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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in

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Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the podcast. Today we have Emma Horn, actor, podcaster, content creator,

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Speaker 2: ginormous TikTok following and insta following. Also all round legend.

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Speaker 2: This chat should to you. I feel like, well, this

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Speaker 2: is how it felt to me two butto's having a

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Speaker 2: Kappa pulling oracle cards, and Emma was kind enough to

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Speaker 2: pull an oracle card for you, the listener.

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Speaker 1: I hope you love this chart.

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Speaker 2: It is for anybody, any creative, anyone that just wants

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Speaker 2: to live to the beat of their own drum. I

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Speaker 2: feel like that is Emma in a nutshell. So I

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Speaker 2: hope you love this chart. Emma, You're flipping wonderful. Emma Horn,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the pod, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Tech you.

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Speaker 2: Mate, You're an amazing actor. I can say podcaster, can't

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Speaker 2: I podcaster? Also incredible creator. I have literally inhaled your TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I went back as far as I could go.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what though, I this year I deleted

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Speaker 4: so many while I like private at them like I'm

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Speaker 4: not getting like three hundred because it went back too far.

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Speaker 2: I got back as far as the confessions of the breakup,

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Speaker 2: of the relationship breakup.

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Speaker 3: I hear them, Oh.

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Speaker 1: That's as quite confession.

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Speaker 3: And I left.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I would have left a few because

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Speaker 4: like you want to leave a few, you want to

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Speaker 4: leave some.

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Speaker 2: You definitely left some little sprinkles in there for sure.

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Speaker 4: How good I just deleted? You know, I had tiktoks

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Speaker 4: with my eggs and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So you know.

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Speaker 2: So the thing that I love most about the content

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Speaker 2: you share is it's just very like non filtered, raw vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: You're also really open about mental health ADHD, being neurodivergent.

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Speaker 3: Yep, like, mate, there's not too much that I don't share.

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Speaker 1: I will say, can I ask.

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Speaker 2: A little bit about you sharing like anxiety attacks and

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Speaker 2: kind of like self soothing, Yes, please do no.

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Speaker 1: But like so.

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Speaker 2: Initially to watch that, I'm like, oh, this is kind

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Speaker 2: of confronting to watch because obviously a lot of people

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Speaker 2: have felt those feelings.

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Speaker 1: But seeing you in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Like calm and kind of like process in real time

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Speaker 2: is kind of empowering too, to know that you can.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like okay to feel messy, for lack

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Speaker 2: of a better word. Yeah, is that kind of the

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Speaker 2: reasoning behind sharing this? Is it like I want to

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Speaker 2: like take the mask off and just let people see

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Speaker 2: that it's totally okay to have a shit day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: Are you Are you thinking about my bathroom my bathroom floor?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Videos?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, people really like them, you know. I think, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, it's so easy to like, you know, create like

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Speaker 4: a montage video or like share kind of the aftermath

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Speaker 4: attack or however, you know, overwhelm, which I get a

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Speaker 4: lot and I think I'm so people always A lot

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Speaker 4: of people, actually a lot of men, have an issue

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Speaker 4: around sharing in the moment mental health stuff. They're like,

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Speaker 4: what do you mean she just sits off a phone,

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I literally do that every second

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Speaker 4: of my life. It's so natural for me to sit

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Speaker 4: my phone there. It doesn't like I'm not being like

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Speaker 4: let's put my phone here and now I'll cry. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I'm already whole my phone. We're all on our phones

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Speaker 4: like constantly, and I think, yeah, I just want to

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Speaker 4: share like the realities of it. And instead of kind

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Speaker 4: of being like, look what we can achieve after we

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Speaker 4: can do it, here's all the tips and tricks, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, but this is the reality.

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Speaker 4: Like it's okay, you might see some highlights of my

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Speaker 4: life or anything like that, but this is usually a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of the time. But I find that so empowering.

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Speaker 2: As somebody that can get really overwhelmed, I'm like, oh this,

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Speaker 2: I imagine so many people look at your content and

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Speaker 2: they're like, oh I feel seen. And I love the

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Speaker 2: way you talk about periods and all of that as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but like no, truly, like yeah, just kind of like

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Speaker 2: a solid ten years older than you, we're kind of taboo, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: Like we weren't really like allowed to celebrate our period,

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Speaker 3: Am, I'm like, why are we not sharing it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's insane to me, like I everyone wanted. I

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Speaker 2: Flow I don't even know what to call it, Americans.

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Speaker 4: And because I asked my sisters one day, I was like, guys,

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Speaker 1: Each other's period? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And they were like, oh, so that's what you mean

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Speaker 4: when you say heavy, because that's not mine, like yours

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Speaker 4: is heavy, heavy, And I'm like, fuck, how many people

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Speaker 4: out there are being told like, oh, yeah, that's just

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Speaker 4: a heavy period.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe we're like literally bleeding out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So I shit that online and people.

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Speaker 4: Will like, please show us, but I can't because blood

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Speaker 4: will be censored immediately, which kind of weird because it's

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Speaker 4: period blood.

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Speaker 1: But I get it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, if you want to know, it's heavy and

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Speaker 4: it's full of cloths.

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Speaker 1: Do you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm a nutritionist and we were trained to measure clots

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Speaker 2: like you have to learn. You do a whole semester

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Speaker 2: on periods to another whole semester on the Pooh.

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Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, I'll go my peoo, wouldn't be good.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're traveling, right, like you're in another country.

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Speaker 3: You're traveling.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, it's normal.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's a sign.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like LA suits you. How do you

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Speaker 4: And I think I am hesitant to say that I

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Speaker 4: love it because you know, Australia is such a beautiful country.

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Speaker 4: It feels safe. But coming here I always feel like creatively,

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Speaker 4: so inspired and just I get shit done. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: like I feel so much more like myself. Also, like

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Speaker 4: funnily you had Claire Lovering on the podcast. Yes, we

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Speaker 4: have done LA a couple of times, like around the

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Speaker 4: same time, and we always say like, when we're in LA,

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Speaker 4: you just know what to wear, Like it just comes

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Speaker 4: so easily, like we're just like I just know myself.

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Speaker 4: I just know what to wear. And that's just how

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Speaker 4: I describe it every more like I'm not. It just

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Speaker 1: That's a good sign. I think that's a good barometer

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've also deep dived your videos where you like,

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Speaker 2: don't mind the feeling of fat, And now.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the color shirt. The color of my

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Speaker 4: which is fine, it's okay today, but sometimes it's just not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's interesting that here you don't feel like

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Speaker 2: that way, you know what I mean? That's kind of true, right,

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Speaker 2: Maybe one thing I do feel about America is you're

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Speaker 2: totally free to be used as far as like you

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Speaker 2: can walk down the street, like I just bought my

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Speaker 2: first cowboy hat. We went away and I was wearing

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Speaker 2: the cowboy hat everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: In Australia, I'm like, I could probably only wear that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 4: I think like especially in a really like the tall

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Speaker 4: poppy syndrome is really really prominent, and I think people

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Speaker 4: And here it's I don't know, it feels more celebrated

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Speaker 4: it's more like.

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Speaker 1: Competitive as well.

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Speaker 4: But I think there's more opportunities though, so like people

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Speaker 4: are like, yeah, we get it, like go off, queen, queen,

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Speaker 4: Queen King. They them go do the thing like yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel you. I'm I think I'm on the same

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Speaker 3: I no, there's not, no, there is.

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Speaker 1: You were trying to change a flight where you were like.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to change it and New Zealand. Can

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Speaker 4: we please do a brand colub right.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'll just put my hat in the ring there

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Speaker 2: as well. Faces So okay, I have to say. So

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Speaker 2: you mentioned lovering, she jumped on the pod, and so

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Speaker 2: as soon as she said yees, she jumped on the pod.

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Speaker 1: I started watching Class Fox seven. Yes, aren't you a

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Speaker 1: little dream to watch? Renee? Right? Was your character's name.

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Speaker 3: Renee Williams.

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Speaker 1: Did you have so much fun doing that show?

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Speaker 4: It was such an experience, A wonderful experience I did.

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Speaker 4: It was honestly like one of the most memorable times

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Speaker 2: Was that like a career Like on your I know

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Speaker 2: you've got like I would call you a slashy because

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Speaker 2: you're such an incredible creator and podcast. But acting wise,

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Speaker 2: would you say that was a massive career turning point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd really only done like a feature film, an

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Speaker 4: Ozzie feature film before this show. And it was a dream,

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Speaker 4: truly a dream because it was an all female comedy cast.

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Speaker 3: Like what do you mean? That doesn't come around super often,

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Speaker 3: especially in Australia. And yeah, like I mean, oh.

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Speaker 4: God, I was going through like a heavy breakup at

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Speaker 4: the time, and it just it was a weird experience,

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Speaker 4: but it came at the best time ever. And like

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Speaker 4: I've made honestly, so many of them are my like actual.

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Speaker 1: Best friends now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like me, Claire lovering, Caitlin, Stacey, we're always together here.

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Speaker 4: Like we just had we had dinner last night. Claire

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Speaker 4: made the best cookies. I don't know what's on top

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Speaker 4: of them, but they were really good. And yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: just I'm grateful for that experience, not only for the

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Speaker 4: work aspect of it, but for the people.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a really big blessing.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask a really specific behind the scenes question? Yeah, please,

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Speaker 2: do I see you've got beautiful tattoos? Did they have

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Speaker 2: to color that tattoo in.

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Speaker 1: On your arm? No?

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Speaker 4: She chops off that toe like there's no tomorrow, and

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Speaker 1: So Pie in the Sky.

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Speaker 2: I know this from chit chatting to you that you

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Speaker 4: It's like my favorite role or my favorite show is Penn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Mayan Anna. The creators, I just think they're

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Speaker 4: If you don't know it's them, they're like in their

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Speaker 1: Would you write your own stuff? Yeah, I am writing

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Speaker 3: Time I've I've always I've always had a lot.

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Speaker 4: So now I'm writing my friend also from class off

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Speaker 4: People like people that read to me, They're like, are

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Speaker 1: You go off script because it's your own script. It's you.

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00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's very freeing doing content creation with like

443
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: you can really spread your wings and if you say

444
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: something that you thought you wouldn't like, it doesn't really matter.

445
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: No one's gonna know, right.

446
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 4: Funny enough, though, when you are working with a client,

447
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 4: they some are very specific and they are like, you

448
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 4: need to send us a brief word for word what

449
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 4: your voiceover will be. And there are times where like

450
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, like I've sent a brief and

451
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, but I'm not going to say that really,

452
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 4: like because I work best in the moment, I really do,

453
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm not I have an idiot.

454
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Speaker 1: I can't plan for.

455
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 4: Shit truly, Like it's I struggle and I'm like, I'll

456
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 4: plan this one day, but then I'll have a better

457
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Speaker 4: idea the next day.

458
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Speaker 2: You've been so easy to plan and book in as

459
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Speaker 2: a podcust can I say?

460
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,479
Speaker 4: But I'm like chill in a way, like I'm ye

461
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 4: like kind of flexible.

462
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what its like. Well here i am

463
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: back home.

464
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, can I say when? Because I know, and

465
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Speaker 1: I want to know more about your pod.

466
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: But with pod advertising, it is full blown scripted and

467
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: you have to hit a specific second like you can't

468
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: because they it's like radio ads.

469
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Speaker 1: It's the same concept.

470
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: Yea, so like, but what do you mean pod advertising?

471
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: So like say you do an ad for like say loreal.

472
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: Right, like like an ad on the pod yep, yeah,

473
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: like like an at like a vo like they will

474
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 2: send you the scripted yeah, and they'll send me four versions.

475
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: You have to do them all word for word, but

476
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: you have to do it quick. So sometimes, like Matt,

477
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: who you meant earlier, You'll have to pull my breath

478
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Speaker 2: out so that I can It's so hard. That's hard,

479
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: but you're reading, so it's not like I must learn.

480
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: This word for words like a robot. It's like you

481
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: can still give it your own twang.

482
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Speaker 4: I guess it's just like doing like a voiceover ad, yeah,

483
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 4: on your pod. Yeah, because I yeah, I haven't done

484
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 4: ads on a pod, and I've noticed I'm always like,

485
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: why are people just reading from a script, Like why

486
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 4: aren't they like making it sound natural?

487
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Speaker 1: That's why?

488
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So interestingly, so the red tape with pod veo

489
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 2: advertising is very different to like social media, and social

490
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: media in Australia is highly regulated, whereas Podland is just

491
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: a little is still huge teams and stuff. We're getting

492
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Speaker 2: into the weeds of it at all, but it's fascinating.

493
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: It's just another best speaking of pods to me, what's

494
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: going on with this pot of yours?

495
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: Well, I've just started it.

496
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Speaker 4: When I was here, I had a bunch of different

497
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: ideas and I actually scrapped them all when I came here,

498
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 4: which I love, and I will encourage you. If you've

499
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 4: had an idea that you're sitting on and you've done

500
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: some work on it, but then it doesn't feel like

501
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: it completely aligns with you, scrap it. It's okay, something

502
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 4: new will come Yeah, Like you're meant to go through

503
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 4: that process. And I did that here because I felt

504
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 4: like I was discovering kind of more of the trajectory

505
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: that I kind of wanted. So it's crazy because this

506
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 4: will come out like in next week, right, yeah, but

507
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 4: my pod won't be out yet.

508
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: But that's all right. I have a new pod.

509
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 4: It's called Don't Say That Dada, and basically I've been

510
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 4: inspired by being neurodiverse. My social cues are sometimes off,

511
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 4: and like I tend to overshare a lot in real life.

512
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 4: Obviously do it online, but in real life scenarios.

513
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 3: I tend to get. I tend to have people tell

514
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: me that.

515
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: Like maybe it's inappropriate like to say specific things, or

516
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 4: like maybe don't say that your granddad died on your date.

517
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: I always go to that one because I don't get it.

518
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: Why not?

519
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

520
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we also want one of the first things

521
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: he said to me, yes, because the pacemaker kept him alife, okay.

522
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Speaker 1: With my grandpa?

523
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 4: Yeah wait what yeah exactly, So we share stuff and

524
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: then a story comes.

525
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Speaker 1: Out of it. Yeah, I see no problem in this, And.

526
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Speaker 4: Like if it's for anyone who like feels that they

527
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 4: have to like perform a specific way or like social anxiety, and.

528
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's kind of like talk about talk about

529
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: that stuff.

530
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: So basically, me and a guest each episode we do

531
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Speaker 4: a little sketch in the beginning of a scenario where

532
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: maybe we say what we really want to say and

533
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: we kind of talk about it.

534
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: That's cool.

535
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're recording to EPs today, right, cannot waite?

536
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: Will you send it to me when it comes out, please?

537
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: Because I would love to be fan and watch.

538
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Speaker 3: I think my this.

539
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, I've just realized it's quite Americana, isn't it?

540
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: Is it?

541
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: Heck yeah, oh yeah.

542
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: It feels it feels just throwing.

543
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Speaker 4: The I feel like it's a really good phrase to

544
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 4: say when like anything happens, whether it's good or bad.

545
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: You could be like heck.

546
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's like, yeah, your car break down.

547
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, heck, you're actually correct. I think this. I

548
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: do think this one lands.

549
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

550
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you mentioned about you.

551
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: We've kind of touched on about ADHD.

552
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Speaker 2: Can I ask how you, like how old you were

553
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: when you were diagnosed or learnt about it?

554
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, so not until I was oh gosh, twenty six,

555
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: Oh well yeah, six seven maybe yeah wow.

556
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: And it was.

557
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Speaker 4: Quite strange, like when I started to have the conversations,

558
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Speaker 4: like with my psychologist, just because it's quite emotional, like

559
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff falls into place, and like comments

560
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 4: that have been made about you, especially like I was,

561
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Speaker 4: you know, I was diagnosed with like generalized anxiety when

562
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: I was a teenager, not until I was like eighteen

563
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: when I could go on my own because.

564
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Speaker 3: My parents didn't do that for me.

565
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, I.

566
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Speaker 4: Think I kind of just wanted it started to I think,

567
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say get worse, but I the more I

568
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 4: like kind of like sat into myself and like accepted

569
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: my anxiety, I the more it would come out.

570
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Speaker 3: And I think that comes with unmasking in general.

571
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Speaker 4: I feel like you kind of regress a little bit,

572
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: or it feels like you do because you're kind of

573
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: like exposing a real part of you. And a lot

574
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 4: of my time management, my focus I was having. I

575
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: didn't realize they were like burn out meltdowns from I

576
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: thought it was just it was always I have anxiety.

577
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: I have anxiety, And then we started to go like

578
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: deeper into that, and yeah.

579
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: It was pretty clear that I have ADHD.

580
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: So and you know, the constant comments of being a kid,

581
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: especially being a female, it's like she just talks a lot.

582
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: Her focus isn't great. She's a great team player and

583
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: a good leader, but she just talks a lot and

584
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: she needs to get back on track. And I'm like,

585
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: but like the boy next to me who's like jumping

586
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: up and down and throwing his dragon toys in the air, Yeah,

587
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: that's you know, he's gonna get diagnosed right now.

588
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh wow, Yeah, okay.

589
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: Because it's so much easier for boys, Like it's.

590
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: Oh really so yeah, you felt a bit swept under

591
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: the rug younger.

592
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, especially with like autism and ADHD, it can

593
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: go very undiagnosed in girls because of our ability to

594
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: mask and also just being raised as a girl. You

595
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: do that in general, whether you're neurotypical or you're divergent. Yeah,

596
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 4: like we're expected to perform socially very different to boys.

597
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Oh my goodness.

598
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: And since sharing this all online, have you found people

599
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: like it's helped people reached out to you and being like.

600
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, especially when I share like the struggles of it. Yeah,

601
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: it's that's kind of my whole audience. I guess it's

602
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 4: either you're gay, or you're a divergent like queer or

603
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: going through something or I think there's a lot of

604
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: people trying to figure out what's going on with them.

605
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: And I think I would say, I'm not a big

606
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: I'm not like I share my in the moment kind

607
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: of journey. It's not that I'm trying to educate people

608
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 4: or be like, well, I'm trying to educate through my experience,

609
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: but I'm not coming on as a psychologist and like

610
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: giving facts and things like that.

611
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is my real experience. Maybe you'll relate

612
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: to it. Hopefully it helps you.

613
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

614
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Speaker 2: I think one of my favorite things about your platforms

615
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: is you create a safe space for anyone.

616
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: That's how it feels.

617
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: Having researched you and deep dive for the last kind

618
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: of week about everything you share, I'm like, oh, it

619
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: feels really safe to just like like soaking up your

620
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 2: content really feels like one I'm learning and understanding, but

621
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: also it feels safe for like if you feel those

622
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: things within yourself.

623
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be like, oh, yeah, like I'm not alone.

624
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: I imagine there's probably a lot of feedback you're getting.

625
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: Honestly, even myself though, like the fact that I can

626
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: make content just based on my own life experience and

627
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: people feel comforted by it. I feel comforted by that,

628
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh shit, like we have each other,

629
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: Like we are not alone. We all feel it sometimes,

630
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: but we're really really not. And you know, I know,

631
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: like social media, we all need to like get off

632
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: it sometimes, but for a lot of people it's the

633
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: only place where they can kind of feel seen sometimes.

634
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: Totally, Yeah, I totally yeah, I have to. When you're

635
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: on set and you're like acting being on set, it's

636
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: kind of high pressure.

637
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, very high pressure. Do you have anything like do

638
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: you need to self soothe it all or like ground or.

639
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 2: Is anything that you can do or do you are

640
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: you just like no, I'm kind of like la energy

641
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: where you're like, I'm in the mode, I'm in work zone.

642
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: Hmmm.

643
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: It's interesting when it comes to work, it I feel

644
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: quite different. I think music for me is a big one.

645
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: If I have my headphones with me, I'll be okay. Yeah,

646
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 4: not even just for the music, just for I just

647
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: realized you have headphones on half one. Yeah, not even

648
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 4: just for that, just for like no sensory stuff.

649
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: I feel quite protected.

650
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: But it's funny, like when you ask me that question,

651
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: I I definitely get nervous, but I think I guess

652
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: I'm honestly so used to living in that, so when

653
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: it's coupled with adrenaline, it kind of balance is out.

654
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: Oh that kind of makes it does.

655
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: But I definitely feel.

656
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: I think I feel quite at home, like around that

657
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: sounds stupid to say, like I just feel at home

658
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: around cameras.

659
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: I hate that, but like it's kind of kind of

660
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: environment and like.

661
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: Sound cliche again, but also like I'm not myself and

662
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: myself on my phone camera for sure.

663
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but on set, I don't know what happens truly.

664
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: I think if I'm feeling overwhelmed, I definitely will go

665
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: inward and I need to just take a.

666
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: Second to myself for sure.

667
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I I I will say that I'm not

668
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: very good at well, now I shouldn't say that I'm

669
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: I cope better alone because I'm used to that, Like

670
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: I live alone.

671
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: Don't come find.

672
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: Me if you're don't you have an amazing cat?

673
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: I feel I do well, I'm not, Oh my god,

674
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: chance right now I would be like, bitch, sorry, I

675
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: swear No, you could swear.

676
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have my beautiful chancy cat?

677
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: She probably she's probably my support animal?

678
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah in La. You know you can take

679
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: them everywhere support animals. Oh yeah, like have you not

680
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: noticed every have? Yeah to a CVS, which.

681
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: Is like a complete that's amazing as it should be.

682
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: You get a flight here, they've got their or their

683
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: cats sitting next to them on the flight.

684
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would only I think my cat would. Honestly,

685
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: I don't even know if she'd survive the flight though.

686
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like even when I see it, I'm like, this

687
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: doesn't feel real. Yes, doesn't feel real. Okay, I have.

688
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: A couple of things I want to ask, so young

689
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: actors do listen to this. And I have always felt

690
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: like you can go to acting school and you're kind

691
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: of in this really safe, incredibly creative environment where you're

692
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: constantly learning a script or you're working on a play,

693
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: or you're and then you kind of get out into

694
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: the big bad world.

695
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: And it's like cricket slag until you're rapped and all

696
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: that kind of thing like that until the business side

697
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: of it keeps him. What advice do you have for.

698
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: A young creative or And it doesn't need to be

699
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: young creator, but like anyone that's kind of like greener

700
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: in their journey that like, yeah, that disconnect between training

701
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: and working feels quite large, especially in Australia, I find definitely.

702
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty rare to be like, it's very

703
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: lucky to be a working actor in Australia. Like, and

704
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: I will say luck comes into it. And I want

705
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: to stress that to like young actors or anyone who

706
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: is honestly any actor who feels that they're not being

707
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: booked or in that kind of the stage that they

708
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: want at the moment. I would say, like, know yourself,

709
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: know your values, know your worth, regardless of being booked,

710
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: regardless of someone telling you that you're good, because trust me,

711
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: like that's not always talent really, it's like one of

712
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: the things that books you a job. There's so many

713
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: things that goes into it. There are so many fucking

714
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: amazing talented actors who are not working at all. And

715
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: I think having a really great team that you align with.

716
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: I don't think you should just go for you know,

717
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: big agents or people you see that they're repping these

718
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: actors clients who are working so much. I think it's

719
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: really important to have people on your side who genuinely

720
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: care about you. This industry is cold and people don't

721
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: really care, and it's very lucky. Like I feel really

722
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: lucky to have people behind me right now who like

723
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 4: genuinely care about me, like as a person and are

724
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: interested in what I want to do. And I think, like,

725
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: try not to lose that, like, try not to just

726
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: get caught up in you know, booking a role and

727
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: like feeling because like when you do it feels great,

728
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: but the minute you stop working, it's hard. Like so

729
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 4: like keeping that going and knowing like it's going to

730
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: come again. I can always make my own things. That's

731
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: like where like the kind of true love of it

732
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 4: all is make shit with your friends. Just have people

733
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 4: in your corner, I would say, and just know, like, yeah,

734
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 4: a lot of it's luck. Like I think some actors

735
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 4: want to be like, you know, on your craft, like,

736
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: which is fine, go and say that, but at the

737
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: same time, you need to keep your mental health good

738
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: in this industry.

739
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: Focus on that.

740
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: Focus on enjoying your life because also as an actor,

741
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 4: go have experiences. Don't stop traveling because you think you're

742
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: gonna book.

743
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: A job or something like.

744
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: Go live your life to the fullest and I feel

745
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 4: like then things will come, Like keep your options around

746
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: and like just be the creative that you are.

747
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 2: I also think, and you've touched on that with the traveling,

748
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: like not holding on too tight yep, Like I think

749
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: sometimes we can hold on so tight, whether it's like

750
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: to that audition or that thing, and it's just like

751
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: if you hold on too tight, you're not even letting

752
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: it breathe.

753
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: I think it's so important to have things outside of

754
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 4: just being an actor, Like I think if I didn't

755
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 4: social media honestly, and I'm lucky to have the platform

756
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 4: and be able to like have that as my income

757
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: when I'm not on set. But it's also I love

758
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: using my voice in that way I connect with people.

759
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: I feel like it's not just about me. I think

760
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: sometimes we get so caught up in this industry. We're

761
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: focused on ourselves and having something outside of yourself that

762
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: you can like breathe in and just like remember, oh,

763
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: like it puts it. It puts it into perspective a

764
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: little bit. So like whether that's a hobby, go ride

765
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 4: a horse, I don't know.

766
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people say, do something with animals,

767
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: Like that's because it's yeah, well like unconditional love, like

768
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: you're being of service to something else other than you,

769
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: like as awesome as acting as it's a very self

770
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: focused career and it just takes you like out of

771
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: yourself and focuses on something else. Question for you just

772
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: because as you've been talking, I'm like, oh, my goodness,

773
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: and we need to write a book.

774
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about writing a book?

775
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: I've no, Well, yeah I have, because I've you.

776
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: Have to write a book.

777
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: I I don't want to cry when you say that

778
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: I have.

779
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: I don't know like I write. I don't know what

780
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

781
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: I have to though I have started, like.

782
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, one day I had a therapy session and I

783
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 4: started to like write about that session, and then I

784
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: actually just turned it into the beginning of like a

785
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: book like me, like a memoir vibe. Yeah, well, I

786
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: don't want to know. I'm not going to I have

787
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: a thing that I'll know because one might still the title,

788
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: I'm not going.

789
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: To say it.

790
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 2: Keep that, keeping will say that, we'll say that off

791
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: off my fat. Yeah, do it like one hundred percent.

792
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: Like the more that you're like talking.

793
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: And the way that you share.

794
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Plus all your like social media content, it's definitely a book.

795
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: Definitely a book. That's definitely a book.

796
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you do it? Do it?

797
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: Thanks?

798
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

799
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: Now, the first time we met, which was a week ago, today,

800
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: I popped over to.

801
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: Your place for the best friends Like immediately.

802
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: Cup of tea, had a little cup of tea little

803
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: lemon ginger situation, and we pulled oracle cards. So I

804
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: was thinking today, on your way over here, I pulled

805
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: out my deck of the Mermaid, dolphin oracle.

806
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: Love that.

807
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: So I was thinking, why don't you pull a card

808
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 2: for yourself. You can, it's gonna be hard to shuffle

809
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: with your mic in the other hand.

810
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: No, I'll just shuffle, just chuck them around, chuck them around.

811
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, maybe pull a card for

812
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: the listener. Ooh, I would love to write these are

813
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: really nice card.

814
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 4: Now I have the listener in mind, should I go, Yeah,

815
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 4: to the listener first, the listener first, then yeah, yeah,

816
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: I think it's on top.

817
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: Oh, how good that was.

818
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: Synchronicity get you, guys, are meant.

819
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: To be lessen.

820
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: Your prayers and questions are being answered by synchronistic events.

821
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: Notice them in order to increase their flow. So whatever

822
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 4: you've learned in this episode, take it with you.

823
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: Baby. Oh I love that. Look at you. You're making

824
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: me feel emotional now, Oh my good.

825
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 4: Honestly, there's two dolphins and they're over crystals. If that's

826
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 4: not a sign, then I don't know.

827
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: What it is. And how cool is this deck? This

828
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: deck is amazing.

829
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: It's actually so beautiful. I'm really excited.

830
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Now.

831
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: I hope that resonates with you, guys. Synchronicity, that's a

832
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: big sign.

833
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, one hundred percent.

834
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: And I think just what you've been saying as well

835
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: about like where if you're a creative, like having stuff

836
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: outside of that creative passion and then kind of like

837
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: there's a bit like of letting it unfold as well.

838
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: That's really you know what.

839
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: A phrase just pop into my mind. Follow you not

840
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: the industry a hunt.

841
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

842
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: Matt and I were saying, we just we've been away

843
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: the last week and we both said we don't want

844
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 2: to chase anymore, not that chase energy. He's like, we

845
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: just do our thing and it comes to us. And

846
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: I think that that's important as a creative to because

847
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: if you're chasing, and you talked earlier about masking, I

848
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: think when we're chasing something, we kind of change who

849
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: we are to chase that.

850
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: Thing definitely, versus like this is who I am and

851
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: we're not present one hundred percent. No way.

852
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're focusing so much on what could be or

853
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 4: what's out there.

854
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 3: It's like, what about right now?

855
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: You got hit? Yeah, that's a lot. I love it

856
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: for everyone.

857
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: For me to put this card back in and leave

858
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: it out, I'm scared.

859
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: Put it back in and do a little shuff Yeah, God,

860
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: what effic doing a shuffle here?

861
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm shuffle shuffle shuffling. So good tip to the listener.

862
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: If you need to do a one handed shuff you

863
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: just put them in little piles. I always say left hand.

864
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know what the top card is?

865
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: I fucking do well. I saw it and I was like,

866
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: why am I scared?

867
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I know that you're going to die? Is it?

868
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: No? Guys, you got soul mates? Is that the soul

869
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 4: ma soulmate relationship? Get out new romance with the spiritual

870
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: basis is here for you?

871
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: Now?

872
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 3: Why is this like the day before you.

873
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: Leave Los Angeles? What? I don't want to leave it?

874
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

875
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: You can tell. I've done lots of spells.

876
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad. Elastic is peeling off?

877
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: What should be doing with this card? Interesting? Great? Also

878
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: what's the bottom card? Yeah?

879
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 3: Positive energy?

880
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: Great?

881
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 3: Surround yourself with positive energy in situations and avoiding activity. Well,

882
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: that's why I'm here.

883
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you're going to extend your trip?

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Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, I actually met this this barrista who's I

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Speaker 3: keep taking my podcast guests to the same place now,

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Speaker 3: And I met her the other day and I felt

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Speaker 3: like I kind of thought we had this vibe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I've been thinking about her.

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Speaker 4: But turns out she has a ring on her wedding finger,

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Speaker 4: just that ring, which feels like, come on, she's probably married,

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Speaker 4: but who knows.

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Speaker 1: It's la you don't know. It's lucky, it's true.

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Speaker 4: And people were like, well, people on TikTok are like, well,

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Speaker 4: what if that's the only ring they let her wear?

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Speaker 4: And it's just like a ring that she likes. It

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Speaker 4: looked like pretty antique ring.

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Speaker 1: Could be her grandma's. I swear my grandma's.

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Speaker 3: Ring the big time on your wedding finger.

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Speaker 1: I'd wear it on the other hand, but sometimes.

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Speaker 4: I put a ring on my wedding finger, like I

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Speaker 4: don't really care. But I don't know anyway. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if they're my soulmate. But it was nice to flirt. Oh,

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Speaker 4: this feels aligned, but I don't know why, and I'm scared.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind if my soulmate was here. That would

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Speaker 4: be fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see you spending way more time here.

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Speaker 1: Me too. I feel like this is a good omen. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I'm so invested now, just so you know.

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Speaker 3: Like, thanks, I need it.

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Speaker 2: I'll be watching along from from If you're on the

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Speaker 2: other side, I'll be watching a long I'll be cheering

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Speaker 2: you on, my friend. I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 2: is next for you. Thank you for sharing so honestly

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Speaker 2: and vulnerably, which I.

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Speaker 3: Knew you would.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, Lola Berry.

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Speaker 1: Let's hang again.

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Speaker 3: I loved coming on. I feel really I'm really happy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. He nailed it, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Woo woo.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 2: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This potty my word

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Speaker 2: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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