Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I am a lawyer and health coach,
Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife and dog mum. On the Rise
Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health,
Speaker 1: relationships and more. This is a podcast for women who
Speaker 1: want to rise up to be the best version of themselves,
Speaker 1: who have big dreams in who are willing to put
Speaker 1: in the work to get there. I want to bring
Speaker 1: you the tools and actionable steps to feel confident in yourself,
Speaker 1: inspired to take bold action, and motivated to conquer your goals.
Speaker 1: Are you with me, girl friends, Let's rise and conquer. Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Rise and Conquer Podcast. Today,
Speaker 1: I have a mini solo episode for you and we
Speaker 1: are chatting fear. We are rising and conquering fear. So
Speaker 1: this has been coming up a lot lately, whether it's
Speaker 1: for myself or in my DMS or I even remember
Speaker 1: I got a question about this at the live podcast
Speaker 1: events and so a big reason why we don't chase
Speaker 1: out of dreams. We don't do you know, the thing
Speaker 1: we want? We don't take the bold action is because
Speaker 1: we're fearful. We're fearful of what others will think. We're
Speaker 1: fearful that we won't make money, that it will air
Speaker 1: quotes fail. So this can relate to a lot of things, like,
Speaker 1: you know, wanting to leave your job and pursue your
Speaker 1: side hustle, or even starting a side hustle, or this
Speaker 1: might be a toxic relationship that you want to leave,
Speaker 1: or just starting something new. And a big thing that
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about lately is realizing that we very
Speaker 1: much have a choice with most of our actions in life.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to sit here and try and say,
Speaker 1: you know, I understand everyone has fear, and I understand
Speaker 1: all the concepts around it, because I just don't. I know,
Speaker 1: everyone has so many different circumstances, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we all do have a choice in
Speaker 1: taking that next step leaving the job, you know, leaving
Speaker 1: a relationship, starting something new. And I read a quote
Speaker 1: the other day and it said you are not stuck
Speaker 1: where you are unless you decide to be, And so
Speaker 1: I really resonated with this. And in regards to fear,
Speaker 1: we may feel fear, but we can choose if it
Speaker 1: consumes us or if it doesn't. So something I constantly
Speaker 1: have to remind myself is, like I said, like we
Speaker 1: have a choice, and we get to decide who we
Speaker 1: show up, who we want to be, and what we
Speaker 1: want to do. So a lot of you would know
Speaker 1: my story with leaving my corporate career and starting something new,
Speaker 1: but I'm just going to go into a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I did my law degree, I finished that. I
Speaker 1: then while I was doing my law degree, I got
Speaker 1: this amazing job at a good mid tier firm in
Speaker 1: the city. I worked there and I was starting out
Speaker 1: as a law clerk, and then I end up getting
Speaker 1: a graduate position and I did my pot through them.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. They paid for it like a really
Speaker 1: amazing opportunity, and basically at the end of it, you
Speaker 1: get a job in the firm. And I was doing
Speaker 1: family law and I would had to transfer into a
Speaker 1: different sort of law, which was fine. But also while
Speaker 1: I was studying law and working corporate, I was doing
Speaker 1: this side hustle of my Instagram and YouTube where I
Speaker 1: was blogging and vlogging about what I loved doing. And
Speaker 1: so a lot of that was health and fitness, and
Speaker 1: a lot of it was mindset too, and so I
Speaker 1: was doing the side hustle thing and the corporate thing,
Speaker 1: and it kind of just got to the point where
Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't do both. And so I was
Speaker 1: at this crossroads where I either stayed in corporate, took
Speaker 1: the job, did the job, and let go with my
Speaker 1: side hustle. And that was obviously it's a very safe option.
Speaker 1: And in regards to you can imagine what you know,
Speaker 1: my parents or older people would have thought, is like,
Speaker 1: of course, you're staying in corporate, You're staying in the
Speaker 1: safe job. You're staying in the law job. But I
Speaker 1: did have sparkly eyes for this side hustle, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know where it would leave. Like what I was
Speaker 1: doing in that moment wasn't what I wanted to do
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. But I just had
Speaker 1: this really intuitive feeling that it's almost like niggling feeling
Speaker 1: that I was supposed to do this, This was like
Speaker 1: my right path. So I came to these crossroads, and
Speaker 1: I had such fear around this decision because I'm very
Speaker 1: logical absos he did a law degree, Like I love structure,
Speaker 1: I love black and white, so logically I knew the
Speaker 1: you know, air quotes right decision was the law job.
Speaker 1: But then intuitively, I had this really strong feeling towards
Speaker 1: this other thing, this side hustle, which was very murky
Speaker 1: and I didn't really know what was happening with it,
Speaker 1: but I just had this really strong feeling. And the
Speaker 1: only reason for not doing the second option was because
Speaker 1: I had fear around what would others think of me?
Speaker 1: I had fear around like, you know, where can this
Speaker 1: even lead? What even happens here? I should take the
Speaker 1: safe option, you know, the option where I'll know I'll
Speaker 1: be able to provide for my family that's you know,
Speaker 1: recognized by social standards as a real job, and just
Speaker 1: the fear of the unknown, like what's going to happen?
Speaker 1: And so that was the biggest crossroads and the biggest
Speaker 1: fear choice and decision in my life. And looking back,
Speaker 1: I'm just so glad the decision I made because of
Speaker 1: what has followed by following my intuition, really not letting
Speaker 1: that fear consume me and having faith that, you know,
Speaker 1: things were going to work out. And if I really
Speaker 1: followed my true authentic self and really what felt aligned,
Speaker 1: then everything was going to be okay, and so I
Speaker 1: just wanted to go through some stuff kind of some
Speaker 1: like tools. You guys know, I love my tools and
Speaker 1: my practices that I do when there is this big
Speaker 1: decision and I am facing a lot of fear and
Speaker 1: how I sort of work through it because I know
Speaker 1: firsthand how difficult it can be. So the first thing
Speaker 1: I want to chat about and all these exercises I
Speaker 1: will usually do in a journal. I'm really into like
Speaker 1: writing things down and getting them out on paper, because
Speaker 1: often when thoughts are just swirling up in your head,
Speaker 1: they feel a lot bigger, and they feel just like
Speaker 1: kind of harder, and I find like putting things on
Speaker 1: paper and then rereading them, they can become a lot
Speaker 1: easier or clearer, or you read it and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's actually not that bad, or I shouldn't be so fearful.
Speaker 1: So highly recommend getting out a notepad and pen and
Speaker 1: maybe just write down these questions and then you can
Speaker 1: journal later or whatever you want to do. So Number
Speaker 1: one tool is I asked myself, like, how will I
Speaker 1: feel if I don't make this step, if I don't
Speaker 1: make this choice, how will I feel? This is a
Speaker 1: lot to do with the feeling of regret, because even
Speaker 1: though fear is a really big feeling that can keep
Speaker 1: us stuck, for me, especially with my decision to leave
Speaker 1: corporate life, was around the feeling of regret. And it's
Speaker 1: funny I actually read it. I think I heard it
Speaker 1: in a podcast about this study where they interviewed all
Speaker 1: these people who were on their deathbed quite literally, and
Speaker 1: they asked them what is like one thing they wish
Speaker 1: they had done or what would they change in their life?
Speaker 1: And most of the people talked about things they wish
Speaker 1: they would have done, So they didn't talk about, oh,
Speaker 1: it was so great I stayed in my corporate job
Speaker 1: and did the safe option. They really talked about the
Speaker 1: things that they wish they had done. And that's what
Speaker 1: I mean in regards to I think regret is this
Speaker 1: really big feeling, and so you kind of need to
Speaker 1: sit in the feeling of Okay, here are the options.
Speaker 1: How will I feel if I don't take option A?
Speaker 1: And how will I feel if I don't take Option B?
Speaker 1: And personally, for me, I knew, you know, I had
Speaker 1: finished my law degree. I knew I could always go back,
Speaker 1: you know, I might not have that job waiting for me.
Speaker 1: But it was still an entry level job. And you know,
Speaker 1: I knew I had the wits about me that I
Speaker 1: could find another Whereas if I didn't do this other thing,
Speaker 1: the side hustle thing, which I didn't really know where
Speaker 1: it would lead, That's the thing. I didn't know where
Speaker 1: it would leave. I didn't know what would happen, and
Speaker 1: I just knew that I would have so much regret
Speaker 1: around that. So for me, the regret was a lot
Speaker 1: stronger than the fear, and that's the reason why I
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Speaker 1: straight back into the episode. So another tool or practice
Speaker 1: you can do is think about the worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: So with me, I had this second option, the side hustle.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going to happen, where it
Speaker 1: would lead, and that's how I guess a lot of
Speaker 1: you would feel in regards to your next steps. And
Speaker 1: so I put myself in the worst case scenario of
Speaker 1: what would happen if I did this side hushole thing,
Speaker 1: if I took the leap, what would happen? And the
Speaker 1: worst case scenario for me was I would go back
Speaker 1: to law, I'd go back to a corporate job. And
Speaker 1: then it kind of struck me that I was already
Speaker 1: in my worst case scenario. So I was already in
Speaker 1: that corporate law job, which if I didn't take the
Speaker 1: second option, I would be in. But basically, think of
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario if you don't take this next step,
Speaker 1: if you don't chase this dream, and if you're like
Speaker 1: already in it, then what have you got to lose?
Speaker 1: And that's what I realized. I thought, what if I
Speaker 1: got to lose? Like, and I know in some circumstances
Speaker 1: you may have a lot to lose, but really thinking
Speaker 1: about what is the worst case scenario? And also I
Speaker 1: kind of got okay with the worst case scenario, so
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I can leave this really safe,
Speaker 1: amazing job and I can do this side hustle and
Speaker 1: really just find out what's happened. If I fail, I
Speaker 1: come back to this current position. And I was okay
Speaker 1: with that. So I think, once you get okay with
Speaker 1: a worst case scenario, you almost like the fear disappears,
Speaker 1: and that kind of happened. I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: a story when we started Naked Harvest, me and my
Speaker 1: brother Cooper, So we were talking about this worst case
Speaker 1: scenario of starting Naked Harvest, and we did both have
Speaker 1: to put in a lot of money at the start
Speaker 1: because Naked Harvest is completely funded and built by ourselves.
Speaker 1: We didn't get any loans or any people supporting us.
Speaker 1: And so me and Cooper spoke about this and he
Speaker 1: was like, worst case scenario is I have to sell
Speaker 1: my house and he was like, I'm okay with that,
Speaker 1: and it's it's so true, Like he was like, look,
Speaker 1: if I have to do that, you know to do
Speaker 1: this company because he believed in it so much. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to do that, and I love that. I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking back and having a laugh. Sorry, getting back
Speaker 1: to it. So really like, sit in what is the
Speaker 1: worst case scenario? And then another thing to do And
Speaker 1: this is a really cool thing to do. And I
Speaker 1: love sitting in feelings. So sit in the feeling of
Speaker 1: what happens if you take this next step, if you
Speaker 1: chase the dream, and if you succeed, sit in that
Speaker 1: feeling right now, and then ask yourself if it is
Speaker 1: worth foregoing that feeling. You know, if you're going to
Speaker 1: have regret if you don't get to that feeling. And
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily about being successful, but it's about having
Speaker 1: the knowledge that you tried. So for me, it was
Speaker 1: really important that I didn't care too much about being unsuccessful,
Speaker 1: but I did really care about if I didn't even
Speaker 1: try in the first place. So they are two really
Speaker 1: easy tools you can use. And then another thing I
Speaker 1: just wanted to touch on is you know, if you are
Speaker 1: currently chasing this dream or there is this big next step,
Speaker 1: be prepared, don't overdo it. So personally, before I went
Speaker 1: off by myself, did my side hustle, started this podcast,
Speaker 1: started Naked Harvest. I definitely tried to prepare myself in
Speaker 1: ways like I actually got a business coach. I've taken
Speaker 1: courses in the past, like I took like an online
Speaker 1: course of how to start a podcast to start my podcast.
Speaker 1: I have had mentors, I've read so much books. You
Speaker 1: guys know I love my books. I actually was wondering
Speaker 1: if you guys want me to do a segment on
Speaker 1: here where I literally just go through you know, like
Speaker 1: my five favorite books, my five favorite podcasts, my five
Speaker 1: favorite like resources that have got me to where I
Speaker 1: am today that I have found really impactful. If you
Speaker 1: guys want that, definitely let me know. And so I've
Speaker 1: listened obviously to a lot of podcasts, and so it's
Speaker 1: great to be prepared. But something that I do often
Speaker 1: find is people, and I've done this myself, guys, is
Speaker 1: people will constantly like consume this knowledge of what to do,
Speaker 1: but to the point where they won't actually take the
Speaker 1: first step. So they'll just constantly think, oh, I just
Speaker 1: need a bit more knowledge about podcasts before I start
Speaker 1: a podcast, and they'll go listen to, you know, eight
Speaker 1: more podcasts on how to start a podcast or buy
Speaker 1: the next course. So it's important to be prepared in
Speaker 1: this next step, but I think you need to realize
Speaker 1: that honestly, like no one really knows what they're doing,
Speaker 1: and it's more important to actually take the small action.
Speaker 1: And something that I've realized in regards to consuming resources,
Speaker 1: podcast books, when you start to hear the same things
Speaker 1: over and over again, this is a sign that you
Speaker 1: need to stop consuming. You need to stop listening to
Speaker 1: the podcast. Stop you know, reading the books, and you
Speaker 1: need to take action because you're never going to feel ready.
Speaker 1: Even now, when I look back at all the big
Speaker 1: things that I've done or accomplished when I started them,
Speaker 1: I did not feel ready for one thing, Like, not
Speaker 1: one thing. When I started this podcast, I literally was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so amata, Like I just
Speaker 1: like I was not ready at all. And even with
Speaker 1: Naked Harvest, I thought what am I doing? Or like
Speaker 1: leaving my corporate job like it, it never feels like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm ready to leave. Now I'm going
Speaker 1: to leave. Everything's going to work out. It doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like that. It feels fearful. But I've really learned to
Speaker 1: lean into the discomfort, like lean into the fear, because
Speaker 1: the reality is, you know, when you think of your
Speaker 1: mentors or the people that you love and adore or
Speaker 1: look up to who have done things that you want
Speaker 1: to do or you know, like accomplish things that you
Speaker 1: want to do, I guarantee you they did not feel
Speaker 1: ready before they took that first small step towards that goal.
Speaker 1: Like it's really funny because it's like you want clarity,
Speaker 1: you want to feel like, Okay, it's ready and then
Speaker 1: I'll take the step. But clarity doesn't really come until
Speaker 1: you take the step. And also you'll find that the
Speaker 1: first step will be very messy and you will tweak
Speaker 1: things and perfect things along the way. And so that's
Speaker 1: why I always tell you guys, like, take messy, bold action,
Speaker 1: because that's how you get somewhere. That's how you do something.
Speaker 1: And also a big thing you need to realize is
Speaker 1: no one is going to do this for you. No
Speaker 1: one is going to be brave for you. When you
Speaker 1: are facing fear around taking this next step or chasing
Speaker 1: your dreams. You are the only person that has the
Speaker 1: ability to take the next step to be brave. And
Speaker 1: trust me when I say no one knows what they
Speaker 1: are doing, like no one has all the answers, but
Speaker 1: they throw themselves into it and they just yeah, they
Speaker 1: get into it. And I think that's really what sets
Speaker 1: people apart, and really sets the people doing pretty epic
Speaker 1: stuff is they will take bold, messy action and they'll
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable, they'll be consistent, and they'll just kind of
Speaker 1: figure it out. And I think you need to realize
Speaker 1: that your journey is exactly that it is your journey,
Speaker 1: so how you get to your next step, how you
Speaker 1: see yourself in the future, Like, it's all up to
Speaker 1: you and it is going to be so different to
Speaker 1: everyone else. So don't get too called up in you know,
Speaker 1: your first step looking like mine or looking like someone else.
Speaker 1: Really lean into listening to your intuition, listening to yourself
Speaker 1: and going from there. At the live podcast event, we
Speaker 1: interviewed this amazing woman called Angela Carmen and she is
Speaker 1: a consciousness coach. She has a real key healing too,
Speaker 1: and we asked her, you know, how does someone know
Speaker 1: how to listen to their intuition? And she said, your
Speaker 1: intuition comes from your heart and your gut. So she said,
Speaker 1: ask yourself the question and hold your heart and see
Speaker 1: what the answer is from and really try and get
Speaker 1: the answer from your heart, and then hold your gut
Speaker 1: and ask the question again and really feel it in
Speaker 1: your gut and heart, and you will either like she
Speaker 1: was explaining that your body will really like feel into
Speaker 1: it or reject it and listen to that instead of
Speaker 1: listening to like the logical thoughts. And that's something I
Speaker 1: constantly have to work on because I'm such a logical person.
Speaker 1: And I'm really trying to get into my other side
Speaker 1: of the brain. But yeah, and also relayze guys that
Speaker 1: everything really takes time, and I know it kind of
Speaker 1: it looks like there's these overnight success but you know,
Speaker 1: like just to let you guys know. For example, I
Speaker 1: obviously do sponsorships on Instagram, but I was blogging and
Speaker 1: posting on Instagram and my blog for five years before
Speaker 1: I even started to get paid. Same with YouTube, and
Speaker 1: it was like a very small amount. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to scare you or anything, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: things really do take time. But in the end, if
Speaker 1: you are being intuitive and you are taking bold, aligned action,
Speaker 1: that's when the goodness happens. But that is it. I
Speaker 1: just really felt cooled to speak about this because I
Speaker 1: know it is such a huge thing and fear can
Speaker 1: really consume you, and it really upsets me because I
Speaker 1: know that you guys have so much potential to really
Speaker 1: chase after your dreams and like do the epic things
Speaker 1: and really chase your goals. So I hope this helped
Speaker 1: and I will see you in my next podcast. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for listening into this week's episode. If you
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