WEBVTT - Chloe Szep's Water Fast, Influencer Breaks Ups & The Burnt Cookie 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.160 This is outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.680 exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.560 Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:15.680 identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:20.640 all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:27.280 That is so fetch Thank you, Happy Friday, and a 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.880 big welcome back to Sophie who has made it just 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.479 in time to record today's episode. I did come back 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.800 specially for this. I had an early minute to return. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.839 How was the trip, Yeah, it was really good. Marion 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.760 Bay is such a beautiful spot, but as I mentioned 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.879 on Monday's episode, there isn't that much to do, so 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.400 you do have to make your own fun. We stayed 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.880 at a really lovely airbnb that had this amazing combustion heater. Wow, 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:52.279 you really do have to make your own fun. If 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.200 that was a highlight combustion, I've got one of my house. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.560 But I say that because our rental at the moment, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.400 the living room is so cold because our heater at 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.640 is broken, so it was like being in luxury. It 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.320 was so warm in the evening for those who didn't 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.200 listen to Monday's episode. You were, of course away with 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.040 your in laws on a trip. Did it all go smoothly? Yeah? 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.480 I did go smoothly. We had a room, so Brandon's 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.720 parents were staying in one Airbnb and Brandon and I 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.760 were staying with his sister in another Airbnb, and also 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.280 his auntie and uncle were over, so it was a 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.320 good time to get to know family members more. I 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.480 did really feel sorry for Brandon's uncle and auntie because 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.440 they literally had a mouse plague happening in their house. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.920 So cool. Every day they would discover new mice, so 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:43.360 there was even a mouse in their granddaughter's bed, which 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.280 I mean, isn't the nicest One also got into the Natella. 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.400 I mean it was a very clever rat. Well. I 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.520 think we should move on to our social dilemma of 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.520 the week, which was inspired by influencer jar Dae Tunci 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.080 and her boyfriend. Yeah So, jar Day shared on an 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.240 Instagram story that she was in the kitchen and her 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.440 boyfriend started bagging her out for putting plates in the sink. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.880 Let's throw to that clip friendly reminder that a few 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:15.200 means free and not put the dishes straight into the 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.400 dishwa washer. You don't have to put them in the sink. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.680 I've tried to teach this for four years now, but 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:25.959 she's still four years. Four years your record? How long 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.680 have we been together? How long have we been together? 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.919 Less than four years. I feel like the dishwasher is 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.800 a big one for certain people. So I feel like 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.120 when Amy, Sophie and I were living together that I 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.920 was like queen of the dishwasher. I was in charge 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.640 of how the plates went in. I made sure that 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.720 there wasn't food all over them, because that's my biggest 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.880 pet peeve when someone puts a plate in and it's 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.679 all still got food on it. So what you're trying 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.200 to say is you were the wanker about the dishwasher. Yes, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.080 I what, Oh my god, I got yelled out so 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.919 many times? And can you tell reesis because I asked 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.840 him today before the podcast, is it that I do 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.880 that you feel like you've had to train me domestically 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:04.840 around the house, And he said that I don't do 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.880 the dishwasher correctly. Now, he is coming from a family 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.959 his dad is so like over the top with the 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:12.960 dish washer that none of us even put anything in, 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.840 like it's very anal retentive and very impressive. And to 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.000 set the scene when we grew up, our dad didn't 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.080 really do anything in the kitchen. No. He did a 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.000 bit of a shock when you see men doing stuff 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.079 because we've been brought up with our dad doing nothing. Yeah. Well, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.680 so I was pretty offended over that. What about you, guys, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.960 What is anything around the house that you feel like 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.920 your partners had to train you to do domestically? And 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.880 I'm not saying that because we're women, Because there's things 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.960 that I've had to train res to do domestical house. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:43.119 I feel like it's almost ironic coming from men sometimes, Yeah, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.160 because I think they know they think. I think they 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.000 think they know how to do everything. Probably, like I 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.480 remember Dad would sit at home and watch Hughie's cooking show. 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.520 He then wouldn't cook dinner, but he'd have the nerve 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.880 to tell Mum how to do things like buy a 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.320 garlic crusher. And well, one thing that's come up a 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.080 lot with Dale and I living together is apparently I 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:02.880 leave a lot of stuff in the sink, so like 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.000 you know, when you go and take out the strainer 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.280 that's in the sink, he gets annoyed. If there's food 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.560 in there that is gross, it is it is gross, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.680 but sometimes it's the last thing, Like you forget about it, 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.000 don't you after you've cooked something, watched stuff out. Thus 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.719 has always got food in there. Well, I have a 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.200 few that I get in trouble for my Number one 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.000 is not putting the tower back. Number two is not 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:27.000 filling up the cold water in the way such a 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.040 prick you did that the other like last Friday when 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.720 we recorded, I went to get a drink after you'd 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.840 been here and it was completely empty and I knew 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.320 it was you. So that reminds me. Reese is always 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.200 on my case because if I leave, like if there's 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.520 a drink, I'll leave like a dribble in the drink. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.240 And then also with packets of like chips or something, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.680 I'll always leave like two chips, and Reese will go 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.640 to get them and he'd be like, what why do 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.719 you do that, Sophie. To be fair, I feel like 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.760 you would have trained Brandon because I feel like you're 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.320 both kind of at the same level of like moving 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.800 out of home, like because Brandon first moved out of 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.360 home with you at the same level I'd moved out 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.479 of home for about four years and we moved in together. 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.039 You hate and I had baby Juice, Yeah, child in 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.640 the house. There was one of the things that I 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.320 had to teach Brandon about was actually how to correctly 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.880 hang clothes on the line, well instead of on the 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.320 throwing them on the right. But you know, like boys 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.240 would just like you know, if you put up a 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.520 pair of pants, you pin them from the top of 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.719 the pants. You don't. He does them from the top 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.400 of the pants. Yeah, don't you hang the pants over? Yeah, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.160 and you but you put the pegs on the top. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:29.920 You don't do it? Hang them from the lake, yeah, 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.359 just on the peg issue, Sophie. Do you know what 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.760 I've heard that some people get so obsessed with the 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.080 laundry that they actually choose pegs that are the same 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.720 color as the idea. Oh no, no, sorry. I if 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.640 I have multicolored pegs, I like to use like, you know, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.440 two green pegs on the same shirt. Like I don't 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.839 have to do it, but I just automatically do. So 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.039 this is if you have a blue shirt, he used 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.479 blue pegs. If you have pink, hon is used many 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.479 how many colored different colored pegs people have? What the 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.640 one other other than the dishwasher. The thing that I 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.479 apparently do that is annoying and I feel like a 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.800 lot of I think you guys do it too. Is 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.000 you know when you finish the toilet roll and you 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.200 just leave it in the bathroom. I leave them in 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.000 the cupboard and then Dale has to come out with 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.800 like one hundred times. I feel like this is a 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.920 bit of a battle that most couples face, or when 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.479 you're living with a rumor it's the bin, because I 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.200 will literally place things on, like balance things on the 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.880 bin and refuse to take it out. See, I'm really 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.039 lucky because Reese is so good with the bin. I 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.360 think that's why our relationship works well, because he always 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.120 just takes it out and he can tell it. I'm 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.960 like procrastinated. Don't you love that with the bin? You 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.359 just screw yourself over because it gets to the point 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.599 where the garbage is so heavy that when the person 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.679 getting stuck taking it out of the bag, like brain, 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.160 I feel like I'm all rude. I feel like I'm 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.599 all for feminism, but when it comes to actually wheeling 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.640 the bins out the front, like I feel like that's 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.120 a man'sh My god, I get stuck doing that all 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.560 the time, really, and it will generally be in the 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.080 morning because we've forgotten and I'll be in my pajamas 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.560 with no makeup on. Well, I want to hear domestic 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.640 duties your partner has taught you, or domestic duties you've 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.400 taught your partner. Go to our Facebook group and tell 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.920 us in there also duties that you know you want 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.160 them to do, but they still don't listen. Hello, everyone, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.679 welcome back to my channel. On Monday, Chloe zep announced 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.240 to her six hundred and eighty four thousand followers that 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.240 she was undertaking a twenty four hour but water fast. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:25.119 This is what she said, re starting with a water 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:29.800 fast today for our water fast, just to like clear 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.920 out our gut and start the week with black some 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:35.800 full discipline. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.000 So after that update, Chloe then shared a picture of 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.880 a celery juice and added that she was also drinking 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.640 that as well as the water. Later on, she then 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.160 shared a photo of herself lying in the sun and wrote, 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.560 the sun charges us up and activates our DNA. The 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.360 sun is energy. Think of yourself as a solar panel. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.440 Sun equals energy. Oh my god, it got worse. So 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.600 she then also shared an update which has since deleted, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.120 that said I've only had water and one celery juice today, 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.080 doing twenty four hours of just water, no coffee, r food, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.880 Going surprisingly well, but doing it to rest my digestive system, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.800 use mind over matter, and to test my willpower, and 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.320 there's health benefits to it. This is just so dangerous, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.360 especially considering Chloe opened up a number of months ago 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.680 about having an eating disorder. Well, yeah, it really is. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.200 And also the fact, for those who don't know, Chloe 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.600 gave birth to her son, Aarti in August twenty twenty, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.360 so he's not even one yet. She is still breastfeeding him. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.400 And when I had to look into water fasting, it 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.360 said that people who are breastfeeding, and also people that 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.120 have experienced eating disorders or distorted eating should not be 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.840 doing a water fast. This was also alongside people who 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.040 are on blood pressure medication and also with diabetes. So 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.760 water fasting when you are breastfeeding is really bad because 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.559 you basically don't get all the nutrients your body needs 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.319 to keep you and your baby healthy. It is really 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.200 troubling because Chloe does have such a young and impressurable 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.600 audience and the thing is if if she wants to 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.440 go and do that in her own time, she's her 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.800 own person if she sees the benefit in it. But 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.280 where what I find troubling is her sharing all of 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.360 this to her audience, because people are going to go, oh, well, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:10.880 that must be healthy. I'm going to go and do 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.559 a water fast well, particularly when she kind of places 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.040 herself as an expert with her well web website, a 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.199 lot of people would assume that perhaps she does have 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.800 some sort of qualifications in this field and that what 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.200 she's saying is correct. Yeah, And for me, I think 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.840 it was the word of discipline that was constantly used 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.960 because I feel like that word is very triggering for 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.160 people with eating disorders. And we had a discussion about 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.839 this in our Facebook community, and there were members in 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.400 our Facebook community who have had eating disorders that did 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.480 find this really troubling and triggering, and I feel so 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.720 sorry for those people that had to see this on Instagram. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.200 So it was almost as though she was urging others 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.600 to look after their bodies in the way that she 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.400 was doing. So. Yeah. Well, the thing is as well, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.319 is that often when people do this sort of water 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.960 fasting and other things that they claim to be healthy, 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.120 they can be suffering from author rexia. So I'm not 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.480 saying Chloe necessarily is, but it can often be a 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.640 trait that people try and portray an extreme way of 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.160 eating or dieting as doing a lot of good for 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.480 their body when it's really not. Chloe did seem to 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.800 spread a lot of misinformation around this twenty four hour 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.760 water cleanse, and a dietitian actually sent her a DM 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.559 and wrote, what is disciplined about not eating? Stop spreading 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.280 ridiculous false information to your impressionable followers. The blood is 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.120 absolutely on yours and all the other pseudoscience wellness influencers 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.240 hands for promoting disordered eating to young girls. You know 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.480 what detoxifies your body. You'll liver, not water or celery 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.560 juice or any other food or drink. You are doing 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.360 more harm than good. And Chloe actually responded to this 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.480 DM and she wrote, it's allowing my body to purify. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.840 There's a lot of research on it. I'm not doing 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.280 it to be disciplined to stop eating for my body 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.120 before my mind and allowing my body to rest. Don't 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.600 share it then, don't share it online. You obviously know 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.680 you've been in the social media game for long enough, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.160 you know that people are going to comment and send 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.280 you dms saying that this is not right? Is it 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.720 just me? Or does this seem very much something that 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.720 would have happened back in twenty fourteen. I feel like 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.760 a lot of influencers know not to perpetuate this sort 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.680 of misinformation anymore. But Chloe just hasn't seemed got that memo. Yeah, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.600 I know. Well, do you know what I found pretty 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.200 interesting about the whole thing is it came off the 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.920 back of Chloe and Mitch unveiling their movie room. Now, 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.040 a lot of people were shocked when they saw this 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.840 movie room. I was because it had a massive amount 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.000 of food in it. It was literally like you were 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.560 at the movie Yeah, at the candy bar. I wouldn't 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.360 want to be doing my twenty four hour water cleanse 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.960 with sitting in that movie. It's funny you say that, 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.360 because Mitch was sharing photos of them in the movie 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.400 room saying it's really hard to be disciplined in this 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.400 room and there's all this bloody chocolate and popcorn and stuff. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.640 I've got to say it probably was the most bougie 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.840 home theater I have actually seen. Because we have a joke. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.439 We've got a joke previously about home theaters because some 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.640 people say that they have a home theater when they've 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.600 just got a TV and beanbags in the room. Like 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.839 this was next level. So what's kind of interesting though 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.880 about their movie room as well, is that Mitch and 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.520 Chloe had a fight in one of their vlogs about 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.839 which room would be used for the movie room because 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.760 they had two rooms. One was bigger. Chloe wanted to 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.319 use one as a meditation room and Mitch wanted to 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.280 use the other as a movie theater, and Mitch actually 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.720 won this fight. The room looks incredible, as Kate said, 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.679 it's got its own candy bar. The only thing it's 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.760 missing is a popcorn maker. That is a rookie era. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:29.600 How did they forget that? Do they have a slush 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.960 puppy machine? No, and I think it's a slushy machine, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.079 you know, only we call them slush puppies because that's 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.280 what they were called it out year seven canteen. Well, 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.560 I feel like the movie theater must be a big 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.480 thing for influencers because Saffron Barker, she is transforming her 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.040 house at the moment, and she is making a huge 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.400 movie room as well, and she was recently vlogging out 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.080 at the movies and she basically did this shout out 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.880 to a slushy company in the UK, saying, please send 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.439 me one of your machines and I will promote it. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.080 But apparently she did say that they only send out 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.160 the machines to corporations, so individuals can't have them. Well, 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.120 that's slush puppy company. It's like really a B to 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.800 B company, not a business to consumers, so there's no 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.840 point of her promoting it. You know what. The sad 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.120 thing about Chloe Zepp though, is that she is really likable, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.199 and I think that's what disappoints us when we do 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.319 see stories coming out about these cleanses that she's doing. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.000 Because when you see her relaxing in the movie theater 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.920 with Mitch and Artie, you can't help but like her 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.840 as a person. So that's why it comes. It's troubling 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.400 when you see those kinds of that kind of advice 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.679 being pushed online. I think that's why it's so dangerous, 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.880 because she's like your friend. You'd listen to her. I mean, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.000 not all of our friends have movie rooms. I mean 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:41.840 I probably would like to be friends with her if 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.720 I could attend the movie room. Oh my god. I 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.679 showed Brand in the movie room because he is the 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.160 biggest movie buff and he's like, that is literally my dream. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.000 You know what all I could think about was are 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.760 those chips going to go stale? Because I can't imagine 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.880 them eating them all. Yeah. So there was a big draw. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.120 They pulled out a draw and it just had chips, pringles, 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.880 anything you can ever think. It seems to be a 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.040 really big trend in the influencer community to just have 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.800 draws full of excess. It just seems so contradictory though, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.640 because then they're not eating any of them. Yeah, it's 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.680 like it's just all for the Instagram. Yeah. Good mining. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.560 So I'm curring down in Sydney still at the moment, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:18.560 and I thought I would take you long. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.000 Today and film my day in and life and take 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.680 it around and show exactly what we'll be not. 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.760 To boyfriend of Instagram Jonathan Sower, who previously dated Shany Grimman, 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.000 maybe back on the market, with rumors circulating of a 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.760 split between he and influencer girlfriend Madison Woolly. I feel 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.920 like we predicted this a long time ago because we 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.760 have been spotting the fact that these two keep following 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.960 each other and unfollowing each other. They stopped liking each 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.560 other's photos for a long time. It seems like their 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.560 relationship was quite immature, and it seemed to play out 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.440 a lot online. However, I have been listening to Madison's podcast, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.640 Girl Code, and it does seem like she has really 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.520 made an effort to kind of learn from those experiences. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.760 So they haven't unfollowed each other. They haven't, but as 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.680 you mentioned, her podcasts, Madison made it pretty clear that 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.560 things are on the rocks. Her episode was entitled breakers, Oh, 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.000 and there were so many little digs, like it's quite 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.200 obvious that they've split. They ketch like. I feel like 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.360 perhaps she's promised Jonathan that she won't say something for 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.720 a week, but there were so many signs that they're 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.880 not together. Well, the first sign their relationship was on 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.160 the rocks was when Madison announced that she would no 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.480 longer be moving in with Jonathan now. On her podcast, 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.040 she announced that she and her best friend Caitlin were 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.960 going to both be moving into a new place with Jonathan. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.560 A week after. She then told her followers that actually 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.000 she was going to be moving out by herself. Now, 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.920 this had to do with her business, her clothing brand 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.200 that she runs, so she said that she needed more 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.760 space to run her business, so she would be moving 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.440 in on her own. I do respect the fact that 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.600 at twenty three years of age, Madison is a very 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.360 independent person. I mean, I think a lot of girls 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.280 would just fall into, you know, having a boyfriend and 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.520 making them their whole life. So I don't really like 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.120 that message that she is sending to young girls. Well, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:05.800 I think we should go to some of the grubs 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:10.120 because on her podcast recently it became evidently clear that 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.720 they had broken up. The episode itself was entitled Breakup, 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.760 and there were a lot of digs about breakups and 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.560 why people break up. So let's go and listen to 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:19.400 some of those grubs. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.000 Look, I feel like it's been going on for a 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.520 while that I've been just dealing with some things behind 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:29.800 the scenes, and uh yeah, just really reached a peak 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.280 this week, didn't it. But I'm going to talk about 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.560 what's been going on completely next week in next week's episode. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.680 I just wanted to give myself like one week this 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.000 week just to kind of process everything being super super 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.920 like vague. But next week I'll chat about it and 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.960 let you guys in on kind of what's been going on. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.200 Someone said, how long should you wait? How long should 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.280 you wait to start dating after a breakup? I love 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.400 that all of these and breakup questions today, you guys 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.040 are really guys, are really gon't through it, okay. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.440 So I feel like, as a couple in the public eye, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.880 it would be really difficult to go through a breakup 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.880 like this. So I do respect the fact that they 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.439 are going to potentially talk about it at some stage. Well, 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.080 I very much respect that. I've been enjoying the content 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.840 so far, and Caitlin and Madison did say that they 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.240 would be sort of doing a little series on heartbreak 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.240 and getting over a relationship. So I'm very much interested 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.040 to see what tea comes from that because I feel like, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.959 you know, even the fact that Madison mentioned her ex, 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.720 so she went on, she told a story about how 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.480 her ex from NEWSA that basically they were so happy 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.760 together and there was nothing wrong with the relationship, but 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.240 she essentially, you know, wanted to do these things on 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.239 her own and moved to Sydney and whatnot. So I 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.920 just thought, wow, imagine being Jonathan and listening back to her, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.960 talking glowingly about hers and then putting all these potshots 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.920 in about him. Well, I've noticed online that the revenge photos, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.280 like the post breakup photos already started to emerge. So 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.199 Madison's been posting some pretty, you know, like basically like 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.720 hot photos of herself online. The first trap, yeah, with 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.040 some photos to show Jonathan what he's missing out on. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.800 And Jonathan has been sharing also some photos to show Madison. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.960 There was one photo, yeah, So there was one photo 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.280 that showed up and Jonathan was wearing these bright yellow 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.880 bike shorts and let's just say he had a rather 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:28.760 big bulge in his pants. And one follower of his commented, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.040 how many socks are left in your sock draw? Bro? 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.400 And I mustn't been. I was thinking the exact same things, 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.560 I bet you. Like if I was Madison and I 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.119 saw that, I would just be so glad to be 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.280 rid of him, because why do you want to guy 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.199 out with someone who stuffs their jocks for Instagram? For 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.919 it to be fair, A lot of male models probably 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.879 do that, can I don't know, I just there is 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.200 something that I get. The eg fact about men posting 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.280 Instagram shows that he did this one this morning and 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.240 he's on something. I think he is actually a model now. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.240 He was out on this shoot and it was him 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.600 pouting in a mirror, and I just I mean, he's 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.800