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Speaker 1: Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their.

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Speaker 2: Highs as well as their lows, all.

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Speaker 1: In a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Lola Berry to your very own fortieth birthday podcast

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Speaker 2: episode Thanks Boobye, titled forty Questions at forty? Can we

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Speaker 2: just paint the picture for everyone?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here in my Jimmy's on my fortieth birthday,

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Speaker 1: coffee in hand. Yeah, looking at the love of my life. Ah,

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Speaker 1: that's nice, hopless. Yeah, you got not much clothes on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you also turned forty, my dear friend, in two days.

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Speaker 2: Two days. Yes, and we have a very fun day

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Speaker 2: planned for you. Yes, we do.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to share or no? Ah, keep it

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Speaker 1: a surprise. Now we can share. We're getting tattoos.

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Speaker 2: I hope my dad doesn't hear that. He's going to

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Speaker 2: find out soon enough. All over the interwebs, How are you?

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Speaker 2: How do you feel this morning? So my motto is

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Speaker 2: what's my word.

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Speaker 1: Forty formidable, formidable and forty not thirty and flirty because

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Speaker 1: I got my love. Ah, yes, you came in from

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Speaker 1: my thirty first to thirty second birthday.

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Speaker 2: Did I? Yeah? Ah shit, So we've been together a

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Speaker 2: fair while. Yeah? Is it seven years this year? I

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Speaker 2: love that he pretends it does. It's killer. Is this

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Speaker 2: going to be eight years? I actually don't know, if

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Speaker 2: I'm honest. The other I think, Wow, I'm glad that

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Speaker 2: we got this one recording that you don't know. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we got to we've got to crack on because it

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Speaker 2: is your birthday. Yes, you are forty years old today.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to say what you're doing for me tonight?

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Speaker 2: We're going to Chateau my mom for a little martini,

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Speaker 2: for a little date. Yes, yes we are. If you

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Speaker 2: don't know what Chateau Mamon is, it's a famous hotel,

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Speaker 2: bar restaurant in Hollywood. In Yeah, it's on sunset, but

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Speaker 2: it's like super famous.

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Speaker 1: Like I've oh my god, I have been, boo you have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I went to a party there. What this whole time,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never been. I've never been.

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Speaker 2: I just had a flashback.

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Speaker 1: I went there for drinks like I had a party. Theyah,

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Speaker 1: like I went in, partied and left and went on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's like a super famous Hollywood hotel, like.

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Speaker 1: Like Leonardo DiCaprio had his twenty first birthday there, Like

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix have a room there, Johnny Mitchell, like all

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Speaker 1: these incredible people.

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Speaker 2: It's like where Lindsay Lohan went on her like month

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Speaker 2: on Drug Bender. It's like, you know, there's stories of

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Speaker 2: like you know, rock stars riding their motorbikes through the

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Speaker 2: that's right through the lobby. I think it was like

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Speaker 2: led Zeppelin or something that like rode their bikes through

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Speaker 2: So it's like super famous, but it's also super cool. Nice.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's start on these questions. Are you ready

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Speaker 2: for him? I do have forty questions, so we're going

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Speaker 2: to have to power through them. We can't really dilly dally.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me If a question I can't think

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Speaker 1: just should go onto the next yeah.

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Speaker 2: To save time. Yeah, and what if.

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Speaker 1: It's a really poignant question, I think you should answer

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Speaker 2: About to say, yeah, then you can throw it back

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Speaker 2: to me, but I'll answer it, you know, snappy, okay, snappy?

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go? You ready, Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: here we go. What is the most surprising thing you've

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Speaker 2: learned about yourself in the last forty years.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably more adaptable than I first realized I would be. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: you can usually put me into a situation. I'll be

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Speaker 1: able to oh freak, but I'll still be able to

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Yeah? I like that adaptable.

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Speaker 2: What are you? Yeah? I think that I'm probably more

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Speaker 2: fearless than I ever thought you are. Yeah, well, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Question two, if you could go back to your twenties,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we're being really honest, all my twenties

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Speaker 1: So my advice would be give less hoots about what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, understand, girl, that's good answer. What was your biggest

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's really lucky to admit this. My biggest

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Speaker 1: fear was putting on weight, That's truly. That was my

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Speaker 1: Do I fear it now? No, because I want to

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Speaker 1: feel vital for me and for you.

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Speaker 2: Happy and healthy. Yeah, we love that. What about you?

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Speaker 2: What was your fear when you were younger? Ah? Fuck, hell,

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Speaker 2: that's my biggest fear. I don't know, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: but I think it was definitely probably around like family

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Speaker 2: you can be further away. I could be further away. Thanks,

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Speaker 2: and yes, thanks to you. And how do I feel

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Speaker 1: We also like invest in making sure we get back

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So as much as my biggest fear was like

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Speaker 2: I like to live. You just knew that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, in my heart I was like, this is it.

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Speaker 1: Rebutt all question what part of Australia feels like home

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Speaker 2: give them the long answers. Sorry, I love it. I

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Speaker 2: love it. What's one of your proudest accomplishments from the

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Speaker 2: past four decades? Ah, Holy moly.

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Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a ambitious go get us, so

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Speaker 1: I would say I probably haven't achieved it yet, but

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Speaker 1: things that like highlights that I love that I've done,

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Speaker 1: Like I love that I've skydived. I mean, achievements like

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Speaker 1: really means a lot to me. It's still a labor

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Speaker 1: I would love this to be my like what I

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Speaker 1: this pod heaps like between ten and twenty right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: depending on how many guests we're interviewing, and so, like

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Speaker 1: I would love it to be one of the big

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Speaker 1: ways I make in as well. So i'd say the pod,

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Speaker 1: the books, and I'm like really on this sounds like

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Speaker 1: I've always been like a daddy's girl. I've got to

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Speaker 1: it's we're very We've got the same similarities, we've got

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Speaker 1: So that's taken work with therapy and really honest conversations

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Speaker 2: I'm me saying that, mum. But we're in a good spot. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: made me feel so old. Well it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I got forty truth, That's what I mean. Well,

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Speaker 1: I woke up this morning I was like, I think

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Speaker 2: So you wouldn't relive any No twenties, No thirties.

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Speaker 1: I love, but like twenties is hard, constantly learning, you're

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Speaker 1: So that was hard. Twenties thirties was great, like you

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Speaker 1: Thirties has also been hard. Every time we made money,

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Speaker 2: Like visas or the house.

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Speaker 1: Like every time we got a chunk of money, we

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Speaker 1: put it back into something, which I know is what

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Speaker 1: you're meant to do. But that became like financial stress

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Speaker 1: is something that I was very aware of in my thirties,

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Speaker 1: which I wasn't really super aware of in my twenties

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Speaker 1: because I was writing best selling books and making a

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Speaker 1: my thirties. I would say my career was actually harder

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Speaker 1: if people want to work with you, you're a value.

432
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: You're literally a financial value to people. So it's understanding

433
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: what that is and it's like realize realizing that people

434
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: will work with you because they think you're of value

435
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: to them, as opposed to My mistake was I would

436
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: make friends with everyone, gotcha. So that was a big

437
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: one for me. Also, when I owned this mini bar,

438
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: say mistake, I thought everyone was my friend.

439
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: What's a goal you're especially proud of achieving.

440
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: I think this year, like being on a being shooting

441
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: the pilot and being an actor on a working film

442
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: set was like a really nice like moment of like

443
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: actually acting as something I've been training nine years now,

444
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like actually living that Still

445
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: that dream still feels quite far away, if I'm honest,

446
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: because like I haven't been on a working acting set since.

447
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: But like that felt like a real like energy shift. Yeah,

448
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: does that makes sense? Love it? This is just a

449
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: general one. But how do you actually feel about turning forty?

450
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: Are you excited, nervous, something else?

451
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: No. I said to Matt last night, I said this

452
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: to your boss. I just want to be myself. Yeah,

453
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: like I want to like give zero. You're so good

454
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 1: at that, like not caring about I still get like

455
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: a bit of guilt if I say no to something,

456
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: a bit of peer pressure. If I'm out and someone's

457
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: having a veno and I don't really want one, whereas

458
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: you would be so comfortable going no, I'm not drinking

459
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: at the moment or now, I don't really feel like drinking.

460
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: I did it once the other day, which is when

461
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: my mate I hung up with my mate Pip just

462
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: like can we get a veno? And I was like yeah,

463
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm actually like I taught yoga back

464
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: to back that day in the heat, and I was like,

465
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm super de high do you care if I don't

466
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: get a veno because alcohol obviously dehydrates more. Can I

467
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 1: get a green juice? But like the rumination I still

468
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: did in the lead up fucked me for a little while.

469
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: So I just really want to care less about what

470
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: other people think of me and just run my own race.

471
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: So there's no point spending that much time overthinking and

472
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: wasting time. Which do you know I do? Yeah? I

473
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: mean I used to do it too.

474
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: I had to, like, well forty formidable and forty boot

475
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: not doing.

476
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: Anything formidable forty Yeah, I love that. Okay? And what

477
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 2: did I just ask you? What skill? Talent? Okay? What

478
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: skill or talent you've developed over the years that you're

479
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: proud of?

480
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very good at organizing things like off

481
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: the chain, good like I have an itinerary already for

482
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: our way.

483
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: I know. I love to research. What am I really

484
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: good at? Something you've developed over time? A skill? Ah? Oh?

485
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what it is? And I learned

486
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: it as being an Australian here in America. There was

487
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: another colleague who told me this, and I didn't know

488
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: that I could do this, But now that I've sat

489
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: in more serious business meetings, since I think I can

490
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: disarm people.

491
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's good. That's a good one, do you

492
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

493
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I don't know if it's this driving accent thing,

494
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: but I can be serious and crack a joke and

495
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: not care if it lands or not and sit in

496
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: that space and disarm. And my other skill that the

497
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: podcast has trained me in is to make people feel

498
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: comfortable very quickly, because the pot when you're doing a

499
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: filmed pod, people get really anxious and nervous because there's

500
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere, and I'll quickly kind of like drop into

501
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: their energy and just kind of like make them feel safe.

502
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: I would say I'm good at that too. Love that.

503
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: What's something you've always wanted to master but haven't had

504
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: the chance to yet? A couple of things.

505
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: I went through a bit of a phase of wanting

506
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: to learn Spanish. Don't know why, but I haven't done that.

507
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: I do not know this about you.

508
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: No, well, I think that that dream went before you,

509
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: and I remember met.

510
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're a linguist. I'm not. You might be

511
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: a cunning linguist.

512
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: That's very this is a family podcast, that's right. The

513
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: other thing, oh, you threw me off with that dirty joke,

514
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: just so you know.

515
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: Sorry.

516
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: The other thing I've always wanted to swim in sharks

517
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: obviously haven't done that yet.

518
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: No, something to master, like an instrument to language, doing

519
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: Russian dancing, I would.

520
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: I'd love to be better at lake film editing because

521
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: of now the pod being so visual.

522
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: I feel like that's achievable. Though. What has been your

523
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: biggest challenge so far and how did you overcome it?

524
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Eating disorder therapy? Okay, nice one, all right, what's your

525
00:28:52,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: proudest personal achievement outside of work or career. There's a

526
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: proud personal achievement. I'd say falling in love with you.

527
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: That's not an achievement though, Okay, well, probably what I said,

528
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: like building a really nice relationship with my parents through

529
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: like learning to Like I think in your thirties you

530
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: go through this phase of like thinking that any trauma

531
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: or stuff you've gone through when you're younger, you kind

532
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: of blame on them. It's some weird fucking thing we

533
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: do in our thirties. Do you know that? Do you

534
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: find that? And I think doing therapy has allowed me

535
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: to like fill all those feels but also then lay

536
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: no blame over time.

537
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: Obviously.

538
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: When I was in my twenties, I blamed them for sure. Yeah,

539
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I say that, nice relationship with my parents.

540
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: I would say, is that a good answer? I love that.

541
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: Are you texting boob? No, not at all, looks like

542
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: he is. Okay, so these are nostalgic questions. Now, okay,

543
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: what was your favorite thing to do when you were

544
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: in your twenties? And then your favoriting to do you're

545
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: in your thirties, thirties?

546
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: Oh no, the twenties, I will say, anytime I had

547
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: a down day, I would watch three things. Pirates of

548
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: the Caribbean one, two, and three, Yeah, Steve Ewen videos, Yeah,

549
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: and Jamie Oliver videos, specifically Jamie Oliver at home because

550
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: he cooks from his garden and the kids are so

551
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: tiny and so cute.

552
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: Are you texting boo? No, I'm not texting. What are

553
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: you doing? What about your thirties? Are you in your forties?

554
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: Stop getting don't get frustrated with other people. What was

555
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: something I did? It's a to do a thing to

556
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: do when you're in your thirties, I would say, go

557
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: to the movies. Okay, yeah, you do love that?

558
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: Love it because the energy of movie making is so important.

559
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: What's a song that brings you back to your younger year?

560
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: What's like in nostalgic? I'm not.

561
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a nostalgic. Like you keep singing the One

562
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Tree Hill song over and over.

563
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: The last few times. That's only because I heard it.

564
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: But what is that song? I can't remember? I don't.

565
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: Maybe I can't, I can't.

566
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: Every night he keeps singing it, I'm like, that's off

567
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: One Tree Hill? Like, oh, be able to know what

568
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: songs are from, like the OC soundtrack, all of that

569
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: that takes me back?

570
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: Do you know what takes me back? The Eer soundtrack?

571
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: Do you remember that song? That theme song? And also

572
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: X Files because they're the yeah, because they're the song

573
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: the shows.

574
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: My mum would let me stab on Thursday nights and

575
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: watch ye yeah X Files is scary scary for my Yeah,

576
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: I used bit so scared, but I loved it.

577
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: Mum would let me.

578
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: And because Mum had gestational diabetes, every now and then

579
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: she'd have to check my brother and me's blood, so

580
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: you go to a few prick test to just check

581
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: your blood sugar levels.

582
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: And one night she.

583
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Was really good at like manipulating you into doing hard

584
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: stuff by going you can watch X files after oh

585
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and so I'd have to give her my blood,

586
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: like do my fingerprick tests to check blood glucose levels

587
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: and then to be like all right, Scully and Molder,

588
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: you can watch X files.

589
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Okay, this's a funny one. What was your

590
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: go to fashion trend back in the day.

591
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: I worked at a clothing store called Stevie on Grevel Street,

592
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: and I had a mohawk and I had shaved side,

593
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: like the sides of my head were shaved. I had

594
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: leopard print hair extensions and baby blue hair extensions, and

595
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: I used to wear glitter, like a glitter little like

596
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: thing tied around my head.

597
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: And then I would have I would go to.

598
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: Office works and buy stencils and put like stencils down

599
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: my face like boy George, because I was trained to

600
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: makeup artists well. And people used to call me when

601
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: I go out because they also dj' people used to

602
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: call me that's Pokehontus on acid.

603
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. I was a wild child. Wow child.

604
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: This is a good question. What's the most unforgettable trip

605
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: you've taken? Oh, in your forty years? I love travel.

606
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: I love it.

607
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm a Sagittarius for rising guys, that's my love adventure. Okay,

608
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: although I'm not friends with this person anymore. I did

609
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: love going to the Maldives or Maldives that's the coo

610
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: last one with whale sharks. But I'm not close with

611
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: I took a girlfriend and we're not buttos anymore, which

612
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: is like quite sad. That's one thing in your thirties

613
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: that no one prepares you for. Friendship breakups. I would say,

614
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: but I loved going to the Maldives. I loved going

615
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: to New York for the first time. Oh yeah, I

616
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: love Hawaii. Yeah, yeah, I love traveling. But yeah, I

617
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: would say my first trip, my first work trip Hawaii

618
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: because I went to Hawaii as a kid. My first

619
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: work trip to Hawaii. I remember I was doing a

620
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: photo shoot with you know, Malanie, Gorgeous Melanie, and that

621
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: was really cool because that was a real moment where

622
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: I felt like I was coming into myself. And I

623
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: learned to stand up paddleboard that trip too, and it

624
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: was so cool because I was there doing a shoot,

625
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: but then also I was like doing my own trip

626
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: for myself, and I love that trip. Yeah, that was

627
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: really that was really important. But also the Maldives it

628
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: was so cool, Like I got it was a six

629
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: week holiday, no joke, and it was I had to

630
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: teach each hotel group how to use Instagram, and I

631
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: was allowed to bring my bestie at the time. And

632
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: so we went to Maldives, then three different locations in Mauritius,

633
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: and then Reunion Island, which is this a little French

634
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: island and we like hiked, like I said, swam with

635
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: whale sharks.

636
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: It was so much fun. I love it. What TV

637
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: show or movie to find your childhood or teens.

638
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: Teens would be the OC or Dawson's Creek for sure. Childhood,

639
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm still scared when I see memes of Witches.

640
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: Do you remember the Rods Witches? So I remember watching that.

641
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: We had a family friend, my mum, her best friend Fiona.

642
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: She had kiddos the same age as my brother Tristan

643
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: and I but sheared three kiddos and every Christmas we'd

644
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: go there a week before Christmas, go berry picking. They

645
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: live in this place called winchle See. But the kid

646
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: that was a similar age to me is Felicity. And

647
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: we would watch movies like those nineties movies over like

648
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: Never Ending Story, Lost, what's that one with the dinosaurs?

649
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: Lost? Something?

650
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: Rather but like Narnia, all those cool fantasy shows. And

651
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: we had a thing where you'd watch a movie and

652
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: you'd sit on your legs so your needs to be

653
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: bent underneath you and it'd be the first person to

654
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: get pins and needles in their legs and then you'd

655
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: have to walk around and your legs wouldn't work. It

656
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: was so fun, but you know you'd be falling all

657
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: over the floor.

658
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: That's funny. Yeah. Do you remember your eighteenth birthday? I

659
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: think you touched on it before you had a joint.

660
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: And we snuck into this club in Melbourne. All right,

661
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: so we'll get next time. Do you know what your

662
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: first concert? Yes? Dad took me to Alanis Morrish It

663
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: that's hilarious. How old were you? I don't know, like thirteen,

664
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: that's cute.

665
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: And then also Dad also took us to John Farnham.

666
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Tristan and I John.

667
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: I feel like that was linked to an event though,

668
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: like the tennis or Grand Prix or football or something,

669
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: and Dad took us to that. Yeah. We're a huge

670
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: football family. Football is a huge part of my upbringing

671
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: to AFL. What was your favorite toy or game growing up?

672
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: I had a FURBI, I had a Tamagotchi. But I

673
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: had this and I still have it and I know

674
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: it because Dad facetimed me yesterday. I had this toy

675
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: from when I was a kid called Monk, and it's

676
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: a big big monkey about the site, like bigger than

677
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: me as a kid, and Dad wanted at the Melbourne

678
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: show and we've still got it. Yeah, Monk, and it

679
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: had a little had a little t shirt on it

680
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: that I used to suck my thumb and have to

681
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: rub the material between my like it was some weird

682
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: sensory like kept me calm thing.

683
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, Oh this is this

684
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: is an interesting question. Romance. Yeah, because you just gave

685
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 2: me that voice. I know. Do you remember your first love? Yeah?

686
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: Of course, who everyone does? And what was that experience?

687
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: Like it was really nice because and I've written about

688
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: this in Phelasly Failing, Uh, there was ten years between

689
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: my love with him and meeting you, and you're both

690
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: music producers and you were a DJ at the time

691
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: when I met you, and so it was really interesting

692
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: because basically he was an amazing creative together like four

693
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: years or something, and you're an amazing creative. But everyone

694
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: I dated between knew too wasn't necessarily a creative. Like

695
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: there were engineers and like businessmen and all that, and

696
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: like there was always something where I found it so

697
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: hard to like connect on a deep level.

698
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: You need creative.

699
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember after I met you, I walked

700
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: into Terry, my therapist's office or room, and I was like,

701
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, Terry, I think I'm meant to be

702
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: with the creative.

703
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: And he was like, no fucking shit, yeah, and started laughing.

704
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's what's so cool about my first

705
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: love because when we ended, we ended on beautiful terms,

706
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: but he was like, this is the love you need to.

707
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: Remember because the bar needs to be.

708
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: Set high and as unfair as it might have been

709
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: for everyone else until I met you, Essentially I would

710
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: be like my first love's name was Kane, and I

711
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: would be like, they're no Caine comparing, like, which I

712
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: know sounds, but I think it was the more the

713
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: creativity and this the spirit that he captured, and I

714
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: think you in capture that spirits as well.

715
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, does that make sense how does that make you feel?

716
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: By the way hearing that, Yeah, good, fine, What did

717
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: you remember your first love?

718
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Like, first girlfriend, first love? I don't know, like it, No,

719
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: you're definitely really yeah, No, i'd be real. No, I

720
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: think I think like first two girlfriends were you know,

721
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: some semblance of love probably like yeah, my like the

722
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: second girlfriend, which was like the serious one when I

723
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: was like twenty or something like that, that was like

724
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: she wasn't like someone that like I'll compare anything to.

725
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 2: But I did remember comparing the next and next two

726
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: relationships to her. Yeah, But then that was a big

727
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: lesson for me because I was like, well, actually I'm

728
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: comparing to a made up version of it, and to

729
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: just actually not compare people and just meet people for

730
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: who they are totally.

731
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: And that's what I think I mean when I say,

732
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: like the creative spirit that you my first love have, Yeah,

733
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: I think that's what I was missing in all my

734
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: other relationships.

735
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: Ye, that creativity.

736
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think like a free spirit yeah as well.

737
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I like that. Yeah, I don't know,

738
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: maybe it's a bit different for me. I suppose.

739
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: No, I think what you said makes but I think

740
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: you and I both big into like mental health work,

741
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: and I think that also has a huge impact on how.

742
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: You look at past love totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And look,

743
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: I mean you can't regret any of it, can you.

744
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: You know, what are you most excited about for the

745
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: next decade of your life? Say, forty to fifty?

746
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I have so many like dreams and

747
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: wishes that I just so badly want to live out

748
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: with you. I think this is a really important decade too,

749
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: because I think forty to fifty, you've got your touch wood,

750
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: you're at your health, you got your vitality, you're at

751
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: your sharps, you got your focus. So like you can

752
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: move mountains in this decade if you want, don't you think. Ye.

753
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: Also, we don't have kiddos.

754
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: Which means we have time like as in our days,

755
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: aren't like changing diapers or nappies and saving money for

756
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: schooling and education. Like, we can invest in ourselves right now.

757
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: And I think that is like such a gift.

758
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: And I don't want to bandy the word privilege around.

759
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: But like how lucky that we get to be Like, Okay,

760
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: let's go gung ho at this dream that we don't

761
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: want to leave anything on the table. We want to

762
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: like have no regret. So you've taught me to show,

763
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: not tell us. I'm not going to list all my

764
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: dreams out right now, but I know that I would

765
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: like to think when we look back in ten years

766
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: time that we have fucking move mountains and fully lived

767
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: fully Like really given this such a red hot shake

768
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: and such a crack.

769
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: I love it. Well, what is actually one thing you

770
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: hope to accomplished by the time you're fifty? That was

771
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: my next question. Well do you want do you want

772
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: me to just say just one thing? Just go one

773
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: one thing. This is gonna sound really selfish, but I'd

774
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: love to win an Emmy. Okay.

775
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: I'd also love a ranch. Oh yeah, I would love

776
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: ask to have a ranch somewhere. Whether it's Montana, Wyoming,

777
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Byron Bay, Hinterland, or one in each would be nice.

778
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 2: But i'd love a ranch with you. Yeah, that's actually

779
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: not that hard. We could do that in the next

780
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: like two years. Do you reckon a Yeah, we're here

781
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: or there in Byron we could easily. Yeah, you know,

782
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: I've already got property there so we can look at

783
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: you little mogul. Oh yeah, all right, is there anything

784
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: you wish to leave behind in your Oh no, that's

785
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: anything you wish to leave behind in your thirties as

786
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: you enter forties.

787
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Self doubt, self judgment, and as my therapist keeps telling me,

788
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: you need to love yourself so that you put yourself first.

789
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: I'll always hold people on pedestals.

790
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: We're really lucky.

791
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: We have some really successful friends, and you're amazing at

792
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: seeing them as equals. But I'll be like, oh my god,

793
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: and I'll hold them on a pedestal and like see

794
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: all the Emmys on the wall or see all the

795
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: Golden Globes on the wall, and be like, oh, like

796
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: I let it kind of like I think I'm less

797
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: than them, Yeah, so I need to.

798
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: Let that go. That's them living their life, yeah, and

799
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: achieving goals in their life. It doesn't mean that they're

800
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: like better than you or need to be on a

801
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: fucking pedestal totally.

802
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 1: But that's a mistake I think I have definitely made

803
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: in the last like a few years for sure, which

804
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: I want to leave.

805
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Well, that leads into the next question, what's one piece

806
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: of wisdom you hope to pass to a younger generation.

807
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, don't comp yourself to others. My acting coach

808
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: here is says comparison is cancer for creatives.

809
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: That's true.

810
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, so don't comp yourself and don't think you're less

811
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: than anyone else.

812
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you could take a year off to travel

813
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: or pursue a passion, what would you do.

814
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Oh well, I really want you to take me to Italy. Yeah,

815
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: I think that'd be sick, like live in Italy for

816
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: a little while. I think that'd be really nice if

817
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: we had like bound endless cash. Yeah, I would love

818
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: to like yeah, get married in like Wyoming on Montana and.

819
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: Just bring everyone over for everyone to come.

820
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I or like even Byron but yeah, ah,

821
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of places I want to travel to,

822
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: Like I really want to go to the Cotswolds.

823
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

824
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I think you and I should plan to do that

825
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: in the next few years. I think that'd be so fun.

826
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think if we do Europe, we would do

827
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: it in that that period, like Devn the Cotswolds like

828
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: all that.

829
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: I've done big chunks in the UK before, but I

830
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: never got out to that real like romantic like farm.

831
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: Like that little like I just fund holiday. Yeah. Yeah,

832
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: that's like one.

833
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like one moment, but like that, just like

834
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: the being in the English countryside.

835
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: We've never really done that.

836
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah uh, and like some of the TV shows we see,

837
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: Like we watched this show recently it was all shot

838
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: in Yosemite.

839
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: Like next year, I want to go to Usemite.

840
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: Like just I really, I really want to, Like I

841
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: don't want to waste all so this gift that we've

842
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: got to live in America and just spend the whole

843
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: time in lay.

844
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: Like I want to move around.

845
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: I want to get a job shooting somewhere cool, or

846
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: like you get a job working out in New York

847
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: and we got to New York for a couple months.

848
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: I want to do all that. Yeah, love love it.

849
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: What new habit or hobby would you like to develop

850
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: in the next few years?

851
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: So I'm a yogi. You probably know this about me. Sorry,

852
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: I meant the listener. I meant the listener.

853
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: I think the listener knows this well. Jesus Christ. But

854
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: I used to be really like some new information.

855
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: I usually really good at back bends. Yeah, and I

856
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: used to be able.

857
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: To send also be good at talking into the microphone

858
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: and not waving it around.

859
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: It's my birthday. You don't get to be mean to me, boo,

860
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: not that that's mean. I used to be able to

861
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: do a drop back, which is where you go from

862
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: standing and you just like drop back into a backbend

863
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: a new land in a wheel. And I used to

864
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: be able to do it walking down the wall, Like

865
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: so you walk, use the wall to walk back into

866
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: a drop back. Be cool to retrain myself to do that,

867
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: because we say in yoga, healthy spine, healthy life. So

868
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: I want to reprioritize my yoga. But that's like I

869
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: can do that tomorrow. That's not something that feels too

870
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: hard to achieve. You can kind of kick that in

871
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: like two weeks of doing yoga every day.

872
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: Flat out okaol. I don't know if this is like

873
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: a bit of like a morbid question, but I do

874
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: feel like we're probably at the halfway mark of our lives,

875
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: you know, like not as if we're going to like

876
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: die in forty years, but have you thought about like

877
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: your retirement years.

878
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: I am definitely someone that want to work, wants to

879
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: work till the day they die.

880
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: I think that's you of being an actor.

881
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: I definitely am an overthinker and warrior. And like I

882
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: was actually talking to last night, and I was like,

883
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: I really want to make some health choices in the

884
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: next like from turning forty, where I just pull certain

885
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: things back because I said Dad, like, I don't want

886
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: to be inflamed. I want to feel vital, and I

887
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: live that way most of the time. But if I'm

888
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: having a stressful day or totally eat something sugary or

889
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: I'll you know, have an extra glass of vino or

890
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: something like that, and I'm just like, no, Like, I

891
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: feel like forty is the decade that you have to

892
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: really give a shit about your health. And I know,

893
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: like you and I do weights a couple of days

894
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: a week, and I don't know if you've noticed, but

895
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: I start hanging at the end of every session, and

896
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: there's this anti aging thing that like how good your

897
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: grip strength is. I've heard that, Yeah, and I can

898
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: only hang for thirty seconds. I used to be able

899
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: to do like two minutes. So I really want to

900
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: build that, like those like habits that help with longevity. Now,

901
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: I think this is the decade You've got to like

902
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: move the needle a little bit.

903
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Okay, what would you like your

904
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: legacy to be?

905
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: I would love to win an Emmy or multiple and

906
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: then go and teach other young actors how to maguiver

907
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry because it's so brutal and hard. So

908
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: I'd love to write a book about it. I'd love

909
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: to go into acting schools and teach young kids. Like

910
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: when I say young kids, like people in their twenties

911
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: that have just finished acting school. Like, I don't think

912
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: people teach the business side of the entertainment industry at all.

913
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: So to be so cool or like to set up

914
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: a foundation or something that helps younger actors like not

915
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: be like so many actors are talented, but they just

916
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: don't know how to do the business side of it.

917
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: And I would say, from what I've learned in LA,

918
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: eighty percent is the business side, say the business twenty

919
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: percent is like have you got the goods? And even

920
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: if you've got don't have the goods? If you're nice,

921
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: you can get rebooked. Yeah, So like I just think

922
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: I like that. I want to go out and do

923
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: that crazy, hard thing and then share how I did it.

924
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: Whether that's education, whether that's books, I don't know. But

925
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: I want to help other people fulfill their dreams, which

926
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: is why this whole podcast exists.

927
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: Love it. If you could have a superpower in your forties,

928
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: what would it be. I'd love to be able to

929
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: heal people. Be pretty cool. Oh yeah, like ping pin

930
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: sawney ping ping, You're good. Yeah, I'd love to how to.

931
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: Heal people like dad's got saw, like joints and stuff.

932
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: I'd love to how to.

933
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 2: Heal all that. Yeah, yeah, all right. If you were

934
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: to write a memoir, what would the title be? Isn't

935
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: philis failing that? Well? I don't think half memoir a

936
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 2: little bit, but like what would it like? What would

937
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: a memoir be of your life? I mean I probably

938
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: can't do this, but do the shit you love? Oh yeah,

939
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: I mean yeah yeah, just do the stuff you love

940
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: and forget about the rest. Like, just do the stuff

941
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: you love. I always thought that if I was a

942
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: right one, I would call it it's all in your head.

943
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: That's really cool. It's fucking all in your head. Yeah,

944
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: the only plays it exists in your fucking head. Yeah.

945
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I like, like, I like to do something around bravery too,

946
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: like feeling that fear and doing it anyway, like the

947
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: gift of bravery, or like cultivating bravery and courage around that.

948
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that. This is the call. It's

949
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of fun. One. Who would you invite

950
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: to your dream dinner party? Living, living or living or dead?

951
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's so easy, Steve Ewen? Okay, just you and Steve. Well,

952
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: how many am I allowed a dinner party? You can

953
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: have as many as you.

954
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: Want, okay, Steve Ewen, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Hits.

955
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ sounds like your no boss.

956
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: Don't make some dirty sex joke because that what you're

957
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: about to do. Johnny Depp would probably make it in there.

958
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Who's that actor that I love of Sakario Benito.

959
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: Benicio del Toro. Yeah, I reckon he be a bit

960
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: of fun. Yeah. What about Marcus Mumford.

961
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: And Kerry Mulligan. I feel like I would love them

962
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: both there? Actually, yes, absolutely he can. He can play

963
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: a tune if he feels so inclined.

964
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: What about no other musicians?

965
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, hang on, hang on, Johnny Cash, Elvis, of course

966
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: they're my two.

967
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: I was going to say Johnny Cash. You know how

968
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: much I love Johnny.

969
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: Cash makes me emotional thinking about him.

970
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty good hang on, hang on,

971
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: hang on, hang on, hang on.

972
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: I feel like there'd be some sick like be cool

973
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: to throw a cool composer in there, because you and

974
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: I are obsessed with scores.

975
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: With John Williams. Yeah, John Williams be cool. But even

976
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: what's her name? Hilda Good and a daughter? Yeah, that'd

977
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 2: be cool. I'm going to throw in I wouldn't mind meeting.

978
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: And this is just because we've been watching so much

979
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: of his work, But Seth Rogan, I feel like he's

980
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a mogul. He's really cool and he

981
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: stands up for what he believes in.

982
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like his relationship with his wife. I

983
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: like them. They've been teammates forever. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

984
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: And her name's Laurence. Oh is it? That's cute? That's

985
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: my name. Second last question, what's your guilty pleasure when

986
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: you need a break from everything? I feel like I

987
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: know the answer to this. Go to the movies? Yeah,

988
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: is that what you're going to say? While that and

989
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: like watching clips of like like concepts of like oh,

990
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: Marcus Mumfort Malmford and Sons and stuff like that. Yeah,

991
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: it was so do I need like courage?

992
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: Watched Marcus Monthford because he feels like he just lives

993
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of truth, and so I love watching

994
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: him because it just feels so real, especially yeah, if

995
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: I've got to like when I had to put in

996
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: my notice at work, I watched I remember I watched

997
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: his Stagecoach performance. And also we went to the show

998
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 1: this year and I cried how many times it was amazing?

999
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: So good. Okay, this is your last question. Oh wow, okay, okay,

1000
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: question forty for forty at forty yes I love you

1001
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: forty questions yes I'll marry you. Yeah, okay, well that's

1002
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 2: not on it that we question forty one, which you

1003
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 2: don't have time for today. If you could have dinner

1004
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: with your twenty year old self, what advice would you

1005
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: give them?

1006
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: Do whatever you love. Trust your intuition. It doesn't let

1007
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: you down. And don't take on other people's opinion of

1008
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: you or other people's like people put their own value

1009
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: system on you, don't take it on. Let it like

1010
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: be like literally water off a duck's back, and your

1011
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: intuition is rarely wrong.

1012
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: Like trust that.

1013
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: Trust the intuition, like if something feels off or if

1014
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: you feel like depleted after you hang out with someone,

1015
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: like trust that. Then notice how you feel when you

1016
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: hang out with people that are like very hope filled

1017
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: and I think, like, use your gut and your intuition

1018
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: as a guide.

1019
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 2: It won't let you down.

1020
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: Do not take on other people's crap when it links

1021
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: to your You can be a great friend to someone

1022
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: without taking on their version of what you need to

1023
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: do and their value system.

1024
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: That's really important. I love that. Yeah, that's a really

1025
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: nice way to wrap up, boss. Thanks. Well, do you

1026
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: want to answer that question? What is it? What did

1027
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: I ask if you sat down with a twenty year

1028
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: old version of you? I think that I was completely

1029
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: ruled by fear. Yeah, so I would say, like, what

1030
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 2: would be the right wording to say to my twenty

1031
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 2: year old self, like not get over it, but more

1032
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: like you know, this is all in your head, like

1033
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: fear is the fear is yeah not real or yeah

1034
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: really yeah, it's like you're like you're not in danger,

1035
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: you're not going to die, You're not like being chased

1036
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: by And I mean that's the problem with having anxiety

1037
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: as well. You know, all those feelings seems so real

1038
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: and your body has that reaction, but it's just like

1039
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: do you know what it's It's actually all going to

1040
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: be fine.

1041
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: Isn't there some stat like ninety percent of what we

1042
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: worry about doesn't even happen.

1043
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, But like legit, if I could just be like,

1044
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 2: it's all gonna be fine, Matt, like you are going

1045
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 2: to be fine, and you are like everything that you're

1046
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: about to do nothing is like so bad that it's

1047
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 2: like you're gonna die. Yeah, you know it's so, I

1048
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: would just be like, it's a bravery piece.

1049
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I think yours is a bravery piece and

1050
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: mine is probably a self confidence piece, I would say.

1051
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: But I think the underlying matching thing is like get

1052
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: out of your own head, yeah, and live in the world. Yeah,

1053
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: get out of the way, you know. So Yeah, Okay, Hey,

1054
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: happy fortieth but happy forty earth.

1055
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: I love you, love you, thank you for the listeners,

1056
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for imagine if the pod goes for another forty years.

1057
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: He's hoping. Yeah, there's no intention of it.

1058
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: I didn't meet with my pop manager last week, and

1059
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: she's like, I know, three episodes a week all through Christmas,

1060
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: no breaks, You're the only podcast, no breaks?

1061
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: All right, love love you, Happy birthday, Bye Happy.

1062
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly failing as always.

1063
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: Thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation

1064
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry.

1065
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: This potty my work for podcast is available on all

1066
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: streaming platforms.

1067
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: I'd love it if you could subscribe, rape and comment,

1068
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: and of course spread the love.