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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily OS.

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Speaker 2: Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Daily OS. It's Tuesday, the eighth of October. I'm Sam,

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Speaker 2: I'm Zara not for profit music Festival. Ability Fest is

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Speaker 2: Australia's first all accessible music festival and one of the

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Speaker 2: leading torch bearers globally in inclusive events. On today's podcast,

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Speaker 2: we're joined by former Australian of the Year Dylan Orcott,

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Speaker 2: the curator and founder of the festival, to discuss with

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Speaker 2: him what makes this festival different, the current barriers that

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Speaker 2: music festivals in Australia, and whether ability Fest should be

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Speaker 2: there in the future. That'll all make sense when you

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Speaker 2: listen to the longer chat I have with Dylan straight

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Speaker 2: after the headlines. But first, Sarah, what is making news

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Speaker 3: Independent Senator Fatima Payman is expected to announce her new

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Speaker 3: political party this week. Payman quit the Labour Party earlier

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Speaker 3: this year, saying her values no longer aligned with those

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Speaker 3: she crossed the floor on a motion calling on the

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Speaker 3: Senate to recognize the State of Palestine. Payman herself is

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Speaker 3: not up for reelection until twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: The Iranian government has summoned Australian ambassador to Iran in

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Speaker 2: month to answer for what Iranian media describes as Australia's

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Speaker 2: quote repeated bias in its public statements relating to the

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Speaker 2: ongoing conflict in the Middle East. In a statement, Australia's

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Speaker 2: Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade or DEFAT, said Australia

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Speaker 2: makes no apology for the views it has expressed about

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Speaker 3: Authorities in Florida have issued the largest evacuation order in

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Speaker 3: the state since twenty seventeen's Hurricane Erma, just two weeks

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Speaker 3: after a Category four storm, Hurricane Helene caused massive damage.

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Speaker 2: And today's good news, researches from the University of Queensland

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Speaker 2: have discovered a molecule in the lethal venom of a

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Speaker 2: funnel web spider that could be used to minimize the

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Speaker 2: into the molecule's use will now begin, with the goal

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Speaker 2: fifty five thousand Australians have a heart attack every year. Dylan,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us on the podcast this morning.

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Speaker 2: The first thing I wanted to say is that we're friends,

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Speaker 2: leads into my first question, which is I've been to

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Speaker 2: music festivals with you in the past, and I have

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Speaker 2: a vivid memory of me asking you to come with

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Speaker 2: me to see an act and you saying, look, I'm

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Speaker 2: just not quite sure if I'm going to do that

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Speaker 2: journey this early in the day. I'm going to do

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Speaker 2: don't mind me bringing this up because we had that

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Speaker 4: High out of my day? On public record? We're friends,

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Speaker 2: I love that it's well known from the last time

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Speaker 1: Oh no, exactly right. Or look mate, growing up when

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Speaker 1: such thing as accessibility for people with disability. Do you

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Speaker 1: consumers with disability. Do you know why they should care,

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Speaker 1: because it's good business, because we like music just like

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Speaker 4: But do you know how it made me? It made

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Speaker 1: It made me feel like an inconvenience to my friends sometimes,

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Speaker 1: how you look, your disability. People are just there for

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Speaker 2: So I remember on that occasion, the issue was that

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Speaker 2: But zooming out a bit and perhaps not talking about

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Speaker 1: also the software as well. Staff not having education around disability, right,

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Speaker 1: some of them are harder than others to overcome. But

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Speaker 1: what we try and do at Ability Fest is kind

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Speaker 1: of set a gold medal standard of what it is

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Speaker 1: the two different things, and they go hand in hand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the first ability Fest is in Melbourne on

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Speaker 1: Were Turan Baby, We're Turin.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible, it's grown a lot in the couple of

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Speaker 4: You know what you would first notice that it's just

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Speaker 2: It's really good music.

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Speaker 1: It's just a fucking good party. Yeah, that it's just

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Speaker 1: an awesome party, brother, That's what you'd notice first and foremost. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: There are things like elevated platforms so people like myself

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Speaker 1: other mobility eight pathways you just talked about gravel and grass.

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Speaker 1: They're called haptic suits. How cales this?

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Speaker 4: So you can say you're at the main stage, the

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Speaker 1: Or the scient disco and if you can't hear the music,

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Speaker 1: is that. We also had fifty bartenders at ability Fest

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Speaker 1: We try and think and kate for everything. We have

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Speaker 4: It's a pretty beautiful culture, there isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that it's a sense that nobody has

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Speaker 2: And I personally every year learn more and more. I

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Speaker 2: That's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I learned as well. Mate, Like people think

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Speaker 1: I'm some disability di alama who's got all the disability

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I think the core

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Speaker 1: We have access consultants from my firm GSA who will

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Speaker 1: I'm like, how was it? And I'd like this was sick?

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Speaker 1: Do this next time? We're like done, you know what

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Speaker 1: And you know the best thing about Ability Fest as well,

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Speaker 1: it's all going to a good cause. Every single dollar

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Speaker 4: But where nothing without support of people like you made

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Speaker 1: Are get to come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, firstly, the Victorian and Queensland government events so

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Speaker 2: Who's the onus on Well, it's on.

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Speaker 1: Both to be honest. What we find in not just

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Speaker 1: getting better, but it's about listening to our community about

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Speaker 1: to invest in this, we're really proud of that. We're

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Speaker 1: We build our site and then on Friday, the day

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Speaker 1: We show them their platforms, the pathways, the sensory room,

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Speaker 2: Last question for me, Dylan, So if you're saying that

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Speaker 2: Is the ultimate aim here for you for there to

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Speaker 2: Would that be success to you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Matelit My success in life is to be redundant

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Speaker 1: as an advocate, as a motivatial speaker, as everything that

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Speaker 1: I do, Mate, I just want I don't want to

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Speaker 1: You know. It can't just be a select couple of

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Speaker 4: Up every day and go Oh, how am I going

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Speaker 1: What am I going to go?

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Speaker 4: No, mate, I just get up and go how am

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Speaker 1: And what cool shit can I do that I love

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Speaker 1: doing that might make a change and change perceptions. You know,

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Speaker 1: if every single festival around the world had accessibility features

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Speaker 1: And that's what I want, I really do. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that that's awesome. That's so cool, mate, but you know,

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Speaker 1: And it made me pumped. And that's what Literally, that's

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying advocates. We'll say otherwise, but we are.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's full steam ahead to Ability Fest on the nineteenth.

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Speaker 2: I'll be at the Melbourne one there with you, Dylan,

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Speaker 2: but I'm so excited that it's in Brisbane as well. Dylan,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us. I'll throw a

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Speaker 2: link for the ticket in today's show notes. But a's

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Speaker 2: a real example. I think of industry, public sector, private

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Speaker 1: And mate, I'll be there if you're comfortability first and

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Speaker 4: I'm there for.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, please buy a ticket. It's all going a

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Speaker 1: good home at the Delannock Got Foundation. And if you

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Speaker 1: buy a ticket, you win a new play car, you

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Speaker 1: win a key, you go on the draw. So tickets

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Speaker 1: still available. I'll see you all in Melbourne, Britty.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, dell Well.

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