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Speaker 1: I'm Susie Burrow and Eileen Wood, and as two of

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Speaker 1: Australia's leading dieticians who specialize in evidence based nutrition, we

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Speaker 1: bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly chat

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Speaker 1: in the supermarket. So leanne I have wanted to do

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Speaker 1: I would say that pouch yogurt, I wouldn't be giving

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Speaker 1: You know, products that you might add into the lunch

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Speaker 1: Kids probiotic yogurt pouch, a very popular one, but it's

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Speaker 1: also leanne, a really big one, so it's one hundred

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Speaker 1: I think in general lit alone kids yogurt, So straight

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Speaker 2: Yogurt, absolutely, And if you're busy in your time poor

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Speaker 2: no added sugar doesn't mean no sugar. We know it

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting observation and it's a good thing to

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Speaker 2: I really do think we should be using these pouches

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Speaker 2: not something that's an everyday option of the kids, you're

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Speaker 1: And I also actually just to wrap up, say we've

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Speaker 1: I am not aware of any great kids yogurts at Audi.

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Speaker 1: The ones that I'm aware of have quite a lot

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