Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
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Speaker 1: to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and on this
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Speaker 1: TV Reload reloads the shows that you are currently watching
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Speaker 1: have had the top three queens from RuPaul's Drag Race
Speaker 1: down Under season two, and on today's episode, I will
Speaker 1: hopefully give the fans a better insight into Hannah Conder's
Speaker 1: resume and help you answer that question, is Hannah the
Speaker 1: winner of the second series of down Under? This Saturday
Speaker 1: is already the finale, and while the series has been
Speaker 1: a wild ride, I think the finale is going to
Speaker 1: be an excellent celebration of three very very popular queens
Speaker 1: who truly deserve to be there. Hannah Conda, for a
Speaker 1: very long time was a standout from the Perth drag circuit. However,
Speaker 1: She quickly outgrew the Golden State and in twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: moved to Sydney, where she cemented her superstar status by
Speaker 1: being the only queen to have ever won both the
Speaker 1: Rising Star and Entertainer of the Year at the Drag
Speaker 1: Industry Variety Awards in the same year. Hannah has been
Speaker 1: consistent throughout the competition and fantastic to watch. There's just
Speaker 1: something very polished and on purpose with everything that she
Speaker 1: has done this season. We will talk about why she
Speaker 1: nearly didn't apply for the series, her connection with Molly Poppins,
Speaker 1: why she couldn't be bothered with the drama this season,
Speaker 1: and of course, what she will do with her win
Speaker 1: if she snatches that crown. Plus for the last time,
Speaker 1: we will play my shady old lady game with a
Speaker 1: few surprising answers. Let's get started with today's guest. I'd
Speaker 1: like to welcome Hannah Konda from RuPaul's Drag Race down
Speaker 1: Under season two to TV Reload.
Speaker 2: If the universe says it's meant to be, it will happen. Canaconda,
Speaker 2: you came in, you knew exactly what you wanted to do.
Speaker 3: If I was to take out the crown I just
Speaker 3: want to, you know, make sure that I do people.
Speaker 2: Proud Canaconda, Chante Eustaf. I do say that drag has
Speaker 2: saved my life many.
Speaker 3: Time walking down the runway. We are serving Queen of
Speaker 3: dreams and Queen of nightmares.
Speaker 2: Realness.
Speaker 3: I'm really glad to come to the other side and
Speaker 3: I've got the best support. Which queen will be crowned
Speaker 3: down under next Drag Superstar. Or just before I auditioned
Speaker 3: for Drag Race, I was in a really really bad space.
Speaker 1: Hi there, Hanaconda, how the hell are you?
Speaker 2: Ah, Darlana, I am going so good. Thank you.
Speaker 3: I've lost my voice. I was in the Brokenheill Festival
Speaker 3: this weekend, so I'm recuperating from that and it was
Speaker 3: a wild time wild.
Speaker 1: You're I think you're in a friend of mine snapchats.
Speaker 1: Oh no, not snapchats. What is it? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: I sound so old. Joe Crazy was there and he
Speaker 1: had a video of you. Yes, there we go.
Speaker 3: There, there's the Instagram Instagram stories. That's what you're looking
Speaker 3: for their dalent.
Speaker 1: I sound so old. Anyway, congragulations are making it to
Speaker 1: the top three. You must be so proud.
Speaker 3: Oh Dan, I'm so overwhelmed and excited and it is.
Speaker 3: I am very very proud of myself and proud of
Speaker 3: the girls, and yeah, we did it.
Speaker 2: We made it to the end.
Speaker 1: Throughout the series, I have to ask everyone if they
Speaker 1: were happy with the way they came across, you know,
Speaker 1: but I was watching on the Instagram lives, you know,
Speaker 1: people are referring to it as their edit. Are you
Speaker 1: happy with your edit?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Overwhelmingly, You're like really happy with how I've been
Speaker 3: edited and the things that were there. I think my
Speaker 3: one thing that I wish I got a little bit
Speaker 3: more of was just a little bit more story about
Speaker 3: like me. I feel like, you know, they've showcased me
Speaker 3: like being like funny and and like, you know, doing
Speaker 3: good at the challenges and drag and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and I just I wish we just dove a little
Speaker 3: bit deeper into who I was, because I shared a
Speaker 3: lot with them, and I just didn't feel like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe my cat maybe that's what they just
Speaker 3: needed for me. I don't know how it all comes together,
Speaker 3: but that was the one thing I wish I got
Speaker 3: a little bit more story about who I am as
Speaker 3: a person outside of the drag.
Speaker 1: But That's the thing that's interesting is that you and
Speaker 1: Molly Poppins. I was really interested about your backstory more
Speaker 1: so than anyone else's. I mean, I did already know
Speaker 1: more Aboutquing Kong before I watched the series, but for
Speaker 1: you and Molly, I just was like, I want to know,
Speaker 1: I want to know how did you find drag?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's those things that like, I just don't
Speaker 3: feel we got to explore as much in the show.
Speaker 3: And like I sort of came to drag, you know,
Speaker 3: about thirteen years ago, back in Perth. I started and
Speaker 3: it was one of those things where I was in
Speaker 3: a friendship group with a at drag queen who had
Speaker 3: just started and names Ruby Jules, and I was, you know,
Speaker 3: going to the shows with her and supporting her, and
Speaker 3: she's like, you need to give it a go, and
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, one night, I'll do it one
Speaker 3: night only that's it. So she put me into drag
Speaker 3: and I went to the Court Hotel on an amateur
Speaker 3: drag night on a Wednesday night.
Speaker 2: I did my first show and I did wear my
Speaker 2: kiss by the sugar.
Speaker 3: Bags and I was using it to tell a boy
Speaker 3: that I liked him, and like I went up and
Speaker 3: I kissed him on the cheek and I thought it
Speaker 3: was really great. And anyway, that relationship never went anywhere,
Speaker 3: but the drag took on, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the drag.
Speaker 3: Relationship all worked out well, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I love this more than anyone else. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I kind of just fell in love with it and
Speaker 3: I just love being able to perform. And it became
Speaker 3: a therapy for me, to be honest, you know, I've
Speaker 3: had a journey with the yielding mental health and for me,
Speaker 3: I just you know, I've always had, you know, to
Speaker 3: live alongside depression and anxiety, so more so pression. Anxiety
Speaker 3: has been a new thing, but depression was one of
Speaker 3: those ones. I was like, I just found it was
Speaker 3: a way to channel all of those emotions and those
Speaker 3: feelings that I was having into a space where I
Speaker 3: could share that story through music and through performing and
Speaker 3: kind of find, you know, relationships with people like I
Speaker 3: feel that like that's how I've been feeling, and it
Speaker 3: kind of allowed the feeling to just alleviate my body
Speaker 3: and it was just like it was just helping me
Speaker 3: express what I needed to like to have put out
Speaker 3: in the world.
Speaker 2: When I couldn't find the words for it.
Speaker 3: So that's why I do say that Dragon has saved
Speaker 3: my life many times, if I'm honest. Was Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: always been that sort of safe space where I find
Speaker 3: that I can alleviate those emotions.
Speaker 1: I think it's share your story. When we see the
Speaker 1: people that we idolize on television being real, it helps
Speaker 1: us feel seen. It helps us so much. And if
Speaker 1: you're willing to talk to people about your struggles of
Speaker 1: depression and anxiety, I guarantee you that currency with the
Speaker 1: audience is going to be there for you because it
Speaker 1: takes a lot of courage to be able to do.
Speaker 3: It, absolutely, And that's the thing that like, I talked
Speaker 3: about it quite a bit, and there was actually a
Speaker 3: chat when my self Clean and Spank You were talking
Speaker 3: about our ads, And just before I auditioned for Drag Race,
Speaker 3: I was in a really, really bad space, and I think,
Speaker 3: like a lot of people, like the lockdowns and being
Speaker 3: isolated from people really just took did a number on
Speaker 3: me in the last few years. I just and it
Speaker 3: was one of those that usually my depression comes in
Speaker 3: waves and I can kind of write it and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: she's here for a little bit and she'll be constant.
Speaker 3: But this one wasn't budging. This one just did not move.
Speaker 3: And I wasn't going to audition for the season. To
Speaker 3: be honest, I had lost love of drag. Even drag
Speaker 3: wasn't pulling me out of it. And that's when I
Speaker 3: knew I was in like a rotten place. And my partner,
Speaker 3: he said, you know what, you need to just get
Speaker 3: yourself together.
Speaker 2: We are literally in a lockdown. You'd have nothing else
Speaker 2: to do. Film it.
Speaker 3: If you like it, send it. If you don't like it,
Speaker 3: don't send it. Just do it because you need to
Speaker 3: like do something about your mind right now. And it
Speaker 3: was great and I did it because it got me
Speaker 3: inspired again. I was having fun and I sent off
Speaker 3: the audition tape because I was proud of it by
Speaker 3: the end of it, and I was like, ah, I
Speaker 3: got that zest of love back. And I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, if it's if I can really sort of
Speaker 3: hone in on these, like you know, this newfound love
Speaker 3: of drag, I could get on the show and do
Speaker 3: something with it. And I said, if the universe says
Speaker 3: it's meant to be, it'll happen.
Speaker 2: And with the universe, she said, yes, let's go.
Speaker 1: People who are suffering from depression, the commonality is that
Speaker 1: we always feel like this is how it will be forever.
Speaker 1: We can't see out of it. And when we held
Speaker 1: story like yourself, it's the proof and the pudding that
Speaker 1: we have to keep going because things can change.
Speaker 3: Like the tunnel that you get suck in just seems
Speaker 3: like it's completely out of darkness.
Speaker 2: And I found the light through doing drag Race.
Speaker 3: And then when I got home after filming, I think,
Speaker 3: you just you burn yourself out to because you just
Speaker 3: give everything. You give everything to the to the to
Speaker 3: the journey, and I, you know, and I dipped back
Speaker 3: in again to a bit of a depression and I
Speaker 3: wasn't a great again and I just I just couldn't
Speaker 3: sort of again got stuck, and I was like, what
Speaker 3: if I I've just done something so magical and wonderful,
Speaker 3: yet I'm here again and I couldn't figure it out,
Speaker 3: and I was wondering what's going on and my anxiety
Speaker 3: was through the roof. But I was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: and again it just got me, gave me the courage
Speaker 3: myself to pick myself up and go, you know, what
Speaker 3: we're going to get through this. So you know, I
Speaker 3: got my mental health plan back on board, you know,
Speaker 3: started going back to therapy. You know, I got on
Speaker 3: the right medication and again, I just I pulled myself
Speaker 3: back out and I'm even in a better and stronger
Speaker 3: place now than when I was, even just after the show.
Speaker 3: If it's been a rollercoaster, but I'm really really proud
Speaker 3: of myself to where I am, and I feel like
Speaker 3: through this, like through watching it all back, it's been
Speaker 3: quite cathartic and I've been able to, you know, to
Speaker 3: actually be proud of myself and you know, go, yes,
Speaker 3: I did that. And I really thought that, like watching
Speaker 3: it back was going to be really hard and maybe
Speaker 3: trigger something again, but it's done the opposite. It's actually
Speaker 3: just alleviated me, and it's pushed me to a place
Speaker 3: where I've kind of been able to not worry about
Speaker 3: what the world thinks about me, not worry about the
Speaker 3: opinions of others, and it's just all the things I
Speaker 3: worry about making sure that I'm happy. My family was happy,
Speaker 3: my heart was happy, and I'm putting out good things
Speaker 3: into the world and that's all I can do. So
Speaker 3: It's been a wild journey and a wild ride, but
Speaker 3: I'm so incredibly happy where I'm at now.
Speaker 2: And I look back at that moment when.
Speaker 3: I got back and I started to slip back into
Speaker 3: that sort of depression and anxiety, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, Like I was on the in a
Speaker 3: really again, a really bad place, and I look back
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, You've just got
Speaker 3: to like fight through that forest. You know, that forested
Speaker 3: is dark, scary and awful, but the second you push
Speaker 3: through it, you start realizing.
Speaker 2: It's not that bad.
Speaker 3: It's not that bad, but you have to kind of
Speaker 3: lift yourself up.
Speaker 2: And I'm very lucky with my partner. I'm very honest
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 3: When I start feeling that, I'm like, babe, she's having
Speaker 3: a moment, like, you know, let me talk, like and
Speaker 3: I like to talk about it.
Speaker 2: So I once I start talking about it, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: so yeah.
Speaker 3: I find like you always got to have that one
Speaker 3: person in your life that you can just say I'm
Speaker 3: not okay, because naturally I'm very happy and bubbly, and
Speaker 3: everybody sort of expects that all the time from me,
Speaker 3: and the reality is it's not the case. Behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: and I'm very very good at putting it on when
Speaker 3: I need to. And that's the scary part. Like I
Speaker 3: think the second I stop doing that and like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm having a bad day.
Speaker 2: I'm having a tough time at the moment.
Speaker 3: You know, I found a lot of comfort with a
Speaker 3: lot of other people and then very understanding, And I
Speaker 3: think you're just going to have trust in the people
Speaker 3: you love that they will be understanding and they're not
Speaker 3: going to run away from you.
Speaker 1: Coming off the back of a show like this is
Speaker 1: what people don't realize. When you tell yourself not to
Speaker 1: feel a certain way, that's a breeding ground for more
Speaker 1: turbulence in your own mind because you've come off through
Speaker 1: poles and you're saying to yourself, oh my god, I've
Speaker 1: just done the most amazing thing. I should be happy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Telling yourself not to feel
Speaker 1: a certain way is a breeding ground for more depression.
Speaker 3: I think two things can be true at once, and
Speaker 3: you can be incredibly grateful, Like I was very very
Speaker 3: grateful for the opportunity, and I loved it at the
Speaker 3: best time, and I was on an absolute high while
Speaker 3: I was there, and I was loving it, but you know,
Speaker 3: I also still had that feeling, and I had to
Speaker 3: allow myself to be okay with those two things. You know,
Speaker 3: it wasn't me being ungrateful, or it wasn't me being
Speaker 3: unhappy with how everything went. I was very very happy
Speaker 3: about that. But it's just you know, and for those
Speaker 3: of people that do have this as a part of
Speaker 3: their experience, they will understand that you can be so
Speaker 3: proud and so excited about one thing, but then that
Speaker 3: darkness can just wash over everything and it's really hard
Speaker 3: to budge sometimes. Tis But I'm really glad I've come
Speaker 3: to the other side and I've got the best support.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I couldn't ask for better support, to be fair.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear that. You know, what do
Speaker 1: you think this will mean to you? Though? You know,
Speaker 1: to win RuPaul's Drag Race if you take this competition out, well.
Speaker 2: I already feel like I've won.
Speaker 3: If I'm honest, I've got Queen and Spanky as best
Speaker 3: friends for life, and that means more than any other prize,
Speaker 3: Like that was one of those things like and even
Speaker 3: and you know what, even the whole cast like they
Speaker 3: were friends for life. They're just brilliant, So I already
Speaker 3: feel like a winner, but if I was to take
Speaker 3: out the crown, I just want to keep, you know,
Speaker 3: make sure that I do people proud, lead with the
Speaker 3: love and kindness.
Speaker 2: I think we need more of that, and I want.
Speaker 3: To start to sort of be a bit of a
Speaker 3: champion to unite our community a little bit more. I
Speaker 3: feel over the last few years we've become quite divided,
Speaker 3: and you know, while we have a lot of acceptance
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of growth in our community outside
Speaker 3: of our own bubbles, there's still a lot of work
Speaker 3: to be done. There are still people around the world
Speaker 3: that are being persecuted for who they love or what
Speaker 3: gender they are, and I feel we can't help them
Speaker 3: if we can't be united together and stand together. And
Speaker 3: that was the one thing that when I first started
Speaker 3: going out, you know, didn't matter what political views you had,
Speaker 3: didn't matter what gender you were, didn't matter where you
Speaker 3: came from, all these things, nothing really mattered apart from
Speaker 3: the fact that we were together in these clubs and bars,
Speaker 3: and that was community.
Speaker 2: You know, you might not like someone, but if.
Speaker 3: They got hurt or they got you know, like attacked
Speaker 3: or whatever, we're all there, we rally behind them, and
Speaker 3: I don't see that as much anymore.
Speaker 2: I see that we are very divided, and I want to.
Speaker 3: Be able to sort of be that, you know, I said,
Speaker 3: I want to be the Tazan Grip to start helping
Speaker 3: to glue those holes back together and bring us back together,
Speaker 3: because we can do a lot more positive work and
Speaker 3: create a lot more positive change together.
Speaker 1: Thinking about, you know, relationships with Queen Kong and you
Speaker 1: know Molly Poppins, you know, I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: about your relationship with Molly Hoppens because what I thought
Speaker 1: was interesting was the two of you kind of put
Speaker 1: yourselves together as like the Hobbits in a way, and
Speaker 1: there were some similarities. But I wonder whether or not
Speaker 1: it was a strength or a weakness for the two
Speaker 1: of you, because as we did as an audience compare
Speaker 1: the both of you, you kind of got stronger and
Speaker 1: Molly got a little bit into her head a little
Speaker 1: bit more so it was more noticeable the slip. I
Speaker 1: wondered how you saw that, Yeah, that's very interesting.
Speaker 3: When I was because we did the challenge together and
Speaker 3: that was where the Hobbits sort of sisters were born.
Speaker 3: And but then you know, as the competition kept going,
Speaker 3: I like, Molly and I are the best of friends
Speaker 3: and I love it a bit. But I feel like
Speaker 3: once that kind of was done, I never really like
Speaker 3: kind of tied myself to it. And I don't want
Speaker 3: to say I'm disrespectful to Molly or anything, but I
Speaker 3: was like, we're all here doing our own thing, and
Speaker 3: I just kept on going with it, and you know,
Speaker 3: when I could throw in the Hobbit thing and would
Speaker 3: be together and whatever, and if I could use it
Speaker 3: to help Molly or you know, whenever, I would do that.
Speaker 3: But for me, it was kind of like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: going to still continue to show case in myself. And I
Speaker 3: don't think Molly necessarily tied herself into that. I just
Speaker 3: feel like, because we set that up so early, I
Speaker 3: think it just kind of was sort of thrown in
Speaker 3: there in their editing and with and with the way
Speaker 3: that the show's unfolded that you know, there was that
Speaker 3: sort of comparison always. It didn't feel like that while
Speaker 3: was there, though. That was the interesting thing. When I
Speaker 3: was there, we still felt very much individual into who
Speaker 3: we were, and you know, well, you know, our friendship
Speaker 3: was allowed to thrive. But it never felt like something
Speaker 3: that was like whoa, well, they're the Hobbits and they're
Speaker 3: versing each other.
Speaker 2: You know. It was it was very casual, like do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I felt like, maybe this is a terrible thing to
Speaker 1: admit to, but I sort of put the two of
Speaker 1: you together as if you were and I'm not speaking
Speaker 1: saying this is how everyone felt. It was for me,
Speaker 1: I kind of put you two together, and then that
Speaker 1: naturally makes you sort of compare people's.
Speaker 2: That's the goal. That's the goal of television, really, is it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So then I was kind of unfairly, I guess,
Speaker 1: comparing the two of you and holding you both to
Speaker 1: the same standard, only just because your standard rose that
Speaker 1: I then sort of was like, oh, this seems more
Speaker 1: noticeable that Molly's not doing as well anymore, I think,
Speaker 1: especially after the tourism type challenge that you did. You know,
Speaker 1: yours was just so polished and amazing, was so well done.
Speaker 2: It was that was for me, is like I was
Speaker 2: very proud of that. To be honest, I thought I
Speaker 2: was gone, but I.
Speaker 3: Made sure because they said because they mentioned about using
Speaker 3: the editors and the people that put their commercials together
Speaker 3: to give them all the notes. So I gave them
Speaker 3: everything I was. It was such a detailed rundown of
Speaker 3: what I wanted and I kind of didn't give them
Speaker 3: an option but to do it.
Speaker 2: The black swan.
Speaker 1: Do that? Just do that? Now we do that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the black swan I thought was just going
Speaker 3: to be a stock image of a swan. But when
Speaker 3: they like that was the one thing that I was like,
Speaker 3: thank you so much, and it is they made this
Speaker 3: swan move, and I was like, I didn't know the possibilities.
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be a stock image,
Speaker 3: and I would have still I still thought it would
Speaker 3: have been funny for me to try and be hitting
Speaker 3: a stock image of a giant like swan behind me.
Speaker 2: I think that would have still been hysterical.
Speaker 3: But I think what I noticed is that, like, you
Speaker 3: know the difference between mine and like Spanky's, for instance,
Speaker 3: like everybody loves Spanky's because it was you know, it's
Speaker 3: that also very good, very very funny, like very funny,
Speaker 3: and she's got that kind of she's kind of almost
Speaker 3: like that sort of bag of chips level funny where
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, it's very you know it's very
Speaker 3: much better, but.
Speaker 2: You know, give me a chippy fuck yeah.
Speaker 3: All of that like very mine was, I think was
Speaker 3: a little bit more cerebral, if I want to say, like,
Speaker 3: I feel like it was a little bit more of
Speaker 3: a thinker. And I think that's what kind of because
Speaker 3: I know that the fans were like, it had to
Speaker 3: rub Spanky had a rub Spanky, and I felt really
Speaker 3: bad that I like, I was like, oh no, did
Speaker 3: I rub her? But then I was like, you know
Speaker 3: it for younger people, that loud camp thing is very
Speaker 3: in your face funny, whereas mine was like you had
Speaker 3: to have a little bit more of a thinker. And
Speaker 3: if you googled the locations and the things that I
Speaker 3: was talking about, everything related back to Perth.
Speaker 2: Everything that I mentioned in that it was.
Speaker 3: Just in my brand. And so it was a different
Speaker 3: type of funny I think, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: It's different, it was, but it was very it was
Speaker 1: very clever, like it was really well put together.
Speaker 3: It was the first time though I've achieved comedy that
Speaker 3: my partner appreciated because I can usually am loud crazy
Speaker 3: like Spanky, very funny and together we nuts.
Speaker 2: But Jack was like that was so thought out, that
Speaker 2: was so well done.
Speaker 3: It was like, that was a real thinking piece and
Speaker 3: it made me laugh and I was like.
Speaker 1: That is me and my partner, Ben never laughs at
Speaker 1: anything I say. So it's very confusing. My name's Ben, Ben,
Speaker 1: very confusing. I love confusing. So self obsessed. It was
Speaker 1: the closest thing I could do to dating myself. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he certainly doesn't laugh in my humor or, and other
Speaker 1: people are always laughing and he's like yeah, He's like no,
Speaker 1: they were very happy to see him laugh.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I love that. That's brilliant.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, you know, the Shadier Queens didn't make it
Speaker 1: to the end. Do you think that, you know, some
Speaker 1: shady queens that create some drama, They create some good
Speaker 1: content in the middle of a show, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: really lend itself to making it to the finale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does make great TV.
Speaker 3: And like, to be honest, a lot of people say
Speaker 3: we were like really mean to each other, and I
Speaker 3: don't know what show they were watching.
Speaker 2: I was like, we were being sisters, Like this is camps.
Speaker 2: It's fun.
Speaker 3: Plus there was some real, you know, drama obviously, but
Speaker 3: I was like, have you.
Speaker 2: Watched the American version, have you watched Canada's version?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What about us was being nasty? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was like, we're very tame, but yeah, like the
Speaker 3: drama is always fun. I kin'd of steer clear of
Speaker 3: it because I don't care. It's not my not my
Speaker 3: cup of tea. I don't get off on the drama.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: When I get pushed to a point where I can't,
Speaker 3: you know, keep it in anymore, I will have a
Speaker 3: moment as we all saw when I talk to Paul Beverly.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I just don't care.
Speaker 3: And I, you know, my asshole is so sold because
Speaker 3: I sit on the fence all the time, and that's
Speaker 3: where I like it.
Speaker 2: You get a good you get a good fear from
Speaker 2: the top.
Speaker 3: You know, and I like to see it all happening.
Speaker 3: But to be honest, it just doesn't interest me. I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: set yourself out.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm asking everyone because everyone was asking me
Speaker 1: online to ask you three in the final three? You know,
Speaker 1: what do you do to get noticed to get picked
Speaker 1: to be on a show like this? Have you got
Speaker 1: any advice with people who might want to apply to
Speaker 1: get onto Roupol's.
Speaker 2: Drag race, yeah one.
Speaker 3: And my thing was is that you cannot be anyone
Speaker 3: but yourself. And I know that sounds very cliche, but
Speaker 3: I just did me.
Speaker 2: I didn't sugarcoat myself. I didn't try and put all
Speaker 2: the bells and whistles.
Speaker 3: I know, people hide out studios and did all this
Speaker 3: green screen ship.
Speaker 2: All of that doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 3: It's a it's an audition tape, and they just want
Speaker 3: to see your personality.
Speaker 2: They want to see what you can do. I found
Speaker 2: everything in this drag room. It was a mess.
Speaker 3: It was shit everywhere, and that part of the fun,
Speaker 3: like don't you know, don't be anything but you you.
Speaker 2: Know, Oh I love it.
Speaker 1: You know, Rece Nicholson does a fantastic job as being
Speaker 1: a permanent co host, but I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: there's space up there for one more permanent person on
Speaker 1: the show. If we had someone in the Australian New
Speaker 1: Zealand television, you know, entertainment industry that could sit alongside
Speaker 1: Rey Nicholson. Who do you think would be a good
Speaker 1: part of the queer representation.
Speaker 2: Who would I love to see up there? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you know, I.
Speaker 1: Think Joel Creasy should be there. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: it's strange to me that Joel's not there, if I'm
Speaker 1: going to be really honest, But anyway.
Speaker 3: That's fair. Yeah, I agree, Joel would be amazing up there.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see Joel there. I would like I'm
Speaker 3: really I'm really good friends with Norelda Jacobs. She's a
Speaker 3: news presenter here. Yeah, yeah, And I feel like she's
Speaker 3: so the way that she like talks about things, She's
Speaker 3: just got this beautiful softness and this delicateness that I
Speaker 3: think would be just such an interesting point of view
Speaker 3: to have on the panel. I think she could be
Speaker 3: really fabulous because she likes to dress up and I live,
Speaker 3: and she loves draged. She loves drag. I've known Norelda
Speaker 3: for it, well, oh my god, for like ten years now.
Speaker 3: So I would love to see her there. She'd be fabulous.
Speaker 3: Who else did I like, you know, like Sophie Monk
Speaker 3: could be camped. She'd be fabulous up there, you.
Speaker 1: Know, three different shows at the moment, So she's not here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'll take Norealda from here because I love Nolda,
Speaker 1: and I also think the wider community has yet to
Speaker 1: see the real magic of Nolda, and everyone I know
Speaker 1: who knows her personally talks of about her in a
Speaker 1: different light to the way I think I know her
Speaker 1: because I've never met it for yourself. Yeah, everybody that's
Speaker 1: worked with her on studio Tim that I'm friends with,
Speaker 1: they all just absolutely love her. And I think it's
Speaker 1: a really good Yeah, a good person from a whole
Speaker 1: different way of looking at it, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, like you know, I think if
Speaker 3: you watch her and when she hosts the Mardi Gras,
Speaker 3: that is like, Yeah, when you watch her there, she
Speaker 3: is like just living.
Speaker 2: She's like mesmerized by it all.
Speaker 3: And I feel like that would be so cute to
Speaker 3: watch on drag Race. And I think I would love
Speaker 3: to see her banter with Rue and Michelle.
Speaker 2: I think she'd be great.
Speaker 3: Actually, yes, I'm going to position for Norelda or the
Speaker 3: drag Race panel.
Speaker 1: Who would you recommend for a serious three If there
Speaker 1: is a serious three so queen out there that you've
Speaker 1: come across over the many years that you think would
Speaker 1: do well on this sort of format.
Speaker 3: God, You're going to get me in so much trouble
Speaker 3: with all because I would just.
Speaker 1: Other one.
Speaker 3: My God, I've got to say in Sydney my two
Speaker 3: sisters that I work together with regularly, Charisma Belt and
Speaker 3: Calm and get it and say that both of them
Speaker 3: because they are absolute SIF stars. I think Carmen is
Speaker 3: an absolute laugh right, Charisma is a consummate professional.
Speaker 2: She's an incredible talent. They both are. I'd love to
Speaker 2: see those two brilliant. I love it and if I didn't.
Speaker 3: Say them, they would be messaging me being all you
Speaker 3: hateful bitch. So I have third willed them so hard
Speaker 3: since I moved to Sydney, So yeah, they're my pick.
Speaker 1: Well, this has just been so fantastic to have this
Speaker 1: chat with you because I'm obsessed with you. But I
Speaker 1: have to finish up with this game that I've been
Speaker 1: playing called Shady or Lady. I've been terrible in introducing it,
Speaker 1: so I'm so glad I'm still playing this game all
Speaker 1: the way to the end of the show. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask you these questions and if you don't
Speaker 1: want to answer it, just say lady. You know you're
Speaker 1: being a lady, But if you just everyone's just been
Speaker 1: answering them, So everyone's been shady unless I hear you
Speaker 1: say lady. Just answer the question and be shady.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, great, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Glad to know that I've got worse at explaining this
Speaker 1: game to people. Aw I love Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's my own I think don't. I think Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: must do it on Watch What Happens Live? But anyway,
Speaker 1: who was the most talented queen this season? We're adding
Speaker 1: another rule in. We're adding another rule in. I cannot
Speaker 1: say yourself for any of these not one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say spanking queen.
Speaker 1: You can't say two. You've got to pick one.
Speaker 2: Narrow it down queen.
Speaker 1: Okay. Who was the funniest.
Speaker 3: Spanky for sure? Spanky for sure? She nearly maybe wet
Speaker 3: my pants?
Speaker 1: Who did you not like or get enough time to
Speaker 1: maybe get to know?
Speaker 2: Eily?
Speaker 1: Who was the messiest queen?
Speaker 2: Molly? Molly? She was bloody, had a ship everywhere. And
Speaker 2: I can't say too.
Speaker 1: You can't say too. We've gone with Molly and no
Speaker 1: one said Molly yet, So we're sharing it around.
Speaker 2: Okay. Can I just put it like a sub note
Speaker 2: in there?
Speaker 3: For Mara, I shared a station with her and she
Speaker 3: kept getting a ship in my ship.
Speaker 2: Sorry, she's fun, she's fun.
Speaker 1: She could be me, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And then not you. But who out of the top
Speaker 1: three do you think deserves to win?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they both do. We're actually going through
Speaker 2: a street way tie. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: if Rude knows that, but we're doing that. But it
Speaker 2: has we won.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think I'm gonna say, Queen, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say Queen.
Speaker 1: Well, can I just say to you you have been
Speaker 1: so funny and we have had we've gone off on
Speaker 1: some some fu and we'll send it off to the
Speaker 1: editor and they'll have to work out what gets left
Speaker 1: in the podcast. But thank you so much for being
Speaker 1: so open today and like having this chat. And congragulations
Speaker 1: is what they say on making it to the top three,
Speaker 1: and good luck.
Speaker 3: I'm always so much bad. Oh, it was an absolute treat.
Speaker 3: I really really appreciate you having me on. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't wait to meet you in person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll stalk you, don't you worry. Please don't have
Speaker 1: to find I'll find you.