1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Joining me on the line right now is the Federal 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: member for Solomon, Luke Gosling. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Luke. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 3: Good a Katie in Town's great out there. 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Mate, this is the place to be. Where are you 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: going to be enjoying Melbourne Cup today. 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: I've had Elbow as you know, and Richard Miles in town, 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: so we've had a great couple of visits this morning, 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: but Elbows heading off. I'm going to take Richard Miles 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: down to the Turf Club to watch your race down 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 3: there and put a bed on. 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Oh good stuff, And I tell you what how I 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: mean obviously we're all feeling full of Victorians at this 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: point in time. 15 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: It's a tough time that they're going through. 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: But how exciting is it for us here in the 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Northern Territory that we've got things like the crocodile races, 18 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: the horse races, the frog racers, you name it. We're 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: racing it in the territory today and we're able to 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: get out and about and enjoy, you know, enjoy the 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Cup day however you choose. But it's looking as though 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: we're going to have bigger than what they are at Flemington. 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: And that's been it is fantastic, and that's why I 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 3: suppose we're taking a little break out of our program 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: to pop down there to the surf gold and say 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: good ay to people. But the Northern Territory lifted its 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: ban on people from a regional Victoria coming into the 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: Northern Territory, and five hours later Richard Marles landed in 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: d He didn't waste any time. He's come straight up 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: and it is brilliant and everyone takes it seriously, and 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: we want to maintain what we've got. So everyone's going 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: to have a great time, and good luck to everyone 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: putting a bed on. But I haven't got a tip 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: for you. But I was interested to hear Katie that 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: there was a horse in the cup with a territory connection, 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: so I'll put a bit each way on there. 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was thinking as well, Luke, and 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Maddy Hepworth had told us that I trust Maddy Hepworth. 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure got it right that there is a territory 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: connection to that horse. That's what I was thinking. 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Well, only for a Winslow come there for wins now, Luke, 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: obviously you have had your federal counterparts here over the 43 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: last couple of days and you are going to continue 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: to have them over the next couple of days. 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Mate, Tourism has been on the agenda, hasn't it. 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: Very much so? And speaking of crocs, thanks to Professor 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: Graham Webb and the fantastic team Shannon who showed us 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: around there and we had a boat tour out at 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: Crocodilis and that's a fantastic example of part of our 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: tourism offering here. And lets you just hope that more 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: and more of the word's going to get out that 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 3: the territories are the place to be even when it's 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: a bit warm. But yeah, we certainly have heard the 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: message loud and clear from the tourism sector. It's just 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: taking much too long for the federal government's investment that 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: they keep talking about for Kakadu to actually get onto 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: the ground. I mean, what are we waiting for. It's 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: a bit of a duel in the tourism top end Crown. 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, we just we'll obviously back in Camber next 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: week continue to buy some pressure to make sure that 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: that infrastructure funding that's been promised for Kakadu and for 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: roads actually happened so we can open up some of 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: some more of our amazing places to the Australian public 64 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: and in time to the world again once COVID is 65 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: under control. 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: And Luke, I understand this morning as well that you've 67 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: also been at the press conference talking about childcare. 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Codie. It's we went out to Casarina 69 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: and thanks to Alice and her team there it's Kasarina 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: family childcare. Child is massively important that it enables families 71 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: to do the work they need to support themselves whilst 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: the kids in those very important years while the brain's developing, 73 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: and it gives them all that interaction and early education 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: that they need to go on to do well at school. 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: But it's just so expensive. So what Albo did in 76 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: the Budget of a Price speech is to say that 77 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: not only for the child's benefit the families benefit, but 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: for the economic benefit, we're going to give families more 79 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: assistance with child care. So ninety seven percent of families 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: under labor will save between six hundred to three thousand 81 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: dollars no on their child care each year. No family 82 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: will be worse off. But we see it as an 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 3: economic policy as well, because too often families are working 84 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: on a Thursday and Friday ends up being just to 85 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: pay for the childcare. So we want to give families 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: a bit more assistance there. And we're out there today 87 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: at Kasarina Childcare talking to families and catching up with 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: the beautiful kids there. 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: And look, look, I think we all agree. 90 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: I know myself when I had two kids in childcare 91 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: at the same time. It's bloody expensive. You know, it's 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: almost easier to stay home in terms of the cost 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: rather than actually going back to work. 94 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: But you need it in a lot of ways for 95 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 2: your mental health and to get back into life. But mate, 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: how can we afford it? How is the country going 97 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: to be able to afford to do this? 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: Well, every report, and this is a conservative figure, every 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: report says that for every dollar you invest in kids 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: going to early childhood education, you get two dollars back 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 3: in benefit to the economy. And that's a conservative figure. 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: So it is an investment in the money that we 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: will be assisting families with by lifting the maximum childcare 104 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: subsidy rates to ninety percent, will have a benefit in 105 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: the economy, will produce more productivity by having the parents 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: working as well as the kids getting a good early 107 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: childhood education. So we think it's a great economic plan, 108 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: but it's also we're in a situation now, Cody. In 109 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: the last budget where the federal government has spent an 110 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: additional about one hundred billion, or at least they've announced it. 111 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: Part of the problem is they announced a lot, but 112 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: then there's very little delivery. We've done the sums on this. 113 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: It will bring back two dollars in an economy. For 114 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: every one dollar spend, it's going to be a six 115 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: billion dollar spend. So compare that to the one hundred 116 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: billion that was in the government's budget that's just been 117 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: brought down. We'll have a mid year economic outlook by 118 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: the end of the year and we'll see then how 119 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: the economy is rebounding. But by next year and by 120 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: the time the next federal election comes around, confident the 121 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: economy will be coming back. We've got to make sure 122 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: there's enough actual stimulatory effect in the economy, and that's 123 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: what we'll continue to keep calling on the federal government 124 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: to do so that people stay in their jobs and 125 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: we can grow the economy and rebound back as strongly 126 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: as possible. 127 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Luke, we are going to have to wrap up, but 128 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you very quickly and We 129 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: did talk to the Northern Territory Health Minister about this 130 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: earlier this morning. I know it's a bit outside of 131 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: your area, but we know the situation in Catherine at 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: the moment with the GP services is something that's really 133 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: got the residents of Catherine quite concerned. They are looking 134 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: at having an interim measure in place in the next 135 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: few weeks. There's a bit of sort of confusion about 136 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: whose responsibility this is, but it does seem to me 137 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: as though it is a situation where it is the 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: federal government's realm. 139 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: What do you think needs to be happening here? 140 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: I think exactly what Natasha Follows did last week and 141 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: we caught up with her in Canberra and she when 142 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: met with Greg Hunt, who's the federal Health Minister, and 143 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: they talked about this issue. And I know that Catherine 144 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 3: local federal member Warren Snowden has been talking to both 145 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: the federal labor side as well as the government about 146 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: about a longer term solution to this, but also an 147 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: immediate solution. So I'm not keen to bag out the 148 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: federal government too much until until they've had an opportunity 149 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: to put in a solution. But we'll be asking them 150 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: about it next week in Canberra again, and I know 151 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: that Natasha Files is continuing to work on it. I 152 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: do my brother's working down in Catherine. At the moment. 153 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: I really feel for people down there and we're doing 154 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: everything we can from the opposition's perspective to get a 155 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: solution happening with the primary health net work. But at 156 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: the end of the day, we wish, we wish people 157 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: down there well, and we'll keep pressuring the Federal Health 158 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: Minister just to keep it top of his priority list 159 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: amongst everything else that's going on, so that we get 160 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: a solution sooner rather than later. 161 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: Well, Luke Gosling, we are going to have to leave 162 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: it there. 163 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: Good to speak with you this morning, and your tip 164 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Prince of Iran, that's the one I think with the 165 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: Central Australia connection. 166 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: We'll go to the Prince put a bit each way 167 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: and everyone have a great day and out there Verry 168 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: springs as well with the Crocs you too. 169 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Mate, always good to catch up. Thanks for your time 170 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: this morning. That was Luke Gosling, their Labour's member for 171 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Solomon