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Speaker 1: Yelp, the Will and Woody podcast that fighte sized.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Way, if you haven't heard of the Melissa cadic case,

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Speaker 3: then get around this. I mean, Ash, I actually didn't

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Speaker 3: know about this until actually chatting to you about it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm a Sydney sider, and everybody was talking about

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Speaker 4: this in city for a full two weeks.

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Speaker 3: It is extraordinary stuff, and so extraordinary that it inspired

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Speaker 3: a podcast called Liar Liar. You can get that podcast

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Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts from. But the host of

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Speaker 3: that podcast joins us right now, Kate mcclimond. Hello, Kate,

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Speaker 3: that's so nice to speak to you.

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Speaker 2: Ray.

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Speaker 3: Now, we have so many questions Kate, but before we

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Speaker 3: crack in, we're going to get a little snippet of

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Speaker 3: your podcast, just beautifully summarizing this Melissa cdock case.

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Speaker 1: Melissa Caddick, a seemingly successful Sydney businesswoman, turned out to

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Speaker 1: be a sociopathic corn artist who stole more than twenty

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Speaker 1: three million dollars from clients, mainly family and friends, who

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Speaker 1: thought their funds were being invested in shares.

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Speaker 4: It is too unbelievable to even think this is real. Okay, now,

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Speaker 4: you're an investigative journalist. So you've seen a lot of

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Speaker 4: crazy stuff over the years. What was it about this

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Speaker 4: case that you just knew you had to dig deeper

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Speaker 4: and make into a podcast.

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Speaker 2: So what happens is that this woman disappears. You know,

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Speaker 2: she's stolen all the money. That is wacky enough in itself.

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Speaker 2: Suddenly her foot washes up on a remote beach four

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Speaker 2: hundred kilometers south from where she went missing. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: the fallout from the finding of the foot has just

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Speaker 2: led to all these crazy theories about did she chop

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Speaker 2: her own foot off, was it planted in the sea?

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Speaker 2: Is it really her foot? The I mean, that's just

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Speaker 2: completely separate to what she's done with all the money

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Speaker 2: and just the crazy things that she spent it on.

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Speaker 5: Ok Before, we need.

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Speaker 3: To talk about this foot stuff, because I just that's

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Speaker 3: the part which has really peauked my interest and the

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Speaker 3: part that.

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Speaker 5: Made everyone go crazy.

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Speaker 4: It was, yeah, there's a con artist, but you're when

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Speaker 4: the foot washed up on the shore, that's when everybody

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Speaker 4: had an opinion.

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Speaker 3: Because we haven't found any any other part, have we

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Speaker 3: The only piece of her body that has been found

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Speaker 3: is her foot. And I couldn't help but notice that

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Speaker 3: obviously ask were the people that were looking for her

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Speaker 3: Her foot was in an Assex shoe isn't That's that's

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Speaker 3: a signal, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: This is her plane with them?

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Speaker 2: Whether? And a third thing, when Melissa Kddick's husband, Anthony

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Speaker 2: Coletti recently appeared on Channel seven Spotlight program, he showed

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Speaker 2: them that he keeps Melissa's remained in a box inside

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Speaker 2: an Assex shoe board.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's just ok So from your studies that you've done,

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Speaker 3: in your research you've done, is there a part possibility

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Speaker 3: that she has hacked off her own foot to throw

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Speaker 3: people and she's she's I don't know where she is,

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Speaker 3: but she's somewhere on an island in some mansion living

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Speaker 3: it up.

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Speaker 2: I think, not, Okay? Why and well, I think because

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Speaker 2: this is another weird thing. It's because of the mysterious

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Speaker 2: Canadian case of the twenty one feet that washed up

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Speaker 2: over a ten year period just on the coast off

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Speaker 3: What sorry, Kate, hang on, so there are other feet

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Speaker 3: that have turned up on beaches. I need to hear

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Speaker 3: more of this, but we've got to go to a song.

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Speaker 3: Kate mcclemon, you run a podcast called Liahli. This Melissa

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Speaker 3: Caddock case. Now I'm hearing there's more feet rocking up

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Speaker 3: on beaches. We're going to find out more about it.

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Speaker 3: Right up next you listening to Will and Woodie.

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Speaker 5: We have a fascinating person on the phone. This is

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Speaker 5: totally wild stuff.

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Speaker 3: So if you haven't heard of the Melisic Caddock case,

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Speaker 3: then basically, this woman called Melissa Kadik was ripping off

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Speaker 3: all of her friends. She had twenty three million dollars

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Speaker 3: of her ends money. Finally asse get onto her and

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Speaker 3: then she disappears. All we find is her foot. We

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Speaker 3: know it's her foot which washes up on a beach. Okay,

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Speaker 3: just the seven foot And Kate mcclymond, you're telling us

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Speaker 3: that there's other feet that have rocked up on beaches before,

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Speaker 3: and that proves that maybe she hasn't faked this whole thing.

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Speaker 2: See exactly.

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Speaker 4: I love this.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So back in two thousand and six, a size ten

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Speaker 2: Nike washes up near Vancouver. The next day, another foot

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Speaker 2: in a running shoe washes up, but they're the same

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Speaker 2: right foot. Then, over a period of years, twenty one

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Speaker 2: disembodied feet, meaning just the foot inside the shoe washes up.

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Speaker 2: So they did a coronial investigation and they found that

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Speaker 2: with the advent of more running shoes that have got

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Speaker 2: foam and they've got air pockets in them, what happens

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Speaker 2: is that your bos disintegrates and the foot becomes detached

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Speaker 2: at the ankle. Now, normally feat bones, normally beat bones

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Speaker 2: are quite heavy. But when they're in a running shoe,

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Speaker 2: guess what, they bob to the surface and they float.

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Speaker 2: And so we've spoken to oceanographers who have demonstrated and look,

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Speaker 2: this is another weird factor. Only four days before Melissa

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Speaker 2: Caadic disappeared, oceanographers were doing experiments near Sydney where they

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Speaker 2: were throwing in objects the same size as a shoe

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Speaker 2: that were fitted with trackers. And guess what, they washed

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Speaker 2: up hundreds of kilometers south of where they were thrown in.

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Speaker 2: So I think that the smance indicates that there is

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Speaker 2: pretty good likelihood that the book did wash that fart about.

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Speaker 3: But Kate, hang on, Now, couldn't she have known that

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Speaker 3: there was a study going on and then and then

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Speaker 3: learn what.

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Speaker 5: Is she going to do?

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Speaker 4: Go to a hospital. Hi, my name is Rachel. My

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Speaker 4: foot fell off. Like we're gonna know if someone works

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Speaker 4: up at a hospital with a cleanly severed foot, which

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Speaker 4: I mean had my wrong case.

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Speaker 2: But I think you're right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's incredible.

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Speaker 4: Can we talk about some of the spending moments. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because I am a queen when it comes to living

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Speaker 4: beyond my means, but not I certainly could never, in

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Speaker 4: my wildest dream spend this kind of money.

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Speaker 5: In the space of just eighteen months.

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Speaker 4: Get this, She managed to spend two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars at Christian Door alone.

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Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, girl's got taste.

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Speaker 4: The second of all, I mean, what were some of

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Speaker 4: the other ridiculous things that this woman was purchasing, Because

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Speaker 4: if she's spending quarter of a million dollars deal, I

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Speaker 4: mean she's gone crazy other places too.

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Speaker 2: Oh you name them, you know Louis the Tom Jewelry.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think one of the most outrageous things

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Speaker 2: point one million dollars to lower the mortgage on the

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Speaker 2: apartment she said she bought for them. And she spent

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Speaker 2: five hundred and ninety thousand of that money on a

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Speaker 2: single diamond ring and the rest she blew on private

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Speaker 4: Resell the private jets like there's no equity in them.

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Speaker 2: She was spending half a million dollars year in and

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Speaker 2: year out on holidays. You know, we're talking Aspen, we're

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Speaker 2: talking private islands in Fiji. There was just and you know,

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Speaker 2: as you said in your introduction, the most horrific thing

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Speaker 2: was this was her friend's money. Her first victim was

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Speaker 2: her oldest friend from she'd known since preschool. And this

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Speaker 2: woman was a single mother, a nurse, who was working

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Speaker 2: night hifts to keep her family afloat. And Melissa was stealing, like,

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Speaker 2: not just her money, she stole ten million dollars from

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Speaker 2: her extended her friend's extended family.

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Speaker 3: Genuine sociopath. But these people who have given her money,

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Speaker 3: are they getting their money back or is it you know,

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Speaker 2: No, they're hoping to get some money back. Okay, if

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Speaker 2: they're really lucky, they might get back twenty cents in

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Speaker 2: the dollar.

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Speaker 3: Kate, thank you so much. If you want to hear

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Speaker 3: more about that, and I'm sure you do. Kate gets

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Speaker 3: right into the resisting.

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Speaker 5: Because the husband, for me is the best part.

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Speaker 4: Anthony. She married our bloody dj off, a cruise who

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Speaker 4: still maintains her innocence. That guy is a couple of

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Speaker 4: Bob's short of or whatever.

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Speaker 5: The saying is.

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Speaker 3: He is not all that, and he keeps their remains

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Speaker 3: in issue.

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Speaker 4: I hope there's a couple of episodes dedicated.

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Speaker 3: To him as I'm okay, if you want to hear

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Speaker 3: the podcast, liar is what it's called. Get it wherever

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Speaker 3: you get your podcast from. Absolutely fascinating stuff, Kate, Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Look, thanks so much for talking to me, lady may.

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Speaker 5: I wish I could stop doing the radio show right now.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just going to see my car and just

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Speaker 4: get into the podcast to be perfectly honest.

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Speaker 2: Well enjoys.

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