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Speaker 1: No secret I like to read.

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Speaker 2: I'll give everything a go, except for small sy romance

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Speaker 2: novels and historical wall stories big on a couple of

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Speaker 2: I read quite a few books while I was on holiday,

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Speaker 2: and last week I couldn't resist. I got hold of

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Speaker 2: Spare Is the Harry book. It could have been called

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Speaker 2: my frost Nip Toodger.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, that would have been a better touch.

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Speaker 1: And if you know, you know, if you haven't, you'll

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Speaker 1: have to read the book. It could also have been.

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Speaker 2: Called TMI too much information. But look, I don't even

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Speaker 2: I still don't know quite how to feel about the book.

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Speaker 2: It's everything and nothing all at the same time.

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Speaker 1: There's just I've always.

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Speaker 2: Been a bit of a fan of the royal family

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Speaker 2: because there is sort of a just a sort of

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Speaker 2: how the other half lives mystery, and I've enjoyed that

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Speaker 2: bit of mystery. Of course, I don't want to know

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Speaker 2: a lot of the stories that are in this book.

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Speaker 2: One thing I'll tell you that it fails to do

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Speaker 2: is it fails to ever really sum.

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Speaker 1: Up exactly why he's left. There's a lot of sooky.

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Speaker 2: Stories, a lot of woe is me and he. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's the royal family. It's not about It

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Speaker 2: does come with all its horrible press, but it's not

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Speaker 2: too bad a life as far as being privileged goes.

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Speaker 2: The way he talks, you think he'd been born into

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Speaker 2: a family of redneck puppy killers that live under a bridge,

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Speaker 2: that you know, have to struggle for everything that happens. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I've had a sad day. I'm going to have to go.

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Speaker 1: Skiing for three weeks or something.

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Speaker 2: And that's how he deals with it.

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Speaker 1: There is a lot of stuff you don't want to know.

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Speaker 2: One thing that strikes me through the book is he

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Speaker 2: constantly calls William Willie. Now, okay, that might be a

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Speaker 2: nickname they had for each other kinds and stuff, but

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Speaker 2: it's so pointed that he's trying to kind of belittle

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Speaker 2: him as the future king by calling him Willy.

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Speaker 3: His name is William, whether it was a full name

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Speaker 3: or not.

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Speaker 2: The problem is with a story like this is there

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Speaker 2: is always three sides or to the truth. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's yours, there's and the act.

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Speaker 1: One of Megan's three stories.

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Speaker 2: Megan, she still annoys me because she had she was

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Speaker 2: she didn't like what she was marrying too.

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Speaker 1: She had plenty of time to back out.

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Speaker 3: She went through the fairy tale wedding.

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Speaker 2: I just think that it wasn't quite what she thought

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Speaker 2: that it was going to be in terms of the attention.

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Speaker 1: She wanted.

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Speaker 3: What's the thing of bringing up how many kills he

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Speaker 3: had whilst in battle? Because that's come up before, that

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Speaker 3: point of boot that has.

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Speaker 2: Come up before, and it's probably it's just simply probably

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Speaker 2: not a wise thing to be.

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Speaker 1: But he did.

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Speaker 2: He didn't mind himself as a as an army person.

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Speaker 2: He was did he say there's a something? He ended

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Speaker 2: up flying a patchy hole helicopters for five minutes and

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Speaker 2: there's a line in the book about something there's a

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Speaker 2: reason why there's only a handful of people on this

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Speaker 2: earth can fly these things.

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Speaker 1: He quite fatcy, isn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he thinks he's pretty good, and it's very braggy

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Speaker 2: at times. I love the chapter that starts with So

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Speaker 2: I was on the phone with Elton.

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Speaker 1: John really having a silk about what.

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Speaker 2: Was going on, and Elton said, said, come to Paris, darling,

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Speaker 2: So you know, read to Paris.

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Speaker 1: As he's very wingy.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, if what is a lot

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Speaker 2: of the things he says is true. The tabloid press

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Speaker 2: in the UK, the paps, the paparazzi.

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Speaker 1: It is too much. It's a lot for someone to handle.

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Speaker 2: Every single move, but the over sort of all thing.

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Speaker 2: And I will say this, as a twelve year old boy,

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Speaker 2: he should have been the death of his mother should

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Speaker 2: have been handled differently in terms of how.

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Speaker 1: A twelve year old boy grieves, because this is.

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Speaker 2: The underlying thing of the whole thing, is how he

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Speaker 2: didn't know how to handle any.

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Speaker 3: Of that on the stiff upper lip.

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Speaker 2: And yet all of that he talks about as a

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Speaker 2: twelve year old on the very day that she died,

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Speaker 2: having to go to church and then go out and

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Speaker 2: with all the mourners that were lining up outside the

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Speaker 2: palace and having to shake their hands and take their

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Speaker 2: flowers and put them down.

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Speaker 1: And he said they were beside themselves, they.

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Speaker 2: Were crying, they were openly morning, and he was thinking,

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Speaker 2: these people are allowed to do this.

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Speaker 1: And I can't. She was my mum.

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Speaker 2: So that whole confliction has really affects him still.

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Speaker 3: How about the queen? Did you take very fondly of

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Speaker 3: the queen?

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Speaker 2: You're not allowed to touch her even see I've always had

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Speaker 2: this fantasy idea in my head that the royal family

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Speaker 2: put forward this you know, this image and everything, but

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Speaker 2: behind closed doors, they'd give each other a bit of

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Speaker 2: ribbing and muck around and just be a bit more normal.

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Speaker 1: Well, he made it sound like, no, it's not like that.

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Speaker 3: The same rules for Paul Keating touching the queens.

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Speaker 1: But exactly he wasn't allowed to. I thought, surely you

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Speaker 1: hugged your grandma, that's weird.

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Speaker 2: But no, apparently that was all very very formal, he says.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I flat out don't believe him because he's I

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Speaker 2: was surprised to see that he and Princess Margaret weren't close,

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Speaker 2: because I thought they shared such such a story that

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Speaker 2: they would be close. When he wanted to marry Megan,

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Speaker 2: he had to ask the Queen's permission, and one of

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Speaker 2: his people, one of his staff, said to him, just

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Speaker 2: prepared she might say.

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Speaker 1: No because of the divorce factor.

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Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, my dad's divorce and everything that

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Speaker 2: he was allowed to marry, and they he said, that's

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Speaker 2: when they told him the story about Princess Margaret not

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Speaker 2: being allowed to marry a divorce And I thought, come,

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Speaker 2: how did you not know that you must have known that.

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Speaker 2: But it's very jarring to be reading a book where

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Speaker 2: you know, the prince is swearing and talking about doing.

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Speaker 1: Drugs at school and all this sort of thing, and

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Speaker 1: the Todder is frostbitten Todder. That's another story. There's just

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that don't add up.

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Speaker 2: But the overall thing that I still take away from

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Speaker 2: it is if you hate the media attention so much,

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Speaker 2: and this whole thing was we're moving away to be

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Speaker 2: on her own all that, why do you keep coming

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Speaker 2: back to it?

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Speaker 1: Seeing him?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's on how many interviews has he done

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Speaker 2: since the book came out? Six hundred and seventy five?

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Speaker 2: He's doing it's on Saturday Night Live with you know?

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Speaker 2: And well, I don't think I said and alive. It

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Speaker 2: might have been Talent or Kim All or someone with

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Speaker 2: Tom Hanks, and everything is everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So you've got to make up your mind, which is it?

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Speaker 3: And how long till the next book?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it's an easy read if you want to read it,

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Speaker 2: very short, sharp sentences, but yeah, be prepared to be conflicted.

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Speaker 3: All right, there you go. Let's Lisa's take on spare