1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: That is so fatch. Thank you. I feel like I'm 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: literally sitting in a germ chamber at the moment. Kate 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: and Amy are both in the studio, so I don't know. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm next. So if you don't hear 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: it from me in the next episode, you know what's happened. Yeah, 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: it would just be you and me. Amy extent, I'm 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: not really talking to you because I'm so mad at 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: you forgiving me this cold. I don't understand how I 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: got it and Dale didn't. It makes no sense. I 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: have no idea. I would have thought Sophie would get 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: it because we're the ones who spend all day with 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: each other without business. I don't even spend that much 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: time with you, Like, what the fuck? Well, some women 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: coughed in my face in a shopping center, so I 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: think that's where I got it. From so maybe we 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: can channel our rage at hers. See I was channeling 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: my rage at you. But then also that kid at 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: that Indian restaurant we went to that was coughing the 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: other day as well. It's so funny though, because my 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: boss was saying how he never gets sick, and it 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: was okay that I was sitting near him, and then 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: he has actually off this week too, So I feel 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: like I'm like, now that hated person in his life 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: at the moment. Well, at least you weren't sick on 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: our birthday because it was our I mean, I don't 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: know if anyone knows. We did absolutely post so many 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: photos on Instagram about our birthday. Yes, we were thrashing 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: Instagram a little bit. Do you know what, though you 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: say I wasn't sick on my birthday, I had terrible 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: food poisoning after that. It actually leads on perfectly because 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: for our birthday, Mum organized us this rainbow cake. And 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: I think we've spoken about og listeners to remember we 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: got this birthday cake for our thirtieth birthday, but well 39 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: thirtieth going on five, because I think it's really a 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: kid's cake. Yeah, it is a kid's cake. So basically, 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: it's got the different tears and it's red, orange, jelly, green, purple, 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: so it was rainbow and then it's got rainbow colored 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: sprinkles around. Anyway, it was really funny because after everyone 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: ate the cake, suddenly people started reporting that they were 45 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: having green poos and it must be because all of 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: the colors mixed together, So we were kind of apprehensive. 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: We did order it again, but strangely enough, no one 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: experienced the green pool again. It is weird that green 49 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: was the most dominant food diet out of all of 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: them because you mixed the cake up at family dinner, 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: we had it again and it turned brown, not green. Yeah, 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: so just to clarify, everyone got the green poos on 53 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: our thirtieth this year, no green poos. But Sophie, you 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: said that there was a well known English YouTuber who 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: was talking about having a pink poo. I think that 56 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: I think they did get that checked out of the door. Well, 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: he didn't have a pink pooh, but he was eating 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: pink food for twenty four hours, and he said that 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: if he got fifteen thousand likes on the video, he 60 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: would be reporting back whether his poo was pink or not. 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Is that how desperate we are now for views on 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: and likes on things? Did he eat beet trued as 63 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: a part of that diet? Oh yes, yea the beatry 64 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: rap so definitely probably would be a pink pooh coming 65 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: his way. Yeah. Can you imagine if we were like, oh, 66 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: once we hit a million subscribers, we'll take a photo 67 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: of at green poo like how a pole. He didn't 68 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: say he'd take a photo. He just said he'd report back. 69 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: I think that was going a little bit too far, 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: but you know, that's what boys do. They send each 71 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: other photos of their poop. Oh my god. So on 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: the weekend, I was at an engagement party with one 73 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: of Brandon's friends and his friend is like pooh obsessed. 74 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't be saying this, but he is the 75 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: sort of person that he sends constant snapchats of his poo, 76 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: to the point where Brandon has to shield his phone 77 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want me to see them, and he 78 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: just and it's funny. Has this point, he got a girlfriend, 79 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: he's engaged, What the hell? Yeah, he's engaged. He's actually 80 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: a really lovely guy. But yeah, it's funny because Brandon 81 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: works in a very corporate office environment, and he said 82 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: he constantly tries to send the videos to Brandon during 83 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: the day so that his boss might see them. Actually, 84 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I think one of the basketball is that the thirty 85 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: six ers was doing that too. Must be like quite 86 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: a common thing. Can you imagine if a girl did that? 87 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: You know, you go out for dinner, you get home 88 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: and just send a picture of your big poo to 89 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: each other. I love repulsive. Well, girls are so opposite. 90 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: They're trying to pretend that they don't pooh all their friends. Yeah, 91 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and well, then again we are talking about it, so 92 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: maybe girls are more open to talking about these things. 93 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: How do we get from our birthday on to poo? Like? That? 94 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Is just so found? Phil phil Oh no, phil oh Jesus. 95 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was a falzer. I thought it was safe. 96 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: Micro influencer Caitlyn Rodriguez has sparked debate over influencers using 97 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: charity donations as a marketing ploy to make more sales. 98 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: So what's gone on? I feel like I can already 99 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: hear a lot of people saying who is Caitlyn Rodriguez? 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: Because she is a micro influencer. She is bestie of 101 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: YouTube and Madison Woolly and she also hosts a podcast 102 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: alongside her and basically a number of months ago she 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: started a business called Wasteless. So the philosophy behind the 104 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: business is that it recycles influences new and pre loved clothing. 105 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: So basically, when an influencer gets gifted some clothes or 106 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: they get paid to promote clothes, they can then on 107 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: sell the clothes to her and basically spin more of 108 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: a profit, just making more money more bank off free products. Yeah, 109 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: and when you say recycle, you really mean resell. And 110 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: apparently Caitlin takes all the hard work away. She photographs 111 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: the clothes and uploads it and that's basically it isn't it. Yeah, 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: that's right. So she markets the clothing to sell on 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: to other people. So basically what has happened this week 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: is that Wasteless has teamed up with the Bondi Bizarre 115 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Markets in Sydney to create an Influencer market Day. So 116 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: it's been advertised as a charity garage sale where influencers 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: will be in attendance to sell their clothing. So they're 118 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: kind of marketing it as this meat and greet, you know, 119 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: come and do a good thing, donate to charity by 120 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: buy clothes it being donated to charity. Yeah, and it 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: kind of feels like a bit of a comicn for 122 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: influencers because there hasn't been really any influence of meet 123 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: and greets with the pandemic on. So it is really 124 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: a first chance for you to come and meet some 125 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: of your idols, I suppose. Yeah. Well, the big drawer 126 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: card is Sammy Robinson, as well as Yas Tanchi. I 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: don't actually know who is sister sister, Okay, all right. 128 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: There's also Natalie Rosa, who I'm probably pronouncing wrong because 129 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: I have no idea who she is either, and Isabelle Clark. 130 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: A notable absence is her best friend Madison Woolley, who 131 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm really surprised isn't going to be at this meet 132 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: and greet. It is interesting Madison won't be there because 133 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the clothes probably originally 134 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: were hers. Now is it true that there's a ten 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: dollar entry feet just to get in for your chance 136 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: to purchase some of these clothing? Yeah? Well, it is 137 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: very odd because I've taken a look back at the 138 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: other events held at the Bondi Bazare and there has 139 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: been no entry fee, but for this event it costs 140 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: ten dollars. Could this be because it is being touted 141 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: as a charity event, Like, is some of that money 142 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: going to the charity? Well, while it is being touted 143 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: as a charity event, nowhere on the marketing collateral does 144 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: it actually say which charity is being supported. So if 145 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: you take a look at the event poster, Instagram post, 146 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: and even wasteless as website, it doesn't specify which charity 147 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: is So I had to really dig to find out 148 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: which charity may actually be receiving the money. So on 149 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: Wasteless's website, it has a tab called charity and it 150 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: outlines that the charity that wasteless supports is Plan International Australia. 151 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: But what is confusing is it supports this charity through 152 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: every purchase made, not purchases made at this marketplace. So 153 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: it outlines that wasteless gives a minimum of ten percent 154 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: from every item sale to this charity. It also specifies 155 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: that the influencer has the opportunity to increase their their 156 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: percentage of money that is donated. Wasteless has actually been 157 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: around for a couple of months now, so have there 158 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: been any posts promoting the fact that you know, this 159 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: influencer has actually donated sixty percent to the charity, anything 160 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, well that's a very good point, Gay. 161 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: I have seen nothing, so I would be very interested 162 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: to see how it is communication with the customer, how 163 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: much of a percentage is donated to the charity. Yeah, 164 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: exactly right. You would think that a brand based on 165 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: charity would actually promote how much they've raised, you know, 166 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: every month to support that charity. I mean, it's very ambiguous, 167 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: and it is quite clear that this is a small 168 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: business that's being run, but when you are dealing with 169 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: charities you have to be so specific. And just to 170 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: put this into perspective, this ten percent deal is on 171 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: all transactions with wasteless, so, as I specified, it's not 172 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: just for the event. So I don't quite understand why 173 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: they're touting this as a charity event. It's just what 174 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,119 Speaker 1: they do every day, and especially when they're not being specific, 175 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: you would assume that if you're paying ten dollars to 176 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: get in that that money would be going to a charity, 177 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: and it clearly is not. And a lot of people 178 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: are asking questions on Wasteless's Instagram account about where the 179 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: money is actually going to One person wrote what charity 180 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: is benefiting from this event exactly? That was two days 181 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: ago and it's yet to receive a response. And another 182 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: person asked what percentage of sales will be going to charity? 183 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: And does any of the ticket price go to charity? 184 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: And that was also left unanswered. It's kind of hard 185 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: to believe that someone running an influencer based business isn't 186 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: on their phone checking these sorts of information, so it's 187 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: quite clear that they were avoiding commenting on it. It 188 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: did make me think, though, the fact that they are 189 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: advertising that influencers are going to be at the event. 190 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that some of them charged a fee 191 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: to attend and that's why there is an entry price. 192 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that any of them charged a fee 193 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: to attend, because I think that they're all friends and 194 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: they all want to offload these clothes. And what also 195 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: makes me feel super uncomfortable is the fact that these 196 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: influencers are somewhat being applauded for giving their time to 197 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: support a charity. Yet wouldn't they be supporting a charity 198 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: more if they just simply went and drop their clothes 199 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: off at their local Vini's and just gave the clothes 200 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: for free. Well like Beck Judd did with their pajamas. Yeah. Well, 201 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's quite funny because Beck Judd 202 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: has caused a big storm because she has been found 203 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: out to donate clothes that she got for free. But yeah, 204 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: but to be fair, she's not been called out for 205 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: donating clothes for free. It was the timing around the clothes. 206 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: So for those who haven't seen the story, she was 207 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: supporting one of her friends who law watched a pajama 208 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: wear line and you guys would know the influencer. It 209 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: was from Yummy Mum, La Rinska from Yummy Mum. Yeah. 210 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: So basically she's brought out a rather questionable pair of 211 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: pajamas and oh they're hideous. Yeah, they're pretty hideous pajamas, 212 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: and Beck Judd has done a post basically saying, hey, 213 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: you know, go out and check them out. Well, the 214 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: funny thing is she's wearing matching pajamas with her daughter Billy, 215 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: so it's quite a cute little post. But yeah, the 216 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: next day, so basically someone has spotted these pajamas at 217 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: the local charity shop right near where beck Judd lives. 218 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: And because they have only just launched the pajama line. 219 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: Really only her and a handful of other people would 220 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: have had them. Yeah, and the pop shops in Beck's area. 221 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: And it's quite funny because the person took a photo 222 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: and sent it to celev spell check, so it's just 223 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: gone nuts. But they actually found a pair of Jagged tights, 224 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: which is the brand that Beck owns, So it kind 225 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: of seems like she was offloading a lot of her 226 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: stuff that day. Can I just say, though, the reason 227 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: people had an issue with this is, as I said before, 228 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: the timing, because she's there supposed to be supporting a friend, 229 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: and then the next second is just the clothes at 230 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: an option. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. 231 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: I think that they obviously get sent a lot of stuff, 232 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: well better than her going to some market and selling it. 233 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: But but could you not just hold off from it 234 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: because the discovery of these clothes, which yes, was very random, 235 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: has now overshadowed her friend's law. Do you think that 236 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: she would have ever imagined that someone would go down 237 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: to the charity shop and make the connection. I think 238 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: it's so rare that that was to happen. Well, I 239 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: do get what Zovie is saying, because it seems very 240 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: disingenuine to post promoting someone's brand and then to like 241 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: ship the stuff off to the op shot. However, do 242 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: you think it might be a little bit rude of 243 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: say Larnska to expect her friend to post for free 244 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: about her clothing. Well, I'll be sure it was for free. Well, 245 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: I would assume it was for free. We you'd hope so, 246 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: because if she's been paid for it and then she's 247 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: put them, you know, dumped them off at Vinnie's and 248 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: then sort of overshadowed the whole brands announcement, and then 249 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. But that's what I find so ridiculous 250 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: about this influencer apparent charity event at the Bizarre Markets, 251 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: because a lot of these influencers, they have been paid 252 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: to promote these clothes that they're now just handballing off 253 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: and then claiming, oh, we're doing the charitable thing because 254 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: all of these clothes go to landfill, the clothes that 255 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: you've been paid to promote. Well, we did actually go 256 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: into all of those details on a previous podcast, which 257 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: will put in the show notes. The thing is, legally, 258 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: she doesn't appear to be doing anything wrong from what 259 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: I've looked at, But I do think there should be 260 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: rules in place on the use of people calling something 261 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: a charity event if less than half of the proceeds 262 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: are going to charity. And I also feel the way 263 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: it's advertised is completely misleading and it really does need 264 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: to be more specific. Yeah, it is kind of really 265 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: murky in terms of whether this event could be potentially 266 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: breaking the law because according to the Australian Consumer Law, 267 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: it states if you are a charity, non for profit 268 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: or fundraiser like this event is, with activities in trade 269 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: or commerce, then you are required by law not to 270 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: mislead or deceive in relation to those activities. And one 271 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: could argue that the poster promoting the event is quite 272 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: deceiving because it does label as a charity event when 273 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: in fact it's not. Well, I think it's misleading in 274 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: the fact that they give such a small amount of 275 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: details is that you can kind of put your own 276 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: spin on it. Well, also think the fact that it's 277 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: not a new charitable offering. They offered this ten percent 278 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: all times. It's not just for the event, so people 279 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: going to the event aren't getting anything extra. It will 280 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: be interesting to see once the event is held and 281 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: the money is made, because I feel like at that 282 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: point that's when people can get in trouble. We saw 283 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: it with Oscar Wiley recently, who are a glasses brand, 284 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: and they were actually sued for millions of dollars because 285 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: they said that they were giving a pair of glasses 286 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: to charity every time someone purchased a pair of glasses, 287 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: and people went back through their records and that didn't happen. 288 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: I think what's obvious is that using a charity or 289 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: a cause it seems very trendy at the moment because 290 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: you can get really positive benefits for your company for 291 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: doing it, so you look really WHOA Yeah. It basically 292 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: can increase sales and boost your brand equity because the 293 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: consumer looks and says, wow, I agree with the brand, 294 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: I agree with that charity that they're aligning themselves with. However, 295 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: depending on how they're marketing it, I think it can 296 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: also be seen as an attempt to exploit the cause 297 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: for gain, which in this case I think is what 298 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: has happened. And in this case, I also think consumers 299 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: are going to turn away from that business because they 300 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: are outraged by how misleading it all is. Yeah, and 301 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: that's the key word. It is misleading. If I was 302 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: a young sixteen year old and I saw that event 303 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: poster and it said charity event or ten dollars, I 304 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: would assume that my money was going to charity, and 305 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: it's completely misleading. On a completely different track, it's really 306 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: interesting because the guy who runs these markets is actually 307 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: Caitlin Rodriguez's ex boyfriend, which just adds a whole nother 308 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: layel to this. And it doesn't seem like that ended 309 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: that well reading between the lines on their podcast. So 310 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if this is something that was locked in 311 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: a while ago, and maybe that's why Madison's not there. 312 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a protest. I do actually hope that there 313 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: is someone behind the business other than Caitlin, because it 314 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: does seem that I don't actually think she needs she 315 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: means any malice this. I think that maybe she thinks 316 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: she is doing the right thing and donating money to charity. However, 317 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: she could find herself getting in a lot of trouble 318 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: for being quite naive and thinking that she is able 319 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: to label this event as a charity event when it's 320 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: clearly not one hundred percent of charity. Event. But this 321 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: is where people have to be so careful. I don't 322 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: think just anyone can start off a business. There's legalities 323 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: in place that you have to abide by. And it 324 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: was really interesting because on Georgie Stevenson's Rise and Conquered podcasts, 325 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: she interviewed Britney Saunders about her business and Brittany was 326 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: saying that she was really one of the first influencers 327 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: to start a business, and they love watching how other 328 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: influencers who are now popping up with their own business, 329 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: how they're actually tackling it, because I don't know, some 330 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: of them just don't seem just some of them just 331 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: seem to think it's easy and you can just throw 332 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: an idea out there and it'll be automatically success. That's 333 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: also the scary thing, because you can start something like 334 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: that and you could get sued for a lot of 335 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: money and go into bankruptcy over a small era like that. 336 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: I do wonder what the legalities are around the influences 337 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: who are passing on their clothes to Caitlin, because we 338 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: saw with the Fire Festival that Kendall Jenner was actually 339 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: held accountable for promoting the event, so it would be 340 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: interesting to know whether if this event was seen to 341 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: be doing the wrong thing, whether that would fall on 342 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: the influencers who are attending and selling their clothes. I 343 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: would also like to know if Caitlyn has spoken to 344 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: the team at Plan International Australia, because their name is 345 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, as we've said, it hasn't really appeared on 346 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: the posters, but it is somewhat in conjunction with her, 347 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: so I do wonder how they feel about the event. 348 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: It is all very bizarre to me because I've actually 349 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: been involved in organizing a charity event for the thirty sixers. 350 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: So the club part that with Beyond Blue to put 351 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: a game together, and we had fundraisers at the event. 352 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: I met with the organization's marketing team. We were very 353 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: much together and on the same page about how the 354 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: event would run and optimizing opportunities for fundraising to be made, 355 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: and of course saying that we were putting on a 356 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Beyond Blue game was a big part of actually getting 357 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: people to that game because it was supporting a good call. 358 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: So I do find it very strange that they do 359 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: not want to actually put Plown Australia's name on the 360 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: event at all. It's very strange, particularly when the drawer 361 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: card is that some of Australia's largest influencers are going 362 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: to be there, so there is an opportunity to expand 363 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: and grow a very worthy charity. Further by the influencers 364 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: then tagging the charity in their posts. How amazing would 365 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: it be if the ticket sales we're going towards that 366 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: charity and then ten percent. I mean, that would be 367 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: an amazing cause. And hopefully that's actually what's happening. But 368 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: this brand is not being transparent about what is actually 369 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: going on. Well, it's pretty clear that that's not what's happening. 370 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: A yeah, because if it was happening, they would be 371 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: the first to want to promote that. We'd love to 372 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts about this. Please head to our Facebook community, 373 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: which has outspoken the podcast community and let us know 374 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: what you guys think. Micah, I'm quitting. I just helped 375 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: an eighty one year old woman put on a thong 376 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: and she didn't even buy it. I'm telling you, I'm quitting. 377 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: That's it. I'm talking to my boss right now. Yes 378 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: I am, Yes, I'm say I'm to say. I'm just 379 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: say im okay bye, call me when you get this message, 380 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: let's get into the influence so rap and it's been 381 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: a big couple of days in the influencer world. A 382 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: lot of us are mourning the loss of Celeb's spellcheck. 383 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: So on Friday, celebs Spellcheck decided to archive all of 384 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: her posts. Yeah, a lot of people thought that maybe 385 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: the page had been removed by Instagram, but then at 386 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: a closer look, you could see that the follow account 387 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: was still there and the page was still able to 388 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: receive messages, So it is clear that she has gone 389 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: and archive the messages. When I initially saw this, my 390 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: first thought was she must be being sued. Oh, I 391 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: thought so too, considering the fact that every post was 392 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: taken down. Because if you are sued over a post, 393 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, the first call to action 394 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: is to remove the offending material, and it seems like 395 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: that could be what has happened in this instance. Well, 396 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: I feel like this is something that has been brewing 397 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: for a little while now because if you listen to 398 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: Shameless as recent segments on celeb Spellcheck, they spoke about 399 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: the fact that a number of high profile Melbourne people 400 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: and influencers are not happy with the page and could 401 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: potentially be pursuing legal their legal options. I actually expected 402 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Celeb Spellcheck to kind of retreat and stop posting so much. However, 403 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: she did the exact opposite and started to stoke the 404 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: fires and began that whole story time influencer thing that 405 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: created a lot more controversy and interest in her page. Well, 406 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: not only was she posting about all the influencer stories, 407 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: there was also the recent post of what appeared to 408 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: be Lorena from The Bachelor allegedly snorting something. Yeah, it 409 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: seemed to be a white substance. So people can draw 410 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: their own conclusions. Yeah, I did see that. One was 411 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: pretty shocked that it was kept up. I saw that, 412 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, this is next level. 413 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: But this is what happens when people film stuff at parties. 414 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: You're going to get stuff like that in the background. 415 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: I do want to note that we actually have been 416 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: in touch with Celeb spellcheck and she told us to 417 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: let everyone know that she's doing okay, that she's fine, 418 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: So she didn't really go into the details. So we 419 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: just really hope that her page is back up and 420 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: running soon. The whole thing is if she has been 421 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: sent some form of legal letter you are not allowed 422 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: to speak about that letter because you are binded by 423 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: a confidentiality clause. Yeah, so she may in fact have 424 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: been sent a legal letter and she can't say anything. 425 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: The other possibility is that maybe she's over it all. 426 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: You know. Well, it just it absolutely pisces me off 427 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: though that if she has been sent a legal letter 428 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: by a bunch of influencers. It kind of just reminds 429 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: me of all the media companies that try and silence 430 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: women over different issues. It's just it's a power struggle, 431 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: absolute power struggle, and they're trying to stifle voices from 432 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: speaking out about some of the silly things they do 433 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: and holding them to account. Do you know what. It 434 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: just reminded me because diet Priorta is being sued by 435 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: I believe Gucci. Yeah, and Shameless actually spoke about that 436 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: as a topic and they did bring celeb spell check up. 437 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: So I do wonder if Shameless knew that this is coming, Like, 438 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: if there is a legal case brewing, it's definitely someone 439 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: from Melbourne who sent this, because I almost feel because 440 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: the person who runs slav spell check they appear to 441 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: be from Melbourne. Yeah, well they've said, and I feel 442 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: like it's quite personal. Now I do feel like it's personal, 443 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: and they've probably received a legal letter and they've probably 444 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: been like, this is not worth my while. Why am 445 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: I doing this. I'm not getting paid anything. It's just 446 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: and legal letters are very scary when you haven't received 447 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: them before. Like your first reaction is I've got to 448 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: do everything that this lawyer tells me to do because 449 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: I just don't want the hussle. The whole thing is, 450 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: you actually don't even have to reply tollegal letters, although 451 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: if you feel like you need to, it is good 452 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: to go and check in with a lawyer. But at 453 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: the end of the day, a lot of it is 454 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: just there to threaten you. Why it is future Sophie 455 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: here now. Since recording the podcast Celebspellcheck has put out 456 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: this statement. She said, Hi everyone, thank you so much 457 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: for all of your lovely messages. I wanted to let 458 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: you know that I'm completely fine. I am not being 459 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: sued in brackets that I know of laugh out loud, 460 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: and I am not at risk of having my identity revealed. 461 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: I will be taking a little break while I think 462 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: about the future of this account. Moderating the comments has 463 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: become quite time continued me in brackets, but very necessary, 464 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: as is dealing with all of the other things that 465 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: come with having a large audience. There's a lot to 466 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: consider in terms of whether or not to reveal my identity, 467 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: whether to monetize the account, whether to dabble in gossip, 468 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: what kind of content is and is inacceptable with an 469 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: audience of this size, etc. I will be back soon 470 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: to clarify. Nothing has happened to bring this on. This 471 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: is just something I have been thinking about for a while. 472 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: Have a lovely weekend everyone. Since putting out this statement, 473 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: there have been a couple of influencers who have used 474 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: it as an opportunity to take Selev's spell check out 475 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: of content and basically take a swipe at her. So 476 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: The Bachelor's Kira at Maguire screenshotted the statement and said, 477 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: when an account that chooses to demoralize influences declares that 478 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: he or she wants to be one, and I just 479 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: think this is completely unfair. Simply because she said she's 480 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: looking into monetizing the account, it does not mean that 481 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: she is becoming an influencer. She has clearly put a 482 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: lot of time and energy into growing this account and 483 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: her care community, and she's also been putting a lot 484 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: on the line. Yes, we don't know who she is yet, 485 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: but there are obviously rumors out there that she is 486 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: about to be outed. So why shouldn't she receive any 487 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: money when she has cultivated this large audience of her own. 488 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I hardly think that we're going to be 489 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: seeing her flogging hallow fresh or teeth whitening products. I mean, 490 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: I feel like perhaps she could look at setting up 491 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: a Patreon where people who enjoy her page could donate money, 492 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: or perhaps there could be little ad breaks in between 493 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: Insta stories that don't include obviously her face or her 494 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: trying to promote some product. I think there are definitely 495 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 1: ways around it. I'd really be interested to see what 496 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: you guys think. Would you pay money to support celebs spellcheck. 497 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: Sophie Keasha, who has been held accountable by celeb Spellcheck 498 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: a number of times for breaking melbourne strict lockdown restrictions, 499 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: has also hit out at Celeb's spellcheck. She reshared Kiera 500 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: McGuire's Insta story and said, I've been sent this by 501 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: literally thousands of you. I'm with Kierra maguire Lowe. She 502 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: then said the only other comment I will make is 503 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: how to disappointing it is to see how many high 504 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: profile individuals slash accountants, slash celebrities slash companies regularly comment 505 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: and engage and after this week, promote a page that 506 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: aims to humiliate and embarrass individuals publicly, when these people 507 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: are the ones feeling our feeds preaching kindness, equality, acceptance, 508 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: be better, etc. Etc. Don't get me wrong. Years ago 509 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: I loved the page. It was genuinely so funny. I 510 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: think she is very witty and intelligent. Spelling errors or 511 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: misuse of words definitely can create a laugh. Without a doubt, 512 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: I've written something wrong here be at times I have 513 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: been posted it on there with completely in capitals factually 514 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: incorrect information accusations, especially at a time I was diagnosed, 515 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: medicated and at a risk to myself, and I know 516 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: others have too. Lucky for me, it has never once 517 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: impacted my work, but I can imagine for others it has. 518 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: But what it has done is har my mental health. 519 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: And I just don't know how anyone thinks a page 520 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: that does that too, A fellow human is Okay, It's horrible. 521 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: It has the ability to create a bullying culture, and 522 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: that's it's just not okay for me, shame it is 523 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: for so many high profile accounts who should be sending 524 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: a much better message to their audience. I know you'll 525 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: read this. Please reconsider your approach and use your talents 526 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: for something greater. I think we all have a chance 527 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: to evolve and be better. While I do really feel 528 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: for Sophie because she has clearly been going through some 529 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: mental health issues, I do think it's quite interesting that 530 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: she never had a problem with Celeb's Spellcheck until they 531 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: started calling her out for flatting the lockdown laws. I mean, 532 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: in Melbourne, the would have been so many people struggling 533 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: with not seeing their own families. And I do think 534 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: that celeb Spellcheck did a very good job of holding 535 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: her to account because personally, if I was in that 536 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: situation and saw Sophie breaking the rules, it would make 537 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: me ten times angrier and ten times fed up with 538 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: the situation. It is also interesting to note the passive, 539 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: aggressive little digs at a few of her ex friends 540 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: who were following the account, including Abby Gilmore and Annie Nolan. 541 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: I just think she's on her high horse about this, 542 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: and I think that their taking this on opportunity to 543 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: create a new narrative about Celeb's spelcheck as though Lebs 544 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: spell check is purely interested in money and becoming an 545 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: influencer herself, when I just think that is totally untrue. 546 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: As I said earlier, we would love to hear your 547 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: thoughts about this topic and whether you would support celebs 548 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: spell check if she did look to monetize the page. Also, 549 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: how do you feel about her potentially outing herself? Would 550 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: you be interested in following her if we did know 551 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: who she was. You can always buy any dress, but 552 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: you can't buy any life. It has been a big 553 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: weekend for anonymous Instagram accounts because Salty's Day has come 554 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: out of the woodwork. So a couple of weeks ago, 555 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: her page just disappeared out of nowhere. And for those 556 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: who don't know who Salty's Day is, it is a 557 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: hate page that has been set up to kind of 558 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: call Sarah's Day out. So on Friday, the Salty's Day 559 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: account posted I'm back to confirm this account was not 560 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: removed by Insta or taken down. Looking for someone who 561 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: wants to take this account on, So if you're interested, 562 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: drop an emoji here and I'll hit you up with 563 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: the login as I'm done. Jeez, that to me is 564 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: very irresponsible. I mean, I'm not surprised coming from a 565 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: hate page, but oh, here any other person that hates 566 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: so please take the page on it me. We've seen 567 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: that this. You can't just have anyone running these type 568 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: of accounts. I have heard on the grapevine that apparently 569 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: the reason that the page was deleted is because someone 570 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: found out who Salty's Day's boyfriend is and hate contacted 571 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: him and just said, look, I just wanted to make 572 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: you aware of what your girlfriend is doing. And then 573 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: suddenly the page was taken down. Now is that a 574 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: dumpable offense? Because I can imagine if I was running 575 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: a hate page on an influence so Reese would be like, 576 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? I told Brandon about this, 577 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh my god, I would be so 578 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: disgusted in you if you did anything like that. What 579 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: does that mean? Where it says something like imagine seeing 580 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: your crush writing mean comments on a celebrities pag? Is 581 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: it just me though? Or I feel like it'd be 582 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: so difficult to explain to your boyfriend what that was 583 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: all about because looks so Petty would be so bad 584 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: as this chicken what I have? Or is this fish? 585 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: I know it's tuna, but it says chicken by the Steve. 586 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: We'll moving on to another controversial story and Jim Shark 587 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: athlete Morgan Maroney has been granted an exemption to leave 588 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: Australia to meet up with her American boyfriend Steve Cook. 589 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: Now we discussed this, I think a couple of months 590 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: ago on the podcast about how Morgan had flown over 591 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: to America and then had to be sent back. So 592 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: what's the latest. Yeah, So basically, back in November she 593 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: tried to visit Steve in Utah and was detained and 594 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: then sent back. And that was despite the fact that 595 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: she had reached out to an immigration lawyer to talk 596 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: about what the right sort of visa was for her 597 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: to get over in America. So there was a lot 598 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: of confusion over it. And I have been following their 599 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: story for a while now. I am quite an avid 600 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: viewer of both of their YouTube channels, and at first 601 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: I was really excited because she posted a story saying 602 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: that finally they are going to be reunited. So on 603 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: her Instagram page she said that she would be meeting 604 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: up with Steve in Dubai in two and a half 605 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: week's time. So how long have they been apart for now? 606 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Because I've got to admit I don't follow them on 607 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Instagram or YouTube, so they have been apart for well 608 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: over six months now. And Steve also took to social 609 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: media to say he felt very grateful, and he explained 610 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: that he can't actually travel to Australia due to the pandemic, 611 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: but we'll be spending the next three to four months 612 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: traveling abroad. This is where my mixed emotions kind of 613 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: started happening, because although they have explained that it was 614 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: a very long process and they have been granted a 615 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: travel waiver, I kind of felt for those people who 616 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: don't have the money or the reasons to get these 617 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: sort of waivers. I mean, they are working on a 618 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: project at the moment together, so I assume that they 619 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: are using this work commitment as an excuse to go 620 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: and travel abroad. Yeah. Well, we've seen a lot of 621 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: influences in the UK using Dubai as kind of a 622 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: platform for them to travel around and vlog and take 623 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: exotic photos, so I'm guessing the same thing goes for 624 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: these two. Yeah. Well, Morgan put up an Instagram's story 625 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: explaining in more detail. She said the Australian government went 626 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: through her application and work contracts to see whether she 627 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: met the requirements to leave. She said she's not allowed 628 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: to enter the US until her separate US partnership visa 629 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: is accepted, which doesn't look like it will happen until 630 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: the end of next year. So once that is a proved, 631 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: she is going to be moving to the US for 632 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: the short term. But as I said, she did reiterate 633 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: she is going to be traveling to Dubai at the 634 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: start of April and they have a number of work 635 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: meetings and other projects that they are going to be 636 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: working on. But she did also highlight the fact that 637 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: obviously the main reason is so that they can see 638 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: each other. Look to be honest, if I had been 639 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: away from my partner to six to eight months, I 640 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: would probably be inventing something, you know, that I needed 641 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: to see them completely. I just think the thing that 642 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: didn't sit well with me was Steve saying that they 643 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: will be traveling for the next three to four months, 644 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: because I don't know. To me, it just at the moment, 645 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: traveling just seems so off limits for everyone else, and 646 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: it's a real luxury. Yeah, and I'm just so interested 647 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: to see where they actually can travel to apart from Dubai. 648 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: I feel like their post about them being reunited will 649 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: be praised and then everything that follows is going to 650 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: go downhill and turn into some negativity. Yeah. It's funny 651 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: because on the other scale of things, I am really 652 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing some sort of travel content. Yeah, 653 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of like you're living out what you want 654 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: to be doing. If I was in the UK, I 655 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be seeing that, no though, you through 656 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: my shandwich a word, my shandwich sh and moving on 657 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: and Shanni Grimman has featured her new boyfriend Jacob Tompkins 658 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: for the first time in hevlog. I was so interested 659 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: to see how he would come across in this blog 660 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: because I've got to admit I've been getting the ick 661 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: over him in Chinese Instagram story. Yeah. The first time 662 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: I saw him, I was like, Wow, he's ultra good looking. Yeah, 663 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: but as we've seen more of his personality evolve on Instagram, Yeah, 664 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: I've been getting the eke myself as well, Like, I 665 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: don't know, he's I know He's twenty years old, so 666 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: he's a lot younger than me, but he just seems 667 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: so immature in juvenile. It's funny because after watching this YouTube, 668 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: the ick grew for me, and I feel like he 669 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: was trying to be really loud and weird and show off, 670 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: and I didn't like it because I feel like with Shanni, 671 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: her boyfriends usually play that supporting role, so it's kind 672 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: of more of a platform for her to show off 673 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: her kooky, weird side, whereas I feel like they were 674 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: almost competing for attention. It's weird too when you do 675 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: look at her dating history. She went out with Jonathan, 676 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: who was considerably older than her, and then Tommy was 677 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: also older than her, so it is strange that now 678 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: she has gotten older herself, she is opting for someone 679 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: who is considerably younger than her. Yeah, well, not considerably, 680 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: it's only a couple of years, but I feel like 681 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: their important years has been interesting because Shanne's been posting 682 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: a lot of photos of her and Jacob together on 683 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: her Unfiltered page, and I feel like their personalities and 684 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: their relationship comes across a little bit more on that, 685 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: and she gave an insight into the first night she 686 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: met him, So apparently she was the one that approached 687 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: him when she was out and he was djaying, and 688 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: she basically went up and said, I'm Shannie. And I 689 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: found that this was quite a bit moment for her 690 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: because she's spoken a lot about having social anxiety and 691 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: being shy, so she must have really liked what she saw. Yeah, 692 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: she said she didn't give a fuck going up to him, 693 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: and said she was obsessed with him from the beginning. 694 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: So I do wonder if she's more in love with 695 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: his appearance and his personality. Oh that's a bit harsh. Well, 696 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: I wonder if he knew who she was, because there's 697 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: not many people out there called Shanni like I wonder 698 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: if she was pulling like the big ball a game 699 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: like I'm Shanni Grimmin. Well, she was filming herself in 700 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: front of his set and kind of zooming up on 701 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: herself and zooming up on him, So she must have 702 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: felt pretty confident to do that, because I don't know 703 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: if your Joe blow on the street doing that, I 704 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: don't think a guy would respond well to that. Yeah, 705 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: I know. Well, I'm sure she had a bit of 706 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: Dutch courage at her. Another thing that was quite funny 707 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: that came out of the vlog was a unfiltered moment 708 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: that she probably should have deleted. So her friend came 709 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: over and found a condom wrapper on their couch. On 710 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: the couch, yeah, so, I don't know. I feel like 711 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: that's the funniest thing when I watch these vlogs and 712 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: you see the influencer, like in the car the camera 713 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: drops off the dashboard. I mean, it's disgusting that they're 714 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: driving with their camera, but you know, these moments that 715 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: could very easily be edited out. I feel like that 716 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: would be one of them. I feel like that was 717 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: a miscommunication. I don't know what what do you mean miscommunication? 718 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: You said what you said, Yes you did? You know 719 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: you said, and now what you're saying you didn't. They 720 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: asked you a question. Maybe I should have been a gentleman. 721 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: I was just repeating the question. You were dragging me over, 722 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: and I just yeah, because you're a follower, Tom, can 723 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: you not have your own opinion? We shot said that 724 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: about me? Okay, I didn't say it, Yes you did. 725 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: I think we should finish off with Sky Wheatley's baby shower. 726 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: This was held on a Wednesday night, which was a 727 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: very peculiar time. I feel like if I had been 728 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: invited to an event on a Wednesday, I would definitely 729 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: flake out of it, like I'd come up with an 730 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: excuse not to go. What was unusual about this event 731 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: as well, is that you know, usually at a baby 732 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: shower you have pink or blue balloons, depending on the gender, 733 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: but she had mint green balloons. Yeah. I actually liked 734 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: the balloons. I was wondering if it was something to 735 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: do with forest and the colored green, like I wonder 736 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: if there's her new baby boy's name is going to 737 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: match his? But of course Wednesday was also Saint Patrick's Day, 738 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: so that was that something to do with it. I 739 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: feel like it could have been paying homage. Maybe his 740 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: name's Patrick. Maybe that's a good tip. I don't know. 741 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel that name's unusual enough for that. Yeah, 742 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a bit too mainstream, Patty Patty maybe. Well. 743 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: What was a bit over the top was one of 744 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: the presents the Sky Wheatley got gifted at the baby show. 745 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: Now we've spoken about baby showers before, and usually you 746 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: give an item for the child, so some sort of 747 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: toy or clothing. Yeah, so Sky Wheatley was given a 748 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: Gucci bucket hat for herself, off for herself, for herself 749 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: and on top, so she instagrammed the fact that it 750 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: was Gucci and on top of the Gucci box was 751 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: three one hundred dollar bills. What the hell? It was 752 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: just bizarre and it was I mean, the guest was, 753 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: of course, another influencer. It is a mummy blog called 754 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: Mimi who has over three hundred thousand followers. I don't 755 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: think she's short for cash. But do you think this 756 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: was like do you think it was like regifted, because 757 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 1: I mean the cash kind of screams out, oh shit, 758 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: I forgot to get sep gifted. Now. I don't think 759 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: it was regifted at all. That's bizarre, Like that's a 760 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: very strange present. I'd be really interested to hear what 761 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 1: other weird presents people have received at baby showers. Because 762 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't have a child myself, I've never had a 763 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: baby shower, but I was under the assumption you're supposed 764 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: to buy a gift for the child. Look, I could 765 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: see maybe something for the mom that was related to pregnancy, 766 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: like if it was a breast milk sorry, breast pump 767 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: or something like that. But yeah, Gucci hat. I just 768 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: find it funny when people think that the height of 769 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: fashion is just slapping some designer brand on something like 770 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: I would not be seen dead in this hat. Well, 771 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: I think that's all we have time for. Thank you 772 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: so much for joining us for today's episode. If you 773 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you subscribe 774 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 1: to our podcast and leave us a five star rating. 775 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: And I really hope that on Friday that you're here, Sophie, 776 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: because I hope you haven't gotten my terrible cold. Better 777 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: not have succumbed to this. Yeah, you'll be blaming Amy 778 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: again