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Speaker 1: This is gam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, our next guest is usually trying to kill Peter

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Speaker 2: Parker in the wildly successful Spider Man movies as doc Och,

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Speaker 2: doctor Otto, Gunta Octavius. Well, now Alfred Molina is starring

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Speaker 2: in a new series Three Pines, and he's one of

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Speaker 2: the good guys. It looks great to tell us more. Hello,

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Speaker 2: Alfred Molina, Hello, Hello. It's so nice to actually see

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Speaker 2: you in the flesh, because for many years I had

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Speaker 2: a doll of you. We can see you, we can

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Speaker 2: see you, fleshish, fleshish, but so nice to see you.

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Speaker 2: I had a doll in our house of you, well,

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Speaker 2: of doc Och. It was in the toy box for many,

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Speaker 2: many years. And you're.

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Speaker 1: Not a voodoo doll.

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Speaker 2: You're quite safe. And the vestill your doll had a vest,

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Speaker 2: and when you took the vest off, the arms came off,

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Speaker 2: and then you were just doctor Octavius. So you're a

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Speaker 2: good guy, bad guy all in one.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool. You know. The nice thing about that doll

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Speaker 3: is that it wasn't very accurate, because for the first time,

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Speaker 3: that doll gave me cheekbones and a six pack, neither

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Speaker 3: of which I've ever possessed.

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Speaker 1: Go with it, I was very flattered by well, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the weekend I was watching Raiders of the Lost aack,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't realize that you're in the opening scenes

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Speaker 1: in Raiders of the Last Act the guy that gets

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Speaker 1: speed in the head. That's right.

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Speaker 3: That was my first movie, first movie. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 3: twenty How old was I twenty five or something like that,

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Speaker 3: and my then partner was was pregnant with our daughter,

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Speaker 3: and I was working in the theater in London on

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Speaker 3: like literally Union Basic. I was next to nothing and

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Speaker 3: this movie comes along and they paid me a thousand

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Speaker 3: pounds for two weeks work. I was like happy as

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Speaker 3: a pig, and shit, I can't tell you. It was amazing,

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Speaker 3: you know. And the note this was like those days,

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Speaker 3: it was like nineteen nineteen eighty, you know. A thousand

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Speaker 3: quid was a nice chunk of change for two weeks work.

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Speaker 3: And I thanked. I thanked Steven Spielberg publicly and privately

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Speaker 3: for that. It was it was the start of everything

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Speaker 3: for me. So I have very I have a very

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Speaker 3: fond memory and very fond connections with that movie.

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Speaker 1: And then then the make was that well, obviously there

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Speaker 1: was a prosthetic head that got speared through. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was there.

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Speaker 2: We did this.

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Speaker 3: They made they made a plaster cast of my whole

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Speaker 3: body because they weren't quite sure how much of it

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Speaker 3: they were going to use. And this is in the

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Speaker 3: days before. Now they use this special epoxy thing which

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Speaker 3: is very light. It's the same sort of thing that

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Speaker 3: they used to make in you know, dental imprints, you know.

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Speaker 3: But in those days it was happier mache. It was

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Speaker 3: like literally strips of paper covered in kind of this

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Speaker 3: gloopy sort of stuff and it was and when it

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Speaker 3: dried it weighed a ton and it was and when

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Speaker 3: they did your face, it was those horrible feeling because

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Speaker 3: you really felt like you were kind of your face

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Speaker 3: was being squashed, and they put two straws up your

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Speaker 3: nose so you could breathe.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: It took all day. It was the most horrible experience.

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Speaker 3: Took all day. But you know, I braved it out,

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Speaker 3: but I hated it. But now now it's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: it takes about ten minutes. Now it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And look at them now you're doing three pints.

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Speaker 2: It is brilliant. Tell us about your character in three pints?

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Speaker 3: Well, my head doesn't get cut off in this one.

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Speaker 3: Not yet anyway. No, it's three pints. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: as you as I'm sure you know. It's based on

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Speaker 3: a series of books by Louise Penny. And you know

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Speaker 3: this is a writer with a global reach. I mean,

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Speaker 3: her books are I think her books have been translated

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Speaker 3: into like twelve languages, maybe more. And you know, it

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Speaker 3: was this came along at a time when at the

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Speaker 3: right time for me personally, but also at a time

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Speaker 3: when you know, we are going through or seemed to

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Speaker 3: be going through a kind of golden age of TV.

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Speaker 3: You know, as movies become more and more you know,

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Speaker 3: bifurcated as it were. You know that you're you're either

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Speaker 3: making big, tent pole movies that cost three hundred million

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Speaker 3: dollars to make, or you're making small, little independent films

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Speaker 3: that ten people in a garage see, you know, and

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Speaker 3: it's and there's this huge vacuum and it's being filled

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Speaker 3: by incredibly talented people. You know, when when you think

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Speaker 3: Martin Scorsese is making television films and you think, well,

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Speaker 3: it's there's an amazing amount of talent now involved in TV.

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Speaker 3: I remember a time when TV was where actors went

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Speaker 3: to die where careers went, you know, it was it

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Speaker 3: was rather frowned upon and not taken very seriously.

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Speaker 1: Well, I had a primo the other day and it

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Speaker 1: said Sylvester Stallone in his first major TV role, And

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Speaker 1: there was a time when there was a time that

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Speaker 1: used to be reversed around. It used to be you know,

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Speaker 1: sylvest time in his first movie role.

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Speaker 3: That was the big things, right, That's right, And I

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Speaker 3: think it's it's it's not just a testament to the

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Speaker 3: quality of the work that's going on in TV. It's

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Speaker 3: also I think what's happen is that there's an acceptance

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Speaker 3: now that work on television is a valid it's a

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Speaker 3: valid art form, you know. And also when you think

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Speaker 3: about it, I don't know about you guys, but for

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, your TV screen is pretty big now.

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Speaker 3: You know, people have got surround sound, so watching TV

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Speaker 3: is in itself much more of a cinematic experience, if.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Yeah, our viewing habits are

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Speaker 2: very different. I think that's playing out here too. Well.

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Speaker 2: This looks absolutely incredible, and I'm hoping this is the

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Speaker 2: first of many of these books that then make it

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Speaker 2: to the screen.

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Speaker 3: I hope so too. This could be my pension.

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Speaker 1: Without without any paper mache or plaster.

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Speaker 3: Powers extracurricular activities involved.

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Speaker 1: There's no digging around. It's just it's just happening. You

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Speaker 1: said it, not me, Well, we want to see more

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Speaker 1: of it. It's fantastic. Three pines a streaming December second

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Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime Video. Out from Molina. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're most welcome. Thanks for the interest. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Take care,