1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: When it comes to our kids' health, we're always looking 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: for the best options that's not only healthy, but also 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: cost effective and has to taste good so the kids 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: will actually eat it. So today on the Nutrition Couch 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Product Review, we are taking a closer look to popular 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: kids yogat tubes and ones that you may have gotten 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: a little bit sucked into from a health halo perspective. Hi, 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm Susie Burrell and Emilyann Wood, and as two of 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Australia's leading dieticians who specialize in evidence based nutrition, we 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly chat 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: on new products and old favorites that you can find 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: in the supermarket. So leanne I have wanted to do 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: yogurts for a little while. We know that our listeners 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: are very very interested in yogat in general. Whenever we 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: include any kind of content on yogurts and then there's 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: a whole range of kids yogurts too, we get a 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: really positive response, so we know it's neary people are 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: interested in. And so I straightway was able to tell 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: you the products I wanted to look at because my 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: little boys do like yogurt. I've got one who prefers 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: it more than the other one. But they've had yoga 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: from when they're quite small. And actually, this is a 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: little tip for you with me. When my babies were 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: really of little, so nine months twelve months, when you 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: first start to introduce foods like yogurt, I used the 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Baramba baby yogurt because it was quite low in protein 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: and had literally nothing in it but milk. I really 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: like that brand. Now it's tricky to find, and I 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: think I ended up getting it from Harris Farm often 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: at the time, but I would only use that or 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: a very natural yogat. It's only been since they're a 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: lot older, like I'm talking four and five, that I've 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: even introduced flavored yogurt. I think it's really important that 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: we say that the less sweet food that you introduce 35 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: into the diets of small children, the better. I would 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: say that pouch yogurt. I wouldn't be giving it to 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: kids younger than I reckon at least two, maybe a 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: bit older, and you certainly, as we'll discuss in a second, 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: of looking for brands that don't contain any added sugar whatsoever. 40 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: But absolutely i'd be seeking out just plain natural yogurts 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: and mixing them with a little bit of fruit, so 42 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: the kids get used to that more tart flavor and 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: are not constantly looking for sweet food. So that's a 44 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: little trick. I think that when we say kids, we're 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: really talking more about primary school age kids. You know, 46 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: products that you might add into the lunch box at school, 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: and specifically in terms of the one we're going to 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: talk about first, which is the Valleier Kids probiotic yogurt pouch, 49 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: a very popular one, but it's also leanne, a really 50 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: big one. So it's one hundred and forty grams, which 51 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: is massive, you know, for particularly for a small child. 52 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: So if you were giving this to your two year old, 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: this is way too many calories and specifically sugars we're 54 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about in a second. So as I said, 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: my recommendation is stick to this very small portions and 56 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: if you do use pouch yogurt and no added sugar, 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: pouch yogurt for little kids, you absolutely want the smallest 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: one's possible. But this is marketed for kids. You can 59 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: see a massive kids right across the front at retails 60 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: for about a dollar twenty per pouch at Woolies and 61 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: Coal's it's fairly available. We check it the ingredient list. 62 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: Whole milks give milk, order sugar, milk solid, strawberry pulp, 63 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: So straight away leanne I'm looking at that. I see 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: sugar on the list, and I don't like it because 65 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: we shouldn't have added sugar in yogurt, I think in general, 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: at alone kids yogurt, So straight away I'm put off 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: strawberry and at three point five percent. There's also rice starch, which, 68 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: let's be honest, is another form of sugar. Gelatin natural flavors. 69 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Regulators live yogurt cultures, so there is some good bugs 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: in there that they're adding in. But it comes in 71 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: at five hundred kilogel, so just over one hundred and 72 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: thirty calories per serve, six grams of protein, three grams 73 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: of fat and total two point four saturated, So low 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: and saturated fat, but massive. You know, sixteen point five 75 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: grams of carb, twelve point five grams of which are sugars. Now, 76 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: admittedly you will get some naturally occurring sugar in any 77 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: dairy food, milk, yogurt, but in this case it's added sugar, 78 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: some of it. At least it's not differentiated added from 79 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: naturally occurring and I just can't justify that, particularly if 80 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: a small child was having this. This is more than 81 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: half their daily sugar intake in a single pouch. Now 82 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: I am aware it is some of it natural, but 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: it just is ant added sugar food that shouldn't be 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: in kids' diets, and for me, the portion is just way, 85 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: way too large. The good news is, thoughlyand that there 86 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: are a growing range of smaller portions and in particular 87 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: ones that clearly say no added sugar. And this is 88 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: a perfect example why we need that labeling in Australia 89 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: that differentiates added to naturally occurring sugars in foods like 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: fruit and dairy, so we can make that informed decision. 91 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: But as a mum, if you're going along and looking 92 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: at any of these pouches and see sugar written, it's 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: a sign it's not the best product for your child, 94 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: and there are a better nutritional options out there. In 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: the case of yogurt, absolutely, And if you're busy in 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: your time poor just even look at the front of 97 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: package marketing and look for the ones that say no 98 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: added sugar. Because this brand the Valley, it says proba 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: to yogurt it says kids, it says boost immunity. So 100 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: it looks like it's got all of the right things 101 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: on the front of packet. But the big thing it 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: doesn't have, SUSI, is a no added sugar label. And 103 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: we know that no added sugar doesn't mean no sugar. 104 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: We know it silk and tastes naturally occurring sugar. But 105 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: as you said, we don't want like twelve and a 106 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: half grams of sugar is huge for a small child. 107 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: And as you said, the more sugar they have, the 108 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: more sugar they want, so it is definitely not something 109 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: that we want add kids eating. So I think this 110 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: one is a big health halo. I think you look 111 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: at the front of that package marketing and go, you 112 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: know what that's actually like. It looks like a really 113 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: good product, and it retails for a dollar twenty at 114 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Woolworth Susie, and as she said, it's a big pouch. 115 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: It's one hundred and forty gram so a lot of 116 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: people might think this is actually really good value for money, 117 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: but you're getting more because they have, you know, bogged 118 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: out that yogurt with the added sugars and that sort 119 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: of thing. So I don't think that this is necessarily 120 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: something that we would we're not going to recommend it 121 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: at all, LAWI SUSI. There are definitely better options on 122 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: the market, But I really do think the kids yogat's 123 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: overall are a bit of a marketing thing anyway, Like 124 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: why can't kids just eat, as you said, adult yogat, 125 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Like why does it even have to be a kid 126 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: range of yogurts. I haven't bought pouches until my kids 127 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: went to school for that reason. You know, if they 128 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: wanted yoga at home, I would give them a bowl 129 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: with cut out fruit in it and use just a natural. 130 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: But also from a cost perspective, you know, you can 131 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: get a big container of yogat, so a natural yogurt 132 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: for I think about four dollars, and that's probably got 133 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: at least ten serves for a small child versus this 134 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: that's retailing at one twenty per serve, Like, you can 135 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: waste a lot of money as well, if budget, if 136 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: you're trying to focus on your budget, And for me, 137 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: the portions are way way too large for I wouldn't 138 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: give that size until a child was probably a probably 139 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: even closer to ten years old. So the fact that 140 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: that size and portions being marketed directly to kids, I 141 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: think is an issue in itself, and we'd like to 142 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: definitely see people do better with that kind of product 143 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: than where it's sitting in the market at the moment. 144 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: So we'll move on to one that I think is 145 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: one of the better ones. So I've chosen the Tama 146 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: Valley Dairy Kids Greek yogurt pouch. I've got a strawberry 147 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: one one hundred and ten grams, so much more reasonable portion, 148 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: and I think Leanne for the babies, you get them 149 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: at about seventy grams, so this would be something that's 150 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: more reasonable for a primary school aged child. The seventy 151 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: ones would be I think the Raffide's Guarden one is 152 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: about seventy grams, which is much more appropriate for smaller 153 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: kids or kids who are yet at school, but not inexpensively. 154 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: And one dollar fifty per pouch, you know, like that 155 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: adds up if you're buying just joke it for the 156 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: course of the week, So certainly not you know, from 157 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: a budget perspective, it's not necessarily cost effective for families. 158 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: We look at the labels, it's a whole milk brand. 159 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: Actually it's not low fat. It's whole milk, creamy milk solids, water, 160 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: strawberry pulp, four point two percent rice starch. Now I 161 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: will disclose that does also contain some sweetened aspect to it. 162 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't have the added sugar itself, but it is 163 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: getting sweetness through the rice starch, natural flavors, lemon pulps, 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: and life culture in there. They're not marketing aggressively on 165 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: the probiotics, but it does contain culture. So that comes 166 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: in at just about one hundred calories per serve, four 167 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: grams of protein, seven point six grams of fat five 168 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: foot one saturated. So this is not a low fat 169 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: product either. So you would argue for kids under the 170 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: age of five, certainly wouldn't be recommending reduced or low 171 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: fat dairy. So that certainly is much better for a 172 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: younger child, even though the portion is sort of for 173 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: me aimed at for a primary school age child. But 174 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: getting some fat from dairies wouldn't be a cause for 175 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: concern for me in this context of a whole food. 176 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: But you can see the difference in sugar straight away. Land. 177 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: So if we go back to the large valia one 178 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: per serve, this was offering sixteen point five grams of carbohydrate, 179 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: so just roughly a slice of bread worth of fuel 180 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: twelve point five grams of which so more than two 181 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: and a half teaspoons of sugars per cer in that 182 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: compared to this Tama Valley one, which is offering only 183 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: four grams of carbohydrate and three point five grams of sugars, 184 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: so you can see the distinct difference. 185 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: This has got a. 186 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Quarter of the sugars and a quarter of the fuel 187 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: load from that food, which is much more appropriate for 188 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: a child. Now, neither of them leanna listing calcium, which 189 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: I think is really interesting, like you would assume they'd 190 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: be getting at least what seventy one hundred milligrams of 191 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: calcium per serve of yogurt like this, and neither of 192 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: them are listing out. So that's disappointing too, because we 193 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: would really love to be using a yogurt as an 194 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: added calcium serve and we're not labeling for it. So 195 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I shout out to both of those companies to label 196 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: for calcium to help us with that, because indeed, our 197 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: kids need three serves of dairy minimum to get their 198 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: calcium requirement. And I would say both are offering a serve, 199 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: but we are guessing it'd be really nice to see 200 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: that too. 201 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they definitely have calcium added, but as you said, 202 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: it's a bit hard when you don't sort of know 203 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: how much is in there. Obviously, this one would be 204 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: probably a lower amount of calcium than the other one 205 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: because it's a smaller portion. But I do like the 206 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: whole food ingredients here. But I must admit, Zuzia, I 207 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: don't love the fact that it's got cream in it. 208 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm all for, you know, full fat dairy for small kids. 209 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely okay, but I just don't really 210 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: see the addition all the need for cream added into 211 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: that yoga. How do you feel about the cream in there? Well, 212 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: it's not ideal. Is it must make it taste good. 213 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: I think that's why it tastes good, and I think 214 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: that's why the kids like it. To be honest, I 215 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: hadn't looked that closely at it when i'd been getting 216 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: it for my own kids. You know, I sort of 217 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: look at the sugars and the label's got no sugar added, 218 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: so that's sort of where I go. My kids do 219 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: like this yogurt, but yeah, it's not ideal, but time 220 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: of our have often I think added cream in their 221 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: mix to give it that rich flavor through the mouth, 222 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: so you know, it's you're right, it's not ideal, and 223 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: that's why we're getting a fairly hefty dose of saturated 224 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: fat as well. So they could certainly improve this formulation 225 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: a bit. I also wonder if it's to give the 226 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: thickness that works well in these tubes, because if you 227 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: were dealing with a yogurt which was low fat, it's watery, right, 228 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that one of the reasons they may 229 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: do it in this formulation is to give the thickness 230 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: that's required to make a tube type yogurt work. 231 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, because we not like the 232 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: nice thick yogurt because are high in protein, and they're 233 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 2: high in protein because they're like double triple or druple strained. 234 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: But we don't want high protein for children, so they 235 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: can actually be quite dangerous because their kidneys can't process 236 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: that load of protein. So we don't want to high 237 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: protein yogurt, so we can't do that double sort of 238 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: triple straining for kids. So you're right, maybe it is 239 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: a form of just bulging it up a little bit, 240 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: although I imagine the rice starch adds a little bit 241 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: of bulkness to that as. 242 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: Well thickness to it. 243 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll go to get back to our food 244 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: science days. 245 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: It's an interesting observation and it's a good thing to 246 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: chat about. Certainly, an adult yogurt I would be not 247 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: steering well away from cream on a label. But the 248 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: other thing you've actually mentioned what I wanted to talk 249 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: about as part of this segment, because I have a 250 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: really big issue with the number of children I'm seeing 251 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: using high protein yogurts, because there's such a growth area 252 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: of protein based yogurt for adults and it's so popular. 253 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: I've seen multiple times kids using high protein yogat tubes 254 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: like the Yopros, the Shabani, which can have ten, fifteen, 255 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: twenty grams of protein per serve, and I want to 256 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: really stress that they are not appropriate for children. So 257 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: the recommendation for protein intake for kids is actually really 258 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: really low. It's less than a gram pe kilo, and 259 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: so if your child is having twenty grams of protein 260 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: in a yogurt, in some cases, they'll be getting more 261 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: than their entire daily intake recommended of protein. So I 262 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: wanted to really talk about that and to say high 263 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: protein yo for kids are not appropriate, and I wouldn't 264 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: be giving a high protein yogurt until someone was in 265 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: adolescents and gone through their major growth spurts, so someone 266 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: in high school. They are inappropriate for primary school age children. 267 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: So be very careful of that, because if you're buying 268 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: one type of yogurt for the family or just a 269 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: few tubes and you used to giving one to the kids, 270 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: they're way way too high in terms of calorie intake 271 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: and protein intake. So just be really mindful of that, 272 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: because I don't think they're differentiated for adults and children 273 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: well enough in the market, and I think you could 274 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: easily be buying the protein based yogas for the family 275 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: without thinking, oh, hang on a second, my child's only 276 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: eight and it's way too much protein perserve. 277 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a really good point. 278 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: We don't hear it talked about very often, and that's 279 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: why if we look at the protein of these four 280 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: grams for this little Tama valley, one six grams, because 281 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: this is such a large server, this falire. But as 282 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: I said, as soon as you're getting ten plus grams 283 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: and if, as I said, as a child, their intakes 284 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: sort of I haven't got the numbers on off the 285 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: top of my head to tell you, but they're really 286 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: quite low. Let me actually just do a quick Google 287 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: just to give you a reference point, because, yeah, I 288 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: think in this age of high protein products, it can 289 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: be easy to think that more is better, and it's 290 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: really important to know that small children do not need 291 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: a lot of protein in their diet. You know, for example, 292 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: breast milk is really low in protein, and that's why 293 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: we've got to be really careful. So I'm just having 294 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: a very quick look. Children age four to nine nineteen 295 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: grams of protein a daily in yeah, well it's not 296 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot those between nine and thirteen and you're thirty four. 297 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: So if you've got a nine year old and you're 298 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: giving them a high protein yoga, they're having more than 299 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: half their daily intake of protein in a single snack. 300 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: So we'll say it very clearly. Protein yogurts are not 301 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: appropriate for children, not until you're a teenager, and an 302 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: ideally a teenager who's gone through a major gross But 303 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: it would I ever be recommending a protein based yogurt, 304 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: So make sure that you are choosing natural, plain fruit 305 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: yogurts with no added sugar, and if you are opting 306 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: for these pouches, you certainly do want to look for 307 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: ones that contain no added sugars and ideally have a 308 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: kid's formulation that doesn't that keeps those nutritionals as they should, 309 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: which is relatively low, or as I do it my 310 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: own homely and just use the natural yogurt and add 311 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: some fruit and things to it. If I'm doing it 312 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: as a dessert or making of course frozen yogurt ice blocks, 313 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: I just get the natural. I think activ has got 314 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: a natural. They're harder to find, but you can get them. 315 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: ACTV has got a natural. I think Valley has got 316 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: just a natural. If you look that's not flavored. 317 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: JELM was a good one as well. 318 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you can just put them into the 319 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: ice cream pops with some fruit, mix it around and 320 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: the kids love that. And it's ticking the box on 321 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: key nutrients like calcium without too much of any of 322 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: those things like the added sugars, and certainly the protein 323 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: in the case of higher protein yogurts. 324 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: I really do think we should be using these pouches 325 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: for our kids as a convenience or a travel option, 326 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: not something that's an everyday option of the kids. You're 327 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: at home, they're having it on the weekend. Really do 328 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: I mean you're reducing a lot of plastic as well, 329 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: Like I think, you know, caring for the environment is 330 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: something that Zusi and I are both passionate about. So 331 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: that less plastic, we can buy the bettes. So if 332 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: you can buy the big tubs as a family on 333 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: the weekends or at night time after dinner and not 334 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: use these small pouches, you're going to save yourself, pack 335 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: a lot of money, You're going to help the environment, 336 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: and you're gonna beat a lot less sugar. Buying something 337 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: like a standard you know, just a plain yogurt where 338 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: you can then add natural based fruit to sweeten that 339 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: as well. I think is a lot healthy eruption, a 340 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: lot more affordable, and but of the environment overall, very true, 341 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: very true. 342 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: And I also actually just to wrap up, say we've 343 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: spoken about two yogats today that are in the mainstream supermarkets. 344 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I am not aware of any great kids yogurts at Aldi. 345 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: The ones that I'm aware of have quite a lot 346 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: of added sugar. The only one that I don't mind 347 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: in Audi is the lactose free fruit actually that you 348 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: can't find in mainstream supermarket. But if you're an Audi shopper, 349 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: you do need to be careful. Their tubes, unfortunately at 350 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: this stage, are not great when it comes to added sugars, 351 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: so just be careful with that, all right. That brings 352 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: us to the Nutrition Couch product review for another weekly 353 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: And if you haven't done so already, don't forget to 354 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: subscribe to have us deliver it every Sunday or Wednesday morning. 355 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: We have our social sites running and we love to 356 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: get your feedback and in particular, if we've missed any 357 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: great kids yogurts, please let us know and we'll come 358 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: back to them at another stage and we will see 359 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: you on Sunday morning. Have a great week, have a 360 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: good 361 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: Weekend Room, the bust Stand, the bus stat