1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Something needs to be addressed before we do anything. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: Oh dear, what is it? 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Something has happened, something has gone down and has potentially 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: put this podcast in disrepute, And for once it wasn't me. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: Oh what happened? What did I do? 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: We released an episode a while back, Yes, claiming to 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: do the first drive in Australia of a BYD at 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: oh three. Oh yes, we will promise that. Yes, from 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: the fine people at BYD. Beyond your Dreams, Build, Build 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: your dreams, Beyond your Dreams built whatever work working title. 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: There is a member of the media that had the 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: car before me, and there was no driving impressions to 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: be put out on this car other than this podcast. 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: We were supposed to get the first drive. This weasel 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: of a person. Now we've talked to the lawyers here. 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to use his real name, so let's 17 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: just call him I don't know Trevor, and I'm not 18 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: allowed to say where he works. I'm allowed to say 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: it's like a morning TV show, So let's just sort 20 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: of say. 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: The second highest rated morning TV. 22 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just make up any name of a morning 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: TV show at a fictitious show. I don't know the 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Today show now, Can I just before. 25 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: You No, No, this guy published a first Impressions and 26 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: a first drive less than twenty four hours after he 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: handed me the car. 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't even supposed to put anything out there. He 29 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: find tests fridges. So this is what I'm saying here, 30 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: This is why we do what we do because these 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: so called journalists, I don't know who they are. What 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: he does, you can't trust him. Oh but it was 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: it was EV week. They wanted me for EV week 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: and so I came on there for the today's EV Week. 35 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: They wanted you and they got PISS Week. 36 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Can I just say I actually quite liked Trevor, So. 37 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm not what you told me off a. You told 38 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: me he was an overweight bag of shit. He's actually 39 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: quite a nice guy. And I think that for anyone 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: to have done. 41 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 4: That, and he probably wouldn't have known that he wasn't 42 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: allowed to do that because I just judging by my 43 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: interactions with the. 44 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Judging by my text message is that I got from 45 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: beyond your dreams, build your dreams. He was he was 46 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: quite aware. 47 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: Interesting, now that you've simmered down. 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. He looks like the 49 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: kind of guy that eats hot dogs for dinner. Me, No, no, no, 50 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: no no. So you'd have you'd get your missus would 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: be away for the night, and you'd go right here 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: this is, and you'd go down to the safeway and 53 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: you'd get like a six pack of sausages and a 54 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: loaf of bread, and you'd have like a sausage and bread. Right, 55 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: But this guy would just eat an action like who 56 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: has who? You're a grown adult and you'd have hot 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: dogs for dinner anyway, Paul shaking his head, and I 58 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: think I might have ruined a friendship. Love your work, Trev, 59 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: stick to the vacuum cleaners. 60 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: So on with the episode'ute again now literally I'm looking 61 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: at the counter. 62 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, I'm okay. Hey, let's talk about some cars 63 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: that have popped out onto the scene, yes, Jesus, and 64 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: ones that have excited me young day have dropped quite 65 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: a few little, I don't know, rip snorts of cars, Like, 66 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: I think they've been putting out some pretty cool things. 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so two cars they launched, well three cars. 68 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: So they launched the ion X six, which look, I'm 69 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: no design expert, but I think it looks gross. 70 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: The back of it looks kind of like an au Falcon. 71 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: Which full respect to the au Falcon, but that belongs 72 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 4: in the early two thousands. 73 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where it should have stayed. 74 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: But anyway, they then rolled out two other things that 75 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: got me quite excited. 76 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: So the first was the. 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: R N twenty two E and the N Vision seventy 78 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 4: four and they're both zero emission rolling lab concepts. So 79 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 4: the R twenty two E is an all electric concept 80 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: car and I think that's what's going to be the 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: production ion X six N that will eventually translate to 82 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: the IX five N as well. But the N Vision 83 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: seventy four is this kind of retro looking concept that's 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 4: powered by hydrogen. 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's get to that in a set, because 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I feel like that that's a complete beast of a car. Ye, 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: first of all, your impressions of the we are in 88 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: twenty two E. It's a pretty cool car. Again, I 89 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: feel like it's borrowed styling wise, bits and pieces. 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: From the au Falcon. 91 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well perhaps, and also like the front sort of 92 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: looks like Tykhan a little bit, you know, with the 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: with the lights there. That rear has got a kind 94 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: of ADDI vibe about it. Very on the on the 95 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: side there, it's almost. 96 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: Like an A seven at the back, you falcon. 97 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's cool. 98 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: So with the twenty two E, they're saying that it's 99 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: powered by two electric motors four hundred and thirty kilowatts 100 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 4: seven hundred and forty newton meters. So this is basically 101 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: going to be Yuda's version of the EV six GT, 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: which is the fast fast one. 103 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: I think they reckon. It will do over two. 104 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: Hundred and fifty kilometers an hour, which is pretty impressive. 105 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: The EV six GT is two sixty claimed, which is 106 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: just amazing for an electric car that they've been able 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: to achieve that. And it sits on the EGMP platform, 108 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: which is the IIC five platform, which means it has 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 4: eight hundred VOULT charging. It is actually a good would 110 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 4: EV platform. So yeah, I think that's that's exciting. 111 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: But the thing that. 112 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Sorry, those EV six gts are starting to pop up 113 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: in America and stuff right now. 114 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's like the proper fast one. In Australia, 115 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: we have the GT line and this will be the 116 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: full fat GT version. 117 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Zero to one hundred in like under four like three 118 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: point five or a point something. 119 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is bloody amazing decent. Yeah. 120 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: The second one was the the hydrogen concept, which is 121 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 4: called the n Vision seventy four. Now, this looks really 122 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: cool because it's it's kind of based on what he 123 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: called the Pony concept that they did ages and ages ago, 124 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: and this borrows a lot of styling cues from that. 125 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: It's got those cube headlights that you see on on 126 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: I five as well. This one's cool because it has 127 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 4: again dual re amount of electric motors over five hundred 128 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: kilwatts nine hundred meters of talque hydrogen fuel stack as 129 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 4: it's power source. 130 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: I just think that this this will. 131 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: I guess this kind of signals Hendau's intention to not 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: move away from hydrogen. Tesla has forced a lot of 133 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: manufacturers to pick a side hydrogen or electric, and I 134 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: think Henday's trying to have a toe in both camps. 135 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a good move. It may not be sensible, yeah, 136 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: it may not necessarily be business savvy move, because I 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: know hydrogen is bloody expensive in all aspects, especially right 138 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: now and especially because it's early days, but there's certainly 139 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: a lot of benefits at the moment to hydrogen over electric. 140 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: Well, the reason This one is very interesting. Is because 141 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: something like a mirror, which is Toyota's version, it only 142 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: has a one point to kill aut our battery, so 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: it's it's very small nod. 144 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: You just go ahead and eat. 145 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, you keep going, I'm just going to use some bacon. 146 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: Ye just pop that back in your mouth. So the 147 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: mirror uses a tiny little battery that is. 148 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: Little them enjoy this without your talking. 149 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: Just for a reference as well, he had a cookie 150 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: before that. 151 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: So I can't find my corky because you hate it. 152 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: That's why he's found down. 153 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm a happy man, all right. Now keep talking about 154 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: something I don't give a shit about it. 155 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: Yes, So Mira uses a small one point two killer 156 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 4: at our battery and a five kilogram hydrogen tank. And 157 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: the way that it works is the hydrogen fuel stank 158 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: basically runs an electric motor. It charges that small battery, 159 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: and the battery discharges to the road. The Hyundai version, though, 160 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: uses a massive battery, so it's a sixty two kilo 161 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: at our battery. It's the same size of battery you'd 162 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: find in something like a ConA a ConA EV, and 163 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: it uses a small hydrogen tank so it's able to 164 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 4: use the hydrogen fuel stack to generate ninety five kilowats 165 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 4: to charge the battery, and then it uses the battery 166 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: to power the car. So this is a completely different 167 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: concept to anything we've seen before, and I think that 168 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: this is the way to go. You don't really want 169 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: something like a Mirah, which is so painfully slow and 170 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: not interesting. 171 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: This actually sort of bridges the gap between them. So yeah, 172 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: I love this, And I may or may not. 173 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: Be getting a closer look at these very very very soon. 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: What does that mean You've already looked at them and 175 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: you're not telling. 176 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: Me I may or may not. 177 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: Have you looked at them already? 178 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 2: I may or may not. 179 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,239 Speaker 1: I know they're in the country. 180 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: No, all right, next news story. 181 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: Why can't you invite me to this shit? It's only 182 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: for you and Trevor going together? Are you? That explains 183 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: a lot? That explains a hell of a lot. 184 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 4: They wanted someone with a bit of clout, you know, 185 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 4: someone that gets gets stuff. 186 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: Someone that can vaguely knows about cars, but it can 187 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: also tell you what vacuum cleaned are buy. 188 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: Now, guess what's been axed from Australia. 189 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: Hang on, I'm still looking at the n Vision seventy. 190 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: Four, Welcome to five Minutes Ago. Very Dolorean, yeah exactly, 191 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: and also very pony concept from the seventies. 192 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Right yeah, that was that that that was their original one, right, Yeah, 193 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: it looks good. 194 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: Yes, guess what's been axed from Australia. 195 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: A car that I don't reckon should have been asked 196 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: from Australia. 197 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: Yes, two of them actually, so the Ford for Esa 198 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: ST and the Focus ST. 199 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 200 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: I just don't get that. So Ford. I think it's 201 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: probably a smart move by Ford. 202 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: They've realized that they only sell in Australia the Ranger 203 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: and the Mustang, and they've realized they really shouldn't be 204 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: wasting time on anything that isn't an suv or a 205 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: dual cabut or a commercial vehicle. 206 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Once upon a time, though, like small cars were all 207 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: the rage, you know what I mean, like it ebbs 208 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: and flows. 209 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 4: But these still sell quite well, like in Australia, stuff 210 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: like I twenty thirty and they all sell really well. 211 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,119 Speaker 2: It's just Ford. 212 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: Hasn't really committed to doing much with these cars. 213 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: You look at Ynday, they've got a performance club. 214 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 4: They're really sort of throwing a lot at their performance 215 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 4: cars with Ford. Just I don't know Ford had their 216 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: performance club as well, but I think that it just 217 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: kind of really didn't That's true. 218 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: They're like much about it. They're all they're all doing it, 219 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: nit Toyota are doing it with the gr. 220 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So anyway, it's sad to see these gone. 221 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: They were actually pretty decent cars and at one point 222 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: in the past actually ran Focus st with an available 223 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 4: mound tune aftermarket tune and that thing was. 224 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: Basically like just a menace on the road. It was 225 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: pretty cool. 226 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, rip there for the Focus and the Fiesta 227 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: for Australia. 228 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: Can imagine you in a Focus. I can just imagine 229 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: I saw you in a cute little car, which we'll 230 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: talk about later, but imagine you've done around a little Focus. 231 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: I have got some exciting news that that you'll love 232 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 4: and that you probably already know about you And guess 233 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: what is asking you to guess a lot in this episode. 234 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 4: I know thousands of this car are due in Australia 235 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: within weeks, and I'll give you a hint. Oh yeah, 236 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: it's the world's best electric vehicle, according to. 237 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: You, world's best. Ye I think I think you've got 238 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: your facts wrong. I think I think you'd say maybe 239 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: the highest selling electric car in China, but I wouldn't 240 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: call it the world's best. 241 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: That's what you were told to say. 242 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: But all right, come on mate, the b y d 243 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: Atto three is they're coming. 244 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: I told you the better late than never, longest wait 245 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 4: of my life. 246 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: So the b yd just because you. 247 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: Still haven't se what he did was left hand drive. 248 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: Didn't even sit in the left hand drive one. 249 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: So the Atto three, they've got thousands of them coming 250 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: on a boat. They claim that they have four thousand 251 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: sales banked, and strangely, retired footballer Tim Cahill is a 252 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: brand ambassador for ev director company that's selling them. 253 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: So is he was at the launch that I went to. 254 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: I just don't get it. What's the connection? 255 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 256 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: Why is he famous? 257 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: He's a famous football he's a famous guy. 258 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: Didn't he have a Vron at one point? 259 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: What? 260 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: Oh? 261 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did too. Yep. 262 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: This seems like a bit of a side step yes, 263 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 4: side and then very much down. 264 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: A couple of steps into the base. Murt Oh geez, 265 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: what can they what can they do for me? So? Yeah, well, 266 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: these people are putting families in cars. I'm not going 267 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: to win. 268 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I want to see its crash tested first. 269 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: I also want to see what the servicing rate, like, 270 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: how is it going to work? 271 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: Because it's all been very vague. 272 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: You drop it off a k mar Bro. You just 273 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: go to Camart, do your go, do your shopping and 274 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: take it to the camar tyront order. 275 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: Come back with your duney rolls. 276 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, go, come back with some nice like the little 277 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: interiors next to the VN commodore that's getting its wheels aligned. 278 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent thing. 279 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: And then you're good to go. Is that? Oh that's 280 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: Tim Kale? Jesus, is that Tim Kale? God, he's let 281 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: himself go, hasn't he? Jesus, have a look at him. 282 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: He looks like something. He looks like a villain out 283 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: of a horror movie. He does. He really has coming 284 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: from the picture of perfection. Get out of here, pack 285 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: up your bacon, Negrol. 286 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: You're the one that had the bacon and negroll and 287 00:13:59,160 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: the cookie. 288 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: Don't touch my cookie and get out. Have a look 289 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: at him. I will kick your head like a soccer ball. 290 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: Mister Merrish, there you go. 291 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: That's that's news. 292 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Is there? Any cars that you've seen that we should 293 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: we should talk about. It was what cars have popped 294 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: up lately. Civic Type Are. 295 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, Civic Type Are that is coming to Australia. 296 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's this is funny. 297 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: The current generation Civic Type Are looked very over the 298 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: top and was really out there. Yeah, and this is 299 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: more sort of like this is like the opposite. It's 300 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: so sedate that you don't really know it's a Type Are. 301 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: I agree, it's almost two kind of conservative. 302 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've gone a little too far in the other direction. 303 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: It's it's either one. It's the problem with this is 304 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: and suber Usoa did this a little bit. It's either 305 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: one extreme or the other. They can't just find a 306 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: happy medium. Like I really liked when they got all 307 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: aggressive with the last hype Are, but then the paired 308 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: it down. But they've really paired it down. 309 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it really doesn't look all that sporty, 310 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: so I'm sure it will be sporty because the Civic 311 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: Type Art was actually very engaging and fun to drive. 312 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: It didn't sound great, but it was engaging in fun, 313 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: So I'm hoping the new one sounds better but still 314 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: retains the engaging in fun despite not looking all that interesting. 315 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: So I guess we'll have to wait and see. 316 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: But there will be huge demand for this car when 317 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: it finally arrives in Australia I think next year. So yeah, 318 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: kind of looking forward to having a steer of that 319 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 4: as well. Probably a bunch of outrageous colors that are 320 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: coming to. 321 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh god, including that red interior. 322 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was full on. 323 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: That's a bit who ha, Why do they do that? 324 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what? I will say that Honda have 325 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: brought out not crap, but like a lot of stuff 326 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: that just looks boring. There's nothing really exciting going on, 327 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: and I feel like what they've been dropping lately, what 328 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: they've sort of given as a peak at is actually 329 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: the start of at least they're kind of evolving a lot. 330 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean you look at the old HRV 331 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: that was literally the retirement special. If you were under 332 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: seventy driving that, you're probably driving it for your great 333 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: grandparents for some reason. 334 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: So I think that Honda is turning a corner. 335 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, the pricing is just way out, like it 336 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: is so expensive for a lot of their cars, and 337 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: they just keep jacking their prices up for no real reason. 338 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: It is so strange, and they've always been quite an 339 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: expensive car, a fairly expensive car to maintain too. 340 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, anyway, should we. 341 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Jump into our review? 342 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, just before we do, I am just a little 343 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: bit concerned by the monitor above your head is a 344 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: video stream from a studio somewhere that isn't here. 345 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: Where is that? 346 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: Because I it looks it's like that is that studio. 347 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: This is great for the podcasting world. Well done, Paul, 348 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: You've really nailed the medium. 349 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: It's actually very creepy because there's there's no one in there. 350 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: The doors open and there's a trolley and I don't 351 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: remember that existing in this building. 352 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: So I am going to after we record, I'm actually 353 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: going to take you in that room and make you 354 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: smile while I take something pictures. Okay, okay, So look, 355 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: basically what that is is this is used as a 356 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: radio studio, and that is their secondary studio. It's not 357 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: much of one, but it's supposed to a secondary studio 358 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: is essentially supposed to mirror what this is. This is 359 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: where the breakfast studio are, and that studio that you 360 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: can see on the monitor, which is just over there, 361 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: is where the newsreader sits. So they basically want to even. 362 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: Why do they need to see that person? 363 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: Well, because generally when you've got like a team of 364 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: people in a radio show, you kind of want to 365 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: include people, so you want to want to see them. 366 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: Put them in a room that's like in another building exactly. 367 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's quite inclusive. Yeah, yeah, it's terrible audio. 368 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, Paul, just learning as we go. Shall we 369 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: do the review? Yeah, we must come on, do your 370 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: little yes, yes, aren't we excited about this? Yeah? 371 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: So sure sounds like it. 372 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: The mg HS EV LGBQ, this car has honestly more 373 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: pronouns than Demi Levado. And I know you don't know 374 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: who that is. 375 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: To say, I don't know, you don't know who that is. 376 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: But for there's going to be people who engaged in 377 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two pop culture, and we'll be like, get. 378 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: That good, good one, good one, Gordon. 379 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 6: The twenty twenty three mg HS plus EV the Excite 380 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 6: model starts from forty six thousand, six hundred and ninety 381 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 6: dollars drive Away or the model we reviewed, the Essence 382 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 6: from fifty one thousand, six hundred and ninety dollars. 383 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: Now, can I explain very quickly why it's so expensive, 384 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 4: Because it's not an EV. 385 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: They call it a plus EV, which is just a 386 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: little bit of a bit of a marketing. 387 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: It's a tweak to the advertising. Really it is actually spin. 388 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 4: It is actually a plug in hybrid EV, but they 389 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: try and make it sound like an EV to make it, 390 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: you know, to make your friends think that you're great. 391 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 4: So the reason it's expensive is because traditionally, plug in 392 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: hybrid evs are more expensive than their standard counterparts because 393 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: they generally team a big battery, or not as big 394 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 4: as a big EV, but a big battery for a 395 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: regular car with an electric motor and an internal combustion engines, 396 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: you can drive on both. And with the HS plus EV, 397 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 4: it's got a seventeen ish killer what our battery? 398 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: Now? 399 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. 400 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: This car just it has nothing to do with MG 401 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: in general. It's just the way that they've engineered it. 402 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: They've kind of just they've taken an internal combustion platform 403 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: and gone, okay, what can we do to make people 404 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 4: think this is green? 405 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 406 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: I know, let's take the engine out and tweak this 407 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: and that, put. 408 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: A little something in here. Let's just quickly roll through 409 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: it because it very much is of Topspec hs really 410 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: ten speed auto sun roof, keyless entry, push buttons start, 411 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: eighteen inches led headlights MGS. What do they call it 412 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: the pilot's safety system? Yep, three sixty parking, twelve inch 413 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: digit dash, big sort of multimedia touchcreen, Well not big, 414 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: but it's a decent size wired Apple car Play, Android auto, 415 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: heated front seats, it's got technically on paper and in 416 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: photos it's got pretty good features, right and ones, I 417 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: reckon you should expect for fifty one thousand dollars yep. 418 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: But then this car is pretty much like my ass. 419 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: It looks great from a distance, it looks really good 420 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: in photos, but then you just get up real close 421 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: and there's just a big hole in the middle. It 422 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: was horrible, falls like I went to university. What am 423 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: I doing? Yeah, I don't think it's that bad. I 424 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: think for me, I'm going I'm big, harsh. Yeah. 425 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: Well, they've tried to make this good, but it's just 426 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 4: a lot of things as an EV owner that they 427 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: just haven't done well. 428 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: So just the way that it drives. 429 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 4: So the ten speed Audo that you mentioned, it's actually 430 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 4: it's an interesting gearbox because it has I think it's 431 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: a six speed auto for the internal combustion engine and 432 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 4: a four speed for the electric components. Right, so while 433 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: you're driving, it just has the most random fluctuations in 434 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: acceleration that. 435 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: Just don't feel normal or good. 436 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: So from a driving point of view, it just isn't 437 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: all that sort of good. 438 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: Before we get into that, the main sort of positive 439 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: or the main feature of having a hybrid car economy, right, Yeah, 440 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: that's why people would generally go down this track. 441 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, you get economy out of it, but the 442 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: economy isn't spectacular. So they claim one point seven leaders 443 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: per one hundred k's but you don't get that because 444 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: you need to be able to just eat it. 445 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: By cookie retime. Paul talks and I get a bit disinterested. 446 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: Let me just be fatter. So yeah, they. 447 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 4: The few economy claim is only there if you're constantly 448 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 4: charging it. 449 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't offer DC charging, So if. 450 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: You look at the Outland a PHEV or the Eclipse 451 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: Cross PF, they both do DC charging, So your only 452 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: option is a slow AC charge. So you've got to 453 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: be able to charge at work or at home. 454 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: It's a good five hours on this too. 455 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, and that's if you're using a fast charger. 456 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: Zero to one hundred times of six point nine seconds 457 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 4: is fine. It's sort of nothing spectacular. The way that 458 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: it handles isn't great, so the body control isn't very good. 459 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: And the other thing that annoyed me as well, I 460 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 4: certainly couldn't figure out how to do it was to 461 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: schedule charging. 462 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: It is the bane of my existence. At home, we have. 463 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: The EV charger, and I want to charge off peak 464 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 4: so that it's cheaper. I could not see any way 465 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: to do that in this car. So and it was 466 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: the same story in the z SCV as well. You 467 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: just can't schedule charging. 468 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: So what does that mean? So you basically when you 469 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: get home, you plug it in, get about it. But 470 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: the scheduled charging will sort of say, hey, ten o'clock, 471 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: ten thirty at night, we're gonna start charging. 472 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, so it'll all be plugged up, ready to go, 473 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: but it won't actually start charging un till then. So yeah, look, 474 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 4: I think that as their first attempt, it's fine, but 475 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 4: if it was me, I'd be spending on probably the Outlander. 476 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 4: I know the Outland is a bit more expensive, but 477 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 4: it's a much better car, a much better plug in hybrid, 478 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 4: And I just think that if if you really want 479 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 4: to get that full plug in hybrid experience, there are 480 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: much better cars. 481 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: Yeah even I mean for the price as well. The 482 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: thing that gets me is the price of this car, 483 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: and MG the. 484 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: Price is actually not bad compared to other plug in hybrids. 485 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: What about the RAP four, it's technically it's a little 486 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: bit more than the RAP four. 487 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: Red four is just a hybrid, So the RAD four 488 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 4: doesn't do electric driving, So this will do up to 489 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: seventy k's or sixty three k's of just EV driving. 490 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 4: RAD four will drive for two hundred meters on EV 491 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 4: before the battery runs out. 492 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. 493 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: So that's why these are expensive, because you're paying for 494 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: the battery. But it is the cut price version of 495 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: this system that you're going to have a much better 496 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 4: option of with other brands. 497 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: I think what MG do really well is they make 498 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: affordable cars, and they make affordable cars with fairly good 499 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: features at a price point of say the HS top 500 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: spec for instance, say it's around about thirty five forty thousand. 501 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: Between that point, you can kind of forgive it if 502 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: it's going to if the seats are a little bit 503 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: like weird and the driving position is a bit off, 504 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: because essentially you're getting a feedture packed pretty good family 505 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: car for under forty thousand dollars, but then you're looking 506 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: at nearly fifty two thousand for exactly the same thing, 507 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: but it's a plug in hybrid. I probably would skip 508 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: this car, to be honest, I'd go straight to an 509 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: HS just like a standard top spec rather than pay 510 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: shell out extra for the EV. I don't think there's 511 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: much point, I think economy wise. Personally, I was driving 512 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: around not really thinking about it too much, but I 513 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: remember getting to the end of sort of midway through 514 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: the second week going I pretty much feel like I'm 515 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: getting the same fuel economy as I would in a 516 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: normal car, and I was just doing normal. 517 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 4: Actually, it'd be worse because the problem with this is 518 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 4: if you're not charging it daily and taking advantage of 519 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 4: the big battery on board, you're then lugging around a 520 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: seventeen killer what hour battery. 521 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: But wouldn't it still be working in conjunction with each other. 522 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: It does still work as a hybrid, but you still 523 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 4: have the weight of that battery, so the advantage of 524 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: something like a RAV four hybrid, and why they're so 525 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 4: efficient is that comparatively, the battery is a sixteenth the 526 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 4: size of the battery in this and that means it's 527 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: a sixteenth the weight. So when you're driving a RAB 528 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: four hybrid around, every time you slow down, it charges 529 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: the battery and can then run the engine to charge 530 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 4: the battery. With this, if you do want to run 531 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: the engine to charge the battery, which again it doesn't 532 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 4: really do very well, you're then using a whole bunch 533 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: of fuel to charge the battery. So this is why 534 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: you have the ability to plug this up and then 535 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: when you drive it reduces your sort of fuel consumption. 536 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 4: But if you don't charge it, it will act just 537 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: like a hybrid, but a hybrid that's carrying around a 538 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 4: giant battery that's not being used. I think there is 539 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: an application for this type of thing, but you have 540 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: to be committed to charging it nightly or daily and 541 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: then you might get value out of it. But I 542 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: just think as a plug in hybrid, there are just 543 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: better options out there. 544 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree. I think as I said before, 545 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I think what MG do really well is affordable cars. 546 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't think this is one of them. I did 547 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: get a I got an email right from a guard so. 548 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: You can show me one of those pictures. 549 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: We talk about that off air, please. Now just the 550 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: UK women's soccer team. What they do in the locker 551 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: room is their business. Now she she pictures off air. Now, 552 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: this is a question regarding the new Ranger, wanting to 553 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: know if it qualifies as a commercial vehicle instead of 554 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: an instant asset right off. 555 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so no, that's a good question. 556 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: So there are two categories for the instant our set 557 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 4: right off. And this is not financial advice, by the way, 558 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: so we don't get. 559 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: Suit, got a couple barefoot invest what else. 560 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: There's two categories there, so one is up to I'm 561 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 4: gonna let me look this up while I'm talking. You've 562 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: got two different categories instant asset. 563 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: Right of this is where I eat my cookie. 564 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. 565 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 4: So there's two categories there. One that goes up to 566 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: So the original cap was thirty thousand dollars. They increased 567 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 4: to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for businesses with 568 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 4: turnover below five hundred million. And then they've got two 569 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 4: different categories. So you have fifty seven thousand, five hundred 570 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: and eighty one. This was for the twenty nineteen to 571 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 4: twenty twenty income tax year. It may have changed, and 572 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 4: then you have one hundred and fifty thousand for commercial vehicles. Now, 573 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: any vehicle that isn't a commercial vehicle, so that is 574 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: a vehicle that doesn't apply to the commercial vehicle rules, 575 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: can only claim up to fifty seven five eight one 576 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: for that income tax year. 577 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: Anything that is a commercial view can go up to 578 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty. 579 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: Now, this is the definition of a commercial vehicle, so 580 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 4: it is a commercial vehicle is one that's capable of 581 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 4: carrying more than nine passengers or with a payload above 582 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: one thousand kilograms. So where this affects the ranger is 583 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 4: that if you are going for a higher spec ranger 584 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: for something like a Raptor for example, that's on the road, 585 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 4: like ninety thousand dollars or more, if it doesn't seep 586 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: more than nine, which doesn't legally, you could probably. 587 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of boys in the bag. 588 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: The payload is not above a thousand kilos, you can 589 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 4: only claim up to that fifty seven. Now, what some 590 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 4: brands are doing, so ram the guys that are doing Silverados. 591 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: They're offering a GVM upgrade that will give you payload 592 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: above a thousand kilos so that you can meet one 593 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand dollars threshold, and that means you 594 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: can claim all the way up to one hundred and 595 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: fifty grand. 596 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: So to answer the question on a Ranger, it depends 597 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: which ranger. 598 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: Some offer above a thousand kilos payload, they are then 599 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: classed as commercial vehicles and you can claim up to 600 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty k or if it's not, you 601 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 4: can only claim up to the passenger car limit. 602 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: Can you get parts to kind of make this have 603 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: a bigger. 604 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you can. So my understanding of the 605 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 4: rules is you can upgrade the GVM, but you can't 606 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: downgrade the GVM, so that means that you can upgrade 607 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: it to meet a new tax threshold. So there are 608 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: probably companies out there that will do a GVM upgrade 609 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: for your Ranger to tip it over a thousand, because 610 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: some of them are very close, So depending on which 611 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: one you go for in the engine that's fitted, some 612 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: of them are like nine eighty or nine fifty, so 613 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 4: it is only a small change you need to make. 614 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 4: And the hundreds or thousands of dollars you need to 615 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: make that change could push you into that higher instant asset. 616 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: Right off bracket. So yeah, it is a little bit confusing, 617 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: but they are the rules there. 618 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: For commercial vehicles, it has to be more than nine 619 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: passengers or payload above a thousand kilos. 620 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: Have you taken possession of your Ranger yet? 621 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 5: No? 622 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Not yet. 623 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 4: My Raptor is built currently waiting for a boat to 624 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 4: send it over here. 625 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Oh really still not here? You know what will be 626 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: here pretty soon? What thousands of me could you imagine 627 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: if it like if it was here before you're wrapped up. 628 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 4: They're on a boat, but it was that was meant 629 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 4: to be here like March, soans technically late anyway. 630 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: Wow? What other car have you got? Y Tesla's coming. 631 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: According to the app my model Why is scheduled for 632 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: delivery between August eight and twenty two, so very soon. 633 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: Wow. What color did you get? 634 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: Gray? 635 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: Ah? A sexy shade of Elon tan. You saw that, guys, 636 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: you saw you saw Elon's holiday photos? Yes? 637 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: I did. 638 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah he he. You can tell that guys working hard. 639 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: He hasn't been out of the office in a long time. 640 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 4: Well, the only time he is in the office is 641 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 4: when he's sleeping with his coworkers and getting them pregnant 642 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 4: because he's been busy doing that. 643 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's into that. He's like really into pro creating. 644 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: I heard like he's like fully donating his sperm and yeah, 645 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: he's like he's like really into procreation and trying to 646 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: make as many humans as possible. There you go. 647 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: Interesting. 648 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: Now, if you hear us say this every single time 649 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: you listen to our great podcast but don't do anything 650 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: about it, make today the day that you actually do 651 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: something about it and leave us a rating on the 652 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 4: platform you're listening on. So we do appreciate that. On Apple. 653 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: I've been looking at Spotify as well. Heaps people have 654 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 4: left a rating there and a five star rating. By 655 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 4: the way, some bitch left us a one star rating. 656 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: I know who that is. 657 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the many people you piss off forever. 658 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Or Daniel, Daniel, Daniel wouldn't Daniel wouldn't do that. 659 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 5: As much as I hate your crude humor, I must 660 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 5: shave Drive show, I wouldn't leave you the one stair 661 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 5: raging that that pathetic Trevor left you. What shit? 662 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 7: Thank you, Daniel, I agree, but yeah, if you good, 663 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 7: please leave us a rating that would be great. And 664 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 7: if you do want to send us an email for 665 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 7: us to read out on the show or some feedback 666 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 7: or whatever, contact at the Drive Show dot com. That 667 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 7: are you just a warning that Gordy will delete anything 668 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 7: that's negative about him, so most of the emails we 669 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 7: get we can't read out. But yeah, contact at the 670 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 7: Drive Show dot com dot au. Anything you'd like us 671 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 7: to talk about or spend more time on, we would 672 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 7: love to hear from you. 673 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm just going through the emails right now. I 674 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: probably should have done this pre show something. Someone was 675 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: giving you a shit about your selling off your someone's 676 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: giving you sit about selling off your hsvs to pay 677 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: for your bitcoin problem. What else have we got here? 678 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you're prepared. 679 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: Shs have we got? Oh it's Daniel, he said, I 680 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: just listened. You guys went easy on me. Well off, Daniel, 681 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Everyone,