1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It is Tuesday, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: the twenty first of June, and today we're going international. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: We're talking about the push for Scottish independence, not something 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: I knew a whole lot about before very recently, so 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: I reckon it'll be an interesting one for all our 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: Aussie listeners. Before that, Sam, we got some final news 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: from the election and hopefully this is the last time 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: we have to speak about it. 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: This is kind of the first time we've had a 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: fully settled Senate, so let me take you through it. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party and Clive Palmer's United Australia 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Party or the UAP, have each picked up one seat 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: in the Senate at the federal election this year, and 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: that's official. Hanson herself won a seat in Queensland, while 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: a Victorian Senate seat was won by UAP candidate Ralph Babbitt. 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: John Barrellaro's posting as New South Wales's Trade Commissioner to 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: the US will be the subject of an Upper House inquiry. 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: New South Wales opposition leader Chris Mins called the appointment 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: a quote four hundred thousand dollars a year job for 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: a friend, while premier Dominic Perrete has maintained the Barrelara 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: was offered the job after a quote rigorous global talent 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: search by a recruitment agency to. 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Swimming Now, and Swimming's global body FEENA has voted to 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: restrict the participation of transgender athletes in elite women's events. 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Under the new policy, transgender women must prove that they 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: haven't experienced the physical development stages of male puberty or 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: before the age of twelve, whichever comes later, if they 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: wish to compete in a women's competition. 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: And today's good news another topic I know nothing about. 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Australia has won their first World Cup of Darts title 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: on a historic night in Germany. The Australian duo Simon 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: Whitlock and Damon Header defeated their Welsh counterparts on Sunday 33 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: to become the fifth country to raise the trophy. Whitlock 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: called the moment life changing and called his colleague a 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: great friend and the best player on the planet. 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Right now, I think you and I would be pretty 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: good darts pairings. What was your favorite part of the 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: tournament you were watching? 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Right let's stick to podcasting for today's deep dive. 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about the big breakup that 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: is on the world's lips at the moment. Zara, Let's 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: start by establishing the composition of the United Kingdom and 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to testing knowledge of history here a little bit. 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: But can you give us a crash course on Scotland's 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: history with the UK. 46 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So, the United Kingdom or the UK is a 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: European country made up of four nations, which are England, Wales, 48 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: Northern Ireland and Scotland. So geographically speaking here Scotland makes 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: up the most northern third of the island of Great Britain. 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: It merged with England in the early seventeen hundreds, but 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: has always fought to preserve its national identity in the 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: face of what has sometimes been, let's call it a 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: testy relationship with their southern neighbors. It actually took almost 54 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: three hundred years for Scotland to be granted its own legislature, 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: which happened in nineteen ninety nine. But they are now 56 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: once again looking at the possibility of making away as 57 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: an independent nation. 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: You've mentioned there's been a level of discontent brewing in 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: Scotland for some time now. What's happened recently that has 60 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: put this issue back in our focus. 61 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not every day that we're talking about 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Scotland in the Australian news cycle, but it came after 63 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Scotland's first Minister, her name is Nicola Sturgeon, who's their leader, 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: published the first of a series of paper that presents 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: Scotland's argument to leave the UK. These are being prepared 66 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: to give the Scottish people a resource that can inform 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: their own opinions about independence from the UK ahead of 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: an expected referendum in October next year, not this year, 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: next year, And just a reminder, a referendum is a 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: vote put to the public with a single question. So 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: for example here it would be on something like the 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: ularus statement or on becoming a republic. There it is 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: about this singular issue. So Sturgeon has been staunchly in 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: favor of breaking away from the UK and has said 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: that the move would give Scotland more autonomy over the 76 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: country's decision making and she said it would make its 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: people quote wealthier, happier and fairer. To be done legally, though, 78 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: legislation must be passed in the UK Parliament which will 79 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: authorize the process and then legitimize the outcome. 80 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: And is this the first time the Scottish people have 81 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: voted on their independence. 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: There have been previous referendums regarding Scottish independence. Scotland went 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: to its first independence referendum back in twenty fourteen. At 84 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: that time there were fifty five percent of voters who 85 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: chose to remain in the UK. 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: And so if that's the case, what warrants another referendum 87 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: on the same topic only nine years later, which is 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 2: pretty short for another referendum, Well. 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: The short answer is Brexit. Brexit came after a referendum 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen that asked the whole of the UK 91 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: if they believed that the country should leave the European 92 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: Union the EU, which governs common economic, social and security 93 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: policies for its member states. In that referendum, about fifty 94 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: two percent of voters chose to leave the EU, and 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: that paved the way for the UK to them withdraw 96 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: from the organization in early twenty twenty. Crucially to this story, 97 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: every electorate in Scotland voted to remain in the EU. So, 98 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: just to be clear on that, the majority of the 99 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: public in Scotland wanted to remain as part of the EU, 100 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: but because they're part of the UK, they had to leave. 101 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: It's clear then that this caused a lot of anger 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: and it laid the foundations for fresh talks about the 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: country's autonomy and decision making power, or according to some, 104 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: a lack thereof. Now this sentiment was spearheaded by Sturgeon, 105 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: who after the Brexit vote called Scotland's removal from the 106 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: EU quote democratically unacceptable, and she since said that the 107 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: withdrawal has been quote deeply damaging to Scotland's interests. 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: So, like any government, there's always an opposition party. Is 109 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: this call for independence receiving universal political support across the aisle? 110 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: What's the opposition saying? 111 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: So the opposition party is against this call for independence. 112 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: The move to breakaway has been read rejected by the 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: Conservative Party, which forms most of the opposition to Sturgeon's 114 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: National Party government. The leader of the Conservatives, his name 115 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: is Douglas Ross. He said that the independence vote is 116 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: quote the wrong priority at the worst possible time, and 117 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: has accused the Scottish National Party of trying to divide 118 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: the country. 119 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: The people of Scotland want the focus to be on 120 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: the huge challenges feacing us. We want the focus of 121 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: this government beyond creating better jobs and opportunities. We want 122 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: the focus to be on improving public services Instead, this 123 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: SMP government just offers more distraction disruption undervision. 124 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: It seems to be a relatively polarized discussion. Can you 125 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: summarize the reaction that this push is having over the 126 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: border in the UK? 127 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: Well, the UK government, as you'd expect, has pushed back 128 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: on this and overall has been pretty dismissive for the 129 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: calls for independence. Boris Johnson, UK Prime Minister and leader 130 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: of the UK's Conservative Party, has called for Sturgeon and 131 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: her government to focus on the current issues being faced 132 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: by her people again rather than focusing on this independence referendum. 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: During a sitting of the UK Parliament just last week, 134 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: Johnson clashed with the leader of the Scottish National Party 135 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: in the House of Commons in Blackford, and that was 136 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: over this issue of Scottish independence. Blackford said that Scotland 137 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: was getting big enough, rich enough and smart enough to 138 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: be independent and told Boris Johnson that Scotland couldn't afford 139 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: to remain quote trapped in the failing Westminster system. 140 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a very united kingdom to me. 141 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: That's all we've got time for on today's edition of 142 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: The Daily Oz. If you want to catch up with 143 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: news throughout the day, you can find us over on 144 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: our Instagram page. It's where over three hundred and seventy 145 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: thousand Australians get the news. Until then, we'll speak to 146 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: you tomorrow.