Speaker 1: When it comes to our kids' health, we're always looking
Speaker 1: for the best options that's not only healthy, but also
Speaker 1: cost effective and has to taste good so the kids
Speaker 1: will actually eat it. So today on the Nutrition Couch
Speaker 1: Product Review, we are taking a closer look to popular
Speaker 1: kids yogurt tubes and ones that you may have gotten
Speaker 1: a little bit sucked into from a health halo perspective. Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm Susie Burrow and Eileen Wood, and as two of
Speaker 1: Australia's leading dieticians who specialize in evidence based nutrition, we
Speaker 1: bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly chat
Speaker 1: on new products and old favorites that you can find
Speaker 1: in the supermarket. So leanne I have wanted to do
Speaker 1: yogurts for a little while. We know that our listeners
Speaker 1: are very very interested in yogat in general. Whenever we
Speaker 1: include any kind of content on yogurts and then there's
Speaker 1: a whole range of kids yogurts too, we get a
Speaker 1: really positive response, so we know it's neary people are
Speaker 1: interested in. And so I straight away was able to
Speaker 1: tell you the products I wanted to look at because
Speaker 1: my little boys do like yogurt. I've got one who
Speaker 1: prefers it more than the other one. But they've had
Speaker 1: yogurt from when they're quite small, and actually, this is
Speaker 1: a little tip for you with me, when my babies
Speaker 1: were really sort of little, so nine months twelve months,
Speaker 1: when you first start to introduce foods like yogurt, I
Speaker 1: used the Baramba Baby yogurt because it was quite low
Speaker 1: in protein and had literally nothing in it but milk.
Speaker 1: I really like that brand. Now it's tricky to find,
Speaker 1: and I think I ended up getting it from Harris
Speaker 1: Farm often at the time, but I would only use
Speaker 1: that or a very natural yogat. It's only been since
Speaker 1: they're a lot older, like I'm talking four and five,
Speaker 1: that I've even introduced flavored yogurt. I think it's really
Speaker 1: important that we say that the less sweet food that
Speaker 1: you introduce into the diets of small children, the better.
Speaker 1: I would say that pouch yogurt, I wouldn't be giving
Speaker 1: it to kids younger than I reckon at least two,
Speaker 1: maybe a bit older. And you certainly, as we'll discuss
Speaker 1: in a second, of looking for brands that don't contain
Speaker 1: any added sugar whatsoever. But absolutely i'd be seeking out
Speaker 1: just plain natural yogurts and mixing them with a little
Speaker 1: bit of fruit, so the kids get used to that
Speaker 1: more tart flavor and are not constantly looking for sweet food.
Speaker 1: So that's a little trick. I think that when we
Speaker 1: say kids, we're really talking more about primary school age kids.
Speaker 1: You know, products that you might add into the lunch
Speaker 1: box at school, and specifically in terms of the one
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about first, which is the Valleier
Speaker 1: Kids probiotic yogurt pouch, a very popular one, but it's
Speaker 1: also leanne, a really big one, so it's one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty grams, which is massive, you know, for particularly
Speaker 1: for a small child. So if you were giving this
Speaker 1: to your two year old, this is way too many
Speaker 1: calories and specifically sugar we're going to talk about in
Speaker 1: a second. So as I said, my recommendation is stick
Speaker 1: to the very small portions and if you do use
Speaker 1: pouch yogurt and no added sugar, pouch yogurt for little kids,
Speaker 1: you absolutely want the smallest one's possible. But this is
Speaker 1: marketed for kids. You can see a massive kids right
Speaker 1: across the front at retails for about a dollar twenty
Speaker 1: per pouch at Woollies and coal's it's fairly available. We
Speaker 1: check it the ingredient list. Whole milks give milk, orter sugar,
Speaker 1: milk solid, strawberry pulp. So straight away, leanne, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at that. I see sugar on the list, and I
Speaker 1: don't like it because we shouldn't have added sugar in yogurt,
Speaker 1: I think in general lit alone kids yogurt, So straight
Speaker 1: away I'm put off strawberry and at three point five percent.
Speaker 1: There's also rice starch, which, let's be honest, is another
Speaker 1: form of sugar gelatin natural flavors. Regulators live yogurt cultures,
Speaker 1: so there is some good bugs in there that they're
Speaker 1: adding in. But it comes in at five hundred kilogel,
Speaker 1: so just over one hundred and thirty calories per serve,
Speaker 1: six grams of protein, three grams of fat, and total
Speaker 1: two point four saturated, So low and saturated fat, but massive.
Speaker 1: You know, sixteen point five grams of carb, twelve point
Speaker 1: five grams of which are sugars. Now, admittedly you will
Speaker 1: get some naturally occurring sugar in any dairy food, milk, yogurt,
Speaker 1: but in this case it's added sugar, some of it.
Speaker 1: At least it's not differentiated added from naturally occurring and
Speaker 1: I just can't justify that, particularly if a small child
Speaker 1: was having this. This is more than half their daily
Speaker 1: sugar intake in a single pouch. Now I am aware
Speaker 1: it is some of it natural, but it just is
Speaker 1: an added sugar food that shouldn't be in kids' diets
Speaker 1: and for me, the portion is just way, way too large.
Speaker 1: The good news is, thoughlyand that there are a growing
Speaker 1: range of smaller portions and in particular ones that clearly
Speaker 1: say no added sugar. And this is a perfect example
Speaker 1: why we need that labeling in Australia that differentiates added
Speaker 1: to naturally occurring sugars in foods like fruit and dairy,
Speaker 1: so we can make that informed decision. But as a mum,
Speaker 1: if you're going along and looking at any of these
Speaker 1: pouches and see sugar written, it's a sign it's not
Speaker 1: the best product for your child, and there are a
Speaker 1: better nutritional options out there in the case of.
Speaker 2: Yogurt, absolutely, And if you're busy in your time poor
Speaker 2: just even look at the front of package marketing and
Speaker 2: look for the ones that say no added sugar. Because
Speaker 2: this brand the Valley, it says proba to yogurt, it
Speaker 2: says kids, it says boost immunity. So it looks like
Speaker 2: it's got all of the right things on the front
Speaker 2: of packet. But the big thing it doesn't have, SUSI,
Speaker 2: is a no added sugar label. And we know that
Speaker 2: no added sugar doesn't mean no sugar. We know it
Speaker 2: silk and tastes naturally occurring sugar. But as you said,
Speaker 2: we don't want like twelve and a half grams of
Speaker 2: sugar is huge for a small child. And as you said,
Speaker 2: the more sugar they have, the more sugar they want.
Speaker 2: So it is definitely not something that we want add
Speaker 2: kids eating. So I think this one is a big
Speaker 2: health halo. I think you look at the front of
Speaker 2: that package marketing and go, you know what that's actually like.
Speaker 2: It looks like a really good product, and it retails
Speaker 2: for a dollar twenty at Woolworth Susie, and as she said,
Speaker 2: it's a big pouch. It's one hundred and forty gram
Speaker 2: so a lot of people might think this is actually
Speaker 2: really good value for money, but you're getting more because
Speaker 2: they have, you know, bogged out that yogurt with the
Speaker 2: added sugars and that sort of thing. So I don't
Speaker 2: think that this is necessarily something that we would We're
Speaker 2: not gonna recommend it at all, LAWI SUSI. There are
Speaker 2: definitely better options on the market, But I really do
Speaker 2: think the kids yogurt's overall are a bit of a
Speaker 2: marketing thing anyway, Like why can't kids just eat, as
Speaker 2: you said, adult yogat, Like why does it even have
Speaker 2: to be a kid range of yogurts.
Speaker 1: I haven't bought pouches until my kids went to school
Speaker 1: for that reason. You know, if they wanted yoga at home,
Speaker 1: I would give them a bowl with cut out fruit
Speaker 1: in it and use just a natural. But also from
Speaker 1: a cost perspective, you know, you can get a big
Speaker 1: container of yogat, so a natural yogurt for I think
Speaker 1: about four dollars, and that's probably got at least ten
Speaker 1: serves for a small child versus this that's retailing at
Speaker 1: one twenty per serve, Like, you can waste a lot
Speaker 1: of money as well, if budget, if you're trying to
Speaker 1: focus on your budget, And for me, the portions are
Speaker 1: way way too large for I wouldn't give that size
Speaker 1: until a child was probably eight, probably even closer to
Speaker 1: ten years old. So the fact that that size and
Speaker 1: portions being marketed directly to kids, I think is an
Speaker 1: issue in itself, and we'd like to definitely see people
Speaker 1: do better with that kind of product than where it's
Speaker 1: sitting in the market at the moment. So we'll move
Speaker 1: on to one that i think is one of the
Speaker 1: better ones. So I've chosen the Tama Valley Dairy Kids
Speaker 1: Greek Yogurt pouch. I've got a strawberry one one hundred
Speaker 1: and ten grams, so much more reasonable portion, and I
Speaker 1: think Leanne for the babies, you get them at about
Speaker 1: seventy grams, so this would be something that's more reasonable
Speaker 1: for a primary school aged child. The seventy ones would
Speaker 1: be I think the rapid Iss Guarden one is about
Speaker 1: seventy grams, which is much more appropriate for smaller kids
Speaker 1: or kids too are yet at school, but not inexpensively.
Speaker 1: And one dollar fifty per pouch, you know, like that
Speaker 1: adds up if you're buying just joke it for the
Speaker 1: course of the week, so certainly not you know, from
Speaker 1: a budget perspective, it's not necessarily cost effective for families.
Speaker 1: We look at the labels, it's a whole milk brand
Speaker 1: actually it's not low fat. It's whole milk, creamy milk solids, water,
Speaker 1: strawberry pulp, four point two percent rice starch. Now I
Speaker 1: will disclose that does also contain some sweetened aspect to it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have the added sugar itself, but it is
Speaker 1: getting sweetness through the rice starch, natural flavors, lemon pulps,
Speaker 1: and life culture in there. They're not marketing aggressively on
Speaker 1: the probiotics, but it does contain culture. So that comes
Speaker 1: in at just about one hundred calories per serve, four
Speaker 1: grams of protein, seven point six grams of fat five
Speaker 1: foot one saturated. So this is not a low fat
Speaker 1: product either. So you would argue for kids under the
Speaker 1: age of five, certainly wouldn't be recommending reduced or low
Speaker 1: fat dairy, so that certainly is much better for a
Speaker 1: younger child, even though the portion is sort of for
Speaker 1: me aimed at by a primary school age. But getting
Speaker 1: some fat from dairies wouldn't be a cause for concern
Speaker 1: for me in this context of a whole food. But
Speaker 1: you can see the difference in sugar straight away land.
Speaker 1: So if we go back to their large valia one
Speaker 1: per serve, this was offering sixteen point five grams of carbohydrate,
Speaker 1: so just roughly a slice of bread worth of fuel
Speaker 1: twelve point five grams of which so more than two
Speaker 1: and a half teaspoons of sugars per cer in that
Speaker 1: compared to this tama Vali one, which is offering only
Speaker 1: four grams of carbohydrate and three point five grams of sugars,
Speaker 1: so you can see the distinct difference.
Speaker 2: This has got a.
Speaker 1: Quarter of the sugars and a quarter of the fuel
Speaker 1: load from that food, which is much more appropriate for
Speaker 1: a child. Now, neither of them leanna listing calcium, which
Speaker 1: I think is really interesting, like you would assume they'd
Speaker 1: be getting at least what seventy one hundred milligrams of
Speaker 1: calcium per serve of yogurt like this, and neither of
Speaker 1: them are listing out. So that's disappointing too, because we
Speaker 1: would really love to be using a yogurt as an
Speaker 1: added calcium serve and we're not labeling for it. So
Speaker 1: a shout out to both of those companies to label
Speaker 1: for calcium to help us with that, because indeed, our
Speaker 1: kids need three serves of dairy minimum to get their
Speaker 1: calcium requirement, and I would say, both are offering a serve,
Speaker 1: but we are guessing it'd be really nice to see
Speaker 1: that too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they definitely have calcium added, but as you said,
Speaker 2: it's a bit hard when you don't sort of know
Speaker 2: how much is in there. Obviously, this one would be
Speaker 2: probably a lower amount of calcium than the other one
Speaker 2: because it's a smaller portion. But I do like the
Speaker 2: whole food ingredients here. But I must admit, Suzia, I
Speaker 2: don't love the fact that it's got cream in it.
Speaker 2: I'm all for, you know, full fat dairy for small kids.
Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely okay, but I just don't really
Speaker 2: see the addition all the need for cream added into
Speaker 2: that yoga. How do you feel about the cream in there? Well,
Speaker 2: it's not ideal, is it must make it taste good.
Speaker 1: I think that's why it tastes good, and I think
Speaker 1: that's why the kids like it. To be honest, I
Speaker 1: hadn't looked that closely at it when i'd been getting
Speaker 1: it for my own kids. You know, I sort of
Speaker 1: look at the sugars and the label's got no sugar added,
Speaker 1: So that's sort of where I go. My kids do
Speaker 1: like this yogurt, But yeah, it's not ideal, but time
Speaker 1: of our have often, i think added cream in their
Speaker 1: mix to give it that rich flavor through the mouth,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's You're right, it's not ideal, and
Speaker 1: that's why we're getting a fairly hefty dose of saturated
Speaker 1: fat as well. So they could certainly improve this formulation
Speaker 1: a bit. I also wonder if it's to give the
Speaker 1: thickness that works well in these tubes, because if you
Speaker 1: were dealing with a yogurt which was low fat, it's watery, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that one of the reasons they may
Speaker 1: do it in this formulation is to give the thickness
Speaker 1: that's required to make a tube type yogurt work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, because we like the nice
Speaker 2: thick yogurts because there high in protein, and they're high
Speaker 2: in protein because they're like double triple quadruple strained. But
Speaker 2: we don't want high protein for children, so they can't
Speaker 2: actually be quite dangerous because their kidneys can't process that
Speaker 2: load of protein. So we don't want to high protein yogurts,
Speaker 2: so we can't do that double sort of triple straining
Speaker 2: for kids. So you're right, maybe it is a form
Speaker 2: of just bulging it up a little bit, although I
Speaker 2: imagine the rice starch adds a little bit of bulkness
Speaker 2: to that as well thickness to it. Yeah, yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: go to get back to our food science days.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting observation and it's a good thing to
Speaker 1: chat about. Certainly, an adult yogurt I would be not
Speaker 1: steering well away from cream on a label. But the
Speaker 1: other thing you've actually mentioned what I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about as part of this segment, because I have a
Speaker 1: really big issue with the number of children I'm seeing
Speaker 1: using high protein yogurts, because there's such a growth area
Speaker 1: of protein based yogurt for adults and it's so popular.
Speaker 1: I've seen multiple times kids using high protein yogat tubes
Speaker 1: like the Yopros, the Shabani, which can have ten, fifteen,
Speaker 1: twenty grams of protein per serve, and I want to
Speaker 1: really stress that they are not appropriate for children. So
Speaker 1: the recommendation for protein intake for kids is actually really
Speaker 1: really low. It's less than a gram peculo, and so
Speaker 1: if your child is having twenty grams of protein in
Speaker 1: a yogurt, in some cases, they'll be getting more than
Speaker 1: their entire daily intake recommended of protein. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to really talk about that and to say high protein
Speaker 1: for kids are not appropriate, and I wouldn't be giving
Speaker 1: a high protein yogurt until someone was in adolescents and
Speaker 1: gone through their major growth spurts, so someone in high school.
Speaker 1: They are inappropriate for primary school age children. So be
Speaker 1: very careful of that, because if you're buying one type
Speaker 1: of yogurt for the family or just a few tubes,
Speaker 1: and you're used to giving one to the kids, they're
Speaker 1: way way too high in terms of calorie intake and
Speaker 1: protein intake. So just be really mindful of that, because
Speaker 1: I don't think they're differentiated for adults and children well
Speaker 1: enough in the market, and I think you could easily
Speaker 1: be buying the protein based yogas for the family without thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: hang on a second, my child's only eight and it's
Speaker 1: way too much protein perserve.
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good point.
Speaker 1: We don't hear it talked about very often, and that's
Speaker 1: why if we look at the protein of these four
Speaker 1: grams for this little Tama valley, one six grams, because
Speaker 1: this is such a large server, this falire. But as
Speaker 1: I said, as soon as you're getting ten plus grams,
Speaker 1: and if, as I said, as a child, their intakes
Speaker 1: sort of I haven't got the numbers off the top
Speaker 1: of my head to tell you, but they're really quite low.
Speaker 1: Let me actually just do a quick Google just to
Speaker 1: give you a reference point, because, yeah, I think in
Speaker 1: this age of high protein products, it can be easy
Speaker 1: to think that more is better, and it's really important
Speaker 1: to know that small children do not need a lot
Speaker 1: of protein in their diet. You know, for example, breast
Speaker 1: milk is really low in protein, and that's why we've
Speaker 1: got to be really careful. So I'm having a very
Speaker 1: quick look. Children age four to nine nineteen grams of
Speaker 1: protein and daily in yeah, wow, it's not a lot
Speaker 1: those between nine and thirteen and thirty four. So if
Speaker 1: you've got a nine year old and you're giving them
Speaker 1: a high protein they're having more than half their daily
Speaker 1: intake of protein in a single snack. So we'll say
Speaker 1: it very clearly. Protein yogurts are not appropriate for children,
Speaker 1: not until you're a teenager, and an ideally a teenager
Speaker 1: who's gone through a major gross But it would I
Speaker 1: ever be recommending a protein based yogurt, So make sure
Speaker 1: that you are choosing natural, plain fruit yogurts with no
Speaker 1: added sugar, and if you are opting for these pouches,
Speaker 1: you certainly do want to look for ones that contain
Speaker 1: no added sugars and ideally have a kid's formulation that
Speaker 1: doesn't that keeps those nutritionals as they should, which is
Speaker 1: relatively low, or as I do it my own homely
Speaker 1: and just use the natural yogurt and add some fruit
Speaker 1: and things to it. If I'm doing it as a
Speaker 1: dessert or making of course frozen yogurt ice blocks, I
Speaker 1: just get the natural. I think activ has got a natural.
Speaker 1: They're harder to find, but you can get them. ACTV
Speaker 1: has got a natural. I think Valley has got just
Speaker 1: a natural. If you look that's not flavored. One was
Speaker 1: a good one as well, yep. And then you can
Speaker 1: just put them into the ice cream pops with some fruit,
Speaker 1: mix it around and the kids love that, and it's
Speaker 1: ticking the box on key nutrients like calcium without too
Speaker 1: much of any of those things like the added sugars,
Speaker 1: and certainly the protein in the case of higher protein yogurts.
Speaker 2: I really do think we should be using these pouches
Speaker 2: for our kids as a convenience or a travel option,
Speaker 2: not something that's an everyday option of the kids, you're
Speaker 2: at home, they're having it on the weekend. Really do,
Speaker 2: I mean you're reducing a lot of plastic as well,
Speaker 2: like I think, you know, caring for the environment, something
Speaker 2: that Zusie and I are both passionate about, so that
Speaker 2: less plastic we can buy the better. So if you
Speaker 2: can buy the big tubs of a family on the
Speaker 2: weekends or at night time after dinner and not use
Speaker 2: these small pouches, you're going to save yourself a heck
Speaker 2: a lot of money, You're going to help the environment,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna need a lot less sugar. In buying
Speaker 2: something like a standard you know, just a plain yogurt
Speaker 2: where you can then add natural based fruit to sweeten
Speaker 2: that as well, I think is a lot healthy eruption,
Speaker 2: a lot more affordable, and but of the environment overall,
Speaker 2: very true, very true.
Speaker 1: And I also actually just to wrap up, say we've
Speaker 1: spoken about two yogats today that are in the mainstream supermarkets.
Speaker 1: I am not aware of any great kids yogurts at Audi.
Speaker 1: The ones that I'm aware of have quite a lot
Speaker 1: of added sugar. The only one that I don't mind.
Speaker 1: In Audi is the lactose free fruit actually that you
Speaker 1: can't find in mainstream supermarket. But if you're an Audi shopper,
Speaker 1: you do need to be careful. They're tubes, unfortunately at
Speaker 1: this stage are not great when it comes to added sugars,
Speaker 1: so just be careful with that, all right. That brings
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