1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Tuesday, 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: the eighteenth of May. My name is Sam Kazowski and 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: helping me make sense of today's news is Zara Sideline. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Making news today oil refineries in Australia. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Samowa's new PM, some. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: Good news about a tiger's eye. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: And a chat about borders. Here's today's Daily Digest. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: New South Wales Premier gladys Bury Jiclian has said the 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: state will need to administer an additional nine million COVID 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: nineteen vaccines to consider reopening international borders. At the time 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: of writing, nine hundred and twenty six two hundred and 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: forty two vaccine doses have been administered by New South 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Wales Health, the GP Network and Commonwealth clinics. The Premier said, 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: we have around six million adults and you would think 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: at least five million should be vaccinated before we can 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: have those conversations. We're going to have a chat about 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: the borders later in the podcast. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: All these two remaining oil refineries will operate for at 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: least another six years after the federal government reached a 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: deal with fuel suppliers Ampoll and Viva Energy. The multi 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: billion dollar rescue package details were announced by PM Scott 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: Morrison yesterday and aim to secure long term domestic production 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: of petrol and fast track a change to better quality fuel. 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: The announcement came after two of the final four refineries 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: in Australia announced their closures in the last six months. 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: Samoa is on the verge of swearing in its first 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: new prime minister in over twenty two years, and first 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: female prime minister ever. This comes after a five week 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: political deadlock post election that saw the opposition party and 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: the incumbent party both win twenty five seats each. The 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: incumbent party now has the majority to lead after Samoa's 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court handed down two key rulings in its favor. 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court has ordered Samoa's parliament to sit within 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: forty five days of the April nine election, and that's 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: May twenty four. 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: Finally to the good news, and I would really recommend 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: having a look at the photos of this very very 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: cute tiger. A seventeen year old tiger has received what 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: is believed to be a world first I saving procedure 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: surgeon doctor David Williams, who sports an epic bow tie 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: in the photo, and let Steve philp perform the surgery 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: at the University of Cambridge. For anyone that wants to 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: know how the tiger is doing. A Wildlife park director, 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: her name's Rebecca Willers, she commented, saying that her coordination 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: the tigers that is seems much better now and the 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: best thing is the operation has eradicated the need for 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Rutner to have her eye drops, and she never was 48 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: keen on those since the beginning of the pandemic. One 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: thing that just continues to come up is this question 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: about when the borders are due to open, and we 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: keep getting told different times, whether that's dependent on the 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: vaccine rollout or about how other countries are tracking with 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: COVID nineteen. And of course, while we have certainly progressed 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: in this conversation, we already have a trans Tasman bubble. 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: It is looking likely the borders are set to remain 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: shut until at least twenty twenty two, and we found 57 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: that out in the budget last week. So part of 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: Josh Bridenberg's budget set out that the federal government is 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: not anticipating the borders will open for mid twenty twenty two. Understandably, 60 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: that has upset a lot of ossies who are either 61 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: stuck overseas or not stuck, but really just want to 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: come home and see some family. And yesterday Virgin, Australia's 63 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: new chief executive, had quite a bit to say about it. 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: So the CEO of Virgin was speaking at a business 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: lunch in Brisbane yesterday and she said she didn't agree 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: with the current stated reopening date of mid twenty twenty two, 67 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: instead suggesting that suggesting that COVID nineteen will be part 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: of the community and will become sick with COVID in 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: the same way that we become sick with the flu. 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: She even went as far as saying some people may die, 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: but it will be way smaller than with the flu. 72 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: She also added that quote well forgetting the fact that 73 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: we've learned how to live with lots of viral and 74 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: challenges over the years, and we've got to learn how 75 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: to live with this. So it's very clear that the 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: federal government is facing quite a bit of pressure from 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: specifically the travel industry to open up earlier than twenty 78 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: twenty two. And before I go on, I just want 79 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: to clarify something because this often comes up in chats 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: that I'm having with friends when we refer to the 81 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: border being closed, we're talking about the fact that it 82 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: is closed to anybody that is not an Australian citizen. 83 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: So people that are living overseas and might have a 84 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: partner who is American or British or anything else, they're 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: not able to travel into Australia. So it's not that 86 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Ozzies can't get back in though those in India until 87 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: last weekend weren't able to, but rather that anyone that's 88 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: not an Australian citizen can't visit. So that means that 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: we're talking about zero tourism until at least twenty twenty two. 90 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: There also seems to be, as we talked about at 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of the POD, a bit of pressure from 92 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: the New South Wales government to open up a little 93 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: bit quicker. Do you think that's because of the pressure 94 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: they're receiving from the tourism sector here in New South Wales. 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: It's unclear where that pressure originates from, but given that 96 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: the push is being led by the treasure it's likely 97 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: to be because of the economic cost of not opening up. 98 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: So New South Wales Treasure Don Perrete has called for 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: Australia's reopening to be linked to vaccine targets, and that's 100 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: where Gladys Beygiclian's comments come in, because she was saying 101 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: that that conversation will only happen once New South Wales 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: has vaccinated a certain number of people in the state. 103 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: The federal government has been less keen on attaching the 104 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: reopening to specific numbers, and to be honest, that's probably 105 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: because when they first started to set these expectations for 106 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: the vaccine, they dramatically overestimated those numbers and it turned 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: out that they were not able to vaccinate at the 108 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: speed that they were expecting based on a myriad of issues. 109 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: It is not just the New South Wales government who 110 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: was pressuring the federal government to open up a bit quicker. 111 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: Some of Morrison's government has actually also come out and 112 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: said that we need to hurry it up. So Dave Shima, 113 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: the Member for Wentworth, and Jason Flinsky, among others, have 114 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: come out and said that we can't live in this 115 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: hermit nation, which is a criticism of the fact that 116 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: we have been basically shut off to the world for 117 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: the last year and a half. 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Politics aside, what do you think about all of this? 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: Politics aside is not something I usually say, but when 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: I read about these stories, I often think of my 121 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: brother who is in New York and hasn't been able 122 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: to come home to visit, just based on the difficulties 123 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: of having to do two weeks of quarantine and the 124 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: cost associated with that. And I think that we have 125 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: a lot of steps to go before we're going to 126 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: be opening up the borders, and I just look forward 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: to the day really where we can freely travel and 128 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: also protect our citizens. And this is one of those 129 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: policies that have a really human and emotional effect in reality, 130 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: so it's really difficult policy making for the government to 131 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: have to deal with. And I completely understand and respect 132 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: both sides of the argument, but hope that there is 133 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: a time in the not so distant future that we 134 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: can travel freely while being fully vaccinated and protected. 135 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: It seems to me that what's happening here is at 136 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: least in Australia's case, definitely not so for some other 137 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: countries in the world. The COVID nineteen pandemic is moving 138 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: to the stage of becoming somewhat of a regular virus 139 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: and somewhat of another disease that we're going to need 140 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: booster shots for later in life, perhaps every year, and 141 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: a reality of living in the twenty first century, and 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: that will take some adjusting to, just like the pandemic 143 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: took some adjusting to over a year ago. But we 144 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: expect to have many more of these difficult conversations in 145 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: the months ahead. For today, though, that's all we've got 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: time for. 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