1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Now we know that pre selection for the CLP closed 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: in a number of electorates on Friday afternoon. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: As I understand it, and as. 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: We head into an election year, many are starting to 5 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: wonder who both the COLP and the ALP are going 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: to run and what they'll stand for, and in the 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: colp's case, if there really is still the chaos and 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: dysfunction that the Labor Party claims there is. Now joining 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: me on the show is former Chief Minister of the 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Northern Territory and current CLP President Shane Stone. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 2: Good morning to. 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: You, Good morning, Kay, and good morning to all your listeners. 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Now, Shane, how has the pre selection gone so far? 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: Well, we have over forty applications across electorates. I've never 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 3: seen so many, and they are quality people and they 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: are all committed on the very theme of someone has 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 3: to do something and that someone is me, So they 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: have all made a personal commitment to put themselves out there. 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: We need to recover the are the economy, we need 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: to make the territory safe again. So these are very 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: committed people and we will start our pre selections next weekend. 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: So over forty people have put their hands up. 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: We have over twelve for Port Daaruen alone twelve. 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: And these are people who I don't think would normally 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: get involved with the political party, but they've lost confidence 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: in a government that's had three chief ministers in one term, 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: and they just don't believe that Labor is capable of 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: governing the territory going forward. 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I guess many would see Port Darwin and indeed Fong 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: Limb as quite winnable seats for the COLP based on 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: last elections results. What about some of those other electorates. 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Have you got a good number in other electorates? 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: Well, we have multiple candidates all through the northern suburbs 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: and I thought we might have struggled, but the people 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: who stepped up said count me in. Someone has to 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: do something, and I've decided that someone is me. So 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: it's going to be hotly contested in some areas. I 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: of course held Port Darwin for ten years and used 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: to get a thumping result in there, so yes, I 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: agree that that is probably a seat that was always 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: destined to come back to the Conservative side. 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: So are you confident that you'll have strong candidates in 44 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: every electorate? 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: Yes, I am. 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: Now tell me in terms of you know, I guess, 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: in terms of what you deem as winnable, are there 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: seats that that the CELP is currently really focusing on 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: that you do deem as winnable, Well, that. 50 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: Would be a marginal seats campaign. But look, the territory 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: is a small jurisdiction and in all my years, including 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: previously as COLP president back in the eighties, we always 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: took the view that every seat was up for grabs, 54 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 3: so you didn't ever assume there was anything as a 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: safe seal e seat or a safe labor seat. 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Now what do you see as being the major issues 57 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: at this upcoming election in August. 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's instilling confidence back into who comprises the government, 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: but most importantly rebuilding and repairing the economy and making 60 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: a safe and making a safe is whether it's in 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: our workplace, we go to the supermarket, it's on the streets. 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I've just heard horrendous stories up here, but 63 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: it's not just crime in isolation. The economy has collapsed. 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: The worst performing economy in Australia now that's official. COMPSEEC 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: have made it very clear. I mean when I retired 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: back in nineteen ninety nine, we were the lead economy 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: in Australia. We had stuff going everywhere, things happening, and 68 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: I suppose I could be a bit on the generous 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: side and say, oh, well, it's just a blip at 70 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: the moment, but it's consistent the worst economy in Australia, Shane. 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Some people are very unhappy with the current lay of 72 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: the land, but they're not sure if Leah and the 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: colp are capable of turning things around. 74 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: Are they I believe they are and I wouldn't have 75 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: gotten involved if I didn't think that they are up 76 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: to it. I've worked closely with members of the parliamentary wing. 77 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: I've helped them shape policy promises that will be made. 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: I don't think they should go out too far and 79 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: make lots of promises, and we're seeing it at a federal 80 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: level how that plays out. Look, it's pretty straightforward. Repair 81 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: the economy, make the territory safe, give us a sense 82 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: of hope going forward. People have lost confidence in the 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: Labor government. Three chief ministers in one term, Shane. 84 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: Is there still chaos and dysfunction as the Labor Party claims? 85 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, are we going to wind up in a 86 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: situation even as even as you're trying to pre select 87 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: people next weekend, where you know, you might think somebody's 88 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: a fantastic candidate, but the party disagrees and we end 89 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: up with someone Row going into some of those seats. 90 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: Look, it's always fun being involved in a political party. 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: But can I say it's all very well for Labor. 92 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: They are so lacking in confidence in their own organization 93 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: they cancel their annual conference. So come on, fair go 94 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: we're running central Council meetings, We're running management committee. Yes, 95 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: you will always have diversity of opinion within the room, 96 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: but that's because you know, we're a pretty interesting group 97 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 3: of territorianes just wanting to make the place better. 98 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Now, in terms of in terms of sort of diversity, 99 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: have you had a good diverse range of people come 100 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: forward hoping to be pre selected. 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: Yes, without having to actually go out and twist people's arms. 102 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: So there's a good spread of women in there, and 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: people who come from diverse ethnic backgrounds as well as 104 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: the sort of regular Australian europe style. I haven't had 105 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: to actually go and try and fill any gaps at all. 106 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: It's just happened organically. 107 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you, because you are the 108 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: former Coordinator General of the National Recovery and Resilience Agency. 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: In terms of the discussions that we've been having over 110 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: recent days about the response to flooding out in the 111 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: Vic River area, do you feel as though it's been appropriate, 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: particularly when we talk about the concerns that have been 113 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: raised by pastoral less. 114 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's not just the pastorlessness, not just the Vic River, 115 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: it's also the Stuart Highway. And look, you don't have 116 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: too many really top level jobs to do in government, 117 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: but one of them is to keep food on the shelves. 118 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: And when the highway went down, I dug a bit 119 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: deeper on that. I mean, I'll give the Queensland Labor 120 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: government a lot of jew When I work with them 121 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: as the Coordinator General. They subscribe to the principle of betterment, 122 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: in other words, put back better. So if the colvid's 123 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: too low, then raise it up. If the causeway doesn't work, 124 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: build a bridge. Here we had a section of the 125 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: Stewart Highway that had been out for months and months 126 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: and this territory government sat on its hands, so. 127 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: You reckon they could have done more. 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely more, And I kept my counsel. I didn't 129 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: say too much. I thought, well, Murray wat will turn 130 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: up and they'll turn all this around. I mean, anyone 131 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: who saw the photos of the soupermarkets with no food, 132 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: I mean, heavens above that that hasn't happened since the 133 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: sixties fifties. So government failed miserably and just adds the 134 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: whole fabric of a government that's lost its way and 135 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: doesn't know what it's doing. 136 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: Shane, A very quick one before I let you go. 137 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: It's being reported nationally that Senator just nampajimper Price has 138 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: shut down rumors that she could leave the Northern Territory 139 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: to run for the House of Representatives in former Prime 140 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Minister Scott Morrison's seat. So local media Alice Springs News 141 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: was speculation among others, speculating that the shadow Minister for 142 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: Indigenous Australians might move from the Northern Territory, claiming that 143 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: she could neither confirm nor deny those plans. Is she 144 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: leaving the territory? 145 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: Well at the Management Committee on Friday night, and we 146 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: don't normally disclose matters that have discussed, but just Center 147 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: was very keen to reassure people that there was no 148 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: such plan, and in fact, there have been invitations for 149 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: it to standing like art in North Queensland and also 150 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: Macpherson on the Gold case. Jacinta makes it very clear 151 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: she's committed to the territory and I think this is 152 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: just a lot of media talk. I mean it's interesting 153 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: that she is very popular right around the country. 154 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Well, Shanestone, the president of the country Liberal Party, really 155 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: good to speak with you this morning. 156 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on the show. 157 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: Please to be here. 158 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. 159 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: Corni