's

532
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: not going to be an unknown. Yeah, And I think

533
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 3: I think I just want to have a nice time,

534
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: like you know, I don't want to put too much

535
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: pressure on it. But I think I think there have

536
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: been times in my career where I look back and

537
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: I go, WHOA, that was a big deal. And I

538
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: don't know if I kind of like whent like the

539
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 3: Class of O seven premiere. I remember, like I was

540
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: shooting gold Diggers and I flew to Sydney for the

541
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: premiere for a day and flew back because I had

542
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: to be back on set the next day.

543
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I don't think I quite appreciate it

544
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: how cool that was. Yeah, And so.

545
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: I'm trying to really like appreciate like what an achievement

546
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: it is and like what a moment it is for me,

547
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: and just to kind of like, yeah, appreciate that and

548
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: celebrate it, I guess, because yeah, it has been a

549
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: long road to get here.

550
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: Yes, so so exciting.

551
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: I'm really proud of you, and I am just so

552
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: pumped to see it all unfold because we're recording this

553
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: just so little behind the scenes of the listener. We're

554
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: recording this a couple of weeks before the premiere. Yeah,

555
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: so like I'm so pumped to just like watch it

556
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: all unfold on your social and all of that and

557
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: just like yes, oak it up because this is someone

558
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: someone gave me this advice when I opened a smoothie bus.

559
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: This is like a really weird side.

560
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: But you never get the first of anything back, and

561
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: this is your first part of the like big cast Hollywood.

562
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like this, you'll never get

563
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: this back.

564
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: You're going to do more Hollywood films, I'm sure of it,

565
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 2: but like you never get the first one back, so

566
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: like enjoy it, like soak up the smeuse the feeling,

567
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: Like get yourself a gluten free bagel.

568
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: When you're in you know what I mean, Like totally Yeah,

569
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: I've already I've booked the Bowery Hotel Beautiful because I

570
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: think that will be just whatever happens, it'll be a

571
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: really nice experience.

572
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: I can just have a bathroom in the marble tub.

573
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: It's also going to be full, like it's going to

574
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: look beautiful in New York, like around Central, you know

575
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like just do all those things, because yeah,

576
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: I always think, I always I always try to appreciate

577
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 2: the first time I do anything now because it gets

578
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: so much easier and it feels like second nature the

579
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: second the third time. But that first time, it's like

580
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: there's there's a feeling of like apprehension and excitement. I'm like,

581
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just always think, enjoy the first.

582
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember, there's there's a quote that I really

583
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: liked when I was starting out, which was life is

584
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: so subtle. Sometimes you don't notice yourself walking through doors

585
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: you once prayed would open.

586
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: And I remember that with when I did my when

587
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: I had.

588
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: My first day of rehearsal was at STC because I've

589
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: been wanting to get a play there for like maybe

590
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: it was seven years until I got my first one there,

591
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: and like walking down the corridor, walking down that long

592
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: hallway to like with like with a lanyard, I was like, WHOA,

593
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: I really like I wanted this for so long, so

594
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: it's just like this similar.

595
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Was Kate Blanche It wasn't she like the artistic director

596
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: or something.

597
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: She wasn't she'd gone it was Kip Williams when I was.

598
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: But that's like you're walking down where like load hales

599
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 2: lions of walk, do you know what I mean? Like

600
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: it's pretty flip it amazing. Yeah, yeah, I think we

601
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: forget as well. You're in the grind, especially in Los Angeles,

602
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: And I want to ask you a bit about this.

603
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: When you're in that consistent grind, it's sometimes really hard

604
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: to look around and be like, oh fuck, I've just

605
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: moved like four paces forward. Yeah, and to like take

606
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: stock in that totally. So I have to ask being

607
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: an Aussie that has come over here and kind of

608
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: like uprooted everything.

609
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: And I always say to.

610
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: People LA is a beautiful but brutal beast, and how

611
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: do you find LA?

612
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: Like? What what have you found works? What have you

613
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: found like tricky?

614
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: I was, So I didn't come to la and until

615
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and I I.

616
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: Was like, so after a lot of my.

617
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: Classmates came over pretty quick, like within one or two

618
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 3: three years to try and get rap, and I was

619
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: a member raised to say, oh no, when I'm ready,

620
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm ready. And so I really

621
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: held off, and then around twenty eighteen, I was like, Okay,

622
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: I think it's time.

623
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to start applying for my Green card. I

624
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: want to do it properly.

625
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: So I applied for my Green card before I'd even

626
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: visited LA. I was like, if that's where I have

627
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: to be, I'll learn to love it that doesn't matter.

628
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: And then COVID happened and I couldn't get here. And

629
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: then eventually I got here and I made my first

630
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: trip about I didn't try and get meetings.

631
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: I didn't make it about industry.

632
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: I went on like the Beverly Hills tour bus and

633
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 3: I did an e bike tour to Venice Beach and

634
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: I just like gave myself. I just wanted to get

635
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: to know the city as somewhere I would live, rather

636
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: than like make it associated with industry, because that was

637
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: the problem. When I moved to Sydney from Perth Is,

638
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: I was just there to act, and then when acting

639
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: didn't happen, I was just really depressed and stuff. So

640
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm had a different approach and then

641
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: so but immediately when I did first get there, I

642
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: was like, I.

643
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: Love it here.

644
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: It's really, because I think it's a bit like Perth

645
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: where I grew up. It's like blue Sky's wide streets

646
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: drive around. Then I love like the health, the stuff

647
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: and the culture, and I just think everyone's really friendly here.

648
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: And I felt like ready for change after a long

649
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: time in Sydney.

650
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: And then I came last.

651
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: Year and I did like a big, solid five month chunk,

652
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: and that was when I started to be like, Okay,

653
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: this is a little bit more rocky than I kind

654
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: of you know, it's not always going to be smooth sailing.

655
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: But I found some challenges that I hadn't anticipated, which

656
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: were less about like rejection and more about just nothing, like.

657
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: Just just nothingness.

658
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: And that was And I also think last year I

659
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: came with a bit of an attitude of like, I

660
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: don't want to do classes because I know I have

661
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: a process I'm very protective of and I'm not going

662
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: to like compromise that, or like I don't want to, like,

663
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, do that.

664
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: I was I was kind of like, I know what's

665
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: working for me, and I want to keep doing that.

666
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: And then now this time I've come with a different approach,

667
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: which is I'm just going to put myself out there

668
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: and do lots of things and not be so precious.

669
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Speaker 3: So I think I'm always kind of like changing the

670
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: if something's not working, I'll try something different.

671
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: And I think it's the biggest thing.

672
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: The biggest challenge is like your mindset and your mental

673
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: health and how do you stay happy and motivated and inspired.

674
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Without Yeah, if the.

675
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: One thing that you're here to do isn't isn't happening,

676
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: And that's what I've been really focusing on.

677
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love that.

678
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you're highly adaptable if you can change,

679
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: like it's a lot. I think that's the trick as well,

680
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: Like if something's not working, it's like, okay, well, how

681
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: can I like is there Matt and I talk about

682
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: this a lot, like how can we mcguiver a different

683
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: find another way in or go Like I felt that

684
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: same feeling last year. I was like, I just need

685
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: to be on a set like I haven't felt and

686
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: the rejection thing, and I was like, I'm needing too

687
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: many closed doors. And that's when I just started cold

688
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: emailing Morning TV and I was like, fuck, I've done

689
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: it for years in Australia, Like yeah, let's just get

690
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: back on a set, yeah, and cold emailing is how

691
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: I got on.

692
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

693
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: But it is fascinating because it's like it's figuring out

694
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: like what that thing.

695
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Is that Like.

696
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: It's it's like I always said, people, you've got this

697
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: little like pilot light.

698
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: In your heart.

699
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like our responsibility to fan it and

700
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: turn it into a wildfire. And you need to figure

701
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: out ways to keep fanning it yep. And it's almost

702
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: like you need to be able to do that, you

703
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: can't be needing outside sources to do that.

704
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: So I have a career coach who I've been working

705
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: with four years and she we were talking about lain

706
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: like before I came this trip, and she was like,

707
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: what's the how are you feeling. I was like, oh,

708
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: there's a bit of like a little bit of like

709
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: trepidation about it. And we figured out that it's because

710
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: I said, I was just like every day I kind

711
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: of like lose a bit of confidence. And she was like,

712
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: so there's a confidence tax. And I was like, yeah,

713
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: there's a confidence tax. And she's like said, what are

714
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: you going to do to keep your confidence? And like

715
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: keep keep topping up your confidence? And so that's something

716
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: that I, yeah, have been keeping front of mind is like.

717
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: What do you do to keep me confidence up? I

718
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: watch old self tapes. Now I don't. I was like, okay, no.

719
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: Well that's why I like, I think other things like

720
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: going to classes.

721
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: I've signed up for groundings so.

722
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: For the listener that's comedy comedy, sketchuny and pro comedy.

723
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: And then I've also signed up for some watercolor classes.

724
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: I think things that like take my focus off acting

725
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: actually is a great way to kind of like keep

726
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: those other pillars. Yeah, but also like yeah, like seeing friends,

727
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: going for drives, going to new places, walking like big,

728
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: big long walks, hikes, like all the things that like

729
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: make you a human being. It's not just about like

730
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: keeping my confidence up as an actor, it's about keeping

731
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: my common it's up as a person in the world.

732
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I love it.

733
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: What advice would you have for like a young actor

734
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: that might be fresh out of school, And like I

735
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: always say, there's like and I don't know if it's

736
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: changed since when I trained in Melbourne, but like because

737
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: school is so different over here. It's like scene study

738
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: and they're like months you sign up for months at it,

739
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: Like I'm doing a month of this class and we're

740
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: working with this script D data and then you sign

741
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: up again if that class goes. Because so many people

742
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: are working actors so like they can't do like if

743
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: they're on set, they're obviously not in class, and whereas

744
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: in Australia, like you're it's almost like a I mean

745
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: for what probably is a degree, but like it is

746
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: a performing arts degree, and so you're not really when

747
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: I trained, you weren't allowed to be auditioning and you

748
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: had to be like committed to school. So often I

749
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: found like when you get out of school, there's kind

750
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: of like you've been in this beautiful like incubator of

751
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: creativity and like you're saying, doing players all the time,

752
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, you're

753
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: out in the big bad world. If you don't have

754
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: a rep, it's really hard to get auditions. Like there's

755
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: a lot of there's like it feels like there's a

756
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: bridge between like being in school and being like a

757
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: hungry actor and when I was so hungry, like hungry for work,

758
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: and then the actual on set working, it feels like

759
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: there's quite a gap between that. So do you have

760
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: any advice for like a young actor that might be

761
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: like out of school knows they've got the goods as

762
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: far as like they're committed their talent, they're working on

763
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: there to all of that, But like, how do you

764
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: go to that next stage where you get to be

765
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: on a set or you get to be creating projects.

766
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when I graduated Whopper, I got a really

767
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: good agent. But yeah, Sydney, I just I found people

768
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: because it's in wa. I found people who went to

769
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: night I just had the edge because they had they'd

770
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: gone to Nia with the directing students and then the

771
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: directing students were putting on their first plays out of

772
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: and then they would use the actors that they knew.

773
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: So I found it really hard to get my foot

774
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: in the door. So I know what that feels like.

775
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: I my advice would be, And what I found worked

776
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: is look out for general auditions and email email theater

777
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: companies and like even independent theater companies, and when they

778
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: when you see what their season is, email them they

779
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 3: be like can I get auditioned? Can I get a general?

780
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: I also think one really important thing is like have

781
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: a casual job that is flexible. So I had like

782
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 3: I ended up having like six casual jobs at one

783
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: point because I needed enough. I needed to make enough

784
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: money to pay for life, but I also needed everyone

785
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: to like not need me enough that I could like

786
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: bounce if I had an audition or if I got

787
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: a play for a couple of year months so to

788
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: find something that like takes the pressure off. And then

789
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: also what I did is if I did get cast

790
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: in a play and do it, I would then when

791
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: the play was opened, I would put together a document

792
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: of like review, quote and photos, and then I would

793
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: email casting directors and other theater companies and ask offer

794
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: them free tickets to come and see the show, which

795
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: I would pay for.

796
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: Really yeah.

797
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: Sometimes they'd be like, oh, yeah, can I get four?

798
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: And I'd be like, yep, that's two hundred bucks. Okay,

799
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: it would be but I was like, it's just an investment.

800
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: Would and even if they didn't come, it would be

801
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: like I'm with the Ian Sinclair play.

802
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, yeah, yeah, can I get And I

803
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I've paid so much money.

804
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: But anyway, but even if they didn't see the show,

805
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: they would read the thing and it was nice. It

806
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: would be like my agent would send them out and

807
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: be like Claire would like you to invite you, but

808
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: I'd put together the email and I'd be like, Hey,

809
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm doing this play and I'm really proud of my

810
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: work and I'm playing this character. So that really I

811
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: think that worked. And then the other thing that I

812
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: did was I just wrote my own work and put

813
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: on my own play River, which was a one woman show,

814
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: because I was like, I know what I can do,

815
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: and no one's really giving me a shot, so I'm

816
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: just going to write the perfect thing that I would

817
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: like to perform. And it was a one hour character

818
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: monologue which kind of like showcased my comedy and like

819
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: a little bit of like you know, poignant moments and

820
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: bittersweet and it was quite like people would cry a

821
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 3: lot watching it, so it was kind of like what

822
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 3: I Yeah, it was really and it was a gentle

823
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: show to perform, like it didn't need much of me.

824
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: I even like wrote in that I ate three different

825
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: snacks in the hour because I was like, I love eating's,

826
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: so I did. I just wrote like that something I

827
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: really And then I paid a Sydney Theater Company.

828
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Director to direct it.

829
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: I paid her like professional wage and paid for flights

830
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: and worked six jobs to pay like I was, I

831
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: worked really hard and then I invested my money in

832
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: my career and yeah, so and then I think that

833
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: kind of helped as well, so they would be I

834
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: think some pieces of advice.

835
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good I mean I love the

836
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: I love the like getting the quotes of the play,

837
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: like from people that to see the play, and then

838
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: inviting casting directors because I think people think, oh, well,

839
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: if I don't have a rap cast directors don't know

840
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: I exist, and I'm like, no, you could.

841
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

842
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: And another thing I really like doing is if I

843
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: did get if I booked like a TV commercial or

844
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: booked an acting job, I would call the casting and

845
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: thank them. And sometimes that feels a bit like brown nosing.

846
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: But I've found out from someone who'd worked at a

847
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: casting director that they would really like that. They were like,

848
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: give them a call, and I was like, what, you

849
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: can just call them and they were like, just give

850
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 3: them a call. I think they'll like it. And it's

851
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: because they do so much work and they often get overlooked.

852
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: Once you get the job, you know, you go oh yay,

853
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: thank you agent, oh thank you director, but you don't

854
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: think about the person that might have really pushed for

855
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: you and championed you.

856
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

857
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: And Amanda Mitchell who cast me and played Dirty and

858
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: gold Diggers and Austin, which I just did. She has

859
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: been a real advocate of mine. And I'm really like you,

860
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 3: you don't want to kind of like be like thank

861
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: you so much, thank you much, but you just want

862
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: to like acknowledge that someone has seen something in you

863
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: and believed in you. And so yeah, that's another thing

864
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: that is helpful, which you can really try and nurture

865
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 3: those relationships without it looking like you're being too needy

866
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 3: or sucking up or like trying to like be transactional,

867
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: just acknowledging like hey, thank you. That's I remember, like

868
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: I got a I got three commercials with one with

869
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: one casting directory here, and I was like, that's really

870
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 3: taking the pressure off, like paying my bills, thank you

871
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: so much. And I baked brownies that may have been

872
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: too much.

873
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh no, I was gonna say every time when I

874
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 2: used to do morning TV, I'd always take like I'd

875
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: make like trail mixes and stuff. I'd take it into

876
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: the whole like makeup crew.

877
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 3: The producers totally. Taylor Swift used to do it. She'd

878
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: like go in and bake cookies. I just think it shows,

879
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 3: it just nurtures the relationship. And I like to think

880
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: people will think of you fondly. They'll think of you,

881
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: think of a cookie like them.

882
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: Acts of kindness, it's like a really nice like gestures

883
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: and all that. Like, yeah, I always I remember I

884
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: went to an acting school here in LA and the

885
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: teacher our homework week one was random act of kindness,

886
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: so you had to do something kind for someone.

887
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: But I remember this, you put a note in someone's shoe.

888
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey, yeah, I did it anonymously, but I

889
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: was cheeky because I worked at the Oaks. Yeah, so

890
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: like I didn't admit to it. I got to see

891
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: the aftermaths, which you're not been to get to do.

892
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: But like it's kind of cool when you get out

893
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: of it, because I think like acting can be and

894
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: can sometimes feel like a bit of an ego thing

895
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: where you're like pushing yourself pushing yourself up. So I

896
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: think this like almost flipping it to be like just

897
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: kindness as well. Like and I think people want to

898
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: work with nice people.

899
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think another thing that really worked to

900
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: me is I would go to a lot of opening

901
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: nights of theater and I would be in the four yer,

902
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't be schmoozing or networking.

903
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: I'd just be like making friends.

904
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: And I think if a friendship is genuine, and you know,

905
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: we don't want anything from anyone, you're just like how

906
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: are you going or how's it? Then people just start

907
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: to kind of like get to know you in that way,

908
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: because I think the industry is also built on relationships,

909
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: and if you have genuine relationships, people want to work

910
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: with people that they like one hundred percent.

911
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: Nearly every creative I reckon I've been viewed has said

912
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: your talent might get you the first job or get

913
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: you in the door, but it's like your personality and

914
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: like how kind you are is how you usually keep

915
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: the job. Yeah, and I think you know that because

916
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: talking off Mike, how like the great you want to

917
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: keep working with the great people. Yes, So, okay, do

918
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: you ever get imposter syndrome? Like you were on set

919
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: with so many greats in play Dirty, Like, is there

920
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: ever a moment where you're like, yes, Okay.

921
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: Good h the whole time?

922
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: Really? I think it was the first the first week

923
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: my anxiety was like I don't really like I would

924
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 3: can worry a bit, but my I have never experienced

925
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: anxiety like this.

926
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: It was like you know people say my anxiety was

927
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: through the roof.

928
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just felt like it was like my eyeballs,

929
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: Like I was just like like I couldn't breathe, and

930
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: it was Yeah, every day I would like I just

931
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: I just like be in my trailer, like looking around,

932
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: like the biggest trailer I've ever had, like waiting to

933
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: go to set, and I'd just sort of be like,

934
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: oh my god, my god, I got it. But I

935
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: kind of like I worked with my with my career

936
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: coach a lot on and just like feeling like I

937
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 3: deserve to be there, and eventually I just kind of

938
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: like broke through because I was just getting in my

939
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: own way and I just had to kind of like

940
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: in the end, I had a bit of a sort

941
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: of like fuck you, kind of like I'm just going

942
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: to do what I do and do it well. So

943
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: that was sort of like what I think, because I

944
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: was surrounded with such great actors, I didn't want to

945
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: step on any toes or take up space. Yeah, but

946
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: I think if you're the character is playing and doing comedy,

947
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: you've got to be bold and brave and courageous and

948
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: not scared to kind of put yourself out there.

949
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: So I just kind of went and just did it.

950
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was going to say, because comedy would

951
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: call for you to be like very connected to your

952
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: like yeah, vessel and self. But one of your first scenes,

953
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: obviously it probably isn't shot chronologically, but like the first

954
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: time I saw you in the movie, Yeah, thank you

955
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: for the screen And by the way, you're so fun.

956
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, Matt, we've got to screen us, fix it

957
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: up in bed and watch it's a watermarks.

958
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: He's so fun.

959
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: But one of your first scenes, it's like marky effing Mark, Yeah,

960
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: like putting a map down and like talking directly to you. Yeah,

961
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: And I'm like shiver me timbers like that. Like again

962
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: that I don't know what your first scene was, but

963
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: like for us the audience, and like, remember, I'm watching

964
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: it essentially rooting for you, Like That's how I'm watching it,

965
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: and I'm like the first time or like the second

966
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: or third time we see you, like in that first

967
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: chunk is like Mark Wahlberg talking directly his eyeline, is

968
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: you talking directly to you? Like that for me would

969
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: have been an outer body moment.

970
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was totally out of body. The

971
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: whole thing is out of the body. And sometimes I'd

972
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: be like on set and there'd be a set photographer

973
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: and he'd be taking photos and I'd be like, oh,

974
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: he's there, and I'd be like, hang a minute, there's

975
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: gonna be a photo of me and Mark and Keegan

976
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: and Shane.

977
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna been this photo because this is happening, Like

978
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: it was really like.

979
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 3: But I think the thing that kind of got me

980
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: through was that meeting with Shane before I got the job,

981
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: Like he really responded to my tape and responded to

982
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: my work, and he really wanted me to bring my

983
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: ideas and bring my offers, and I felt like he'd

984
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: again like advocate of me, champion me.

985
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to let him down, and I

986
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I didn't want him to.

987
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: Be like I gave this girl a roll and she

988
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: said she would bring all these offers and then she

989
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: didn't do anything. She just like sat in the corner.

990
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: So I really wanted to, like, I didn't want to

991
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: let him down, And that was a thing that kind

992
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 3: of got me over the imposter syndrome and like made

993
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: me kind of like not be put off by amazing

994
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: people all around me, because you don't want.

995
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: To be put off, but like, yeah I didn't.

996
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: That was what kind of pulled me through, was like

997
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: I've got to prove to him that he made the

998
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: right choice.

999
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: I love it.

1000
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to ask you because this is a

1001
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: fear of my own, So this is a very selfish question.

1002
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1003
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: But when you're on set and there's a lot of

1004
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: chaos around you, because you've got essentially like what we

1005
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: see when we watched movies is like not at all

1006
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: what's going on.

1007
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Like there's like.

1008
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: Camera like multiple angles going on, lights, and then you've

1009
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: got boom mics and sound. How do you keep yourself

1010
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: grounded and like super connected to like why you're there,

1011
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: what you're doing as far as the character goes, while

1012
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: there's quite a lot of chaos around you.

1013
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 3: I think one thing that helps is I have really

1014
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: bad eyesight, so I can't see much. Yeah, I can

1015
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: barely see the other actor on their mark, so I'm

1016
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: able to like blur out the periphery. But I think

1017
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: so sometimes I will, like if so when I'm on

1018
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: a set, I don't you know there's like video village

1019
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: where like the director and the producers and the writers

1020
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: and everyone are watching the split screen what's being filmed.

1021
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: I never sit there. I avoid that area. I don't

1022
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: sit there. When I have a scene off, I don't

1023
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: think about it. I put it out of mine because

1024
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 3: then I kind of like pop outside myself and think

1025
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: about how there are twenty people watching me right now

1026
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: and how am I being perceived? And I say, like

1027
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: when I did gold Diggers, I was in like almost

1028
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 3: every scene, and on the last day, like I didn't

1029
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: have a scene that I sat with them and I

1030
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: was like, hey, guys, it was nothing personal. I just

1031
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: like I just couldn't think about the fact that you're

1032
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: all here. So that helps, is I just like, don't

1033
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: think about it and just think about like it's me

1034
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: and this other person, and then I block everything else

1035
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 3: out and I just yeah, I think if you try

1036
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: to avoid the thought that people watch the thing with

1037
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: the with play dirty, which was really another kind of

1038
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: interesting challenge was that because Shane was so far away,

1039
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: he would give direction over a microphone.

1040
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: So usually a.

1041
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: Director will come up and be like, hey, hey, so

1042
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: how are you going. Yeah, with the scene, I think

1043
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: maybe trying a little bit more like pull it back

1044
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: a bit. He'd be like, ah, Brenda, and everyone would

1045
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: hear which is my character name, and he'd be like,

1046
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: can you are have a little more fun with it,

1047
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: like you like your tape, like your audition, And I'm like, okay, yep,

1048
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: I can do that. But now a hundred people know

1049
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: what I'm going to try and do with this take, like,

1050
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: and they'll know if I don't do it or if

1051
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: I fail. So that was another thing that made me

1052
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 3: feel quite witnessed. Yeah, but yeah, it was just about

1053
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: sort of like just just be in the room, like

1054
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: what Ian said, just just be in a room, just

1055
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: don't Yeah, it's I'm just it's denial.

1056
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: I think that's how I get how I do it.

1057
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: And also it sounds like the art of being like

1058
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: super present in that moment and just like yeah with whoever.

1059
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: And actually I find I avoid sugar when I'm filming,

1060
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: and I avoid caffeine because I think focus is really important.

1061
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: And so when like we did class verse seven, I

1062
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: wasn't drinking coffee and wouldn't have sugar, and I'd notice,

1063
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: like the girls would have a coffee and then they dip,

1064
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: and then they have another coffee, and then they'd have

1065
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: like sugar, and I'd noticed that they'd all get silly

1066
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: and then they'd all crash, and then they'd all get

1067
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: hyper and then they Yeah, it was really interesting to

1068
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: kind of observe that. I think a lot of you

1069
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 3: have their long days and you can like build your

1070
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: stamina up, but like focus is really important, and so

1071
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 3: I think also I just cut out caffeine when I'm

1072
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 3: filming because it means I can just have a nap

1073
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: if I have like a scene off, which is really

1074
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: important to just be able to like get that sleep

1075
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: and you can. But yeah, that's another thing that I find,

1076
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 3: like just to be able to locking is like focus.

1077
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: And I notice, and I hope you don't mud me

1078
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: saying this, but like ahead of the premier, you're like, yeah, yeah,

1079
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: I'm not drinking any booze ahead of Like.

1080
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: My brain loves that. Like I love a.

1081
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: Lock in moment because there's something especially when you're you've

1082
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: shared about like confidence is like something you've worked with

1083
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: with your career coach. I always think when you know

1084
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: that you're doing things that your like physical body and

1085
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 2: mind is going to resonate so well with whether it's booze,

1086
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: whether it's sugar, whether it's caffeine. That is also empowering

1087
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: because again, you're going to be on that red carpet

1088
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: or you're going to be on set going hang and

1089
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: I've done everything I can emotionally, mentally, physically. It's one

1090
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: part of and like mentally working with your career. You

1091
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: know a coach as well, and I think it's one

1092
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: part of just knowing you're showing up the very pest

1093
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: that you can on that day.

1094
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: And I think that that is very empowering.

1095
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: And also like the way you talked about like getting

1096
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: a note and just being able to go okay, cool,

1097
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: like let just settle in and yep, and be focused

1098
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: enough to not get caught in it, like whereas if

1099
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: you were coming off of sugar high, you might have.

1100
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: Been like, oh am I a caffeine, I get anxious

1101
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: or yeah, totally.

1102
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: I think it just like that's powerful knowing you like

1103
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: it's just also understanding your own traits as a yes,

1104
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 2: and like leaning into another Another actress I had food.

1105
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: She was on Obi Wan Kenobi, and she talked about

1106
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: the same thing. She pulls all caffeine out, all sugars

1107
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: and like green juices every day. She's like it means

1108
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: when she's on set, like nothing else is left to

1109
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: the Yeah, and you're like your immune systems at it's best.

1110
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: You're everything.

1111
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: You're kind of like they're and you're like back to

1112
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 2: that Olympian kind of like you're putting the best out

1113
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: that you can.

1114
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Totally.

1115
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't drink when I was filming Play Dirty

1116
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 3: for two months and I didn't Yeah, no caffeine and sugar.

1117
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: And then also when I did the Gold Diggers press,

1118
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 3: I wasn't drinking And that was a really good moment

1119
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: because I proved to myself that I don't need to

1120
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: be you know, like when we did the project like

1121
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 3: that we're in the green.

1122
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: Room, they're like you want you want to be you

1123
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: want a whine and I was like, oh, the cooks are,

1124
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: which is caffeine.

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00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: But I was like and being able to be on

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00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: that do do press and interviews and know that I

1127
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 3: don't need alcohol to be good at you know, banter

1128
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: or entertaining was like a really good lesson because now

1129
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 3: that's going to be my rule and I do publicity

1130
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: is like you don't you know, you know, you see

1131
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: people in Graham Norton and they're like having a wine,

1132
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: which just looks really lovely. Actually, But yeah, I think

1133
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 3: I think my brain just works quicker and better and

1134
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: I'm less kind of chaotic I had had when I

1135
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 3: flew in for the Class of O seven premiere, I

1136
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 3: had had like quite a few champagnes with the girls

1137
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 3: in the while we're getting ready, and then we did

1138
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 3: the red carpet and they were like the photographers were

1139
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: like open out, open out, and I was having a

1140
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: photo with my boyfriend and then I started like taking

1141
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: his jacket off, which was funny, and they loved the photos.

1142
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: But I think it was because of the champagne.

1143
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just maybe got to rain that in.

1144
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah no, but I mean you're gonna have fun though

1145
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: your quirkiness, and you're like that's I think that's a

1146
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: great trait to have to But I also think it's

1147
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: just about like knowing knowing, knowing when and when you

1148
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 2: can when you can't get what feels good and what like, yeah, yeah,

1149
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: you're inspiring me, Like this is so exciting. I love

1150
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: hearing this, Like I feel I'm so glad that you're

1151
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: spending more time in LA because I feel like you're

1152
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: gonna you're such a good accountability bud, that's what.

1153
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: It feels like. Hey, that's what I'm here for.

1154
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we have been talking for so long. Yeah,

1155
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: we're at fifty minutes. No, no, this has no keeping

1156
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: it all. Listen to it on two times. You're no,

1157
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: you're too good. So to the audience. Play dirty. They'll

1158
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: be able to see everywhere now yep. And I'm going

1159
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: to pop your instat in the show notes as well,

1160
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: because I feel like we should all be following alone.

1161
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 3: We should all be following along on my journey. Yeah,

1162
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: it's going to be such an interesting journey of my

1163
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: watercolor painting and brown roundlings and whatever else like live.

1164
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you someone that just because I know you've

1165
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: got reps in Australia as well. Do you essentially just

1166
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: like follow the work so you'll go to Australia if

1167
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: you've got work.

1168
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll like if work.

1169
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: Pops off here in America here or can or wherever

1170
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 2: it takes you.

1171
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm just following the work I've got.

1172
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: I do voiceovers to Australia so that keeps me h employed. Yeah,

1173
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 3: I'm the voice of UI, are you. I'll do it

1174
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: for the listener.

1175
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, You'll always be you. So find insurance.

1176
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: That's a bit more U shaped euie you insured. That's

1177
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: a little ad for UI in there.

1178
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: Can you do? Can you do the Hello? Hello? Hello?

1179
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: You doing it the stuff? Yeah? Hello, hello hello someone?

1180
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: So that's good. That keeps me, keeps me busy, so good.

1181
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: We were listening to your Quantest Tasmania ad last night, yes,

1182
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: and I was because I have to deep dive to

1183
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: prep episodes. And Matt like fully, was in composing mode

1184
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: for something else. But for some reason, we were both

1185
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: working with our headphones last night and he turned around

1186
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: and he's.

1187
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: Like, oh, Claire's really good.

1188
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: Because his brain must have been thinking about like the

1189
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: audio side. Yes, yes, well, so look at you killing it.

1190
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what's next for you. And

1191
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: I'll be cheering you on and you're always welcome back

1192
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: on this pod mate.

1193
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, And I would like to say

1194
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: thank you for your endless efforts and hard work.

1195
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: It's so impressive.

1196
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 3: Like I was researching like some other podcasts and everyone

1197
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: sort of taps out after nine episodes or twenty episodes

1198
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 3: and you've been doing it for seven years?

1199
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: Is it five?

1200
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've I think we've just hit I think we've

1201
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: just hit seven.

1202
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. Six or seven. I could

1203
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: actually do it, but we're over seven hundred aps.

1204
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: It's so impressive your work ethic and yeah, the way

1205
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: you persevere and it's and your LA Diaries have been

1206
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 3: like a kind of north star to me of like Okay,

1207
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: Lola's over there doing it.

1208
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I just gotta keep doing it.

1209
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's been really amazing to have you to listen,

1210
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 3: so thank you.

1211
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: Do you know I've made like genuine friends from the

1212
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: LA Diaries, Like I've got another screenwriter friend that lives

1213
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: out here who you would love, by the way, also Aussie,

1214
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: and she just wrote to me and she's like, I

1215
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: just picked up my groceries from Trader Joe's listening to

1216
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: LA Diary And it was the diary that I did

1217
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: where I was like, this week, so.

1218
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: You're vulnerable one? Yeah, I remember that one that was

1219
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: last year, right, Yeah, that one. I was like this

1220
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: is so.

1221
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: Shit, Like I was just in it, and she was like,

1222
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: can we grab a coffee because I just feel like

1223
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm in the same boat, and it's just been so

1224
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: nice to have, like.

1225
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, will you put yourself out there when you do

1226
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: those diaries, and like it's a lot to be vulnerable,

1227
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: and you know, do it every week and I think

1228
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: it's people. You probably don't know how many people you

1229
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 3: are helping or inspiring.

1230
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: So oh mate, Well, it's been an honor to have

1231
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: you on. I can't wait to see what's next and

1232
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: I cannot wait for you the listener to see play Dirty.

1233
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: You are so funny in it.

1234
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1235
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: You have this hilarious line where you're like wearing the

1236
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: tightest little shirt when.

1237
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and what's the line? What do you say?

1238
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: Where did Parker get this baby gap? Which I also

1239
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: came up with, did you? Yeah?

1240
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: So that's been nice to see, like which ideas of

1241
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 3: mine made it in well?

1242
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: And also like that's one thing to improve, but that's

1243
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: another thing to improve with an American viewpoint.

1244
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah American, Yeah, American references. I didn't.

1245
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 3: I came up with another one, which was like the

1246
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: bed bath and beyond, Yeah, that was my idea as well.

1247
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, to improvise in an American accents really hard

1248
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: because you have the idea and then you have to

1249
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: like run it through a quick filter of flags.

1250
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: That yeah, I found improv in LA so hard because

1251
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: I didn't understand any of the references.

1252
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, They'll be like and.

1253
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: You're at six flags and I'm like, what what is that?

1254
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: And then they'd have to spend five minutes explain to

1255
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: me what six flags is and.

1256
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: Do you kind of ruin the moment, you know what

1257
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean?

1258
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's a yeah, that is a beast.

1259
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: So you are amazing, my friend. I cannot wait to

1260
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: see what's next for you and can't wait to hang

1261
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: out with you next.

1262
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be able to. I really want to.

1263
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: I just really want to be a champion of yours,

1264
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: my friend.

1265
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. That's so lovely. See you soon,

1266
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: see you later. Bye.

1267
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.

1268
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: As always, thank you to our.

1269
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: Guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. I'm at

1270
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: Yamo Lollerberry.

1271
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: This potty my word for podcast is available.

1272
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: On all streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe,

1273
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,319
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